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    "There are no gays in Iran"

    Ahmadinejad's gone and done it again:
    BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Iran president in NY campus row

    The relevant quote is:
    Asked about executions of homosexuals in Iran, Mr Ahmadinejad replied: "In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country."

    Reacting to laughter and jeers from the audience he added: "In Iran we don't have this phenomenon, I don't know who told you this."
    He also went on to cast doubt about whether Al-Quaeda was really responsible for the Twin Towers attacks, and of course he's on record as being a Holocaust denier and calling for Israel to be wiped off the map.

    Still, it could be worse. I mean, he could be in charge of a regional superpower, building a nuclear weapons programme.

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Ahmadinejad's gone and done it again:
    BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Iran president in NY campus row

    The relevant quote is:


    He also went on to cast doubt about whether Al-Quaeda was really responsible for the Twin Towers attacks, and of course he's on record as being a Holocaust denier and calling for Israel to be wiped off the map.

    Still, it could be worse. I mean, he could be in charge of a regional superpower, building a nuclear weapons programme.
    scary stuff. I don't think they have Aids either you know. They certainly do not have any Atheists, oh no. Everyone is a lovely happy run-o-the-mill muslim, the type the Iranian government like

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Ahmadinejad's gone and done it again:
    BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Iran president in NY campus row


    Still, it could be worse. I mean, he could be in charge of a regional superpower, building a nuclear weapons programme.

    So what do you suggest a invasion ?

    He wants nuclear power thats all not nuclear weapons

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Asked about executions of homosexuals in Iran, Mr Ahmadinejad replied: "In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country."
    That's because you're executed them all!
    Let your mind go and your body will follow. – Steve Martin, LA Story

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    So what do you suggest a invasion ?
    I suggest not invading Iraq, so ensuring there's an anti-Iranian neighbour power, combined with unstretched Western military capability to use as a stick, and some vestige of moral authority on the part of the USA.

    Ooops. Too late.

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    He wants nuclear power thats all not nuclear weapons
    No, he doesn't - he's obviously pursuing a weapons programme, the "peaceful use" mantra is simply a convenient lie aimed at "useful idiots", to use Lenin's tem.

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    the proof that there are none left , is when they ask anybody:

    "are you a homosexual? we promise to execute you humanely!"

    they always get a NO

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    No, he doesn't - he's obviously pursuing a weapons programme, the "peaceful use" mantra is simply a convenient lie aimed at "useful idiots", to use Lenin's tem.
    So you believe the USA spin ?

    whats the count re actually countries that have used nuclear weapons ?

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Ahmadinejad's gone and done it again:
    BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Iran president in NY campus row

    The relevant quote is:


    He also went on to cast doubt about whether Al-Quaeda was really responsible for the Twin Towers attacks, and of course he's on record as being a Holocaust denier and calling for Israel to be wiped off the map.

    Still, it could be worse. I mean, he could be in charge of a regional superpower, building a nuclear weapons programme.
    Looking at George Bush, perhaps it's now a requirement to have clowns in charge of superpowers...

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    No, he doesn't - he's obviously pursuing a weapons programme, the "peaceful use" mantra is simply a convenient lie aimed at "useful idiots", to use Lenin's tem.
    I think you're wrong. My view is that Iran knows it has no chance of getting anywhere with a weapons programme, but it has every chance of squeezing concessions out of the US and the UN by eventually agreeing to discontinue it's current project.

    I am also of the view that Iran does not particularly wish to have its own nuclear weapons, and that like many people you too are accepting what is said about how awful the regime is in the same way that many people accepted in UK and US the rubbish about WMD and (albeit only in the US) that Saddam Hussein was involved with Al quaeda.

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    So you believe the USA spin ?

    whats the count re actually countries that have used nuclear weapons ?
    US, France, Russia, UK, Israel, Pakistan, India, China - those have all tested to my knowledge except Israel, which may have done. There may be other countries that have an untested capability - Japan, for example?

    If you mean used in war, then of course there is only one.

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    So you believe the USA spin ?
    No, but I believe the IAEA, the ISS, and other organisations, when they say they've found - for example - both signs of highly-enriched uranium, plus documents pertaining to the manufacture of uranium spheres. Both of which are only for use in weapons programmes.

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    whats the count re actually countries that have used nuclear weapons ?
    About 8? Something like that, I think. Why?

    EDIT: Blast, barry beat me to it... Ah! And North Korea, that makes 9.

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    No, but I believe the IAEA, the ISS, and other organisations, when they say they've found - for example - both signs of highly-enriched uranium, plus documents pertaining to the manufacture of uranium spheres. Both of which are only for use in weapons programmes.


    About 8? Something like that, I think. Why?

    EDIT: Blast, barry beat me to it... Ah! And North Korea, that makes 9.
    Lets assume there a bad state and will be very naughty with a nuclear bomb

    Lets assume they don’t think the USA would invade now (given Iraq) but who knows in 10/15 years time

    Now who you going to invade North Korea (with bomb) or Iran with out ?

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by stewart38 View Post
    Now who you going to invade North Korea (with bomb) or Iran with out ?
    Absolutely - possession of A-bombs is the ultimate territorial security. So you're agreeing with me then, that they are going for nukes?

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Absolutely - possession of A-bombs is the ultimate territorial security. So you're agreeing with me then, that they are going for nukes?
    Or looking at it another way: if Iran gets nukes, the chances of them having a war with America are greatly reduced.

    Y'know, it's not that unreasonable to call that a peaceful use. It's somewhat less disingenuous than "enhanced interrogation techniques", for example.

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Absolutely - possession of A-bombs is the ultimate territorial security. So you're agreeing with me then, that they are going for nukes?
    Bugger agreeing with DJ, this looks like check mate

    Tries a last gasp attempt move bishop to C4 with

    "Do you know ANY gay Iranians"

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by David Franklin View Post
    Or looking at it another way: if Iran gets nukes, the chances of them having a war with America are greatly reduced.
    The ultimate deterrent. USA and USSR over the Cuban missile crisis.

    We could put this theory to the test by allowing all countries to have nuclear weapons.

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    Asked about executions of homosexuals in Iran, Mr Ahmadinejad replied: "In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country."
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    That's because you're executed them all!
    Quite rightly so!!

    Stands back, waiting for the flack,

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    Re: "There are no gays in Iran"

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Doolan View Post
    Quite rightly so!!

    Stands back, waiting for the flack,
    hjhhhhhhhhhhhh

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