Moved from the "Madeleine" thread - DavidJames
Case in point went to Maldives recently 10.5 hr flight a couple took there 7 month baby with them, it cried most of the way. Im not saying they were bad parents just bloody irresponsible
Its down to the need need must have
No one suggest you can keep a eye on a child 24/7 but hell this was different
Last edited by David Bailey; 10th-September-2007 at 03:40 PM.
Baking Powder?
Irresponsible for taking their child on holiday? Get over yourself.
I took my kids on planes when they were babies. My daughter once cried non-stop on a 5 hour plane journey. The bloke behind me was doing his nut...saying pretty much what you said "shouldn't be allowed, blah, blah, blah".
What a load of old pony.
I'd actually agree with Stewart here, taking a child under a year on any long haul flight is pretty ...ok not irresponsible as such, but certainly very selfish. Course, every situation is different and you've got to allow for the fact that the parents have a good reason Case in point: My sister is coming over from Canada with her 9 month old to visit family - doesnt have a lot of choice in ther matter - cant expect every family member to fly over there. Mind you, thats me being selfish too
Lets assume they dont have to take a 7 month old to the Maldives for medical reasons or see a dying relative etc
Its a 21hr round trip plus a sea plane or boat ride. so about 23/24hrs + traveling to airport /waiting etc etc so about 30hrs
Its bloody irresponsible and selfish, they could wait 4/5 yrs. selfish for the child, forget anyone else
The child doesnt know about ear pressure etc
I think a 2hr trip to Europe would be very different
Now i dont think these are parents bad but just selfish and irresponsible like Madelines parents
Last edited by stewart38; 10th-September-2007 at 03:38 PM.
Okay - I tried desperately not to wade in on this but.... it's stressing me out not saying something so here goes................. rant mode on
I have a 5 year old and a two year old. My husband is Australian and I am Scottish, we live in Scotland. How the blinking bleeping heck are my husbands elderly grandparents going to see his children if we don't travel to Australia?
Let me tell you something - it ain't no picnic for parents to travel that distance with small children - I did it about 1 1/2 years ago with a very small baby..... it was MURDER! And there are always horrible sanctimonious nosey parkers who feel like it's their business to tell you that your child is screaming - take it from me I KNEW THAT!!!!!
It doesn't make me a BAD PARENT that I travelled with my children - they had great time with Nanna and Pop and Grandad and Granny in Australia and they had a great experience.
rant mode off
normal service will now resume.... thank you.
Taking babies on long haul flights to see family members is one thing. Taking them on a sun holiday is different, many parents might decide to change their holiday plans for a year or two to fit in with their child's needs, not their own.
Last edited by Lynn; 10th-September-2007 at 04:00 PM.
Neither... however there were many things he saw which interested him and to be honest... he was easier to deal with than his big sister who fidgeted heaps and wanted to run around - he's a wee boy who likes to sleep my youngest. It was a good experience for them though... particularly my eldest who still talks about seeing koalas, kangaroos etc. She loved the big water parks in the Sunshine and it was really good for them to have time with their Nanna and Pop.
And anyway, you can't take one without the other! That's how fights start!
ps - he had his first tantrum yesterday - I was so proud (and HORRIFIED)
Firstly lets get it clear I don’t care if a crying baby causes grief for 334 other paying passengers , their our future etc Not the point (give them whiskey)
I think also that obviously there will be reasons as above and that’s fine
I’m taking the view that to take a 7 month old baby on a unnecessary stressful 30hr journey to a hot tropical climate is selfish if its just for a holiday
If she doesn’t get sun stroke or mosquito bites it would be a blessing but whats the benefit for the baby ?
I kinda agree that if you're just going 'cos mum and dad want to go to the Maldives.... that's not the same thing..... this year on holiday we went to France with our two... 45 min flight to london...1 hour to france... all cool -kids loved it and it was long enough for a non-essential trip. Travelling with small kids is really really hard work and I only do it if I HAVE to! i.e. final capitulation following months of badgering by in-laws!
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