Have to say that I do agree with you about the welfare state Barry, even if it annoys me!
(what you say, not agreeing with you annoying me)
However, wasn't it lack of decent contraception that meant that people had larger families in the past? I heard somewhere (probably the radio) that the fastest way to reduce population size is to educate a society's women, and make contraception available.
I'd still like to know though, why so many? If they like children fair enough, but why quite so many? Did it become a habit?
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