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    Seemed to have developed bit of an injury.

    Alittle while ago I woke up after a day of practising moves hardly able to move with a bad back. Pain was going down my left leg.

    I found it got better the more i moved and was fine by the time I was out dancing that night. no pain whatsoever durin the class. Afterwards though when I got out the car at home, it hurt again, though not as bad.

    Over the course of a week or two, I found it only hurt if I stayed in one position i.e. sitting for awhile. It compleatly went last week.

    however woke up on sunday with bad back agin but this time pain down my right leg. Maibly the pain is in the back of my knee and is causing light twiches in my thigh and calf. It's def my back as restrictive when I get up. also find again it goes once moving.

    I will get a chiropractors appointment asap.

    Has anyone else have this? I feel it may be a trapped nerve?

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    Re: Bad Backs

    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    Seemed to have developed bit of an injury.

    Alittle while ago I woke up after a day of practising moves hardly able to move with a bad back. Pain was going down my left leg.

    I found it got better the more i moved and was fine by the time I was out dancing that night. no pain whatsoever durin the class. Afterwards though when I got out the car at home, it hurt again, though not as bad.

    Over the course of a week or two, I found it only hurt if I stayed in one position i.e. sitting for awhile. It compleatly went last week.

    however woke up on sunday with bad back agin but this time pain down my right leg. Maibly the pain is in the back of my knee and is causing light twiches in my thigh and calf. It's def my back as restrictive when I get up. also find again it goes once moving.

    I will get a chiropractors appointment asap.

    Has anyone else have this? I feel it may be a trapped nerve?
    Stop dancing, you obviously need to take up another sport.... Stop doing lifts and take bed rest for 6 months.

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    Re: Bad Backs

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    Stop dancing, you obviously need to take up another sport.... Stop doing lifts and take bed rest for 6 months.
    anyone got any usefull advice?

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    Re: Bad Backs

    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    anyone got any usefull advice?
    sorry your having back ache hunny.

    I have suffered from my back before about 2 years ago, i trapped a nerve and experienced the pain down the right leg, infact it was tingles too.

    I had to take anti inflammatory tablets and have it massaged back out again. Which, FYI is agony.

    Most important thing is dont ignore it, if u do, it will re-occur the rest of your adult life. Make sure you get it looked at and sooner rather than later .xxxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    anyone got any usefull advice?

    I use an osteo, chiro and osteo, sort of a cross over, but anyone dealing with the skeliton good... Having said that , there are good and bad, you need to find one that suits you...

    A good one I find deals with it first appointment...

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    Re: Bad Backs

    Virtually everyone will have their own take on this, so I imagine you're going to be bombarded with advice here, much good, some conflicting....

    So to help get the ball rolling,
    And speaking as someone who has far more experience with back pain that I'd like,

    1) Chiropractics. Find a good one. Get personal recommendations, as many as possible. Good chiros are amazing. Bad ones... can cause you a lot of extra distress - take it from one who's been through it.
    2) Prevention is better than cure.
    3) I've had exactly what you describe, sounds like there is pressure on a nerve (sciatica, maybe?) - trapped nerve I think is unlikely (it would be a lot worse)
    4) Prevention is better than cure.
    5) Prevention is better than cure. Seriously. If your back's starting to go out on a regular basis - and it sounds like it is, it's absolutely time to look at prevention, particularly building up flexibility and core strength, which is about the best way of avoiding back problems that I know. Two things come to mind - Pilates, which I do, and which has had wonderful effects for my back (taking up Pilates could well be the smartest thing I've ever done), and Yoga, which I've not tried, but many friends swear by. There are many many possibilities here, try some, find something that suits you. Partner-dancing is generally not good therapy for your back. That's no reason not to dance (never stops me), but it's something to bear in mind.

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    Hope u get fixed quick babe... maybe u should ring jim.. cos he can fix it... .. is he still alive? sorry that was really corny

    the world of ceroc wouldn't be the same without u and the lovely Blueyes too

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    Re: Bad Backs

    Yes I have had this and yes a good chiro or osteo can sort in one day

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    It doesn't restrict my dancing. norm I would join in beginners class and be fine by the end of that.

    The first bout I had was just before southport. I was hardly able to move when I got out of bed, but by the afternoon I was fine. Even able to sumersalt DTS.

    Have been thinking I should go to the gym. Think that part of the problem stems back to the fact I used to do loads of martial arts a few years back and used to be very supple. Apparently it makes your muscles weak if you stop doing it and you need to build them back up.

    Wondering if I have weak back muscles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    1) Chiropractics. Find a good one. Get personal recommendations, as many as possible. Good chiros are amazing. Bad ones... can cause you a lot of extra distress - take it from one who's been through it.
    Or you could consider this article and assess the risks.

    "If any drug were linked to such rates of harm, I somehow doubt that it would be on the market. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    Or you could consider this article and assess the risks.

    "If any drug were linked to such rates of harm, I somehow doubt that it would be on the market. "
    Quite possibly. However - if I compare the treatment and help I've had from traditional medical methods - where every doctor I've seen, including a back specialist, has displayed an astounding ignorance of back pain and how to treat it - and the alternative field (one bad chiro who should be shot, two passable, two astoundingly good), the alternative side is winning out.

    My own recommendation if seeing a chiro would be to find a Mctimoney-Corley practitioner. It is an extremely gentle, non-traumatic technique, which yields superb results.

    Your best bet for long-term benefits is definitely self-help though. The gym would be a good bet if you pick the right set of exercises & do them religiously and properly, but I still go with Pilates as your current best option.

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    Pilates conjures up an image of women in tracksuit bottoms sitting cross legged on a matt. A bit like Yoga.

    Ofcourse not doubt im wrong. I also thought only Gay men danced before I started dancing.

    So what happens at pilates?

    I think it's Neurophen that do back pain tablets. My mum swears by them. Anyone else tried them? think i will try to find some this eve.

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    I always used to go to Carlos Constantinou, but he has disapeared.

    I googled him and manged to get a name of the last clinic he worked at in London. The woman on the phone said loads of people had rung, you could tell she was fed up with it. - said they had their own cranial oestopath there if I wanted to book.

    I declined as the thing about Carlos is he combined what he knew with Reiki.

    I first saw Carlos in 1992. I haven't seen him for 4 years. I probably saw him once a year for a check up.

    He is so good, I dare not go to someone else in case they screw up my back.

    If anyone knows where he is, please let me know.

    He's in his late 40's and he used to go to Holland Park School when it was a hotbed of radicalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    Pilates conjures up an image of women in tracksuit bottoms sitting cross legged on a matt. A bit like Yoga.
    Is this a problem for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    So what happens at pilates?
    You do a load of gentle-seeming low-impact exercises which look easy... until you try them. Have an informative link

    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    I think it's Neurophen that do back pain tablets. My mum swears by them. Anyone else tried them? think i will try to find some this eve.
    Neurofen are a great anti-inflammatory, thus wonderful for some forms of back pain. You just need to bear in mind that they treat symptoms, but they won't fix the problem - so if pain relief is your only concern, yeah - they're great - but do bear in mind the usual caveats concerning painkillers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    My own recommendation if seeing a chiro would be to find a Mctimoney-Corley practitioner. It is an extremely gentle, non-traumatic technique, which yields superb results.
    Wow - that's a blast from the past. Mr Corley treated my mother for back problems in about 1980. I had some treatment too (he tried to help my hayfever, but I didn't really keep up with the exercises he gave me to do). I can remember him coming to the house the first couple of times as my mum was immobile, but then when he'd got her on her feet, we used to go to his cottage which was down this very long, very straight but very narrow country lane somewhere over near Oxford.

    I still remember him telling me that most people are left or right-footed, and lead with that foot when they step off pavements and down stairs (and stairs are often odd numbered) so that leg is often shorter than the other one, which can throw your pelvis out, and hence everything above it. He straightened my legs out and made them the same length. I actually trained myself to alternate which foot I stepped off with, and did it so well I did it unconciously. No idea what I do now though, have probably reverted to my right foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    I think it's Neurophen that do back pain tablets. My mum swears by them. Anyone else tried them? think i will try to find some this eve.
    Nurofen = Ibuprofen - generic meds are always cheaper

    and crazily my boyfriend seems to think (and I have to agree from experience) taking one 400mg tablet is better then taking 2 x 200mg ones (you can only buy 400mg tablets over the counter)

    You can take paracetamol and ibuprofen together (different modes of action) but check the back of the packet as some "extra strength" painkillers use this principle and you could end up taking more than you should. BUT, I personally tend to avoid the use of painkillers to numb pain as it's often then you cause more damage

    I used to get something similar - basically referred pain in my hips/legs from lower back problems - sorted out by a chiropractor but still need fixing from time to time. As other people have suggested, strengthening core muscles is key

    And finally, make sure you go and seek professional advice, my dad was off work for 3 years because of a bad back and trust me, it wasn't a fun time for anybody

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    Be very careful with Chiropractors!!

    I had a really bad injury last Sept and hurt my neck. I couldnt turn my head at all. The following day I went to the local Chiroprator - he snapped my neck leaving my head lolling over the one side. By the end of the night I was in so much pain. Landed up in A & E who took an xray and gave me some anti inflammatory. The injury is still with me today and I am often experiencing tingling down my right side. Next week 12th July I am having an MRI to find out what is wrong. The hospital reckoned the chiropractor did more damage and I paid £45 for that too.

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    Re: Bad Backs

    Most 'bad' backs (and I think I replied to you on this before when you had a back complaint) are psychological.

    Your first port of call should be someone who can show you EFT (Emotional Freedom Therapy).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiveLad View Post
    Most 'bad' backs (and I think I replied to you on this before when you had a back complaint) are psychological.

    Your first port of call should be someone who can show you EFT (Emotional Freedom Therapy).
    In other words, you must be nuts if you think you have a bad back?

    Seriously - I am a believer in the idea that you make your own reality, and that your state of mind has a direct effect upon your health, to quite an extraordinary degree. I don't believe, however, that this is the best way to approach things (example: if a fit of depression causes someone to neglect their affairs, and get into serious financial difficulties, yes they should be getting treatment for the depression, but the financial difficulties are still going to be there, and must be dealt with in more 'real-world' ways.

    My own back problems are caused partially by small deformities in my lumber vertebrae, and I was born with these, so it's hard to argue the psychological angle on them.

    My main point, I suppose, is that regardless of whether EFT or similar therapies will bring results, there is a physical side to the problem, and it must be dealt with for the problem to be helped.

    On which point...

    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    Have been thinking I should go to the gym. Think that part of the problem stems back to the fact I used to do loads of martial arts a few years back and used to be very supple. Apparently it makes your muscles weak if you stop doing it and you need to build them back up.
    Forgot to mention. If you're going the gym route, I probably don't need to tell you to be careful (always good advice in gyms, far more so when back problems are involved) - another thing that I would recommend is the gymnastic ball. They're great for core strength exercises, and they're wonderful for doing sets with weights without putting a strain on your back. I've even found that working with one for a good session can sort my spine out when it's slipped slightly out.

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