Oh no it....
Ahem.
I think you'll find it isn't. Actually, you won't find that because it's hard to enviasge him doing anything of the kind - but in general, if a respected figure started coming out with that kind of rubbish on such a regular basis, I think you'd be stunned at how fast people lost respect for them. People's respect is very hard to earn, and very easy to lose.
Give me one example of one of these posts.
WAKE UP WF, that's exactly what this is about... But since you don't get it, I'll type it all clear for you: you won't find any idiotic post from Amir!
Now if you want to see a post full of wit, childish humour(TM) and knowledge, I suggest to look at ANY of his posts!!!
Sorry to get in on your very meaningful conversation, WoodFace, StrayCat and Caro, but as a newer member, I really would like to see some dance-related post exchanges on the forum dedicated to ... erm... dance?... Would you mind taking your remarks out of this thread, and maybe outside?...
To prove the point, I can think of one fairly obvious forumite (not Amir!) who (in the real world) is a well respected teacher and has won competitions, but whose posts here have caused responses along the lines of "Does Mike Ellard know what you're posting? Because you're an embarrassment to Ceroc." (not an exact quote).
Both.
To relate it back to the start of the thread: if two people are debating a point coherently, with neither giving ground, then you should probably listen to the person with greater experience.
But if one person's posts are nonsensical, abusive or causing trouble for the sake of it, they don't get a pass on that behaviour because of their real-world experience.
Ooooh. Careful. It all starts like this - with a sensible question that's a veering maybe a tiny bit off-topic, and then suddenly.... you're in the middle of a front-line skirmish in Forum War XXIXV, wondering how on earth you got there, and trying to prise a winning retort out of the cold dead fingers of a fallen comrade-in-arms...
ahem.
Back vaguely on topic. With a completely reliable, barely-remembered story I heard from someone-or-other.**
At one of the big swing-dance camps, a few years back, they got in an superb (and award-winning) performance team to demonstrate & teach - only to find that while their performance skills were top-notch, as teachers they were pretty dire. Cue quite a few complaints.
Several years on, I know of one member of said group who is now a superb teacher. Just goes to show what others have been saying on the thread - teaching is a very distinct skill, and doesn't automatically come with dance ability.
**Actually, I think it might have been Nina.
If I was to give the following advice on Aerials -
1) ensure you are warmed up
2) Remember your back is very easy to damage
3) Ensure saftey at all times
4) do not push past what feels comfortable
5) only do them with a dance partner you have practised them with.
Would you or do you think, any aerial expert would disagree with this advice.
Do you think it would be invalid advice because it has come from me?
I was about to say that I would ignore the source**, and treat the advice on its own merits, but that's not entirely true.
To be completely honest, turning this around, if someone I considered to be a god-like aerial expert gave me this advice, I'd lose a lot of respect for them.
With a less experienced person giving the advice, I'd take that into account and cut them some slack.
**I mean, of course, ignore who the source is***
***unless the source was ignoring me
I thought we were talking about giving advice? As a trainer myself (nothing to do with dance, I am afraid, I am too impatient, probably, to ever be a dance teacher!!!), I know it's a hell of a lot of difference to go and do it, and to stand in front of the group for x amount of time and try to explain what you are doing. But ... and I think it's a big but... say, I am in the training done by somebody else - and I am not an expert, by any means, but do know something - or other, about the subject. And I see that somebody is struggling with a concept, or whatever. Should I be ignored if I offer advice on how to do it because I AM NOT A TEACHER? Maybe. Or maybe I can see it from another point of view - not from the lofty heights of esteemed tutor, who's done it the same way for donkey's years.Several years on, I know of one member of said group who is now a superb teacher. Just goes to show what others have been saying on the thread - teaching is a very distinct skill, and doesn't automatically come with dance ability.
**Actually, I think it might have been Nina.
When advice is offered, it is up to recepient to decide whether to take it up or not. And I wouldn't come to the same person and say - don't listen to his advice, as he's rubbish, listen to mine, as I am better/more experienced/teacher, etc, etc, etc... Would you?
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