I think it'd depend what workshop I was looking at, and wether I wanted to lead or follow (and what time in the morning it was and how hungover I was). Some stuff from all of the first four levels applies, so I'd probably work to the lowest common denominator.
Do you think that organisers would run an "advanced" (according to your description) workshop at a weekender?
It certainly seems unlikely at the likes of Southport/ Ceroc Escape weekends - although I don't have knowledge of other weekends in other dance styles where maybe it's appropriate?
It feels to me that there'd be very few people at that level and they'd be (as it says in the description) looking for private lessons.
So while it's certainly a way to categorise dancers, I wonder if that is a realistic categorisation of a top level weekender workshop?
Love dance, will travel
I'm a beginner, I can't 'lead' anything
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I think this question is indicative of Martin Harper's view of the world. Wheat vs Chaff. In this comparison it's all about good and bad, maybe even useless waste products
Dancers are neither good or bad. IMHO they are more or less experienced, skilled, etc. We are all on a journey. Some people have progressed further than others on that journey. And some people have a different destination.
Maybe the derogatory comment is the reason that nobody has voted. Nobody wants to place themselves in the "chaff" category - I'm not even sure I want to be "wheat".
Come on Mr Harper, your posts are usually better worded. They are usually wrong in their premise, but this isn't due to lack of intelligence, it's usually due to warped thinking and too often relating MJ to Lindy Hop
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My apologies. In my defence, it's 7am here, and I've not gone to bed yet.
Also, sorry for the occasional lead-centric description. Follows please feel free to "translate".
I'm thinking that there are probably around 50 people at JiveAddiction's Southport who could reasonably place themselves in the "advanced" section (please don't ask me to name them). To my mind that's enough to justify a few classes for those people, assuming that they'd find some value in spending time dancing in a study setting with the best partners in the game. A few might need to be gently pushed in the right direction, I guess. And sure, the description is gratuitously intimidating.Originally Posted by DavidY
I have chosen the post-intermediate category, but as has been said before, it would depend on the workshop content - although most of the workshops that I would want to attend would probably be aimed at dancers of that sort of level anyway eg aerials, drops etc.
I picked Intermediate II, but I might try out Post-Intermediate if I felt I could handle it. I also might try an Intermediate I class if I found the subject matter interesting.
Somewhere in between Intermediate 1 and 2 - I think....but I can't lead so maybe not?
I'm sort-of the reverse – based on the description of the dancer, I'd call myself "post intermediate" (though if there was a category between Intermediate 2 and it, I'd probably put myself there), but I might still choose to go to a "intermediate 2" class, depending on the content and teacher.
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Sorry, Mezzosoprano, I just realised I've been unclear in my description.
This meant that you can either lead with both hands (if you're a leader) or follow with both hands (if you're a follower), not that you can do both! I guess this could have been worded better.Originally Posted by Me
Ok I selected "beginner"
I wouldn't say I can spin well (I don't spin when leading, though that is from choice) and I haven't been to any weekenders
it depends on many things as to what level i am.....
1. Time of the month
2. Men around me
3. Teacher
4. Atmosphere
5. If im feeling sexy or not
6. The man im dancing with is attractive or Andy Mcgregor
7. Ive had a drink or two
8. My week has been a good one.
These all effect, quite drastically, the level at which i dance.
There seems to be a huge gap between intermediate II and post intermediate - maybe it's intentional. Although I'm not sure that my dancing is in the post intermediate category, that is probably the type of class (in MJ) where I'd want to be learning things. I wouldn't necessarily expect the level of the class to be difficult but I would expect to learn and practice concepts that would improve my dancing. That being said, if there was a beginners class by a teacher I respect, I'd be likely to chose that instead.
I don't believe that aerials and drops fit into this grading scheme at all. It's not necessary to be able to dance to do a lift or a drop. I've seen acrobatics taught successfully to complete beginners.
I wouldn't expect classes at these levels on a MJ weekender (although Southport certainly has enough people in the advanced group - but they seem to have an informal semi-class in the blues room to trade ideas) - certainly other styles would use them, but there there is more need for the intermediates to have a chance to focus on moves at about the equivalent of 'jango fundamentals' level (anyone can do them in a class, not so easy to lead with a beginner).
Sean
Sean
It would depend on the workshop. Move-based ones, put me into Inter II. In entirely connection-based or musicality-based workshops I'd put myself into advanced (who - me? Modest?). I'd happily do an Inter I or even beginners' spinning workshop. In the unlikely event of me trying an aerials workshop, I'd seek out the remedial category
It's true that I don't really have a repertoire of moves, but 'just dance' - but then... I never had much of a repertoire of moves, and anyway - I'm a long way from having followed the progression described here.
Anyway - to summarise, if I could, I'd check all the categories. I love to be difficult.
I would check all the catagories too, depends on a lot of things, style and teacher being the main ones. Also, previous experience with "advanced" classes tell me they're not all that advanced in the MJ world at least
I would say am somewhere between R in BeginneR and one of the vowels in intermediate 1
Quite content with learning new gorram shiny stuff
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