I'm guessing the overreaction is because a moderator was actively involved in the fracas (and because people kept quoting what he'd posted faster than the moderators could keep up with. Possibly because many agreed with him).
However, I'm strongly of the opinion that a forum can't work if people keep picking at the moderators' decisions, so I'll shut up now...
(Although how come I didn't get a message about my post that got deleted in the crossfire? Sulk!)
Everyone has had that thought in the back of their head at one point or another. Everyone has danced with a beginner and thought "they will never get it". Even you Trampy. All I asked was A) should they be told (IMHO no I dont think they should) and B) should Taxis say when A beginner should up classes.
Def of Trolling - For example, a neo-Nazi approaching a Jewish forum with the intention of attacking the members, purely because the neo-Nazi knows the forum to contain Jewish members, will be considered a troll.
The general element, that determines whether a malicious user is a troll or not, is the level of indignant emotions present in the person, coupled with the person's history with the forum or group. An indignant user who has had a previous normal relationship with the group is not a troll, even if the user uses methods of attack that are characteristic of a troll attack.
The term Troll is often used as an insult in online communications, resulting in it being largely misapplied.
Have to say personally I'm fed up with the 'wind up/stirring' threads on dance related topics. Fine - mess about as much as you want with chit chat, but don't try to put newbies off by having dance threads where they are not sure if their posts will be taken seriously or mocked. I know they're 'stirring' threads/posts but new members won't.
And posting to stir things up then sit back and laugh at those who try to join in with a considered comment is not the same as raising debate and discussion.
Sorry Woodface - I know you're not the only person who does this, but I think you may have done the 'wind up' thing a few too many times and its knocked your credibility in starting/engaging in serious dance discussions.
Last edited by Lynn; 17th-May-2007 at 01:34 PM.
Basically I started a thread saying something like the following" -
We have all danced with people who have been dancing a few weeks / months and thought they should give up and take up darts/snooker/ cards instead. Should they be told this and also should Taxi dancers be responsible for putting people in to the intermediate classes?
All went blah blah blah. Hate woodface. Woodface is trolling blah blah blah. No one answered question properly. Posts got deleted, then thread got removed. I got done for Trolling
BASICALLY A QUESTION WAS ASKED BY WOODFACE ALONG THE LINES OF,
SHOULD A BAD DANCER BE TOLD THAT THEY ARE BAD AND A SUGGESTION MADE TO THEM TO TAKE UP DARTS ETC.
We was all having a slightly heated debate about this when one of the moderators said something silly and backed himself into a corner, on a motorbike.
Things were said and egos bruised and then posts were deleted with no good explanation, AND THEN THE WHOLE THREAD WAS DELETED AND NO REASON GIVEN TO THE POSTIES.
I for one am still waiting for the reasons for the thread deletion, if i did something wrong i want to know about it so i can avoid the same mistake in the future.
I mean can we or can we not disagree with moderators?
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Ps if this is not a good enough explanation i will endeavor to explain better at SP.
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You are wrong about why the thread was deleted. Several posts were reported on the thread, and after considering what to do, the 'offensive' posts were deleted. This left the thread in a confusing mess and made no sense.
Moreover, Woodface himself stated that he started threads with views he doesn't share in order to bait a reaction on the Forum. This is a definition of trolling, so rather than spend the afternoon trying to extract sense out of all the postings, I deleted the thread.
If there is a valid discussion to be had on whether Beginners should be told that they are awful and encouraged to take up another hobby, I'd gladly have it, but not in the way Woodface originally launched it.
Dave, you seem to have strong views on moderation, and like to SHOUT a lot, this does not make you right, and most of the time you are not aware of the other reports on any topic. Constantly whining or having a go at moderators does you (and the forum) no good whatsoever.
Franck.
There's an A.P.P. for that!
For what it's worth, I don't think woodface was trolling at all. I think he posted his actual view in a provocative way. It was deliberately provocative but I don't think that he actually held the opposite view in that particular case. I believe that he claimed that he was posting the opposite of his view because it became obvious that everybody disagreed with him.
I see this as a sign that woodface is growing up. Three months ago he wouldn't have detected that everyone was disagreeing with him. Well done woodface: you've just emerged from the swamp but will still need to return to the water to breed
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