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    National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    Music wise, I personally didn't think the music was loud enough! I also love to feel the Bass reveberate through me and actually in Chill out this is a useful reference, as the Bass line can help you to find an alternative way of interpreting the music, which can then be used in addition to the top beat.
    From the point of view of your hearing, the music at MJ venues is almost always "loud enough" (and usually too loud).

    Some of us spend a lot of time in an environment of loud amplified music and I'm pretty sure the overall results on our hearing are not good. So since it's National Deaf Awareness week, I thought I'd encourage everyone to try the RNID's hearing test phone line - phone 0845 600 5555 and spend a few minutes taking the hearing test. (More info here).

    There's also a useful thread on the Aussie Forum on this with some more useful links, including this (unscientific) page to test your hearing at various frequencies.
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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Hello hello i rang the number, couldnt hear a thing.

    Hello hello is this thing on.

    Bollox.

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    From the point of view of your hearing, the music at MJ venues is almost always "loud enough" (and usually too loud).

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    There is usually events around the country which provides information about deaf awareness.
    I do know dundee will have one i think on friday at Wellgate Library but i am not sure about which day but it is definately at Wellgate Library. So if you feel you want know more etc, just find out about an event in your area and go to one.

    Shonax

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    From the point of view of your hearing, the music at MJ venues is almost always "loud enough" (and usually too loud).

    Some of us spend a lot of time in an environment of loud amplified music and I'm pretty sure the overall results on our hearing are not good. #
    Good thread DavidY Music and the volume that it is played at affects the enjoyment of every dancer.

    Although the volume of the music at MJ Venues is fairly loud, it is nowhere near as loud as in the Salsa Venues and other Clubs.

    I always find that the I can find a spot in a MJ venue where the level of the music is comfortable to me. To each their own, some people move nearer to the speakers, others nearer to the fans (to cool down) which can drown the music too. I sometimes go outside the room when a $hit track come on.

    At least we have some choice rather than MINDNUMBING LOUD noise that can cause structural subsidence within 3 blocks let alone permanent deafness.

    The DJs at the MJ venues i frequent check the volume of the music before the start of the class, but rarely do so afterwards.

    I wonder whether the sound quality changes with the change in temperature and density of the room (and the dancers!). Also, some tracks can be louder than others - i suppose this is down to the original music and the skill of the particular DJ.

    Your post is valuable to those who are interested.

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by Raul View Post
    Although the volume of the music at MJ Venues is fairly loud, it is nowhere near as loud as in the Salsa Venues and other Clubs.
    More than once I've got dressed up, driven to a salsa venue, parked and got as far as the door, only to decide not to go in based on the music volume. I don't bother going anymore. I found live bands at salsa were worse than DJs.

    (There is a shop in a local shopping centre that has the same effect on me, I don't usually stay in there too long and never go in if I'm with someone as you can't have a conversation. To be evil, if buying something I talk to the shop assistants in a normal speaking voice, which of course they can't hear.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Raul View Post
    The DJs at the MJ venues i frequent check the volume of the music before the start of the class, but rarely do so afterwards.

    I wonder whether the sound quality changes with the change in temperature and density of the room (and the dancers!). Also, some tracks can be louder than others - i suppose this is down to the original music and the skill of the particular DJ.
    Which is why DJs need to keep an eye on the volume. Drathzel usually notices when this happens and adjusts the volume, but if she doesn't notice I sometimes point it out, or if that isn't practical, I leave the room til the next track comes on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raul View Post
    Your post is valuable to those who are interested.
    Valuable to everyone. Those who aren't interested are more than likely going to suffer from long term hearing damage.

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn View Post
    (There is a shop in a local shopping centre that has the same effect on me, I don't usually stay in there too long and never go in if I'm with someone as you can't have a conversation. To be evil, if buying something I talk to the shop assistants in a normal speaking voice, which of course they can't hear.)
    I feel a bit sorry for some of the staff in these sort of situations. Especially for bar staff who have to put up with 'Sack the DJ'.

    We can at least leave the shop / venue if it is too loud.

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by frodo View Post
    I feel a bit sorry for some of the staff in these sort of situations. Especially for bar staff who have to put up with 'Sack the DJ'.

    We can at least leave the shop / venue if it is too loud.
    In many situations - shops, restaurants etc, the staff are the ones who set the volume levels. In the past, when dining out with someone with a hearing problem, I've asked staff to turn the volume level down a little, which they can do with no problem. Whether music is 'background' or 'conversation disturbing' level makes a big difference in my choice of restaurants.

    I can foresee a point in the future when similiar issues regarding employees health as have been raised re smoking, apply to volume levels. About the time when club staff start suing their employers for hearing damage.

    I know I go on about this issue, but for good reason. I know people who suffer from tinnitus, hyperacusis and hearing loss and it can be extremely debilitating, lead to having to give up work, be isolated at social gatherings, unable to shop in busy city centres, and affects so many levels of day to day life. Overly loud music can cause, and certainly worsen, some of these conditions.

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn View Post
    About the time when club staff start suing their employers for hearing damage.
    ...and dancers as well. Any clause in a contract that purports to exclude a claim for negligence causing personal injury is void. Accordingly, there would in theory be nothing to stop a dancer claiming for hearing loss caused by loud music at a dance venue.

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn View Post
    I can foresee a point in the future when similiar issues regarding employees health as have been raised re smoking, apply to volume levels. About the time when club staff start suing their employers for hearing damage.
    It seems there is already EU legislation about this...
    BBC NEWS | Health | Bar staff 'should wear ear plugs'
    For some reason though, the music and entertainment industry have an exemption until next April.

    They seem to make a fuss about the practicalities of wearing earplugs, but I've not yet seen a convincing explanation of why they don't just turn down the volume.
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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    I a bit deaf and I say turn the music DOWN at dance events. Why? Cos music is always loud enough to dance too and I like to be able to hear what my friends/dance partner are saying to me. Its most embarassing having to keep saying sorry/pardon to someone.

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by Shodan View Post
    I a bit deaf and I say turn the music DOWN at dance events. Why? Cos music is always loud enough to dance too and I like to be able to hear what my friends/dance partner are saying to me. Its most embarassing having to keep saying sorry/pardon to someone.

    I have slight hearing loss in the range of human speech patterns (as Beo knows well ), and I can rarely hear anything a partner tries to say to me on the dancefloor.

    I also don't understand why bars and pubs have the music on so loud that you can't hear other people talk. After all, surely the point of going to these places is to socialise and talk to people? - though I've heard it said they do it to prevent conversation and so encourage people to drink more.

    I do sometimes wonder about the (consumer) society we live in

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by Twirly View Post
    I can rarely hear anything a partner tries to say to me on the dancefloor.
    It's a known fact that men cannot dance and talk at the same time. This could work in your favour. Tell them you cant hear them...they will stop talking...and you will get a nice dance out of them. Bonus..!

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    It's a known fact that men cannot dance and talk at the same time.
    I can.

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by Shodan View Post
    I can.
    I said men.

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    I am 100% deaf , and i do wear one hearing aid and it can be hard to pick up the beats in the music cos i have to concentrate hard to listen to it which can be hard cos i want to pay attention to my dancing.

    Also it sometimes bug me slightly when people expect me to lipread their lips and it is too dark for me to be able to read their lips , and reading lips can be so so so hard as words look similar to each other words , therefore i prefer to use paper and pen to get the full benefit of conversation if i am not dancing.

    Pubs that are loud can be an advantage cos hearing people dont like it too loud so they go away and create space for me and 20 other deaf people to sit and sign away .. (naughty yes i know)

    I think everyone have disadvantages at a dance venue ie music is too loud, it too dark, partner not being considerate, floor is bad etc.

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    Last edited by Husky_Cat; 10th-May-2007 at 02:56 PM. Reason: adding bit of info

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Quote Originally Posted by Husky_Cat View Post
    I am 100% deaf
    What an inspiration that you can nevertheless enjoy dancing.

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Oh thank you SpinDryer

    I always loved music and dancing away in my living room since i was a kid, i blame my own sister for that as her musical tastes influenced me. (my whole family is hearing, i am the odd one out )

    Shzxx

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Was wondering if you were going to post on this thread Shz as I knew you would have a valuable contribution.

    The dancer I know who has significant hearing loss also has the problems of lip reading in reduced light etc. He still wears earplugs to protect his hearing when dancing.

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    Re: National UK Deaf Awareness Week 7-13 May 2007

    Lynn, of course i would post on this heehe.

    Sign Language is handy, really... it is good if you want to ask someone something ie you are at the bar and they asking if you want ice and you dont know, you can just sign it over a room to where your friend is , and get the answer without even moving away from bar.. Fab! lol but it do involves waving your arms around to get their attention which can be pretty funny. It isnt funny when i have to wave my arms, in fact i tend to shout or snap my fingers when i am around deaf people before realising they cant hear........ ( a bad habit i picked up from growing up in a hearing family lol)

    Anyone who dj's or work in a noisy enviroment are usually recommended to wear earplugs to protect their ears but most people ignore this and complain about tinnitus or ear problems later on, a Shame really.

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