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    Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Inspired by the recent 'aerials banned' thread where it was politely pointed out that maybe the banning of aerials was because Ceroc was run by a lot of old fuddyduddys who don't know what the younger set want.

    I'd also point out that the general standard of fast dancing, I.E. Dancing which takes energy and life, has declined a lot in the last ten years or so. That has, of course, been matched by a rise in the popularity of slow dancing. To the point where Ceroc have opened there own old peoples home called 'Utopia' (sorry, couldn't resist that, only a joke!).

    Personally, whenever I've walked into a freestyle, and I've felt amongst one of the youngest there (I'm in my forties, and it does happen), the freestyle has always been pretty uninspiring. I think you need the energy and enthusiasm of youth.

    Is Ceroc becoming old ?

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TA Guy View Post
    Is Ceroc becoming old ?

    I think it depends where you go.

    At a weekender I have never felt too young or too old (I'm 35). Similarly, I feel that the nights out in London are quite young, but at some freestyles, Cheshunt for example, I'm usually one of the youngest there.

    I think you have to be prepared to travel, depending on your preference.

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    (I'm 35)
    Snigger!

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    At a Jango class class Amir said that if thought a move might hurt him he might go **** it and do it anyway. If it might hurt someone else he wouldn't.

    Airsteps on an empty floor. Private practice. A hall hired out where airsteppers can dance to their hearts content a la the T-Jive, Comps. Rivers, swimming pools - go for it.

    But when you start endangering the others around you it's another matter.

    Yes it's annoying when someone elbows me in the ribs or steps on my foot in heels. It's a lot more annoying to be kicked in the head!

    Maybe I'm just old.........

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    I think it depends where you go.

    At a weekender I have never felt too young or too old (I'm 35). Similarly, I feel that the nights out in London are quite young, but at some freestyles, Cheshunt for example, I'm usually one of the youngest there.

    I think you have to be prepared to travel, depending on your preference.
    (I'm 36)

    People with the attitude "Get rid of the old people" are fortunately in a tiny minority. And as they are in a minority, they can **** off, frankly.

    I think the standard of fast dancing has declined owing to an overall change in musical tastes. Chart music is generally slower than it was several years back (more R'n'B than Ibiza). Nothing to do with an ageing dance population.

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    My feels towards age are "if you can swing it, then bring it on. Age is irrelevant it's the person that's important."

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    In my day you lot of you would have been hoprse whipped.

    You bunch of whippersnapers.

    XXX XXX Wheres me zimmer and HAVE I BEEN to the loo yet.....oh bollox too late

    Nurse Nurse its all red and swollen. XXX

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    I'm an antique but I love to jive fast


    I do it well too, I think did I say that


    But you dance to the music thats on and that means you are at the mercy of the platter captain.

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TA Guy View Post
    Is Ceroc becoming old ?

    Well, if it is, suits me! I don't object to seeing young people at venues, but I wouldn't miss them if they weren't there. The under 25s make very little contribution to my dancing pleasure (although I thought the one dance I've had with young Jamie was absolutely fantastic - he looked a bit edgy though. )

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jivecat View Post
    Well, if it is, suits me! I don't object to seeing young people at venues, but I wouldn't miss them if they weren't there. The under 25s make very little contribution to my dancing pleasure (although I thought the one dance I've had with young Jamie was absolutely fantastic - he looked a bit edgy though. )
    the youngsters are ok but they do like to do things a bit frantic, like.

    All my 'wow factor' dances have been with people my age or older.

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    the youngsters are ok but they do like to do things a bit frantic, like.

    All my 'wow factor' dances have been with people my age or older.
    What constitutes a 'wow factor'?

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Quote Originally Posted by the whale View Post
    What constitutes a 'wow factor'?
    A dance with you?

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    A dance with you?
    I don't believe it, probably my first serious question on this forum...

    and you make me blush

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TA Guy View Post
    Inspired by the recent 'aerials banned' thread where it was politely pointed out that maybe the banning of aerials was because Ceroc was run by a lot of old fuddyduddys who don't know what the younger set want.
    The funny thing about this the most of the top aerials couples are actually pretty old compared to people in the other competition categories. At 37, Bryony and I are one of the younger couples in fact. And on the world stage, David and Sharon Savoy were runners up at Blackpool in 2005 when (I think) they were in their 50s.

    I'd also point out that the general standard of fast dancing, I.E. Dancing which takes energy and life, has declined a lot in the last ten years or so. That has, of course, been matched by a rise in the popularity of slow dancing.
    Too true. As exemplified by the rise of WCS. I blame the teachers. It's those old fogies lacking energy and life like Jordan and Tatianna, Parker and Jessica, Benji and Heidi just dragging the scene down.

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Quote Originally Posted by the whale View Post
    I don't believe it, probably my first serious question on this forum...

    and you make me blush
    Bless. You are so sweet.

    This has been discussed before and is off topic, but seeing as you asked.

    The wow factor, for me, would have the following.

    Great moves
    great connection
    usually, but not always, sexual chemistry
    a great track to dance to
    and that certain....I don't know what (sorry, I cant write in French)

    Basically, it all just works and feels amazing. I think I can count on one hand the wow factors I've had over the last few years.

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    Bless. You are so sweet.

    This has been discussed before and is off topic, but seeing as you asked.

    The wow factor, for me, would have the following.

    Great moves
    great connection
    usually, but not always, sexual chemistry
    a great track to dance to
    and that certain....I don't know what (sorry, I cant write in French)

    Basically, it all just works and feels amazing. I think I can count on one hand the wow factors I've had over the last few years.
    Bloody hell, & I do all that??? That's it... I'm retiring undefeated

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Define young! I'm 37 (and not ashamed to say it!) and I don't feel old! I like slow dances, I like FAST dances (bring on Candyman and New Shoes). I've danced with people older than me and people younger than me... I really feel that it's not about the number.. It's about the attitude and the willingness to try new things and to get out there and enjoy your dancing...

    And Mr Whale, Sir, I just bet you do do all those things!!

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    It does annoy me when people descriminate by age. I noticed that a few ceroc 'facebook' pages have been started but have been put off joining them by some of the comments made e.g. suggestions of 'under 30's free styles' or even 'under 25's free styles'. I think it is sad that people feel the need to encourage such segregation. One of the things that attracted me to ceroc was the way it was enclusive of all ages. Okay so some people might want to dance to faster/slower music but this doesn't necessarily correlate with age and you can't please everyone all of the time.

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    Re: Is Ceroc for old people ?

    Ceroc doesn't seem to be just for the old. It seems to be for those people with the inclination and the time.

    I get a lot of univeristy age students spending industrial years at the company that I work for and if their response is anything to go by then going dancing is seriously uncool unless a someone (usually female) you have the hots for is begging you to go to. Most of the people that are a bit older than them (approx 25-35) seem to be doing the having and bringing up children thing and that occupies most of their time.

    After that age people find themselves with more free time either due to their child rearing responsibilies decreasing or they have seperated from their partner and it is a convenient way of getting out and meeting the opposite sex without it looking too obvious.

    Yes there are young people that like to dance and not everyone that dances is primarly there to meet a special someone. If you banned peple above the age of 35 from going into ceroc venues I doubt you would have enough people to sustain all but a very few venues.

    As for the music and the dancing getting slower I think it just might be a symptom of the dancing growing up and becoming more about skill and control and less about uncontrolled wild energy. A number of the younger people I meet on the dance scene equate skill with speed. However it does seem to me that if you can't dance in time with the music, with control, precision, connection and musicality when the music is slow then there is little hope that you can do it when the music is fast. The result of trying to run before you can walk in dancing often looks like an octopus being thrown around in a tumble drier - at least to my eyes. Never the less, they are having fun as they see it.

    What I am after is a mixture in terms of the mood of the music and its tempo and I think there are many valuable things to be learnt in learning to dance slowly, most of which are useful when dancing fast.

    Fast modern pop music is great to dance to. I also like MacDonalds quarter pounders with cheese, fries and diet coke - but I wouldn't want to have it for 50 consecutive meals.

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