being an ex Welsh coal miner i am upper class.
If anyone disagrees i will send my butler around to kick the sh1t out of you.
Ps pass the jellied ells my lovely.
Class? I'll usually join the advanced or intermediate classes, depending on the event and the dance.
What - READ the thread before posting? Why would I do that?
being an ex Welsh coal miner i am upper class.
If anyone disagrees i will send my butler around to kick the sh1t out of you.
Ps pass the jellied ells my lovely.
Who gives a ***** what class people are?!?! If people are nice, well mannered, sociable, good kind people... who their parent's were and how much cash they have... doesn't matter!
I use all of the above. Although I think it's a bit (slightly) rude to just say 'what' if for instance you've not heard what someone has said to you. I'd use 'pardon', 'sorry', 'excuse me' etc....
Is it bad to say 'pardon', 'toilet' and 'pleased to meet you'??
As for what class I belong in, I'd say the Artist class. We're just different from the rest! As for my parents, one was definitely working class, and the other middle class, if you do have to put people in boxes. But I'm just me.
It certainly doesn't matter in the sense that no individual should be deemed more or less worthy because of their background.
It certainly is, however, of great significance. To give just one example, I've read in various sources that social background is a very strong indicator of the likely success of a marriage. To put it rather crudely, the research suggests that a dimwitted sloaney woman is much more likely to have a successful marriage with a bright sloaney male than would a bright non sloaney woman. I understand that social differences are a much more important factor in a relationship than, say, differences in intelligence or age. On the other hand, where both partners are from the same social background, then the closer their educational background, the greater the prospects of success for the relationship.
In one sense, you have to pity Prince William. He might have thousands of women drooling over him, but the pool of suitable women is small. The chosen woman will have to be upper class (elimates 95% of women), not a Roman Catholic (eliminates 30% (?) of women), fertile (eliminates 10%) and a virgin or close to it (eliminates 99.99% of women his age).
It never did for the upper classes - lack of money did not lower your status one bit as long as you were of the right stock, and went to Eton . For the middle classes it was money and education that was important not parentage. Working class had neither money or parents of merit Luckily , society doesn't work like that anymore.
Don't know, politeness must be something English people don't do if they don't want to sound too posh. Who can explain Daily Mail readers though By using "what one is supposed to say" you have demonstrated you are waaay too posh for the Daily Mail. You're probably an Independent reader
Proof that its an English thing - I don't know anyone that ever uses "how do you do" (if someone asked me that I'd say "how do I do what?".
And "Loo/Lavatory" ? Only if you wanted to sound like a posh person from London - which is ironic as you are using it as a non-posh suggestion
Same goes for "I beg your pardon" - must be 10x as posh as a simple "Pardon" surely ? It hardly compares to "what?"
Hmmm, Jeeves waits on Bertie night and day and won't go to bed until he's got permission. Is that a fair description of your relationship ?
This thread reminds me of years ago when a friend's mother took us to Alton Towers and bought us hot dogs - I asked the hot dog seller for a serviette and my friend's mum said I must never use that word again and what I really meant to ask for was a napkin..............crikey o'riley - I thought serviettes were the cheap paper things you get from stalls and napkins were for dinner parties. Apparently they are all napkins! She made me feel so small......even smaller than I actually am!
I'd say it's exactly the kind of thing the Daily Mail wants to print. Don't forget their readership is aspirational middle-class, i.e. obsessed with bettering themselves.
Printing stories which feed into what they think they should be like is ideal stuff for the DM readership - it'll read like an etiquette lesson for them.
No, he asked what you should say instead of the examples used to demonstrate Kate Middleton's middle class background. In other words, 'pardon', 'toilet' and 'pleased to meet you' are what the aspirational middle classes say when they think they sound posh. It's all in the book that Spin dryer quoted about - 'Watching the English' by Kate Fox.
Then again, I wouldn't expect you to understand, you're Scottish.
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