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    Dodgy petrol?

    So, what do people think? Mass hysteria? Conspiracy? ****-up? Has your car mysteriously crashed-and-burned on you?

    David "Living dangerously by driving with a full tank of Tesco's petrol" James

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Well its made it to Reuters so it must be true


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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Ahhh... it's been officially denied now.

    So it must be true.

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Well, I went to Tosco yesterday to fill up, and the pump was taking ages, so long I had to keep changing hangs, this hasn't happened before, and it clicked off only half way full, so I just paid for the £20 and mentioned it to the girl behind the counter, I was met with a blank face, i'm now wondering if i'm going to have a problem? it was not right

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    It says

    "The problem appears to be restricted to unleaded petrol


    I didn't know you could still get leaded.
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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lory View Post
    It says

    "The problem appears to be restricted to unleaded petrol


    I didn't know you could still get leaded.
    I'm assuming they mean as opposed to diesel (and probably the super-unleaded varieties as well)? And I've just bought a diesel car, yay

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Quote Originally Posted by fletch View Post
    Well, I went to Tosco yesterday to fill up, and the pump was taking ages, so long I had to keep changing hangs
    I have this picture in my head of Fletch hanging from the roof, the pump, the car door handles, whatever, in an effort to get the last drops of fuel out! And would the staff in this Tosco company call themselvers Tossers? (Sorry, can't rep you for it!)

    I hope the cars OK though, I don't think your pump problems relate to the fuel. And I presume anyone with a car that uses those ancient carburettor thingys won't have any significant problems?

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    The potential lawsuits make your head spin.

    It would seem that the petrol is making the engine burn hot (which would also coincide with the suggestion that the petrol has been contaminated with ethanol) which may cause permanent damage to the engine. For some people, with a full tank of petrol and on a long trip, that may lead to replacement of the engine. For others, replacement of spark plugs, engine sensors, oil replacement, blah blah. Plus the petrol tanks will have to be drained and the fuel lines flushed out.

    That's a lot of money for each car, and their appear to be at least dozens, possibly hundreds.

    Problem for the car owners: proving whose petrol was at fault. Was it the petrol you put in the tank yesterday, or the stuff that was in the tank and being used all last week? If you only ever get your petrol in one place, no problem, but if you've bought it about and around, it could be difficult to prove the guilty party.

    Tesco, of course, doesn't manufacture petrol nor does Morrisons. So they in turn will be looking to their supplier to reimburse them for all the damage claims they've had to pay out. If Tesco (e.g.) pays out voluntarily, then the fuel company would be able to argue that the payment wasn't as a result of its default, but as a result of Tesco's public relations policies, and so it should only be forced to reimburse where its fuel has been ajudged to have caused the engine problems.

    I am awaiting telephone calls from disgruntled car owners who want me to sue Tesco...

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Personally, I never use supermarket fuel as it tends to be only slightly better for your engine than vegetable oil. Unless it's Sainsbury's, as (at least, up here) it's provided by Shell. Who do 'good' petrol.

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboTomato View Post
    I'm assuming they mean as opposed to diesel (and probably the super-unleaded varieties as well)? And I've just bought a diesel car, yay

    yay i'm diesel so I should be ok then? I hope it was all in my head

    I'll stick the the pink stuff its cheeper and matches my 'outfits'


    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepman View Post
    I have this picture in my head of Fletch hanging from the roof, the pump, the car door handles, whatever, in an effort to get the last drops of fuel out! And would the staff in this Tosco company call themselvers Tossers? (Sorry, can't rep you for it!)



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    it was a bit early sorry

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Quote Originally Posted by andystyle View Post
    Personally, I never use supermarket fuel as it tends to be only slightly better for your engine than vegetable oil. Unless it's Sainsbury's, as (at least, up here) it's provided by Shell. Who do 'good' petrol.
    Mmm.

    And I only drink Nescafé because they use the finest arabica beans.

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    I only drink Nescafé because they use the finest arabica beans.
    Bloody funny you are.

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    Bloody funny you are.
    Well, shucks.

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    Yes! Its all true, my "daily driver" car also broke down, stopped and wouldn't work very well and its all Tescos fault. I'm going to join the bandwagon and make a complaint like everyone else and hope to get some money back.

    Its at this point I think I should stop and explain I'm joking as:
    1) My cars only ever run on Shell petrol (V-Power for the beast, normal unleaded for daily driver).
    2) The reason why my car was misbehaving was because it was in the garage having something looked at and they had been playing with the idle setting screw, but set it wrong in the end.

    The point of my post is that this is most likely mass-hysteria (spelling?). Someone hears some gossip of someone breaking down outside a petrol station, blaming Tescos. It makes it to the local radio and from there, the world!

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    It would seem that the petrol is making the engine burn hot (which would also coincide with the suggestion that the petrol has been contaminated with ethanol) which may cause permanent damage to the engine.
    Tesco 99RON Unleaded has 5% Bio-Ethanol added to it. That's what makes it 99RON as opposed to the standard 95.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gav View Post
    Tesco 99RON Unleaded has 5% Bio-Ethanol added to it. That's what makes it 99RON as opposed to the standard 95.
    Interesting. I never tried running the evil one on that, always put Shell V Power in, like Shodan. To be honest it was way fast enough already, didn't need any extra horse power!

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Higher octane doesn't mean higher specific energy content. It generally means you can run higher boost without detonation, or run leaner - so I think in general it's something which is factored in when mapping the ECU rather than an on-the-fly adjustment.

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    oooo I love it when they talk technical

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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Apparently they think it's "silicon" that's contaminated the petrol. I'd have thought it more likely was a silicone compound.
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    Re: Dodgy petrol?

    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi View Post

    Apparently they think it's "silicon" that's contaminated the petrol. I'd have thought it more likely was a silicone compound.
    Didn't they used to sell oil additives containing silicones to supposedly improve lubrication properties ?

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