Encrypting HTML – possible or not?

[Lee Bartholomew]

{snip}

It's true. Microsoft has thrown How much money at protecting Vista from being copied?

There are cracked versions of it out there already and it's not even in the shops yet!!!!!

I'll let you all know what it's like later when I throw it on a test machine

[Dreadful Scathe]

On a side-note, Web Developer's an absolute godsend of a plugin - I've been using it for a long time now, and it's only eclipsed by Firebug in its usefulness.

(Firebug rules them all, in the unlikely event you didn't know that )

agreed - use them both. Firebug beta 1 is fantastic - saves a lot of time to say the least

[Dreadful Scathe]

I'm not really a geek, I just pretend occasionally... but surely HTML has to be interpreted by the PC (ie, decrypted) to actually work? Or am I missing some cunning development?

And if the HTML is encrypted, doesn't that cause problems with search engine optimisation, as search engines like nice clean HTML?

Well done G33k Yes HTML has to be read by a browser - which means hiding it from humans makes it more complicated and slower for the browser, and as MH says - its pointless, because many programs/plugins will produce something readable for you just as the browser itself does. Also the search engines do not like code they cant read. Also, also, developers usually realise the futility of the whole thing and dont bother

Ive occasionaly come across web pages that try and disable what i can do with my own browser, but they are just annoyances - e.g. if you are in the habit of right clicking to open a link in a new tab, no right click pop-ups are extremely annoying - opera tends to ignore the affect anyway, but you still get the pop-up.

[straycat]

agreed - use them both. Firebug beta 1 is fantastic - saves a lot of time to say the least

Version 1 (full) is out now

[David Bailey]

So where's this super-encrypted page then?

I did have a look at the encrypt demo page, and even I managed to disprove a couple of point (CTRL+A to select text, for example) - so I'm not convinced it'll be that difficult to crack.

[Beowulf]

Version 1 (full) is out now

Firebug and HTML-KIT are my friends I love getting my hands "dirty" with the HTML. hate WYSIWYG editors.

[straycat]

By the way, simply viewing the source code is not the challenge here, decrypting it and using techniques and graphics within the code is the point of it.

So ... presumably, if we copy one or more pages and put it (them) live (briefly, just for you to see) as unencrypted html, with all graphics included, this would prove the point to your satisfaction?

[straycat]

This Space For Rent

How much?

[ducasi]

Yes HTML has to be read by a browser - which means hiding it from humans makes it more complicated and slower for the browser, and as MH says - its pointless,[...]

There is at least one good reason for encrypting parts of your web site – you can hide content, such as email addresses, from robots and the like...

[Beowulf]

This Space For Rent

How much?

Well, will settle for the price of a dance class every week Prime advertising real estate.. seen by Millio..erm.. Thou.. erm.. Hundr.. Lots of people everyday

[straycat]

Well, will settle for the price of a dance class every week Prime advertising real estate.. seen by Millio..erm.. Thou.. erm.. Hundr.. Lots of people everyday

How about a free weekly ticket to our Thursday night classes? Contingent on you maintaining your current posting rate, of course

[Brian Doolan]

Seriously wrong and quite dumb to suggest it

See:
Encrypt HTML Pro v2.7

OK, after downloading and trying out Firebug, I'm ready to post the link:

Anti-fraud

but first, let me humbly apologise to David James for suggesting he was a dummhead, to those who know him, he may well be a dummhead but not in this instance and I was most definitely wrong to suggest it

To Duncan, yes you were quite correct in your assertions but I don't think it is as easy as you implied, it took me at least 3 minutes to get one of the gifs from the site after viewing the source with Firebug (damn that software!) and I knew where to look.


However a challenge still remains.

See how long it takes to reply to this post inserting the gif of the UV Licence from the home page in your reply, a pint of finest ale to the first successful post (if I get to see him/her )


Anyone know where there's a bakery in Glasgow where I can buy a large humble pie? There's one in Byres Road but their pies aren't big enough

[Lee Bartholomew]

This one?

[Lee Bartholomew]

Lol. took 15 seconds.



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<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Identify fraud and
theft is increasing at an alarming rate. With fraud related costs to
UK businesses totalling billions a year, businesses need to know who
their customers are more than ever before. Add to this the regulatory
requirements for compliance with the latest anti-money laundering guidelines
and the need for identity verification becomes critical.<br>
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businesses have set in place the right measures to reduce the risk of
money laundering. This applies to both new applications and to <b>existing
customers</b> who were taken on before the Money Laundering Regulation
came into force in 1994. <br>
Legal practices are at risk of being exploited by criminals to hold
or convert the proceeds of their crimes. The consequences of being implicated
in money laundering, <b>even inadvertently</b>, can be very serious.
In addition to possible legal and regulatory sanctions, solicitors risk
severe damage to reputation if a case of money laundering leads to adverse
publicity.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">The ability to authenticate
the identity of an individual or business is crucial in today's competitive
environment, you need to be able to achieve this quickly, reliably,
consistently, and cost effectively.</font></p>
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common forms of identity verification used by fraudsters is the UK driving
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The UK photo driving licence is a simple document to reproduce on a
home PC system.</i><br>
People believe the security in the licence is the gold translucent DVLA
text that runs over the surface of the licence. Most people DO NOT know
that the main security and anti-fraud mechanism in the licence is Ultra
Violet images over the surface of the licence, which are invisible to
the naked eye but can be easily detected by holding the licence under
a black light (UV) source <b><a href="http://lcproms.co.uk/scanner.htm">costing less than
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when subjected to an Ultra Violet light source, that licence is almost
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<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Identify fraud and
theft is increasing at an alarming rate. With fraud related costs to
UK businesses totalling billions a year, businesses need to know who
their customers are more than ever before. Add to this the regulatory
requirements for compliance with the latest anti-money laundering guidelines
and the need for identity verification becomes critical.<br>
</font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><br>
<span class="style2"><br>
Establishing the legal identity of a client is essential to fraud prevention
and compliance with anti-money laundering guidelines. It is vital that
businesses have set in place the right measures to reduce the risk of
money laundering. This applies to both new applications and to <b>existing
customers</b> who were taken on before the Money Laundering Regulation
came into force in 1994. <br>
Legal practices are at risk of being exploited by criminals to hold
or convert the proceeds of their crimes. The consequences of being implicated
in money laundering, <b>even inadvertently</b>, can be very serious.
In addition to possible legal and regulatory sanctions, solicitors risk
severe damage to reputation if a case of money laundering leads to adverse
publicity.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">The ability to authenticate
the identity of an individual or business is crucial in today's competitive
environment, you need to be able to achieve this quickly, reliably,
consistently, and cost effectively.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">One of the most
common forms of identity verification used by fraudsters is the UK driving
licence which has been readilly accepted by financial institutions,
brokers and lawyers for many years. <i><br>
The UK photo driving licence is a simple document to reproduce on a
home PC system.</i><br>
People believe the security in the licence is the gold translucent DVLA
text that runs over the surface of the licence. Most people DO NOT know
that the main security and anti-fraud mechanism in the licence is Ultra
Violet images over the surface of the licence, which are invisible to
the naked eye but can be easily detected by holding the licence under
a black light (UV) source <b><a href="http://lcproms.co.uk/scanner.htm">costing less than
£25!!</a></b></font></p>
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</p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">These images represent
a genuine DVLA issued UK driving licence and counterpart as viewed under
UV light. <br>
<br>
Move your mouse over the images and you will see yellow images of the
Royal Crown on the photo licence and you will see the green text flouresce
on the counterpart and a scatter of small blue &amp; green lines appear
which is representative of the UV security marking as seen on genuine
licences, these images are invisible to the naked eye and can only be
seen when subjected to an Ultra Violet light source.</font></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><img src="Anti%20Fraud,%20Helping%20You%20Guard%20Again st%20Identity%20Theft,%20Money%20Laundering%20and% 20Fraud_files/Licence.gif" border="0" height="160" width="250">
<br>
<img src="Anti%20Fraud,%20Helping%20You%20Guard%20Again st%20Identity%20Theft,%20Money%20Laundering%20and% 20Fraud_files/D740.gif" border="0" height="168" width="400"> </p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">These images represent
a computer generated counterfiet UK driving licence and counterpart
as viewed under UV light. <br>
<br>
Move your mouse over the licence and you will see no change in the images,
which is representative of counterfiet licences as viewed under UV light.<br>
<br>
Ultra Violet printing is a specialised print process that, to our knowledge,
cannot be replicated using home PC systems. If a licence does not flouresce
when subjected to an Ultra Violet light source, that licence is almost
certainly counterfiet.</font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://lcproms.co.uk/contact.htm">Contact
Us</a></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://lcproms.co.uk/whocan.htm">Who
can help?</a></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://lcproms.co.uk/scanner.htm">UV
Light</a></font></p>
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[Brian Doolan]

This one?

Ah, you were so nearly there.

The UV licence, not the counterfeit one

Attachment 7850

OK, I owe you a pint and well done but I still believe encryption protects against the majority of web plagiarists.

[Lee Bartholomew]

Ah, you were so nearly there.

The UV licence, not the counterfeit one

Attachment 7850

OK, I owe you a pint and well done but I still believe encryption protects against the majority of web plagiarists.

OK hold on


{edit a few seconds later}
there we go.....

Ah wont let me post attachment.

Want to know how its done?

[MartinHarper]

See how long it takes to reply to this post inserting the gif of the UV Licence from the home page in your reply

The image woodface posted is easy enough to obtain in Firefox. Menu -> Tools -> Page Info -> "Media" tab -> "Save As..."

The version under UV required me to bother "decrypting" the page (see above), but is available here:
http://lcproms.co.uk/images/Licenceuv.gif

[Lee Bartholomew]

Didn't do it that way MH. That would have been easier though. lol

Anyone else get the source?

[Brian Doolan]

The image woodface posted is easy enough to obtain in Firefox. Menu -> Tools -> Page Info -> "Media" tab -> "Save As..."

The version under UV required me to bother "decrypting" the page (see above), but is available here:
http://lcproms.co.uk/images/Licenceuv.gif

Nah, not good enough

Woodface is by far the winner, you've only posted a link to the image, his post was an actual image but still the WRONG ONE

[Lee Bartholomew]

Nah, not good enough

Woodface is by far the winner, you've only posted a link to the image, his post was an actual image but still the WRONG ONE

Here we go. lol

Had to rename it. wouldn;t let me post it on forum first time around. Very very easy.