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In my experience, nothing travels faster than bad news...Originally Posted by Shodan
Ok fellow Sci-Fi geeks.... on another forum I'm a member off, a debate about the main two faster than light travelling devices has started up.
Which is fastest: Warp travel or Hyperspace ?
Those that don't understand what these are need not apply.
So far, the arguement has edged towards the use of Hyperspace could theoretically be the faster means as Warp travel has a limit of Warp 10.
BUT if you do exceed Warp 10 then you are instantly everywhere in the universe all at once (according to some Warp 10 theories and also an epsiode of Voyager).
Obviously feel free to talk about other FTL systems as well and argue your case. Obviously again the New Galactica FTL system is obviously the fastest as its instantaneous using a form of Event Horizon space folding travel.
In my experience, nothing travels faster than bad news...
According to Jeremy Clarkson's "I know U got soul"
Hyperspace
But the dormouse might have other ideas
Wasnt warp 11 or 12 used in if not Voyger some other sci fi maybe Star Treck
I think Wogan achieved Warp 10 in mid late 90s , he seem to be every where all the time ??
I've ben told I'm warped
Can of worms opened here!
I don't know enough about Star Wars hyperspace to talk about time, but are we talking about evidence from the films only or books as well? And as Star Wars book are accepted as official canon but Star Trek books aren't, does this skew things?
Anyway, Warp 10 is the theoetical fastest speed, but if anyone has read the book 'Federation' (bit of an old one), then it mentions something called sidewarp. No idea what this is, but it's a lot faster than warp drive. Not to mention the type of engine that Excelsior prototyped. Or was this just a futuristic (for the time) version of TNG warp drive?
Anyone read 'The Mote in God's Eye'? The FTL in that uses jump points (Langston Points from memory?) where the ship travels instantaneously between points. Pretty fast.
What about Babylon 5 hyperspace as well? That looks similar to Star Wars, but I've always had the impression that you could change direction at will in there, but not so much in Star Wars.
I could go on, but I really really won't. Just my £0.02 worth.
Warp speeds are based off (at least) two different scales, before and after "Gene's Recalibration". In the new system, Warp 10 is infinite speed. In the old system, Warp 10 is not a limit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warp_dr...arp_velocities
Yeah, but you can only go between Crazy Eddie Points, so it's a bit limited.
Hard to top the 'Burroughs' space drive in "The Number of the Beast" - instantaneous transport to any place, any when, any universe. Pity it marked the "end-slide" in RAH's writing decline...
Still fast, though.
Thats a "transwarp" drive. Its an experimental version of what the Borg use in later Star Trek series. It flopped as a drive system and the Excelsior was refitted with a standard Warp Drive.
Sorry, in my first post I was talking about Babylon5's Hyperspace system. I forgot that Star Wars also uses the same name for it. Apologees.
Correct, the Warp scale use in the original series is slow than that of TNG onwards.
In my first post I was referring to newer Warp systems, as used from TNG onwards where Warp 10 is the limit, as its infinite speed and as such theoretically impossible to achieve. (except that episode of Voyager where Tom Paris makes a shuttle achieve Warp 10).
That's if you hit warp 10 I believe (on the recalibrated scale). It's an exponential scale though so Voyager took it to silly "we can do speeds of Warp 9.975 or something which is much faster than warp 9.5. The Borg used something called Transwarp which got around the problem as far as I could see and allowed faster than Warp travel but getting around the co-terminus problem (if that is a problem).
Hyperspace was never really explained. It got around star systems but, like all good things in Star Wars, it worked better if it wasn't explained:
"How does your lightsaber work?"
"Just fine, thank you."
I believe from some of the literature (which might not be cannon) it's an traceable route since they could stick large gravitational objects in the path of a hyperspaced ship and it would be dropped out of hyperspace (or destroyed). Also the Empire made some sort of gravitational ship that could stop hyperspace jumps.
I expect Wikipedia has lots of information on both, it's the sort of things Wikipedia users post about.
Not that I know anything about these things, but wouldn't the "Event Horizon" have been impressively fast if only they could have got it to go somewhere other than Hell?
This sounds suspiciously like the: 'My imaginary big stick is bigger than your imaginary big stick' debate.
So I'm going to say 'Hyperspace' (without bothering to justify it in any way), and if anyone dares disagree, I'm going to hit them repeatedly over the head with my bigger-than-anyone-else's imaginary big stick until they back down
(as I seem to be stuck on a Dune mode at the moment)
Which is faster Hyperspace, Warp travel or Using the orange spice gas which gives you the ability to fold space
but surely you can only see through time and space with the melange? not travel.(as I seem to be stuck on a Dune mode at the moment)
Which is faster Hyperspace, Warp travel or Using the orange spice gas which gives you the ability to fold space
Has there been a ship using Warp Drive that's done the Kessler run in less than 12 parsecs?!?
That's how Voyager got home though, wasn't it? So although Starfleet abandoned it, it clearly still works - and is faster than warp drive too.Thats a "transwarp" drive. Its an experimental version of what the Borg use in later Star Trek series. It flopped as a drive system and the Excelsior was refitted with a standard Warp Drive.
My lightsabre will make short work of that stick.I'm going to hit them repeatedly over the head with my bigger-than-anyone-else's imaginary big stick until they back down
Interdictor-class vessel. Basically park it on any hyperspace route and drag a ship out of it.Also the Empire made some sort of gravitational ship that could stop hyperspace jumps.
The geek is strong in this one.
Obi Wan has taught him well...
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