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    Negative rep - is it useful?

    I've been thinking about negative rep (as you do), and two powerful arguments have been made against it, so I thought it'd be interesting to debate it.

    1. "Taking points away"
    A negative rep takes "your" points away from you - it's arguable that this is intrinsically unfair, as these are your own reputation points; people can of course give, but shouldn't be allowed to remove them. People can give you money, but shouldn't take it from you.

    2. "Bad feeling"
    Like it or not, getting neg-repped tends to annoy people, and they often then post about it, which generally doesn't help the overall tone of the forum. Reading some threads, one could be forgiven for thinking they're flying about like crazy (they're not, by the way!), and that this is a nasty place full of evil neg-reppers or something. It feels a bit too flame-y, in other words.

    So, I guess what I'm asking is: what purpose do neg-reps serve, that's not covered by either open debate / complaint, or by reporting a post?

    P.S. This thread is not a poll, as I want a debate not a vote.

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Personally think it's pointless.

    To many people use it to make a statement about a discussion without actually contributing to the discussion itself.

    I.e. I've had a few that have gone along the lines of"I don't agree with what you've said". If thats the case, then put your point forward openly.

    Also had a few saying that the pointers I give are bad etc. How can me stating what I do to achive something be a bad pointer (most people here know what im talking about).

    It's seems a majority of neg reps are handed out by the minority. I will only use them against people who have (IMO) neg-repped me without a good reson.

    Rant over

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    I think it's just as pointless as pos rep in the grand scheme of things. When it comes down to it, people take it all too seriously.

    Some people (woodface and others?) need to step back and realise how bad neg rep really is. It can't kill you and it can't make you pregnant.

    Neg rep me if you like, I bet I won't cry and I'll sleep just fine tonight.


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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Na Gav, It bothered me at first but I have kind of got used to it. Everytime I have a new rep comment i expect it to be red. Have been pos and neg repped for the same comments before now.

    It is more anoying that people don't put their arguments across publicly.

    Would I get some pos rep if I did manage to get myself pregnant?

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    Na Gav, It bothered me at first but I have kind of got used to it. Everytime I have a new rep comment i expect it to be red. Have been pos and neg repped for the same comments before now.

    It is more anoying that people don't put their arguments across publicly.

    Would I get some pos rep if I did manage to get myself pregnant?
    Damn, I was going to rep you with some comment about off-line discussions, but the system won't let me.

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Neg rep is simply the opposite of positive rep. If you're going to have one, you should have the other.

    Don't quite see the 'argument' of neg rep 'causing bad feeling'. If there is no outlet to neg. rep, can't imagine the outcome of that being terribly good either - it's going to come out somewhere - most likely in a (public) thread.

    Besides - it can be fun being neg and positive repped for the same post

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    It's seems a majority of neg reps are handed out by the minority. I will only use them against people who have (IMO) neg-repped me without a good reson.
    Yeah, that's what I mean when I say "neg-repping creates bad feeling"

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Personally I don't neg rep people I would rather say what I want than click a button, I have only neg rep twice the first was because someone neg. rep me and soon after I disagreed with there comments so I neg. rep them, childish I know i'm over it now. the second was because I said I wasn't going to comment on a subject recently, but i just can't keep it shut, if somthing annoys me so I neg rept with acomment.

    I have lost all my points I wonder why that is .... so i don't suppose it matters.

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
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    It's seems a majority of neg reps are handed out by the minority.
    This could be changed if you don't like the arrangement... Isn't that just the 80/20 rule in action?



    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    .I will only use them against people who have (IMO) neg-repped me without a good reson.

    Rant over
    Ah, the Stewart38 neg rep strategy. I had missed it.

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    I've given neg rep once because I believe the individual was being unneccessarily offensive to someone else.

    I've been given neg rep once which I thought was totally undeserved, but I won't be saving neg rep for them in the future. Life's too short and in pretty short time they may be deserving of pos rep!

    If you're going to get rid of it, then you might as well get rid of rep altogether.
    I've had pos rep for posting nice lyrics, posting inflammatory remarks and for posting genuine well thought out opinions about dancing (believe it or not!). Without me saying that, you have no idea why I have 200ish points so what relevance does it have?

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Yeah, that's what I mean when I say "neg-repping creates bad feeling"
    So would you also ban pos rep love-fests - when a group of people all seem to pos rep each other constantly?

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
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    Yeah, that's what I mean when I say "neg-repping creates bad feeling"

    Hold on, didn't I just say that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    So would you also ban pos rep love-fests - when a group of people all seem to pos rep each other constantly?
    Well, obviously I wouldn't want to promote good feeling, I mean, I'm not crazy, next thing you know we'll all be hugging each other or something...

    Seriously, if people want to do that, what's wrong with that? It's a positive expression of appreciation; if it's regular, why's that a problem?

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    So would you also ban pos rep love-fests - when a group of people all seem to pos rep each other constantly?
    You can't do that, I believe. I thought you couldn't rep the same people all the time. I might be wrong. Is that right DJ?

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Yeah, that's what I mean when I say "neg-repping creates bad feeling"

    Hold on, didn't I just say that?
    Quite. Wouldn't be steering the thread, would we DJ?

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
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    Seriously, if people want to do that (pos rep rests), what's wrong with that? It's a positive expression of appreciation; if it's regular, why's that a problem?
    So if you believe this is okay, then why not neg rep? I just don't see the difference? I mean, what about all the people who don't get positive rep very often ... don't they feel bad because they're missing out? Jealous? Suicidal? Outside the clique?

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    As you say, You can give people money but you can't steal it.

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble View Post
    You can't do that, I believe. I thought you couldn't rep the same people all the time. I might be wrong. Is that right DJ?
    You have to leave a gap. it's true, so there are some restrictions on that sort of thing. "Love-bombing", harumph, disgusting

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    So if you believe this is okay, then why not neg rep?
    Err, because positive feeling is, well, better than negative feeling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    I just don't see the difference? I mean, what about all the people who don't get positive rep very often ... don't they feel bad because they're missing out? Jealous? Suicidal? Outside the clique?
    Well, I'm famous for being Mr Social, it hasn't hurt me too much, so I doubt there's too much negative feeling from not having enough points of rep or whatever.

    Certainly I've not seen many people whinge about it, whereas I regularly see people complaining about being negative repped, all the flippin' time it seems... Perception is important, in other words.

    Oh, and I've been neg-repped, and I usually did deserve it. So there.

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    Quote Originally Posted by woodface View Post
    As you say, You can give people money but you can't steal it.
    But if you're 'bad', you can be fined (if you want to stick with the money analogy).

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    Re: Negative rep - is it useful?

    I also think it might put some people off from posting if they feel their comments will be taken out of line/context or not agreed with.

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