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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Perhaps I'm being a crazy idealistic fool though...
    Remembering the company I worked for in the 90s where you didn't dare leave your desk even to get a coffee without locking your machine (or return to find that some very amusing colleague had used your ID to send a dodgy e-mail to all 10K people in the company address book), yes, perhaps you are.

    I'd be worried about people editing my posts so they said what I didn't intend.

    Hang on... the moderators can do that ...

    Seriously though, if someone "new" could immediately pay up for Gold Membership and have all those extra editing goodies, it might cause mayhem.

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by LMC View Post
    Remembering the company I worked for in the 90s where you didn't dare leave your desk even to get a coffee without locking your machine (or return to find that some very amusing colleague had used your ID to send a dodgy e-mail to all 10K people in the company address book), yes, perhaps you are.
    Version-control systems. They are your friend, trust me

    Quote Originally Posted by LMC View Post
    I'd be worried about people editing my posts so they said what I didn't intend.

    Hang on... the moderators can do that ...
    But even then, there's already a visible record of any edit.

    And if someone gets a reputation for excessive editing of other people's posts, no-one will post on threads that person creates, so they'll feel pretty lonely talking to themselves all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by LMC View Post
    Seriously though, if someone "new" could immediately pay up for Gold Membership and have all those extra editing goodies, it might cause mayhem.
    Yep, that's why I think there should be a "get to know you" phase, after Silver Membership - say, 6 months and 500 posts, triggers an invite to the Silver member to see if they want to upgrade.

    I said that a few posts ago.

    And again, I repeat for the hard of understanding, this editing would only be is only on their own threads. it would not be on any threads created by other people.

    That's the fourth time I've said that now - is that part of my text completely invisible or something??

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Just out of interest, what's Franck's stake on this gold membership thing?
    I mean, is it something he even considers ?

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    Version-control systems. They are your friend, trust me
    Hmmm, but would people bother looking at the previous version?

    And if someone gets a reputation for excessive editing of other people's posts, no-one will post on threads that person creates, so they'll feel pretty lonely talking to themselves all the time.
    - but that's not much comfort if you've already had your fingers burned by misrepresentation by that person.

    Yep, that's why I think there should be a "get to know you" phase, after Silver Membership - say, 6 months and 500 posts, triggers an invite to the Silver member to see if they want to upgrade.
    OK, you got me there, I missed that bit, sorry

    And again, I repeat for the hard of understanding, this editing would only be is only on their own threads. it would not be on any threads created by other people.

    That's the fourth time I've said that now - is that part of my text completely invisible or something??
    In reverse order:
    1) no, not at all, it's there in black and grey (I'm using the Grey theme)
    2) I'm blonde, OK? Seriously, I did get that bit (first time too, quite proud of meself) - but frankly, I would avoid posting on a thread created by a Gold member unless I was absolutely positive I could trust them. I'd just like to make it clear that I'm not to be trusted. I might have a mischievous fit at some point and misrepresent people too in an almost certainly vain attempt to be funny. Don't invite me to be a Gold member (cue Austin Powers theme), I'm far too irresponsible.

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caro View Post
    Just out of interest, what's Franck's stake on this gold membership thing?
    I mean, is it something he even considers ?
    Dunno. Ask him

    However, I imagine, if it's something that could be structured to provide more revenue to help defray running costs of this forum, whilst offering more potential options for users, and without significant development costs, that he'd be open to suggestions, as he always has been so far.

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    So would gold members be able to edit other people's threads?

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gav View Post
    So would gold members be able to edit other people's threads?
    "Your reputation can go down as well as up"...

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Some of what has been asked for (and some of what's been tentatively offered) I don't think is possible in the vBulletin forum software. In particular, I don't think these are possible...
    • The ability to retain a history of your previous signatures / avatars
    • Ability to leave comments on profiles and see who has looked at your profile


    One interesting possible "gold" feature I saw mention of was the ability to create "invitation-only" threads – basically you could create threads that only you and your friends could read and post on (besides the moderators and admins. )

    Thoughts on this one?
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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi View Post
    One interesting possible "gold" feature I saw mention of was the ability to create "invitation-only" threads – basically you could create threads that only you and your friends could read and post on (besides the moderators and admins. )

    Thoughts on this one?
    Cliquey in the extreme. That's my thought.

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    How about the ability for gold members to know who has read their own threads (and only those ones), in addition to how many 'hits' they had? Might help to monitor the thread they have created...

    By the way Ducasi, I do think as well that 'invitational' threads are very cliquey and not a great way to encourage friendliness / more networking on the forum.

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caro View Post
    How about the ability for gold members to know who has read their own threads (and only those ones), in addition to how many 'hits' they had? Might help to monitor the thread they have created...
    I'm fairly sure that isn't available as a standard feature, so that would be impractical I suspect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caro View Post
    By the way Ducasi, I do think as well that 'invitational' threads are very cliquey and not a great way to encourage friendliness / more networking on the forum.
    Yeah, but it'd keep you riff-raff away.

    Seriously, the Chat Room is only available to Silver Members, and I've not seen any cries of "Evil Clique!" around. There is (used to be?) a Taxi Dancer section also. So why not have other forum areas reserved for putative Gold Members? Or is it the "invitation" side of things you'd object to?

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    ...

    Seriously, the Chat Room is only available to Silver Members, and I've not seen any cries of "Evil Clique!" around. There is (used to be?) a Taxi Dancer section also. So why not have other forum areas reserved for putative Gold Members? Or is it the "invitation" side of things you'd object to?
    Is the reason there isn't an "Evil Clique" outcry because on a day-to-day basis, it isn't obvious that there were/are hidden forums such as the taxi dancers or Scottish only?

    What would the Gold Members talk about anyway ... their gilt?

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    Is the reason there isn't an "Evil Clique" outcry because on a day-to-day basis, it isn't obvious that there were/are hidden forums such as the taxi dancers or Scottish only?
    Or, possibly, because people accept that different levels of memberships have different levels of privilege? That's kind of the point of paying to be a Silver Member, after all.

    But hey, feel free to start an outcry

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    What would the Gold Members talk about anyway ... their gilt?
    The same thing that Silver Members talk about I imagine, i.e. 90% rubbish.
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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if you don't know you are missing out, then you're not going to protest - and that has nothing to do with accepting or otherwise the perks of various membership levels.

    Hey, are you going to change your "Moderator without Fear" tagline? Didn't you like the results of the poll? Or will it turn into "Guy without a job" if you spend any more time on here?

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if you don't know you are missing out, then you're not going to protest - and that has nothing to do with accepting or otherwise the perks of various membership levels.
    Good thing no-one's told you about the "Everyone but Feelinpink" forum then, whew.
    Oops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    Hey, are you going to change your "Moderator without Fear" tagline? Didn't you like the results of the poll?
    I've been hampered by having forgotten.

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    What would the Gold Members talk about anyway ... their gilt?
    One possibility is as an anti-stalker thing. If a forum is only viewable by Silver/Gold people, then everyone reading has to have paid Franck some money, which might make people feel safer talking about more private stuff, or sharing personally identifiable information, or talking about where they are going to be.

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    What would the Gold Members talk about anyway ... their gilt?
    They'd talk about the Silver Members, of course *wicked laugh*

    Seriously, I don't know. Most of the stuff talked about in the Chat room has been day-to-day natter. Some of it amusing, some of it serious. I guess the Gold Members could have a section and decide for themselves what sub-sections they would like to see. It will, after all, be 'their' section.

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    Re: "Gold" membership - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feelingpink View Post
    Is the reason there isn't an "Evil Clique" outcry because on a day-to-day basis, it isn't obvious that there were/are hidden forums such as the taxi dancers or Scottish only?

    What would the Gold Members talk about anyway ... their gilt?
    Has the "Scottish Only" forum been pulled now then?

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