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    Just downloaded and installed Mozilla Firefox 2 last night.

    For those of you still labouring with Internet Explorer, give it a try. It will import your bookmarks, etc, and it's more secure and more advanced than IE7, which most of you won't have anyway, probably using IE6.

    Plus, Firefox 2 has a built-in spell checker!! Those of you who might benefit from this know who you are...

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    Re: PC Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    Plus, Firefox 2 has a built-in spell checker!! Those of you who might benefit from this know who you are...
    Juste wot i kneaded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    Just downloaded and installed Mozilla Firefox 2 last night.

    For those of you still labouring with Internet Explorer, give it a try. It will import your bookmarks, etc, and it's more secure and more advanced than IE7, which most of you won't have anyway, probably using IE6.

    Plus, Firefox 2 has a built-in spell checker!! Those of you who might benefit from this know who you are...
    Oh god.....

    Look - I know Firefox is better than IE (especially IE7, which is now, of necessity, installed on my machine) - in fact I use Firefox for 95% of my PC web browsing - but the arrival of a major new browser upgrade will invariably bring any web professional out in a cold sweat
    For example - I spent much of Monday fixing dropdown menus that no longer worked in IE7 courtesy of some new bugs they've introduced.

    Having said that...

    Off to download FF2 now...
    Last edited by straycat; 25th-October-2006 at 09:24 AM.

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    Though I don't think the jump from Firefox 1.5 to 2.0 is anywhere as big as the jump from IE6 to IE7.
    Let your mind go and your body will follow. – Steve Martin, LA Story

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    Just to report that my earlier gloom has been alieviated somewhat. FF2 seems a niiiiice piece of software, and in direct contrast to the slug-like IE7, seems to be running a lot faster and more smoothly than its predecessor

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    Re: PC Security

    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi View Post


    Though I don't think the jump from Firefox 1.5 to 2.0 is anywhere as big as the jump from IE6 to IE7.
    Well IE7 actually mostly conforms to the CSS2 standard (compared to 6.0 that had so many rendering bugs it was unreal). Not like it does me any good in my day-to-day life since my work is firmly routed in IE6.

    I've been using the FireFox2 release candidates for a while and I've been happy with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducasi View Post


    Though I don't think the jump from Firefox 1.5 to 2.0 is anywhere as big as the jump from IE6 to IE7.
    Isn't that just an indictment of how far behind IE6 had got?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shnikov View Post
    Isn't that just an indictment of how far behind IE6 had got?
    Pretty much... although truth be told, at this moment I vastly prefer IE6 to IE7 - CSS2 fixes or not, at least it was fairly solid and consistent, and I knew the quirks and bugs and workarounds. Right now, IE7 feels flaky as hell, and it looks like I'll have to learn a whole set of new quirks and bugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    Pretty much... although truth be told, at this moment I vastly prefer IE6 to IE7 - CSS2 fixes or not, at least it was fairly solid and consistent, and I knew the quirks and bugs and workarounds. Right now, IE7 feels flaky as hell, and it looks like I'll have to learn a whole set of new quirks and bugs
    A list of the CSS improvements can be found here and there is a guide to dehacking your CSS so it works with IE6 and IE7 here. I do agree that the fact that the IE7 release is XP and beyond only isn't great for web developers just trying to uniform across all browsers (as lots of people will still be on IE6 for some time to come).

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    Downloaded ie7 & the top row of buttons has disappeared & no idea where my favourites have gone.

    Should I overwrite ie7 with Firefox.

    ie7 seems quite slow & it crashed my pc yesterday

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    Firefox won't overwrite IE. It'll just give you an alternative - you'll still have IE7 if you need it. And yes - do give Firefox a whirl - it's a much nicer browser to use, in my opinion. Very stable, and pretty nippy as well.

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    Re: PC Security

    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    Firefox won't overwrite IE. It'll just give you an alternative - you'll still have IE7 if you need it. And yes - do give Firefox a whirl - it's a much nicer browser to use, in my opinion. Very stable, and pretty nippy as well.
    More importantly, it's much easier to browse the forum with - tabs

    (although has IE7 got tabs now?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidJames View Post
    (although has IE7 got tabs now?)
    It does, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy Locket View Post
    Downloaded ie7 & the top row of buttons has disappeared & no idea where my favourites have gone.
    It seems to "clean up" the interface and it does that by removing any sort of consistent user interface. Apparently having such things is something Microsoft forgets about (Windows Media Player is another example).

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy Locket View Post
    Should I overwrite ie7 with Firefox.

    ie7 seems quite slow & it crashed my pc yesterday
    As Straycat mentioned it won't overwrite it. You can give it a go... decide you don't like it and go back to using IE if you like (or just use it for some pages).

    If IE is crashing your PC then I see no reason why you should continue using it over, say, Firefox (or Opera). Those browsers don't try and integrate with your PC as much so if they do fall over (and I don't see them doing that much) then they don't take your PC with it.

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    If only we COULD uninstall IE and Outlook express and Windows Media Player. Waste of space the lot of them. And with Windows Media Player 11 set to DRM even your OWN mp3s from CDs Microsoft are proving that the forced monopoly they have is of no benefit to the consumer whatsoever.

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    I downloaded firefox. Do like the tab thing. Thanks for the suggestion.

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    In my ignorance, if I download Firefox will I still have outlook??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy Locket View Post
    In my ignorance, if I download Firefox will I still have outlook??
    Yes, if you still want it...

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    Works for me. I've been using Firefox for about a month having moved sideways from Safari (on an apple mac (using OSX) which was giving me problems with my POP email provider) and have to say I'm impressed. It's smooth, stable (hasn't crashed...) and similar in styling.... will probably migrate with the windows laptop as well.

    I fear I'm beginning to sound like an anorak!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy Locket View Post
    In my ignorance, if I download Firefox will I still have outlook??
    Yes. Firefox will not remove anything from your system at all. It will simply show you a better way of life

    Although if you fancy a change from outlook, you can get Thunderbird from the Mozilla site (where you get Firefox from), which a few friends have recommended...

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    Quote Originally Posted by straycat264 View Post
    Although if you fancy a change from outlook, you can get Thunderbird from the Mozilla site (where you get Firefox from), which a few friends have recommended...
    It depends if you use Outlook Express (the free outlook mail client) or Outlook proper. Thunderbird doesn't, yet, have any calendar app or anything so doesn't replace the functionality of Outlook (though you can use Thunderbird for email and still use Outlook for it's calendar).

    I like Thunderbird, it's mail sorting is good but now-a-days I just use Google Mail online anyway.

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