I hate to be lawyerish, but I think those posting on this and the other "Boreland" threads should exercise a little caution. It's one thing to be critical of the event on Friday 20 October at the Hippodrome; it's quite another to make derogatory and, arguably, defamatory statements about him.
I agree with that. It would have been nicer. In fairness I don't think anyone organizing this expected such a negative reaction from people.
When I left on Friday night I knew some people would be surprised at the announcement, but I didn't think anyone would be upset by it. I thought people would be excited about a new club opening in Central London. And what a cool way to announce it too!
I was really shocked and surprised to read so much negativity about the night. I thought it was really special. I have never been to a modern jive event quite like it. It is not somewhere that I would personally choose to frequent, but I think its existence enriches our culture the same way the National Gallery does, even though I never go.
I think that if Simon had known certain people would have felt 'used' he may have taken steps to avoid it. I don't know him very well so I can't say. Either way, I still think the way some people are reacting it too much. At the most it was 'not nice.' Most of us are probably unintentionally not very nice several times a day. The end result though is a venture that I think deserves support.
Just to make it clear I am not in any way involved in promoting or organizing jivenation. I volunteered to do a cabaret there because I wanted to for my own selfish reasons - get it filmed on a professional stage. But my involvement ended there.
In fact last Monday we made a loss at Meltdown for the first time ever, maybe because of the new Monday night competition. So why am I defending the event and Simon so much?
I have no idea. Stupidity, probably.
But it is hard to start something new, for a new market. Like Get a Grip says, you do all the hard work, then a bigger organization can easily come along and make a profit out of your experimentation. It would be cool to see more new things encouraged and supported, not shot down.
Not at all, as I have said, I can completely understand Ceroc being upset that he has targetted their customers (hard not to really) but as a potential customer, I do not feel I was fooled in anyway.
I have no idea who you are, but you are completely wrong on that score. I left Ceroc, as I was so unhappy, I had a number of correspondences from people at Ceroc saying they were sorry about the situation, and asking me to return, I did, temporarily, then one more thing was said which made me decide I could no longer continue to work for the organisation. I still have a copy of the email that I sent, and all responses back, and would be happy to make them public, if you like?
Last edited by TiggsTours; 25th-October-2006 at 09:10 AM.
I'm not sure that anyone from Ceroc has ever said that he's targetted their customers, or that anyone from Ceroc has said they're upset about anything he's done. In fact I'm fairly confident that no-one from Ceroc has ever said anything at all about this. So please let's not jump to conclusions.
So, back to these emus...
Try playing NICE (Yeah, I know , pot calling kettle black etc) ... but there is no need to get another thread taken outside just because GAG wants to carry out a personal vendetta. If you've got problem .. use the PM system. ..... seems to be a lot of anger .... either someone is a Ceroc evangelist or simply not getting any ..... answers as to what the any is on the back of a postcard please.
Again.
I have just PMd GAG my email that I sent to Ceroc telling them of my decision to leave, I can also PM him the email I received telling me that I am a valuable member of the crew and they hope I reconsider. If anyone else wants to see them, let me know, but I'm sure that none of the rest of you really care!
(Yawning smillie needed, once more).
I'd love to know what GAG's personal issue is with me, I have asked him privately to let me know, but he won't.
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