jiveoholic
3rd-July-2006, 06:45 PM
Whilst on a mission to document all the unique "essences" of moves, I stumbled upon a problem - naming spins and turns.
I like to use well known jive terms where necessary - we all know what a basket is, what an arm-jive feels like - even a butterfly, however there are a number of terms for spins and turns:
Turn: Lady turned clockwise using pressure on her right hand at shoulder height
Push-spin: Lady spun clockwise using pressure on her right hand shoulder level
Lady-spin: Lady spun clockwise using pressure on her right hand at waist level
Wurlitzer: Lady spun anti-clockwise using pressure on her left hand at waist level
Return: Lady turned anti-clockwise using a PULL on her right hand.
There are of course more complicated turns combined with exchanging places including the archi-spin, step-across etc.
Now - if one defines a spin as a turn that gives up the connection, there are 4 pure spins and 4 pure turns (of the lady). For each, there is clockwise and anti-clockwise and either a compressive start with the hand the will be ahead when turning or a pull with the hand that will be behind.
So, 2 and 3 above are really very similar - "compressive clockwise" and the wurlitzer is "compressive anti-clockwise", the spin version of the turn in 1. A compression start is nice as it allows the girl to turn/spin herself. It seems that turn and spin are clockwise. In contrast a return is a "dragged affair", necessary though.
What about the spin at the end of the catapult? This is a pull clockwise. How about turning a lady anti-clockwise with pressure on her left hand - probably feels most wierd!
What about a man-spin? Not only is it a pathetic attempt of a spin - more of a change of places really, it is anti-clockwise! It seems that jive terminology might not be consistent enough to use.
HAVE YOU GOT THIS FAR?!......NEARLY THERE....
Do any of the dancing experts here know of posh dance terms to define spins/turns, particularly whether they refer to clockwise or anti-clockwise and are initiated by compression or tension?
I am tempted to use spin (CW) and anti-spin (ACW) , turn (CW) and return (ACW) and and use the modifier "pull" when the "wrong hand" is used for the first 3 and "pull" is one performs a return by pressure on the left hand.
A catapult would therefore be defined as two essences "catapult" and "pull-spin". A first move would be "first move", "turn", "return".
Comments?
I like to use well known jive terms where necessary - we all know what a basket is, what an arm-jive feels like - even a butterfly, however there are a number of terms for spins and turns:
Turn: Lady turned clockwise using pressure on her right hand at shoulder height
Push-spin: Lady spun clockwise using pressure on her right hand shoulder level
Lady-spin: Lady spun clockwise using pressure on her right hand at waist level
Wurlitzer: Lady spun anti-clockwise using pressure on her left hand at waist level
Return: Lady turned anti-clockwise using a PULL on her right hand.
There are of course more complicated turns combined with exchanging places including the archi-spin, step-across etc.
Now - if one defines a spin as a turn that gives up the connection, there are 4 pure spins and 4 pure turns (of the lady). For each, there is clockwise and anti-clockwise and either a compressive start with the hand the will be ahead when turning or a pull with the hand that will be behind.
So, 2 and 3 above are really very similar - "compressive clockwise" and the wurlitzer is "compressive anti-clockwise", the spin version of the turn in 1. A compression start is nice as it allows the girl to turn/spin herself. It seems that turn and spin are clockwise. In contrast a return is a "dragged affair", necessary though.
What about the spin at the end of the catapult? This is a pull clockwise. How about turning a lady anti-clockwise with pressure on her left hand - probably feels most wierd!
What about a man-spin? Not only is it a pathetic attempt of a spin - more of a change of places really, it is anti-clockwise! It seems that jive terminology might not be consistent enough to use.
HAVE YOU GOT THIS FAR?!......NEARLY THERE....
Do any of the dancing experts here know of posh dance terms to define spins/turns, particularly whether they refer to clockwise or anti-clockwise and are initiated by compression or tension?
I am tempted to use spin (CW) and anti-spin (ACW) , turn (CW) and return (ACW) and and use the modifier "pull" when the "wrong hand" is used for the first 3 and "pull" is one performs a return by pressure on the left hand.
A catapult would therefore be defined as two essences "catapult" and "pull-spin". A first move would be "first move", "turn", "return".
Comments?