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Trousers
7th-May-2006, 01:34 AM
Have we bitched about this recently?


No


. .. . . . . Oh goody!


. . . . . . . . . . . . . .. Engage BITCH Mode.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .. Disengage Sense of proportion overrides.


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . .Bloody Stamping really jerks my chain. Stamp OOOOH look at me!!!! I can mark a rythm break in the music with a Stamp

Stamp OOOOOOH looook at me my arse you should be able to mark a break in the music with your dancing not stamping on the floor!


Lets have no more of this ridiculous behaviour from now on.!

MartinHarper
7th-May-2006, 03:45 AM
Stamping is great. Except when I have a sore leg the following day.
Yeah, that probably means I do it too much. The important point about stamping is that when the music doesn't break when you think it should, you can just alter the music to fix this. No, really.

Frankie_4711
7th-May-2006, 11:51 AM
Scared the beejazus out of me the first few times I heard it happening!! Doesn't (often!) do that to me anymore, just don't see the point ... :confused: :what:

TheTramp
7th-May-2006, 12:07 PM
The important point about stamping is that when the music doesn't break when you think it should, you can just alter the music to fix this. No, really.

How many DJ's do you know that still use the outdated things like vinyl, or CDs. Stamp as often as you like near my laptop, you still won't creak any breaks!! :rolleyes:

Ghost
7th-May-2006, 12:18 PM
Scared the beejazus out of me the first few times I heard it happening!! Doesn't (often!) do that to me anymore, just don't see the point ... :confused: :what:
It can be annoying when you're really connected to a lady, flowing along with the music and then

STAMPSTAMPSTAMPSTAMPSTAMPSTAMPSTAMPSTAMPSTAMPSTAMP STAMP

especially if it startles her.

Now you have to get back to the state you were just in :tears:

It can be done well though, in which case it adds to the music. It's like people yelping during a concert. Do it at the right point and the band is encouraged and plays better. Do it at the wrong point however.........

I remember the first time I experienced stamping. I was dancing to a track I hadn't heard before and just hit a break with a slow comb when what seemed like the whole room exploded into stamping! There was a moment of :confused: then we both smiled at each other and enjoyed the rest of the slo comb with the rest of the room applauding us with their stamping (ok so the rest of the room probably didn't see it that way and were probably completely oblivious to us- the lady was happy, I was happy - it's all good :clap: )

Be Well,
Christopher

Dance Demon
7th-May-2006, 01:29 PM
How many DJ's do you know that still use the outdated things like vinyl, or CDs. Stamp as often as you like near my laptop, you still won't creak any breaks!! :rolleyes:

is there a "yawn" smiley anywhere:rolleyes:

doc martin
7th-May-2006, 01:42 PM
is there a "yawn" smiley anywhere:rolleyes:
Strangely enough 5322 or maybe 5323

Jive Brummie
7th-May-2006, 05:36 PM
How many DJ's do you know that still use the outdated things like vinyl, or CDs. Stamp as often as you like near my laptop, you still won't creak any breaks!! :rolleyes:

All hail the laptop DJ. Pete Tong, Tall Paul, Fergie and Fat Boy Slim...Trampy laughs in your (extremely rich!) faces!

HA!

JB:whistle:

Piglet
7th-May-2006, 06:25 PM
If the stamping you're talking about is the same stamping that I'm thinking of, then I like it. It doesn't happen enough in my book :D I think I only know of 3 dancers who do it....

ducasi
7th-May-2006, 08:17 PM
... what seemed like the whole room exploded into stamping! :what:

I have only come across one or two determined stampers in my regular haunts around Glasgow and Edinburgh... Unless I've just tuned them all out... :non-existent-shrug-smiley:

Lindsay
7th-May-2006, 10:03 PM
How many DJ's do you know that still use the outdated things like vinyl, or CDs. Stamp as often as you like near my laptop, you still won't creak any breaks!! :rolleyes:
Is that a challenge?
I'm up!

Trousers
7th-May-2006, 10:42 PM
Stamping is great. Except when I have a sore leg the following day.
Yeah, that probably means I do it too much. The important point about stamping is that when the music doesn't break when you think it should, you can just alter the music to fix this. No, really.

Really?

I thought my role as lead was to select moves and timing those moves to somehow reflect or interpret the music I hear. Surely if I STAMP at a quiet moment in the music or just 'cos i want to STAMP to create a break I'm effectively altering the music?

dunno how to follow that really - I like my way better. :rolleyes:




hmmmmm i smell bad rep heading my way!

Caro
7th-May-2006, 11:24 PM
guys... :confused: sorry, but what is stampling???? :flower:
surely I can't be the only not native reading this forum? :blush:

Miss Conduct
7th-May-2006, 11:44 PM
guys... :confused: sorry, but what is stampling???? :flower:
surely I can't be the only not native reading this forum? :blush:

Don't quote me but I think it's supposed to be kind of a 'style' point. It's sometime taught in this area to coincide with a flick spin, the man just stamps hard on the floor and it's usually quite loud.

Personally I think it's done mainly by men who want to draw attention to themselves and I REALLY don't like it. But that's just my opinion

Ghost
7th-May-2006, 11:48 PM
Don't quote me but I think it's supposed to be kind of a 'style' point. It's sometime taught in this area to coincide with a flick spin, the man just stamps hard on the floor and it's usually quite loud.

In my limited experience it's multiple stamps for a second or two - it does kinda sound like applause.

[QUOTE=Miss Conduct]Personally I think it's done mainly by men who want to draw attention to themselves and I REALLY don't like it. But that's just my opinion
Any Forumites who STAMP care to comment :whistle:

Be Well,
Christopher

spindr
7th-May-2006, 11:59 PM
If it's intentional then it could be an "appel" (sp?) from Paso, or a "sevillanas" (sp? x 2) from Flamenco.

Otherwise, it's probably just stomping.

SpinDr

Caro
8th-May-2006, 12:07 AM
Don't quote me but I think it's supposed to be kind of a 'style' point. It's sometime taught in this area to coincide with a flick spin, the man just stamps hard on the floor and it's usually quite loud.

Personally I think it's done mainly by men who want to draw attention to themselves and I REALLY don't like it. But that's just my opinion

cheers Miss Conduct & Ghost! :flower:

If that's what it is, hum I don't really see anything wrong with it provided it is done with the music and not too often... like once in a dance seems more than enough, and only if there is an appropriate time in the track to do it...

a whole dancefloor stamping at the same time... must be funny :rofl:



In my limited experience it's multiple stamps for a second or two - it does kinda sound like applause.



never seen that! again, with the right music and at the right time... might be kinda funny too... would have to see & hear!:rolleyes:

Whitebeard
8th-May-2006, 12:32 AM
Somewhere, in the not too distant past, the Hatchback was a beginner move. It now seems to have completely disappeared from the repertoire. However, and anyway, at the time, an optional extra on count four (I think), was that, as the lady was encouraged to go into a c/w spin, there was a STAMP to celebrate this instance of leader domination. It was part of the move, and completely unrelated to the music.

I have since come to really hate these stamps which are a gross intrusion upon the relationship which I am trying to establish between me, the music, and my partner. Someone else is attempting to assert his (almost always) dominance. If I ignore him, will he go away. Somehow I doubt it.

Tiggerbabe
8th-May-2006, 07:02 AM
Somewhere, in the not too distant past, the Hatchback was a beginner move. It now seems to have completely disappeared from the repertoire.
The hatchback is one of the classic intermediate moves :nice:

Heather
8th-May-2006, 07:47 AM
The hatchback is one of the classic intermediate moves :nice:


:confused: And I thought the hatchback was a type of motor vehicle !:rofl: :rofl:

:hug:
Heather

Heather
8th-May-2006, 07:51 AM
BTW . I don't know of many people up here who 'stamp', but I don't like the idea of a room full of stamping men so any if any Scottish guys are reading this - don't get any ideas!!! DON'T stamp with me !:sick:

:hug:
Heather
x

DavidB
8th-May-2006, 08:06 AM
Amazing - over 20 posts now, and no-one has suggested stamping this practice out, or putting their foot down.

El Salsero Gringo
8th-May-2006, 10:02 AM
Somewhere, in the not too distant past, the Hatchback was a beginner move. It now seems to have completely disappeared from the repertoire. However, and anyway, at the time, an optional extra on count four (I think), was that, as the lady was encouraged to go into a c/w spin, there was a STAMP to celebrate this instance of leader domination. It was part of the move, and completely unrelated to the music.Yes, I remember that too! There was always a chorus of stamps during the class - and then one or two rogue 'lone' stamps a beat or two after everyone else. At least it raised a laugh, if nothing else.

Ah, heady days, they were...

Lou
8th-May-2006, 10:19 AM
Somewhere, in the not too distant past, the Hatchback was a beginner move.

Pah! I come across a lot of Ceroc®™ Beginner men who lead the Hatchback.

Of course, for some reason, they seem very puzzled when I actually follow what they led. :whistle:

ducasi
8th-May-2006, 10:57 AM
Amazing - over 20 posts now, and no-one has suggested stamping this practice out, or putting their foot down.
Maybe for fear of stepping on someone's toes?

Whitebeard
8th-May-2006, 11:29 AM
Pah! I come across a lot of Ceroc®™ Beginner men who lead the Hatchback.


Three year beginners like me I guess ;-)




Of course, for some reason, they seem very puzzled when I actually follow what they led. :whistle:

Perhaps they thought they were doing the yoyo ;-)

Seriously, a lot of ladies are remarkably reluctant to relax the hand-hold and go into the spin/turn, despite my attempts to present a flat hand and sweeping my right arm down toward hip level. But there are exceptions and I really like the move with a good follower where I can think (that's it, just think) of adding a little latinesque style.

CJ
8th-May-2006, 11:35 AM
I stamp.

Not often, but once in a while the music dictates that the right thing to do at the right time is a stamp. And so I do it...

Generally speaking, it's less than once an evening, but at the right point of the right song, which isn't necessarily a break, I think it can really add something.

As for the argument about only attention seekers using stamps: I would agree that this is not an uncommon occurence. However, some would say that some dancers only use air steps or drops to get attention. There are some that do, and some that use these moves for genuine musical reasons. The two can exist and both be present in the same dance hall. The same is for stampers: there isd a time and place and some people feel musically justified in using them.

Flame away...:D

CJ
8th-May-2006, 11:36 AM
Maybe for fear of stepping on someone's toes?

or making waves??

Nick M
8th-May-2006, 11:39 AM
adding a little latinesque style.

Adding latin style to the hatchback - if only I could. My lambada hatchbacks come out more like lada hatchbacks

MartinHarper
8th-May-2006, 02:44 PM
It's probably just stomping.

Stompin' at the Ceroc?

Gojive
8th-May-2006, 02:47 PM
Amazing - over 20 posts now, and no-one has suggested stamping this practice out, or putting their foot down.

Still quite a few posts with stamps on them though :waycool:

This reminds of the time when I first met the Queen....I didn't know whether to shake her hand, or lick the back of her head! :eek:

Anyhow, being serious for a sec...ok, that's enough.

CJ - If you stamp as little as 'Less than once an evening', doesn't that make it a tap? :yum:

Donna
8th-May-2006, 04:42 PM
I know this one guy (haven't seen him for a while now) who used to think it was cool to stamp all the time... not just on the breaks either! :what: He used to make everybody on the floor jump and swing their heads around! I thought one day he's going to give somebody a heart attack. I found it extremely annoying. We went to a freestyle night at Nantwich, and this guy was there! This bits funny.... he did his usual stamping again.. and ... :rofl: and a piece of wood flew up out of the dance floor, flipped a few times in the air and crashed back onto the dance floor! :rofl: oooh the tears were rolling down my face that night! You should have seen his face! He was still in his squatting position, in his shorts and boots, staring wide eyed at this plank of wood on the floor and everybody else around him froze too!! :rofl: I couldn't carry on dancing for laughing so much and had to leave the dance floor! :rofl: Mind you, he did live out in Australia for a while.. maybe he had jive lessons with the kangaroos or something!

Phil
9th-May-2006, 03:45 PM
Is this stamping thing common north of the border cos there's only one guy in this area who stamps his feet every now and then and the women avoid him like the plague, so beware if you're coming south!
Personally it gets on my nerves when I hear it happening and seems totally unneccessary.

ducasi
9th-May-2006, 04:58 PM
Is this stamping thing common north of the border ... No. :)

Donna
9th-May-2006, 06:29 PM
Is this stamping thing common north of the border cos there's only one guy in this area who stamps his feet every now and then and the women avoid him like the plague, so beware if you're coming south!
Personally it gets on my nerves when I hear it happening and seems totally unneccessary.


No there is two guys up here phil that stamp all the time... you know stamping trev? Dunno the other guys name. There is also a woman who keeps stamping a lot too.. her nickname? the stomping blond! :rofl:

Lindsay
9th-May-2006, 11:05 PM
ooooo

Stuart M
10th-May-2006, 12:52 PM
I stamp.

Not often, but once in a while the music dictates that the right thing to do at the right time is a stamp. And so I do it...

Generally speaking, it's less than once an evening, but at the right point of the right song, which isn't necessarily a break, I think it can really add something.

As for the argument about only attention seekers using stamps: I would agree that this is not an uncommon occurence. However, some would say that some dancers only use air steps or drops to get attention. There are some that do, and some that use these moves for genuine musical reasons. The two can exist and both be present in the same dance hall. The same is for stampers: there isd a time and place and some people feel musically justified in using them.

Flame away...:D
:yeah:

CJ and I have something in common.

But it's just the one thing. Relief all round then. :D

I stamp occasionally, and do a flick thing with my lower leg now and again, when the track has a latin flavour. Comes from some Spanish blood somewhere in my ancestry, I think. My sincere apologies to those who abhor such things.

Your wife
10th-May-2006, 01:47 PM
there aint nothing like dancing away at a freestyle and suddenly stamp you think a bombs gone off

LMC
11th-May-2006, 05:41 PM
Which is the right, I mean correct foot with which to stamp?

Donna
11th-May-2006, 05:42 PM
Which is the right, I mean correct foot with which to stamp?


:rofl: :respect:

Princess Fi
11th-May-2006, 05:43 PM
The one furthest away from your partner to prevent injury (I hope?)

ducasi
11th-May-2006, 10:25 PM
... stuff ...
She's alive!!! :clap:

Where you been hiding, and will we be seeing you tomorrow? :flower:

Phil
12th-May-2006, 11:34 AM
No there is two guys up here phil that stamp all the time... you know stamping trev? Dunno the other guys name. There is also a woman who keeps stamping a lot too.. her nickname? the stomping blond! :rofl:

Thanks for the info Donna, I'll give her a wide berth!

Donna
12th-May-2006, 11:40 AM
Thanks for the info Donna, I'll give her a wide berth!


:rofl: Imagine if she stamped on your feet with those 3 inch heels! :tears:

SteveK
29th-August-2007, 05:30 AM
I was dancing last night, and twice I got really annoyed with men doing really cr*p stamps in the middle of a dance. I hope I'm a fairly smooth leader, and I feel that stamping really stops the flow of the dance.

Two techniques I've considered for stopping other people stamping involve either treading hard on their feet (crude but effective), or kicking them on their shins (similarly effective).

I'm trying desperately to avoid resorting to physical violence, and would appreciate any effective techniques that anyone could suggest.

Many thanks in advance for your help :flower:

Caz
29th-August-2007, 07:45 AM
I have to say that if I normally see a guy stamping then I am like "***" but recently I had my opinion changed when dancing with a guy who was stamping away but who turned out to be a bl**dy good dancer :D

Terpsichorea
29th-August-2007, 07:47 AM
I find stamping a bit unsettling, in that it always makes me feel as if someone has just fallen over or summat like that, but other than that, I don't have a problem with it. If someone wants to stamp then that's their business.

johnnyman
29th-August-2007, 07:55 AM
It isn't just stamping. There is a guy I see often at London venues who punctuates his dancing and the music with the following holler.


"YEEAHHHHHHOOOOOOOO!!"

A fee years ago, I was taking line dance lessons and there was a professional dancer there having a good who punctuated the music with what reminded me of a high-pitched dog woof.

Dancing is about dancing, not vocals.

best
johnnyman

MartinHarper
29th-August-2007, 09:40 AM
Dancing is about dancing, not vocals.

True in European cultures. From what I've read, African cultures commonly have dancers who produce noise (with vocals, stamps, and such) and musicians who dance.

straycat
29th-August-2007, 11:56 AM
True in European cultures. From what I've read, African cultures commonly have dancers who produce noise (with vocals, stamps, and such) and musicians who dance.
:yeah:

I am told, by my partner who's more of an expert in these things, that there're cultures where there's no distinction between the words for 'music' and 'dance'

On a completely different note, and as (it seems) I missed this thread first time around - I remember (barely) when I started Ceroc (Southampton, very early 90's) - stamping was taught as a part of some moves. The one I chiefly remember was the arm jive - taught as: offer the hand, STAMP STAMP STAMP STAMP (on each of the 'jives')

We were encouraged to stamp as loudly as possible, to make as much noise as possible, and there were enough people to make a lot of noise indeed. The saddest thing about it was that the venue was a hotel, and their restaurant was directly under the dancefloor. The diners did not like the noise (oddly enough) - there were complaints - and ultimately, the hotel decided enough was enough, and a new venue had to be found on very short notice...

Shame - because it was a lovely venue.

Never saw the arm-jive taught in that manner again. Funny that..... :whistle:

TA Guy
29th-August-2007, 05:15 PM
On a completely different note, and as (it seems) I missed this thread first time around - I remember (barely) when I started Ceroc (Southampton, very early 90's) - stamping was taught as a part of some moves. The one I chiefly remember was the arm jive - taught as: offer the hand, STAMP STAMP STAMP STAMP (on each of the 'jives')

We were encouraged to stamp as loudly as possible, to make as much noise as possible, and there were enough people to make a lot of noise indeed. The saddest thing about it was that the venue was a hotel, and their restaurant was directly under the dancefloor. The diners did not like the noise (oddly enough) - there were complaints - and ultimately, the hotel decided enough was enough, and a new venue had to be found on very short notice...

Shame - because it was a lovely venue.

Never saw the arm-jive taught in that manner again. Funny that..... :whistle:

LOL. That's quite funny. I wonder who was the teacher, can you remember ? If they are still around, I could get some snigger points out of that :)

The wheel turns anyway, there's only one guy that stamps at MoJive now (that I know of). He's well known, and he turned up at one of the first nights at the new venue with his blakey strengthened stamping shoes. I reckon it was about 0.000000025 nanoseconds between the first stamp and the boss sprinting forward in defense of his expensive brand new dance floor. Funnily enough, the guy ain't been back.

fletch
29th-August-2007, 05:24 PM
Stamping was been taught at the Utopia lesson in Evesham a couple of months ago :eek:

OXO'S was in the class and turned aroud and looked at me and mouthed 'i'm not doing it Fletch honest' :rofl:


:(

whats all that about :confused:

Lee Bartholomew
30th-August-2007, 09:49 AM
When "Is this the way to Amarillo" was being constanly played, you could always guarantee at least 10 people would stamp on the hand clap bits.

There was one bloke who dances around Croydon and Bromley who randomly Stomps. No timing, not in breaks, just stomps. I think he does it because he thinks its funny :confused: as he always has a grin on his face when he does it.

All it seemed to do is put all the dancers off from dancing with or near him and earn him the nickname of Mr Stompy Stomp.

David Bailey
30th-August-2007, 10:21 AM
Stamping was been taught at the Utopia lesson in Evesham a couple of months ago
Taught? How difficult is it? I mean, we're not exactly talking "Stomp" here are we?

Beowulf
30th-August-2007, 11:02 AM
a whole dancefloor stamping at the same time... must be funny :rofl:

Like Bill Bailey's Single Zen clap of acceptance.. ? :rofl:


earned him the nickname of Mr Stompy Stomp.

Wow that took a lot of thought? Mr Stompy Stomp and his friends Mr Spinny Spin , Mrs Hotty Hotshot and
Mr Hasn't-got-a-major-distinguishing-dance-idiosyncrasy- but-we'll-give-him-a-derogatory-nickname-anyway :D:wink:


I've seen people stomping a few times. Depending on the track it's ok.. it's not something I would do, but if it fits the music then it's fine.. Stamping or stomping (or Clomping, thumping, Banging et al) to excess would be annoying though!

David Bailey
30th-August-2007, 12:10 PM
I've seen people stomping a few times. Depending on the track it's ok.. it's not something I would do, but if it fits the music then it's fine..
I'm not a big fan - it's never seemed necessary to me to stamp my feet or yell "Yeee-haw" or whatever. And it's distracting to the other couples on the dance floor.

Double Trouble
30th-August-2007, 12:14 PM
And it's distracting to the other couples on the dance floor.

:yeah:When ever anyone stamps like that, I want to turn round and see some numpty sprawled on the floor after attempting an ariel, so I can laugh at them, not a 'stamper' giving large and with a 'look at me' expression.

Lory
30th-August-2007, 12:41 PM
OK, I confess!.....

There's a certain Spanish-y track that's often played on the circuit and lends itself to a little Flamenco stamping in a couple of places..

So I stamp and thoroughly enjoy it ;)- yes really! :D :D

I hear the gasps of horror already! :rofl:

Jamie
30th-August-2007, 12:54 PM
Go Lory!! Tell me which song so I can join in! :D

Lory
30th-August-2007, 01:02 PM
Go Lory!! Tell me which song so I can join in! :D

Flamenco by Alex Fox

Yeah common Jamie! We can be shunned together! :wink::D

Jamie
30th-August-2007, 01:04 PM
Flamenco by Alex Fox

Yeah common Jamie! We can be shunned together! :wink::D

Woo! We can do that tongue drilling noise thing that the flamenco dancers do too! Lets cause even more fuss! :wink:

Anyone else joining in shun-club?

Zuhal
30th-August-2007, 01:13 PM
There was one bloke who dances around Croydon and Bromley who randomly Stomps. No timing, not in breaks, just stomps. I think he does it because he thinks its funny :confused: as he always has a grin on his face when he does it.

All it seemed to do is put all the dancers off from dancing with or near him and earn him the nickname of Mr Stompy Stomp.

Actually the locals call him "Thumper":wink:
and when he dances with Bambi (all arms and legs) there isn't a dry eye in the house.:D

Zuhal

Tiggerbabe
30th-August-2007, 01:31 PM
I hear the gasps of horror already! :rofl:
Great track! And it does, and I've been known to join in :rofl:

Mind you, that track just reminds me of the FEDS tour of Scotland :clap:

tsh
30th-August-2007, 01:55 PM
The worst sort of stamping is when your follower wanders so far out of range of your gentle flowing lead that the only option for a clean recovery is to let her spin, and then SHE stamps, because it's part of her 'spin with style' move. I don't always notice though, because i've usually switched to passive leading mode by then anyway - just counting the bounces till the end of the track, or a long enough break to pretend I think it's the end :devil:

Sean