Poll - age of Ceroc Goers

[Ghost]

Ok how old are you - it's anonymous, but you can post below your age if you're feeling brave :whistle:

Be Well,
Christopher

[Ghost]

Opps, hit the wrong button :blush:

Could some nice Moderator add a poll to the top for me? :flower:

Thanks
Christopher

[Little Em]

23.....

[jacksondonut]

Hi Em.. sometimes I feel your age... great when it happens... today feeling 93... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :yeah:

Tomorrow hope to be feeling somethin' else :eek:

:cheers:

[Little Em]

Jan,


age is only a number i say!

i know a lot of people... ok, in fact most people that beat me on weekenders! :eek:
when i say this, i mean, how late we stay out!! sometimes i only make it until 2 ish!!

when i know lots of people older than me that stay out and have far more stamina!! :wink:

on the dance floor of course!

come on.... anybody else willing to post how old they are.....

(Di, you are NOT 21!):rofl:

[Yliander]

33 here - although due to lack of sleep and fabulous company am feeling about 133

[Northants Girly]

29 . . . .

[Dave T]

Right on the margin of one of the brackets, as for which one...well born in a bad year, especially this side of the border :rofl:

It's only a number, and most people say I don't act my age anyway!


Dave

[djtrev]

65 The legs start to feel the strain a bit more these days.PerhapsI should pace myself a bit better.

[stewart38]

41 (just ! ish) right knee will probably give me grief in 5 years time ill let you know !

[isa]

43 but still out-danced an 18 year old Ceroc teacher last summer...

[Gojive]

I'm just two twenties and three :D

[jive_me]

18 :flower:

[isa]

Ok how old are you - it's anonymous, but you can post below your age if you're feeling brave :whistle:

Be Well,
Christopher
And how about YOU Ghost?

[BobbyA]

I'm 24 :) yey me. heheh

[Tazmanian Devil]

26 going on 19 :D :D

[jammy]

19:D sometimes i feel the youngest
depends where i am tho!

[TheTramp]

26 going on 19 :D :D

Does the 19 year old have any choice in the matter? :rolleyes:

[Tazmanian Devil]

Does the 19 year old have any choice in the matter? :rolleyes:
Nope :D

[under par]

I'm just two twenties and three :D

I'm two fifteens, a ten and a three.:cheers:

[under par]

19:D sometimes i feel the youngest
depends where i am tho!

Avoid kindergarden at all costs

[under par]

I must give a POLL STARTER a hard time cos I haven't done it before.

Surely the poll should cover leroc too!

Where's the option for I'm a flowerpot and don't get any older?




I feel so much better for doing that!:cheers:

[Donna]

And how about YOU Ghost?


He's 34. (i think?)

I'm 23... going on 24 in 35 days and counting.... :rolleyes: :eek:

[under par]

He's 34. (i think?)

I'm 23... going on 24 in 35 days and counting.... :rolleyes: :eek:
counting down .... I believe:wink:

[Jive Brummie]

29 . . . .

snap.

[wayaay bird]

19 :grin:

[Ghost]

He's 34. (i think?)

*cough*Not quite (http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/showpost.php?p=165678&postcount=41)*cough

Gadget's (http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/member.php?u=225) getting on a bit though :devil:

Be Well,
Christopher

[bettyboop]

and most people say I don't act my age anyway!


Dave

Yep - I can vouch for that ! :rofl: :hug:

[Gojive]

snap.

Yeah, that happend to me too! Must be cause I'm an old git :tears:

:na:

[Cruella]

My age is the meaning of life. :wink: (for all you Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy fans)
Although as i always say, you're only as old as the man you feel! :D

[ShinyWeeStar]

I'm 22. :nice:

[Paddy1961]

Though I am 44, I like to think of being as old or young as the lady I am dancing with, who are in the main quite a cheeky lot in the best possible taste of course.

[Tessalicious]

...quite a cheeky lot in the best possible taste of course.Ah, you haven't danced with me, Zebra Woman, Cruella, Miss Conduct or Tazmanian Devil yet, then?

...best possible taste indeed... :(

:devil:

Oh, and I'm 21, but you knew that, it's in my profile. Although I can pretend I'm 30 if it makes all you old people feel better, or 15 if that'll make you a better feel...

[jacksondonut]

Jan,
age is only a number i say!
i know a lot of people... ok, in fact most people that beat me on weekenders! :eek:
when i say this, i mean, how late we stay out!! sometimes i only make it until 2 ish!!
when i know lots of people older than me that stay out and have far more stamina!! :wink:
on the dance floor of course!

come on.... anybody else willing to post how old they are.....

(Di, you are NOT 21!):rofl:

Quite true of course Em! Am regaining my health slowly and know that I will be feeling a spring chicken in the very near future.....:eek: :eek: :rofl:

At 44, I feel like life has just begun...:clap: :clap: :yeah:

(*when I am not suffering from some nasty old virus of course...*)

and when the mood is right, I can hang out late with the best of 'em too!!:worthy:

:cheers:

[Paddy1961]

Ah, you haven't danced with me, Zebra Woman, Cruella, Miss Conduct or Tazmanian Devil yet, then?

...best possible taste indeed... :(

:devil:

Oh, and I'm 21, but you knew that, it's in my profile. Although I can pretend I'm 30 if it makes all you old people feel better, or 15 if that'll make you a better feel...
Promises, promises, a dominant woman, now where have I would I be lead.

[drathzel]

Does the 19 year old have any choice in the matter? :rolleyes:

From what i have heard:whistle:

I'm 22:flower:

[Stuart]

Over 21, for the second time!

[Raphael]

Well just to add my tuppence worth, I am 10 plus 20 plus 10 plus 7 divided by 2 going on 19, in the best possible taste.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

[Dizzy]

I'm 26 and I suddenly feel quite old reading this thread :blush:

[CJ]

I'm 26 and I suddenly feel quite old reading this thread :blush:

You could feel me: I'm even older!!:sick:

[bobgadjet]

Well just to add my tuppence worth, I am 10 plus 20 plus 10 plus 7 divided by 2 going on 19, in the best possible taste.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
yeah right, and the rest :rofl:
I'm not so concerned about NOW, but NEXT year....cos I cross to another bracket. :sick:

Never mind, they say it's mind over matter, so it don't matter.

I just want to be a teenager when I grow up :flower:

[Minnie M]

.........Never mind, they say it's mind over matter, so it don't matter.......
check out my signature :whistle:

[Top Bird]

I'm older than I would like to be, :sad: but hey, living through all those years has made me the person I am now - lovable :love: adorable :nice: a great dancer, sexy :drool: , intelligent :waycool: and good fun :rofl: - also retaining my wonderful looks and size 10 body :yum: , so being 58 isn't all bad.:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Shaz]

I'm older than I would like to be, :sad: but hey, living through all those years has made me the person I am now - lovable :love: adorable :nice: a great dancer, sexy :drool: , intelligent :waycool: and good fun :rofl: - also retaining my wonderful looks and size 10 body :yum: , so being 58 isn't all bad.:clap: :clap: :clap:
and so modest :whistle: me thinks you may possibly be an "alter ego" :whistle:

[Top Bird]

That's the other thing about maturity, it allows you to become very positive about yourself

[Jazz_Shoes (Ash)]

18... :nice:

[Minnie M]

That's the other thing about maturity, it allows you to become very positive about yourself
:confused: really

I'm only old on the outside :whistle:

[Frankie_4711]

36 and not ashamed to admit it, but I still feel about 18 (apart from not being able to stay up late too often!:sad: )

[Princess Fi]

36 and not ashamed to admit it, but I still feel about 18 (apart from not being able to stay up late too often!:sad: )

Nah, I don't think that so much a disadvantage of getting older - you just have more sense than to try and stay out til 4:30 in the morning and then go into work for 7:30

(the only thing I was running on was caffeine and hope...)

[TheTramp]

Nah, I don't think that so much a disadvantage of getting older - you just have more sense than to try and stay out til 4:30 in the morning and then go into work for 7:30

(the only thing I was running on was caffeine and hope...)

That may be true of some (older) people!! :rolleyes:

[djtrev]

My age is the meaning of life. :wink: (for all you Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy fans)
Although as i always say, you're only as old as the man you feel! :D

Thats all very well Cruella but Julie is 24 years younger than me!!

[Minnie M]

36 and not ashamed to admit it, but I still feel about 18 (apart from not being able to stay up late too often! )
:flower: what will you be like at my age :rolleyes:

Nah, I don't think that so much a disadvantage of getting older - you just have more sense than to try and stay out til 4:30 in the morning and then go into work for 7:30 (the only thing I was running on was caffeine and hope...)
:whistle: :whistle:

That may be true of some (older) people!!
:blush:

[Ghost]

Pity you can't vote more than once, but I think Cruella has a couple of 0-10 year-old Cerocers :worthy:

(I can remember someone saying about their kids being interested recently, but I'm a bit hazy who)

Take care,
Christopher

[Yogi_Bear]

the number of Heinz varieties.....

[Jazz_Shoes (Ash)]

Who else is 10 to 20 and voted in the poll? I know a few of the "young" folk on the forum, but i'm sure there is mroe than me + 3 in that age group?

[Gadget]

the number of Heinz varieties.....
Our corporate history tells us that in 1896, Henry John Heinz noticed an advertisement for "21 styles of shoes." He decided that his own products were not styles, but varieties. Although there were many more than 57 foods in production at the time, because the numbers "5" and "7" held a special significance for him and his wife, he adopted the slogan "57 Varieties."

So, the number 57 isn't related to the number of products offered by Heinz. It is interesting to note, however, that the company currently sells 5,700 varieties in 200 countries and territories.

5700!! boy, you age well! :what:

[jive_me]

Who else is 10 to 20 and voted in the poll? I know a few of the "young" folk on the forum, but i'm sure there is mroe than me + 3 in that age group?

Ooo, me...me...*sticks hand in air in a wildly childish manner*

[Jazz_Shoes (Ash)]

Ooo, me...me...*sticks hand in air in a wildly childish manner*
Hi *waves back equally childishly just for the fun of it* Well let's see, that's you and me + I can think of three more, but think there is someone I am forgetting :confused:

[Yogi_Bear]

Our corporate history tells us that in 1896, Henry John Heinz noticed an advertisement for "21 styles of shoes." He decided that his own products were not styles, but varieties. Although there were many more than 57 foods in production at the time, because the numbers "5" and "7" held a special significance for him and his wife, he adopted the slogan "57 Varieties."

So, the number 57 isn't related to the number of products offered by Heinz. It is interesting to note, however, that the company currently sells 5,700 varieties in 200 countries and territories.

5700!! boy, you age well! :what:
I am strictly slogan-based, and can remember reading the '57 varieties' lebels on tins back in 1957.....

[Stuart M]

I'd have responded on this poll, but I've aged rapidly recently...

[janey]

All the threes..... (And thats 33 not 333!) :D

[Anna]

SIXTEEN and proud of it!! :waycool:

Turning 17 this yr.. woohoo.. :D

[Ghost]

SIXTEEN and proud of it!! :waycool:

Turning 17 this yr.. woohoo.. :D
You've still got a loooooooooooooong way to go yet though. There's 3 votes for 90+ at the moment :worthy:

Dance in beauty,
Christopher

[Tiggerbabe]

I've always fancied getting a Granny Weatherwax t-shirt

"I aintent dead"

[Ghost]

I've always fancied getting a Granny Weatherwax t-shirt

"I aintent dead"
Well you've certainly got the outfit (http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/member.php?u=5) :worthy:

Blessed be,
Christopher

[Tiggerbabe]

Well you've certainly got the outfit (http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/member.php?u=5) :worthy:

Thanks for the heads up on the hat :hug:

[linny lou!]

18 :innocent:

[Chicklet]

I've always fancied getting a Granny Weatherwax t-shirt

"I aintent dead"
I know I'm pathetically undown with the kids :blush:
But She-J, what the DJ are you on about?????????
Who is Granny Weatherwax and what does her slogan translate to??

29 forever

[Ghost]

I know I'm pathetically undown with the kids :blush:
But She-J, what the DJ are you on about?????????
Who is Granny Weatherwax and what does her slogan translate to??

29 forever
She's a witch in the Terry Pratchet series of books about Discworld (See Tiggerbabe's photo under member's list). She occassionally possesses animals, but being fairly old appears to be dead when she does so. To stop people burying her when she's possessing animals, she wears the sign "I aintent dead".

Maybe Tiggerbabe is possessing Ceroc dancers :whistle:

Strangely I can't find a link to an official "I aintent dead" t-shirt, but there's plenty of shops that'll happilly mock one up for you.

Take care,
Christopher

[Frankie_4711]

~SNIP~See Tiggerbabe's photo under member's list~SNIP~

Only she's much better looking that Granny W!

[Gojive]

OK, Why is my age group being singled out for special treatment? :tears:

(See poll list :wink: )

[Gojive]

OK, Why is my age group being singled out for special treatment? :tears:

(See poll list :wink: )

Oh B*gger! Just realised it probably just indicates which one I voted in? :blush: :blush:

[Daisy Chain]

Oh B*gger! Just realised it probably just indicates which one I voted in? :blush: :blush:


Don't worry, dear. It's just showing you where you placed your vote (in case you forget I suppose). The rest of the forum can't see it.

BTW, we're in the same group. Right next to one another I'd say...

Daisy

(A Clever Old Flower)

[Gojive]

Don't worry, dear. It's just showing you where you placed your vote (in case you forget I suppose). The rest of the forum can't see it.

BTW, we're in the same group. Right next to one another I'd say...

Daisy

(A Clever Old Flower)

:D

The only 'right next to each other' I'd like right now, is on the dance floor!.....how much longer do I have to wait get a zimmer boogie? :wink:

[cheeks]

Does the 19 year old have any choice in the matter? :rolleyes:


oh yes always :drool: :whistle:


oops and I'm 34 don't feel it most of the time.....

[David Franklin]

She's a witch in the Terry Pratchet series of books about Discworld (See Tiggerbabe's photo under member's list). She occassionally possesses animals, but being fairly old appears to be dead when she does so. To stop people burying her when she's possessing animals, she wears the sign "I aintent dead".Er, no. Even Granny Weatherwax's spelling isn't that eccentric. The phrase you are searching for is "I aten't dead".

[Ghost]

Er, no. Even Granny Weatherwax's spelling isn't that eccentric. The phrase you are searching for is "I aten't dead".
:blush: She does have quite a strong accent though, it's a bit hard to understand at times ( I copied and pasted too :tears: )

Be Well,
Christopher

[Dreamer]

30

People on the cusp of 2 decades, did you go for the higher or lower age group?

I was tempted to round down, but reality compelled me not to, since I wouldn't be seeing that decade again :tears: :tears: :tears:

[Jazz_Shoes (Ash)]

I was just thinkin, i'm either mistaken for 16 or up to around 22 :confused: wonder why there is such a big gap

[Rebecca]

30

People on the cusp of 2 decades, did you go for the higher or lower age group?

I was tempted to round down, but reality compelled me not to, since I wouldn't be seeing that decade again :tears: :tears: :tears:

I thought about this too. I'm still 29 until later in the year but somehow 20-30 doesn't describe where I consider myself in life. 30-40 though scares me a little - tick, tock, tick, tock. . . . :confused:

[Genie]

I'm 22, turning 23 on Sunday.

And my man will officially be my toy boy from Sunday - for about three months, when he'll turn 23 as well :(

It'll be a good three months :p

[cms]

im 23 - getting old now! :grin: or thats what i say to wind up my 31 year old boyfriend!

to those of you still dancing at 90+ congratulations! :respect:

i hope im still going strong at that age!

[mrs_warwick]

She's a witch in the Terry Pratchet series of books about Discworld (See Tiggerbabe's photo under member's list). She occassionally possesses animals, but being fairly old appears to be dead when she does so. To stop people burying her when she's possessing animals, she wears the sign "I aintent dead".

Maybe Tiggerbabe is possessing Ceroc dancers :whistle:

Strangely I can't find a link to an official "I aintent dead" t-shirt, but there's plenty of shops that'll happilly mock one up for you.



I understand that Stephen 'CMOT' Briggs has looked into doing them but there has been an issue with the size range and style (you'll have to check the alt.fan.pratchett archives on google groups). But there is a badge
go to http://www.cmotdibbler.com/cmot_Badge.html and scroll down a bit.

[LMC]

I wasn't sure whether to go for calendar age, physical age or mental age. So I went for the youngest.

[thewacko]

:respect: 48 and going strong, unless you count me dodgy knee, lack of hair and constant sitting down for three tracks whilst recovering from the 1 slow track I have just danced to:whistle:

[Beowulf]

36 last April

[LizzyL]

OK so...purely hypothetically...... which box would you tick if you fell into 2 categories such as 20-30 and 30-40? http://bestsmileys.com/lol/16.gif

[Twirly]

I went for the one that is going to apply for the longest... the upper age bracket sadly :tears:

[Clueless]

I'm one of the youngsters and I'm 22, going on 15 for some reason I dont even act 22 and I'm still jarred (asked) for ID. I even went to buy Ciggies for my bro casue he was stuck in traffic and I got them and got ID'd whilst I was there. :sick: oh well :nice:

[Twirly]

I'm one of the youngsters and I'm 22, going on 15 for some reason I dont even act 22 and I'm still jarred (asked) for ID. I even went to buy Ciggies for my bro casue he was stuck in traffic and I got them and got ID'd whilst I was there. :sick: oh well :nice:

You'll be thankful for that (being young looking) in about 20 years time! :wink:

[Dazzler]

23 here ... hopefully that means i have many years of dancing left in me :clap:

[dee]

I feel really old after reading this thread :sick:

[Barry Shnikov]

OK so...purely hypothetically...... which box would you tick if you fell into 2 categories such as 20-30 and 30-40? http://bestsmileys.com/lol/16.gif

you could try ticking the 50 - 70 category...

[dinky]

I feel really old after reading this thread :sick:


Me too!!!! I'm 46 for a few more months. :sad:

[Minnie M]

I'm one of the youngsters and I'm 22, going on 15 for some reason I dont even act 22 .........
I have the same problem :innocent: (well the "2" bit is right:whistle: )

[Dazzler]

Ifeel like i am 23 goin on 73 sometimes...especially when i start to complain about those young 'uns hangin round shop fronts in thier hoodie tops and smokin the wacky backy!...:rofl:

Now where did i put my slippers a re-run of Dads Army is comin on :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Beowulf]

ah to be 23 again... :(

Young single 20 somethings
older loved up 30/40 somethings
and older single 50+ somethings.

I'm in the wrong age group to be a single ;)

[pmjd]

ah to be 23 again... :(

Young single 20 somethings
older loved up 30/40 somethings
and older single 50+ somethings.

I'm in the wrong age group to be a single ;)

I'm just hanging in there (29), so by this table I'll have someone by next year:rolleyes:

[pmjd]

Now where did i put my slippers a re-run of Dads Army is comin on :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If you can remember Dad's Army is coming on you can't be that old yet:rofl:

[jivebunny]

soon to be entering into my mid to late 20's, leaving the mid to early 20's behind

but they do say your as young as the person you feel!!! :wink:

[TurboTomato]

I'm just hanging in there (29), so by this table I'll have someone by next year:rolleyes:

I'm close behind you at 28!

[Dynamo]

I have the same problem :innocent: (well the "2" bit is right:whistle: )

That must be the first digit 2, because we all love the way you dance. :respect:

Me i am a mathematician of sorts, so i take the mean of my physical and mental ages, that way i have covered the Q in whatever sense it was ment. So my maths places me just short of 30 this comming monday. :wink:

Dynamo

[Dynamo]

Sorry guys :blush: too slow at typing

maybe i am older than i think! :rolleyes:

Poll may have a slight bias, as most venues i know have a typical older age range, so maybe the forum captures the younger techie jiver who can use the internet. :really:

some very notable exceptions noted, who keep us all informed and on our toes.:respect: :respect:

D

[Tazmanian Devil]

I'm just hanging in there (29), so by this table I'll have someone by next year:rolleyes:

:yum:

Opps Shall I go away till next year then :awe:

[pmjd]

:yum:

Opps Shall I go away till next year then :awe:

Nah, I'm just older than I thought:wink: Besides your not coming up here till next year anyway:awe:

(there are buckets available should anyone need:na:)

[Tazmanian Devil]

Nah, I'm just older than I thought:wink: Besides your not coming up here till next year anyway:awe:

(there are buckets available should anyone need:na:)

Ahh but you will be here in just over 2 weeks which means you will still be 29 :awe:

(buckets £1) :rofl:

[pmjd]

Ahh but you will be here in just over 2 weeks which means you will still be 29 :awe:

(buckets £1) :rofl:

Either: I got lucky or I'm the exception that proves the rule:na:

[TheTramp]

(buckets £1) :rofl:

I'll take 2 please :flower:

[Tazmanian Devil]

Either: I got lucky or I'm the exception that proves the rule:na:
:love: I will stay then :awe:

I'll take 2 please :flower:

Here you go babes.

*passes 2 buckets to Trampy*

[stewart38]

Sorry guys :blush: too slow at typing

maybe i am older than i think! :rolleyes:

Poll may have a slight bias, as most venues i know have a typical older age range, so maybe the forum captures the younger techie jiver who can use the internet. :really:

some very notable exceptions noted, who keep us all informed and on our toes.:respect: :respect:

D

would suggest the average forumite is younger then the average cerocer/jiver

[detomo]

28 - and have to agree with others about poll being bias by age of forum goers :)

[whitetiger1518]

28 but feeling 109 this week

:eek:

Whitetiger

[David Bailey]

28 - and have to agree with others about poll being bias by age of forum goers :)
Yeah - but, blimey, 276 voters, that's actually a pretty good sample size for us lot. And it's probably more data than Ceroc HQ has :rofl:

Definitely confirms the Ceroc is for "30s-40s" idea, even discounting other factors.

[Tessalicious]

Definitely confirms the Ceroc is for "30s-40s" idea, even discounting other factors.No, it confirms that Ceroc is for everybody, considering that there are people in every age group (discounting the very extremes such as under 10s and over 80s, as I think that was DS extracting the Michael), and a reasonably even spread in the 20-50 groups.

But then, they're statistics - they'll confirm anything anyone wants them to.

[Jhutch]

I am 28 as well:sick: seems to be a popular number

[Trouble]

im 40 in real years.
im 16 in my heart
but when my body starts dancing
where do i start.

my legs start the movement
my ass follows behind
im lead around the dance floor
my arms dont seem to mind

i get that boogy feeling
a yearning to groove that song
you find a fantastic dancer
the song dont last that long

but overall i would say
age is mind over matter
and when im older still maybe 20 more years
i will still dance even if it just for a natter.

:flower: :flower: an ode from me to you :yum: :D

[fletch]

I am 28 as well:sick: seems to be a popular number

I have been 28 for 16 years :yeah:

[Gav]

(discounting the very extremes such as under 10s and over 80s, as I think that was DS extracting the Michael)

I dunno, my 7 year old daughter enjoys it! Maybe Ceroc should think about getting them hooked earlier?

[Jamie]

Being 20, am I in the 10-20 range or 20-30? lol

[Ghost]

Being 20, am I in the 10-20 range or 20-30? lol

20-30 as presumably you're 20 and x days / months now :wink:

(Be warned mathematicians lurk waiting to pounce - they may look harmless, but.......:devil: )

[Shodan]

I'm only 15 at the moment.

[Wuzzle]

28 years young and counting :grin:

[Dai]

Only 25, seems i fall beneath the average of 28, oh well, don't hold it against me!!!!!!!!!!

[fletch]

don't hold it against me!!!!!!!!!!

sorry what didn't you wan't held against you :confused:


:wink: :rofl:

[Dai]

Fletch honey - you can hold anything you like against me!!!!! :really:

[Mr Cool]

My problem is I do get fed up with all the older ladies I have to dance with.:rofl: Then I guess my age is against me thats the problem of being 6 and 1/2 :wink:
:waycool: :waycool: :waycool: :waycool:
:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

[Dai]

very impressed you can dance with these older ladies at 6 1/2!!! do you wear stillts - however would you manage over the head moves!!!:rofl:

[Double Trouble]

I'm 35.

Please all feel free to faint. I know its hard to believe I am that old.

OI......I SAID FAINT.....! :tears:

[DJ Andy]

I'm 35.



Don't stress.
You look much younger in your profile photo....honest :wink:

[Double Trouble]

Don't stress.
You look much younger in your profile photo....honest :wink:

Thanks hun. :love: Dont tell anyone but that photo was taken 2 years ago.

[Gav]

Don't stress.
You look much younger in your profile photo....honest :wink:


Thanks hun. :love: Dont tell anyone but that photo was taken 2 years ago.

:yeah: You should see the wrinkles and grey hair now!

[Beowulf]

ah to be 23 again... :(

Young single 20 somethings
older loved up 30/40 somethings
and older single 50+ somethings.

I'm in the wrong age group to be a single ;)

Hmm.. dragging up an old post of mine.. am still 36, but at least now I'm in the correct age group NOT to be single ;)

[Mezzosoprano]

Sliding disgracefully into 37 this April.... well, as disgracefully as I can manage:blush: . I reckon it's the best way to age.... seem to remember there being a great poem about being older and wearing purple?!

[Mythical]

I'm 24....under the average and probably the youngest I've seen at my venue, except for one I'm not sure of!

[the whale]

I'm 43. And it's true - it's much easier to learn things when your younger!!!

[Blind_Dynamo]

I'm 40 and it's true life does begin at 40. I have only been dancing 6 months and started after my 40th birthday

[Degodier]

seem to remember there being a great poem about being older and wearing purple?!

Warning

When I am an old woman I shall wear purple
With a red hat which doesn't go, and doesn't suit me.
And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves
And satin sandals, and say we've no money for butter.
I shall sit down on the pavement when I'm tired
And gobble up samples in shops and press alarm bells
And run my stick along the public railings
And make up for the sobriety of my youth.
I shall go out in my slippers in the rain
And pick the flowers in other people's gardens
And learn to spit.

You can wear terrible shirts and grow more fat
And eat three pounds of sausages in a go
Or only bread and pickle for a week
And hoard pens and pencils and beermats and things in boxes.

But now we must have clothes that keep us dry
And pay our rent and not swear in the street
And set a good example for the children.
We must have friends to dinner and read the papers.

But maybe I ought to practise a little now?
So people who know me are not too shocked and surprised
When suddenly I am old, and start to wear purple.



Jenny Joseph


Great isn't it? :nice:

[Astro]

Yeah great poem Degodier - but don't wait till you are old to enjoy yourself:devil:

There are three things a lady never reveals to a man -
1. her age
2. her weight
3. how many lovers she has had.:wink:

[Tortoise]

Yeah great poem Degodier - but don't wait till you are old to enjoy yourself:devil:

There are three things a lady never reveals to a man -
1. her age
2. her weight
3. how many lovers she has had.:wink:

Have to agree with that !! :nice:

[Double Trouble]

Yeah great poem Degodier - but don't wait till you are old to enjoy yourself:devil:

There are three things a lady never reveals to a man -
1. her age
2. her weight
3. how many lovers she has had.:wink:

I also find it polite to ask before you sit on someones face. I am a lady you know. :rofl: :devil: :rofl:

[Gav]

I also find it polite to ask before you sit on someones face. I am a lady you know. :rofl: :devil: :rofl:

I guess our relationship must be beyond such pleasantries then. :rolleyes: :sick: :yum:

[nebula]

I am 34, but keep being told that I don't look my age...

[Lee Bartholomew]

im only 18 yet get mistaken for a 28 year old. :tears:

[Jamie]

im only 18 yet get mistaken for a 28 year old. :tears:

No idea why... :rolleyes:


:whistle:

[Gav]

im only 18 yet get mistaken for a 28 year old. :tears:

A 28 year old that's had an especially tough life? :whistle:

[nebula]

im only 18 yet get mistaken for a 28 year old. :tears:
There used to be a guy going to Thetford with Foot-loose, and he was exactly the same - when he told me he was only 18, I honestly thought he was joking - he did look 28! :what:

[philsmove]

Maybe we need some new polls
How old - do you look / feel / think you are / would like to be

[Fruity Oranges]

I turned 36 in May. Had fantastic birthday parties for the past 3 years - dancers only. You don't dance - you don't come... the family didn't like it too much the first year, so I didn't tell them after that. :blush:

[Rogboy]

I am 37, which is uncanny as it's my IQ as well....:what:

[Mini Mac]

i am proably the youngest on the forum. :really: 15 years old but i look about 12 :tears:

[Mac]

i am proably the youngest on the forum. :really: 15 years old but i look about 12 :tears:


and behave about 4 !:rolleyes:

JUST KIDDING :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

lOVE YOU REALLY :flower: :flower: :flower:
lOVE DAD xx:love:

[Clueless]

I'm 23 and still getting ID'd for drink...love looking young :D

[sway]

26 and loving it

[Freddie_C]

I'm now 19 and get ID'd for drink and stuff :(

I think I look older :(

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3079/22092006355mx4.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=22092006355mx4.jpg)

Maybe not :sad:

[Double Trouble]

I think I look older

:rofl: Sorry Freddie...you look about 15.:rofl:

Oh well...when you are an old git like me, you will look much younger...bonus..!:flower:

[Freddie_C]

:rofl: Sorry Freddie...you look about 15.:rofl:

Oh well...when you are an old git like me, you will look much younger...bonus..!:flower:

:tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears:

I don't.

:tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears:

I look atleast 17...plus, I think I took that pic a year ago, not big on pics of myself :what:

[Mac]

I'm two fifteens, a ten and a three.:cheers:

If you are saying you are 43 then I hate youi with a passion you can only dream of! ( Stud):rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Connie]

I am 29 for another few months before the dreaded 30 :really:

But as a consolation to myself I was ID in Marks and Spencer the other day bying a bottle of wine. That can only be a good thing :grin:

[Mel_and_tonic]

I'm 24 and in the last few weeks I keep getting ID'd! Whereas when I was 15/16/17 people always thought I was in my 20s!!! It seems that the older I get, the younger looking I become...:blush::yum:

[Clueless]

I got ID'd today and the person serving me asked for my licence, once she saw it looked, at me laughed and said "NO, WAY! You must have lied on you application form, cause you cant be 23 you look WAY younger"

this has to be a good thing, right?

[Let's Dance]

Im 18! I started when i was 17 though. :awe:. Although i must say, I am rather happy to be seeing other members my age :grin:... I wish i was in the older age group though :yum: Because that'd mean i'd know lots more moves & i'd have things pretty much matered lol.

[Crazy Shark]

Although i must say, I am rather happy to be seeing other members my age :grin:... I wish i was in the older age group though :yum: Because that'd mean i'd know lots more moves & i'd have things pretty much matered lol.

Same here i wish i was in a older group!! Im 19 and 20 in 3 months (i think i've said that before, can't remember but if i have sorry for repeating myself :blush:)

[Clueless]

Same here i wish i was in a older group!! Im 19 and 20 in 3 months (i think i've said that before, can't remember but if i have sorry for repeating myself :blush:)

I wish I am 23 and prob one of the youngest dancers on a Wednesday night.

As my Supervisor at Jimpin Jacks described me "One of the Ceroc babies!! But I have yet to see you in action"

Though I have been asked how old I am and someone didn't believe me. I mentioned about going to the gym and the girl said "Why do all 18 year olds go to the gym??"
"18?"
"Why how old are you?"
"23"
"**words that can't be typed here**"

[DQueen]

I started at 15 but now i am 16..i've been dancing 8 months.

[Genie]

I wish I am 23 and prob one of the youngest dancers on a Wednesday night.You're not that young babe. Some of us are only a year or two older. :na: And I've had people tell me I am younger (much younger :eek:) and some who think I am considerably older :(

Ya know, it's just jealousy. We still have decades of Ceroc-ing in us :wink:

[Crazy Shark]

Ya know, it's just jealousy. We still have decades of Ceroc-ing in us :wink:

Does that go for all young cerocers???? I'm probably one of the youngest :innocent:

[Astro]

Does that go for all young cerocers???? I'm probably one of the youngest :innocent:

Some of the teachers are younger than you, Crazy Shark.

[Tangled Feet]

Ok how old are you - it's anonymous, but you can post below your age if you're feeling brave :whistle:

Be Well,
ChristopherAm forty, loud and Proud mate!! Have been dancing since aged 34, wish it had been before that.:D

[fletch]

Does that go for all young cerocers???? I'm probably one of the youngest :innocent:


Joe's Fletcher is 10

:clap:



Some of the teachers are younger than you, Crazy Shark.


Joe has decided what he wan't to do for a living, and he has told me he is going to tell Mike Ellard next time he see's him :eek:

:worthy:

[Crazy Shark]

Im offically 20 whoo!!

Im sure most people knows how it feels to be 20 :grin:

I just like the fact im a bit older :rofl:

[dep]

I'm getting into the top 5% age group, but I have to admit to behaving like a teenager at times.

[Rich]

I'm 45, with the mental age and maturity of a thirteen year old.

For me, the age of my partner (victim) isn't an issue and I hope it isn't for them. As long as I have fun and, crucially, those I've danced with have fun too (though it's not always easy to tell).

Is my view too simplistic? Or is it different for people of different ages?

[John S]

I am Crazy Shark + Crazy Shark + Crazy Shark :sad:

[Crazy Shark]

I am Crazy Shark + Crazy Shark + Crazy Shark :sad:

Huh:confused: So you're 60? Seeing as im 20 and you're 20 x 3 according to you're post.

[dep]

Seeing as im 20 stop bragging, you're making me feel even older than my body tells me I am.

[dep]

I want to know where the 33% of under thirties have gone in Edinburgh.:devil:
What have I done to chase them away?:innocent::whistle:

[CheesyRobMan]

I'm 26 but still get ID'ed going into pubs (even though I don't drink)... *sigh* I think the weirdest one was getting ID'ed in Boots trying to buy hay fever nose-spray :confused:

[Crazy Shark]

I'm 26 but still get ID'ed going into pubs (even though I don't drink)... *sigh* I think the weirdest one was getting ID'ed in Boots trying to buy hay fever nose-spray :confused:

:rofl: Never knew someone could get ID'ed for that :what:

[ducasi]

I'm 26 but still get ID'ed going into pubs (even though I don't drink)... *sigh* I think the weirdest one was getting ID'ed in Boots trying to buy hay fever nose-spray :confused:
That was probably because some of these contain steroids which should not be given to under-18s.

[Crazy Shark]

stop bragging, you're making me feel even older than my body tells me I am.

Im not bragging but i'll be old in a few decades

[ben632664]

I spose I'm just a young-un at 23 :waycool:

[Astro]

That was probably because some of these contain steroids which should not be given to under-18s.

Interesting..........I was on steroids for a week last year.

I felt like a teenager - went dancing 6 nights that week.:clap:

Doctor wouldn't give me any more though.:sad:

[Yogi_Bear]

rapidly approaching sixty :eek:

[Gojive]

Well here we are again, two years on from the start of this thread - and I'm still in the same age bracket as I was then! :D:D

The downside is though, I qualify for the Vets category this year at the Champs :eek::tears:

[dep]

Well here we are again, two years on from the start of this thread - and I'm still in the same age bracket as I was then! :D

The downside is though, I qualify for the Vets category this year at the Champs :eek::tears:does it get boring, being Peter Pan?:angry:
Oh, maybe I should ask our Ladies, they never appear to get any older.:hug::flower:

[The Little 'un]

16......too young?:confused:

[philsmove]

.....
Oh, maybe I should ask our Ladies, they never appear to get any older.:hug::flower:


One of the nice things about getting older is, the age range of women you find attractive increases:awe:

[jivecat]

One of the nice things about getting older is, the age range of women you find attractive increases:awe:

:rofl: :rofl: One of the nice things about getting older is that blokes in their 70s feel free to chat me up!

[Double Trouble]

One of the nice things about getting older is, the age range of women you find attractive increases:awe:

One of the great things about getting older as a woman is realising that men are just grateful that you turn up.

[Gav]

One of the nice things about getting older is, the age range of women you find attractive increases:awe:


:rofl: :rofl: One of the nice things about getting older is that blokes in their 70s feel free to chat me up!


One of the great things about getting older as a woman is realising that men are just grateful that you turn up.

I would tell you what it's like getting older as a man, but I wouldn't know :na:.

[dep]

I would tell you what it's like getting older as a man, but I wouldn't know :na:.you must be the lady in the picture.

[emmylou25]

31. Plenty old enough, but still got lots of dancing in me

[Scotch Bonnet]

does it get boring, being Peter Pan?:angry:
Oh, maybe I should ask our Ladies, they never appear to get any older.:hug::flower:


Flattery will get you everywhere young man !!
Over 45's for seniors is a bit much really,we're not quite collecting pensions yet,and as many have already said ,we could probably outdance many of the young'uns!!!!:D:D:D

[kps]

I'm 31 and hated the fact I had to tick the 30-35 year old option in the poll.

They should have gone up in 5 years not 10. LOL.

[Toasti]

I'm 31 and hated the fact I had to tick the 30-35 year old option in the poll.

They should have gone up in 5 years not 10. LOL.

Me thinks you've had too many of those turquoise coloured alcopoppy thingies, you young 'un you, my poll says 30-40 :doh:

And thinking about it they don't go up in 10 year options - it's actually 11:

30-40
40-50.

The trick is to make the most of your 'cusp' year when you can enjoy boasting about your youth and at the same time look forward to the next 10 years of wisdom and maturity... :lol:

[Dreadful Scathe]

Over 45's for seniors is a bit much really

you think it should be 40 then ? :)

[Dreadful Scathe]

Huh:confused: So you're 60? Seeing as im 20 and you're 20 x 3 according to you're post.
I see they still teach arithmetic in schools :)

[~Jo~]

I'm 21, and still get men 60+ trying to chat me up at freestyles :sick:. I'm one of only a couple of young girls in one of the classes I go to....were like these shiny weird things, and some of the older men are afraid of us and never ask us to freestyle and then others...well....I sometimes wish they wouldnt. What was it one man did at a freestyle, the 'window'? It was the stupidest move I'd ever seen lmao....oh dear.
There are absolutely NO young men at my classes, and this is very annoying lol.

[Princess Fi]

There are absolutely NO young men at my classes, and this is very annoying lol.

You'll just need to recruit some and bring them along :flower:

[tarragon]

I hate the way the numbers in the poll drop away so suddenly after 50. Is there something strange that happens that we should know about? Like they take you aside and whisper in your ear that you really ought to stop coming, as you're spoiling the view for the youngsters? :what:

I only discovered Ceroc in my late forties, and there's no way I'm going to give it up in just a few years' time!!

[philsmove]

I hate the way the numbers in the poll drop away so suddenly after 50. Is there something strange that happens that we should know about? Like they take you aside and whisper in your ear that you really ought to stop coming, as you're spoiling the view for the youngsters? :what:

I only discovered Ceroc in my late forties, and there's no way I'm going to give it up in just a few years' time!!

Don't worry

As you get older you have better things to do than take part in ageist polls

This poll should be renamed, age of people who take part in silly polls in the forum

[Tangled Feet]

Ok how old are you - it's anonymous, but you can post below your age if you're feeling brave :whistle:

Be Well,
Christopher
41 and proud of it

[Double Trouble]

they take you aside and whisper in your ear that you really ought to stop coming, as you're spoiling the view for the youngsters?

No, no, no...they take you aside and whisper "Move over to the dark side - set your sat nav for Ceroc Cheshunt...there you will feel young again, even if you are 102".

:wink:

[Koshka]

I hate the way the numbers in the poll drop away so suddenly after 50.!!

You should come to my local the youngest age is late forties aside from my friends who I have started dragging along. :wink:

[Andy Razzle]

Just turned 40, the average age in north east must be around 50! did notice when I first went to camber sands average age was lower, maybe there should be a regional pole

[jivecat]

If you paid attention to the marketing pictures for Ceroc you'd imagine everyone there was 28 and good-looking, which is very far from the truth, as we all know!

It's beginning to put me off actually - whenever I look at a Ceroc site I'm presented with images of these young things gurning at each other in pre-pull mode. It makes me feel like Ceroc is an age-inappropriate activity for me nowadays.

Perhaps I need to look in on Chesham to make me feel young again? Or perhaps Ceroc could include the occasional tiny photo of a carefully vetted crinkly in their marketing bumph?

[emmylou25]

If you paid attention to the marketing pictures for Ceroc you'd imagine everyone there was 28 and good-looking, which is very far from the truth, as we all know!


We were only talking about this last week at the 'older' venue I crew at.

We're struggling to get new people through the door as younger people come once but are put off by the fact that apart from crew & 2 very young girls who come with their parents, the youngest people are probably late 40s. To keep a venue atmosphere and encourage new people to come along, there needs to be a good mix of ages otherwise a venue could start to stagnate, especially if you get a proportion of the 'older' dancers who sit in small groups chatting all evening rather than mixing and getting up to dance. Even as crew it's sometimes hard to persuade them to dance (despite the fact they say they enjoy the music!)

[jivecat]

To keep a venue atmosphere and encourage new people to come along, there needs to be a good mix of ages otherwise a venue could start to stagnate, especially if you get a proportion of the 'older' dancers who sit in small groups chatting all evening rather than mixing and getting up to dance.
I take your point, you're right about the mix of ages. But my point is that the over 40s who comprise a good proportion of Ceroc's customers are ruthlessly expunged from all Ceroc literature in the (failed?) bid to pull in the custom of young people. As someone who's proud to be mature (at last) I find that off-putting, bordering on offensive. But no matter, I'm sure Ceroc can afford to lose a few grey-dance-pounds!

In my experience, it's the older dancers who are never off the floor and are willing to mix and dance with anyone, whereas it's often the under 25s who hang around moodily in groups dancing mainly with each other. That would certainly spoil the atmosphere of a venue for me.

At the moment, Ceroc advertising seems to be falling between two stools. They are not accurately representing the product they are selling, so young people turn up and may find it not to their taste, while older people who are a more suitable target audience given the demographics are not being drawn in. Also, I'd have thought fostering a committed customer base of mature people with plenty of disposable income to spend on a Ceroc-habit would be as worthwhile as courting the impoverished and fickle youth.




We're struggling to get new people through the door Seriously - the marketing imagery that Ceroc use has not changed much in a decade. It's putting me off, for one. Is it really working for you?

[emmylou25]

Seriously - the marketing imagery that Ceroc use has not changed much in a decade. It's putting me off, for one. Is it really working for you?

Personally it doesn't worry me, as I just want to go to dance - that's what I looked for when starting out, rather than looking at all the marketing bumpf. But the first time I went along (having been recommended it by older friends) I hated it as I was the youngest person there by some years at 27ish and didn't go back until a year later (with some younger friends who wanted to try it). I can see the marketing might put people off/make them feel ostracised, but I'd have thought having younger people in the marketing would put fewer older people off than vice versa.

I guess it all depends on the area - the central Oxford venues are much younger in demographic than the venues just outside of Oxford in my experience, although the ones even further away seem to have a broader spread of ages.

I think, like in most areas of the media, ceroc want to portray the 'best' view of their business, however aspirational - if that's the target audience then fine, even if the majority of their customers may be older.

[jivecat]

Personally it doesn't worry me, as I just want to go to dance - that's what I looked for when starting out, rather than looking at all the marketing bumpf. But the first time I went along (having been recommended it by older friends) I hated it as I was the youngest person there by some years at 27ish and didn't go back until a year later (with some younger friends who wanted to try it). I can see the marketing might put people off/make them feel ostracised, but I'd have thought having younger people in the marketing would put fewer older people off than vice versa.

I guess it all depends on the area - the central Oxford venues are much younger in demographic than the venues just outside of Oxford in my experience, although the ones even further away seem to have a broader spread of ages.

I think, like in most areas of the media, ceroc want to portray the 'best' view of their business, however aspirational - if that's the target audience then fine, even if the majority of their customers may be older.


Yes, I just go to dance as well, and it wasn't marketing literature that got me involved in the first place, but word of mouth.

Having had a bit of a break from freestyles recently, I've been surprised, on returning, to find how much dance is dominated by older age groups. So I've felt at home, and I'm not surprised you felt a bit out of it!

[Debster]

I think, like in most areas of the media, ceroc want to portray the 'best' view of their business, however aspirational ...

I bet that is spot on! Think about it... How many models for anything are portrayed to be the real age of their target market?? Women's magazines are a prime example.

We all feel young and alive when we dance (it's the level of aches and pains afterwards that start to set us apart! :tears: )

[bubblyblondenutter]

i have only been dancing for 6months and i am one of the youngest people at the ceroc night and it doesn't bother me one little bit. i am able to mix with mainly everyone. i find the younger dancers don't tend to ask me up that much and same at party nights. this doesn't put me off and i like the fact that it is all ages that go. seems to be that you catch the ceroc bug as soon as you start and then you are hooked. so if they can hook younger people then they will be dancing years later

[Ickle Sue]

Ceroc are bound to market the dance with younger ppl and yes in my area I am one of the youngest. In my area its between late 30's - 40's +.
I only got into this dance due to my mother wanting to go & see what it was like, I then got hooked :nice:

[Prian]

Started Ceroc when I was 27. Will be 44 on Tuesday. Doesn't seem that long though.

[Minnie M]

Started Ceroc when I was 27. Will be 44 on Tuesday. Doesn't seem that long though.

When did you do your last UK Ceroc class ?

[Prian]

When did you do your last UK Ceroc class ?

January 2008.

The wife of my best friend in Sri Lanka is a dancer and we often dance together. And have done a little teaching. But it isn't the same.

[Minnie M]

January 2008.

The wife of my best friend in Sri Lanka is a dancer and we often dance together. And have done a little teaching. But it isn't the same.

You should have word with Mr Ellard, maybe you could get a franchise going in Sri Lanka :respect:

[t0mt0m]

Sure does feel there's much more negative skew (few young folk, lots of older folk) at the lessons/events i've been to. Maybe it's very region dependent on the mix? Sub 30 male lead seems an anomaly it seems. (WCS doubly so!)

[jivecat]

Sure does feel there's much more negative skew (few young folk, lots of older folk) at the lessons/events i've been to. Maybe it's very region dependent on the mix? Sub 30 male lead seems an anomaly it seems. (WCS doubly so!)

Could you explain what's negative about having lots of older folk, exactly?

[t0mt0m]

Could you explain what's negative about having lots of older folk, exactly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skewness

I was just talking about distribution of age :) My take was just that I haven't seen classes with such a normal distribution around 30-40, with 18-30 having such numbers.

So, perhaps that's due to larger city events having a younger crowd?
(Ceroc membership database / similar large jive membership databases probably hold a lot of data that could have these trends within them)

[Bubble]

Could you explain what's negative about having lots of older folk, exactly?

I'm sure this has been discussed before. In fact, I think we discussed an Oz or NZ venue which has an upper age limit.

Anyway, here's what I think, and this is an observation rather than a criticism:

In my experience, MJ nights can often fall into one of two categories with respect to age distribution.

1. A very high proportion of older dancers, and very few, if any youngsters, with many of the younger ones only coming because their mum does.

2. A wide range of ages with no significant dominance in any age bracket.

In recent years I'd say the proportion of venues in category 1 has, if anything, increased.

Now, this is probably going to be controversial:

For category 1 - I'm pretty sure a lot of young people walk through the door, see nothing but people their parents age dancing and never come back. None of them want to do 'dad-dancing' and so the age distribution becomes more and more skewed each year because the youngsters rarely stay and the oldies get older and never leave.

For category 2 - Young people feel comfortable in the presence of other young people and so the age distribution remains fairly balanced. For venues in this category I think a 'critical mass' of young people is required to maintain the situation, if too many young people leave then the age distribution can move terminally towards category 1.

Obviously there's other factors such as city-centre vs urban venues and also the fact that older people are now remaining active for much longer.

[Prian]

For category 1 - I'm pretty sure a lot of young people walk through the door, see nothing but people their parents age dancing and never come back.


According to the poll the main age group is 20-40. How young are these young people and how young are their parents?

[David Bailey]

Could you explain what's negative about having lots of older folk, exactly?

They are The Root Of All Evil.

Running around the place (admittedly slowly), displaying their rampant oldness, no respect for their youngers... I think they should all be banned.

[Ghost]

Could you explain what's negative about having lots of older folk, exactly?

Actually that's kinda the reason I started the poll in the first place. I wanted to get an idea of how long I could plausibly carry on doing Ceroc for. The sudden drop off after 60 is a bit worrying...

Having said that I know other hobbies that started off with a bunch of young 'uns and gradually changed as we all got older (eg more disposable income but less free time).

Ceroc and indeed tango (where it appears you can go on forever) are both something I hope to be enjoying for many years to come :wink:

[philsmove]

[QUOTE=Ghost;585171. The sudden drop off after 60 is a bit worrying...

:[/QUOTE]
Us "oldies" don't wast time doing pointless polls, we are too busy dancing

[jivecat]

I would like to question the youth-centric view that Tomtom may or may not be taking.



Now, this is probably going to be controversial:

For category 1 - I'm pretty sure a lot of mature people walk through the door, see nothing but people their grandkids' age dancing and never come back. None of them find the inexperience and self-obsession of youth very appealing and fear that they will be discriminated against when it it comes to getting partners. So the numbers at this venue are at risk of being compromised because the grey panthers will not stick around and the yoof are notoriously fickle and uncommited.

For category 2 - Mature people feel comfortable in the presence of other mature people but are also grown-up enough to cope with other age categories. The young people that do attend are happy to just dance and socialise without an undue obsession with finding sexual partners and so the age distribution remains fairly balanced. For venues in this category I think a 'critical mass' of mature people is required to maintain the situation, if too many silver foxes leave then venue numbers terminally decline.



Seriously, I can't think of any reason why venue managers would not want to encourage the grey pound. Younger people are far more likely to dance for a short while then leave. They may quickly lose interest if "the crowd" moves on, making them no better a bet than the older dancers who are regularly dropping dead. Older pople make up the bulk of reliable attendees who are shoring up the profits week in week out. I don't think that the marketing mantra of catching them young necessarily applies. Many of the regular faces at MJ events did not begin dancing until their 30s or 40s and have proved long stayers with lots of money to made from them, so I don't see the need for negative attitudes towards them.

I have to question the view that young is better - because, well, it just ain't. The young are a little bit prettier but in most other respects they are rather uninteresting. I am much happier at venues where the majority are over 35 rather than under, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.


Running around the place (admittedly slowly), displaying their rampant oldness, no respect for their youngers...I'm doing my best. Are you ready to join in yet? :whistle:

[David Bailey]

Seriously, I can't think of any reason why venue managers would not want to encourage the grey pound.
Playing devil's advocate here, I can think of a couple of commercial possibiilities:

1. If you think you may be losing out more custom from discouraging young people, than you're gaining from attracting the older crowd. This might be an issue in some central urban venues, which traditionally attract a younger crowd.
2. Longevity (no pun intended). In theory, if you get a dancer at 20, he / she may stick with you for decades. If you get a dancer at 60, you're only likely to have his / her business for a few years.

Admittedly, I don't think either of those reasons hold water, but they might be justifications.

Possibly, some people have a fear of the image of Modern Jive turning into a pensioner's tea dance activity - i.e. one where the image is permanently associated with Old People Dancing, and Old People Dancing Is Bad (see current media images of ballroom dancing functions). So there may be the whole 'youth = good marketing' thing going on.


I have to question the view that young is better - because, well, it just ain't. The young are a little bit prettier but in most other respects they are rather uninteresting. I am much happier at venues where the majority are over 35 rather than under, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
To be honest, I'm not too worried about age of attendees. It's simply not a factor in my decisions as to whether to go to a venue.


I'm doing my best. Are you ready to join in yet? :whistle:
Blimey, I've been an oldie at heart for 25 years or more. :na:

[Ghost]

I have to question the view that young is better - because, well, it just ain't.
I believe the correct response is :na:


The young are a little bit prettier
A cynical person might point out that if you run a venue and are going to have to dance with at least some of the customers, it might be desirable if they were young and pretty. If you're just going to dance and not going to talk to them, it doesn't really matter how interesting they are...

Plus you want a pool of young pretty people to choose from for demos.

Having said that the speed of songs in Ceroc has slowed down noticeably. Bouncy Ceroc has become smooth Ceroc. Now non-slotted Ceroc is becoming slotted Ceroc (much easier to just walk up and down a line in your old age!) so maybe Ceroc is catering for the grey pound in more subtle ways.

Ceroc also seems to attract quite a few young women who prefer older men and indeed quite a few older women who prefer younger men (and vice versa) so a mix of ages probably keeps everyone happy :awe:

[Double Trouble]

Seriously, I can't think of any reason why venue managers would not want to encourage the grey pound. Younger people are far more likely to dance for a short while then leave.

You definitely have something there. At Just Jivin' the over 60's get in for £3, the rest of us have to pay £6.

I would say that almost all of the folk that go are pensioners and most of them are regulars I've seen going for years and years, unlike, say, me who goes for a few weeks, gets bored and disappears for 6 months.

I love it there though...lots of interesting, friendly and witty old farts who keep me busy on the dance floor all night. Some of them can even dance a bit. :wink:

[Bubble]

perhaps Ceroc could include the occasional tiny photo of a carefully vetted crinkly in their marketing bumph?

I'm now imagining a photo of John Major and Edwina Currie doing Ceroc. It's not doing it for me!


We were only talking about this last week at the 'older' venue I crew at.

We're struggling to get new people through the door as younger people come once but are put off by the fact that apart from crew & 2 very young girls who come with their parents, the youngest people are probably late 40s. To keep a venue atmosphere and encourage new people to come along, there needs to be a good mix of ages otherwise a venue could start to stagnate, especially if you get a proportion of the 'older' dancers who sit in small groups chatting all evening rather than mixing and getting up to dance. Even as crew it's sometimes hard to persuade them to dance (despite the fact they say they enjoy the music!)

:yeah:

I also dance Salsa, which often seems to attract younger people than MJ. Occasionally someone I know from Salsa turns up at MJ to see what it's like. They don't usually come back. Of the few times I've seen them at Salsa and asked them if they're giving MJ another go they always say 'No', when I ask why the answer is usually along the lines of 'everyone's really old'. It also happens the other way around, I've known a MJ dancer in their forties who tried Salsa and didn't go back because 'Salsa is only for young, pretty people'.


At the moment, Ceroc advertising seems to be falling between two stools. They are not accurately representing the product they are selling, so young people turn up and may find it not to their taste, while older people who are a more suitable target audience given the demographics are not being drawn in. Also, I'd have thought fostering a committed customer base of mature people with plenty of disposable income to spend on a Ceroc-habit would be as worthwhile as courting the impoverished and fickle youth.

Seriously - the marketing imagery that Ceroc use has not changed much in a decade. It's putting me off, for one. Is it really working for you?

They want to market it as a fun and sexy dance. Now I refer you back to my earlier comment regarding a former Prime Minister.


According to the poll the main age group is 20-40. How young are these young people and how young are their parents?

I think the poll is quite possibly skewed. Young people tend to use the internet more than older people.


They are The Root Of All Evil.

Running around the place (admittedly slowly), displaying their rampant oldness, no respect for their youngers... I think they should all be banned.

Yes, but they're about to pay (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8326605/Baby-boomers-must-pay-for-their-own-elderly-care.html) for having the cheek to survive to retirement age.


.............Younger people are far more likely to dance for a short while then leave. They may quickly lose interest if "the crowd" moves on, making them no better a bet than the older dancers who are regularly dropping dead............

Young people often learn much more readily than older people, because they're either still in full time education or not long out of it. Then they get bored and try a different dance/activity. Of course, another explanation is that they are younger, prettier and get asked for more dances..........


A cynical person might point out that if you run a venue and are going to have to dance with at least some of the customers, it might be desirable if they were young and pretty. If you're just going to dance and not going to talk to them, it doesn't really matter how interesting they are...

A bit like marrying someone with beauty rather than brains, on the basis that you'll spend a lot longer looking at them than talking with them.


much easier to just walk up and down a line in your old age!

Maybe it's to ease the transition from Line Dancing to MJ?


Ceroc also seems to attract quite a few young women who prefer older men and indeed quite a few older women who prefer younger men (and vice versa) so a mix of ages probably keeps everyone happy :awe:

A few years ago I attended a MJ class at which a girl in her late teens was taking money on the door. After a few weeks I asked whether she danced herself, her response, 'No way! All the men are really old and creepy!'

[jivecat]

I'm really impressed with your thorough reading of this thread, Bubble. I also notice I'm at grave risk of repeating myself, must be my age.

I'm now imagining a photo of John Major and Edwina Currie doing Ceroc. It's not doing it for me!He got rave reviews from Edwina. "A skilled and considerate lover" is wot she said. I've always looked at him with new eyes since then.
And how many 21-year olds would you say that about?



A few years ago I attended a MJ class at which a girl in her late teens was taking money on the door. After a few weeks I asked whether she danced herself, her response, 'No way! All the men are really old and creepy!'

:rofl:Promising flirt-objects fom my point of view, then!

[philsmove]

One of the things I absolutely love about Ceroc is no one seems to care about your age
At my class I know more than 1.33% are over 60, but no one cares
Only three things are important, smile, shower and don’t refuse a dance
What car you drive, does not matter
What part of town you come, from does not matter
How much you earn, does not matter
What you do for a living, does not matter
And let be honest, how well you dance, does not matter that much ether
:cheers:

[Twirly]

The thing that those who are young and love dancing but have issues with older dancers should remember is that one day (and sooner than you think) you will be those "older" dancers.

So since what goes around comes around, don't be too harsh...

[Gav]

Some of them can even dance a bit. :wink:

:rofl:



What car you drive, does not matter
What part of town you come, from does not matter
How much you earn, does not matter
What you do for a living, does not matter


Ahhh, so that's what I'm doing wrong :rolleyes:

[Trouble]

Cerocers are just not that fussy.

Scarface was relieved to find that out when he first started going as the last club he went too he was rudely shouted at by a young youth...

"GRANDAD, WHERES YA SLIPPERS"

he never went again. :D

[Bubble]

I'm really impressed with your thorough reading of this thread, Bubble.

Really? I've only read the most recent two or three pages of posts.

Surely you weren't being sarcastic? :naughty:


He got rave reviews from Edwina. "A skilled and considerate lover" is wot she said. I've always looked at him with new eyes since then.

Will somebody please pass the mind-bleach. :sick:


And how many 21-year olds would you say that about?

Most 21-year olds are probably more focused on quantity, rather than quality. When they get a bit older and can't keep it up all night they have a reason to start concentrating on quality. :wink:


Promising flirt-objects fom my point of view, then!

Promising or challenging? :lol:


One of the things I absolutely love about Ceroc is no one seems to care about your age
At my class I know more than 1.33% are over 60, but no one cares
Only three things are important, smile, shower and don’t refuse a dance
What car you drive, does not matter
What part of town you come, from does not matter
How much you earn, does not matter
What you do for a living, does not matter
And let be honest, how well you dance, does not matter that much ether


:yeah: I love all of that too..........................


The thing that those who are young and love dancing but have issues with older dancers should remember is that one day (and sooner than you think) you will be those "older" dancers.

So since what goes around comes around, don't be too harsh...

...................and I love dancing with people of all ages :cheers:

But the thing is, I don't like attending events where the age distribution is highly skewed, whether that be to the younger, middling, or the older end. Does that make me ageist? Is it possible to be discriminatory when you prefer maximum diversity and an even distribution?

I have exactly the same approach to housing, I don't want to live in a road full of families, singletons, childless couples, pensioners etc. etc. I'd much rather live in a road which has an even balance of all of those types of people. Is that wrong?

[jivecat]

One of the things I absolutely love about Ceroc is no one seems to care about your age


Yes, which is why an attempt to court a picky youth market might be a problem - because, apparently, they will care about people's age.


Surely you weren't being sarcastic? Sarcastic, moi? In a long thread my attention span only lasts for a few posts so anyone who goes back further than that is a higher life form, AFAIC. And don't call me Shirley.


Will somebody please pass the mind-bleach. Too late! Anyway, why do you find the thought of someone mature and not conventionally attractive having successful sex so disturbing? Are you planning to die before you get old? Or just take a vow of chastity on your
40th birthday?

[philsmove]

But my point is that the over 40s who comprise a good proportion of Ceroc's customers are ruthlessly expunged from all Ceroc literature
But this often the case with all form advertising, look at expensive sports car promotional material, it rarely features the grey haired men who can actually afford them. Advertising for Nikon high end cameras never features , the sort of peron you find at a proffesional photo trade show,

[jivecat]

But this often the case with all form advertising, look at expensive sports car promotional material, it rarely features the grey haired men who can actually afford them. Advertising for Nikon high end cameras never features , the sort of peron you find at a proffesional photo trade show,

Yes, up to a point. But often they put representatives of the target group into the photographic material, otherwise we'd be too stupid to know we were supposed to buy them. We have to be able to identify with the character in the advert. The exception is when they're trying to sell us an aspirational product, like using young women to sell hair dye for greying hair.

It could well be that the young things in the Ceroc literature could discourage as many people as they attract. The message will be - "I'll be too old to go to that, I wouldn't fit in."

[Twirly]

Yes, up to a point. But often they put representatives of the target group into the photographic material, otherwise we'd be too stupid to know we were supposed to buy them. We have to be able to identify with the character in the advert. The exception is when they're trying to sell us an aspirational product, like using young women to sell hair dye for greying hair.

It could well be that the young things in the Ceroc literature could discourage as many people as they attract. The message will be - "I'll be too old to go to that, I wouldn't fit in."

Am not quite sure about that (though I wish it was true).

As I'm not working right now, I've been watching some daytime TV. There's a certain advert where a furniture company is "sponsoring" the programme. The chairs are clearly the sort aimed at old folks (usually seen in old folks homes, easy to get out of), but the men and women demonstrating them are probably 40 years younger than their target audience. And I had to point out to someone recently that the "comfy trousers" in the weekend supplement he was so admiring had an elasticated waist and were probably aimed at a chap at least 20 years older than him :doh: :lol:

People don't want to admit that they are as old as they are, so products/services aimed at a younger audience are likely to appeal. There are a few exceptions, such as Jane Fonda advertising moisturiser

[Bells]

Anyway, why do you find the thought of someone mature and not conventionally attractive having successful sex so disturbing? Are you planning to die before you get old? Or just take a vow of chastity on your 40th birthday?
:yeah:

I agree with Bubble - diversity is best.

[meghann]

Ceroc also seems to attract quite a few young women who prefer older men and indeed quite a few older women who prefer younger men (and vice versa) so a mix of ages probably keeps everyone happy :awe:


One of the things I absolutely love about Ceroc is no one seems to care about your age

Quite - one of the best things about MJ for me is the opportunity to meet older men on equal terms!

I met my boyfriend while jiving, and he's twice my age (I'm 26). I can't imagine how he would have found an excuse to get to know me outside of a place where people don't care about age.


:yeah:

I agree with Bubble - diversity is best.

Also agreed :D