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Donna
7th-April-2006, 04:02 PM
I came 5th at Britroc 2004 and got a towel which isnt even big enough to stay up when tied round my waist. Say I was wearing that at a dance event..... it would FALL DOWN. Is THAT the sort of thing you want to see at a dance event? I know I dont?!?!

The thought of seeing a smurf naked makes me feel sick.:sick: Just keep ya nappy on it'll do fine.



me: that was 'strange'
tony: uh-huh but we like to try new ideas
me: ok. your wifes cute btw

:eek:



Bet you dont even know what DVD stands for anyway ;)

Doh who doesn't? Digital Video Disc. ;)

CJ
7th-April-2006, 04:11 PM
Doh who doesn't? Digital Video Disc. ;)

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Is that your final answer?!?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Donna
7th-April-2006, 04:47 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Is that your final answer?!?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Nope. Some say versatile some assume it's video. Whatever! :grin:

doc martin
7th-April-2006, 05:35 PM
Nope. Some say versatile some assume it's video. Whatever! :grin:
So Digital Votever Disc it is then. 5054

Donna
7th-April-2006, 06:00 PM
So Digital Votever Disc it is then. 5054


:yeah: :rofl:

Dreadful Scathe
8th-April-2006, 12:49 AM
Nope. Some say versatile some assume it's video. Whatever! :grin:

Can I assume from this that you got it wrong and after CJ's comment looked it up to get the right answer ? It is indeed Digital Versatile Disc - not 'some say it is' it IS :) A lot of people dont know that though ;)

ducasi
8th-April-2006, 03:12 AM
It's "Digital Versatile Disc" or "Digital Video Disc"... Or just simply "DVD" – like many other acronyms in the ICT world, the folks who "own" the name now claim it doesn't stand for anything.


"DVD" was originally an initialism for "Digital Video Disc." Some members of the DVD Forum believe that it should stand for "Digital Versatile Disc" to reflect its widespread use for non-video applications. Toshiba, which maintains the official DVD Forum site, adheres to the latter interpretation, and indeed this appeared within the copyright warnings on some of the earliest examples. However, the DVD Forum never reached a consensus on the matter, and so today the official name of the format is simply "DVD"; the letters do not officially stand for anything.

Dreadful Scathe
8th-April-2006, 01:48 PM
Wikipedia is wrong this time. DVD was a technology produced by Pioneer and other companies at the beginning of the 1990s.... to quote Pioneer ...


Pioneer Corporation is a global leader in electronics and audio/video products for the home, car, commerce and industry, particularly in the two core multimedia technologies - Digital Versatile Disc (DVD) and plasma display panels (PDP)

Wikipedia also only lists the "versatile" definition as a link to the DVD article under its optical disc section (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_disc) which belies the wording of the actual DVD article.

And as someone who was interested in the technology at the time it was first released I know there was initially no such "video" definition and I have still yet to see one on any hardware or on any actual discs. :)

The clincher is the DVD Forum - the official DVD site - which wikipedia says "never reached a consensus on the matter", it has THIS on its fact page here (http://www.dvdforum.org/tech-dvdprimer.htm#1).



What does DVD mean?

The keyword is "versatile." Digital Versatile discs provide superb video, audio and data storage and access -- all on one disc


hmm :)

ducasi
8th-April-2006, 03:46 PM
Common sense says that "digital video disc" came before "digital versatile disc", otherwise they'd have called it "VDD" – versatile digital disc, or something like that...

I'd guess that "DVD" meaning "digital video disc" was used during the design by the engineers, and then the marketing folks reinvented the name.

If as Wikipedia says, the DVD Forum web page is managed by Toshiba rather than by the Forum, then you can't take for gospel everything they say as being the opinion of the DVD Forum.

Also, see here (http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#1.1) and here (http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#0.3).

DavidB
9th-April-2006, 12:23 PM
Common sense says that "digital video disc" came before "digital versatile disc", otherwise they'd have called it "VDD" – versatile digital disc, or something like that...
Can you imagine the porn industry releasing films on VDD?

Dreadful Scathe
9th-April-2006, 06:21 PM
Common sense says that "digital video disc" came before "digital versatile disc", otherwise they'd have called it "VDD" – versatile digital disc, or something like that...

I'd guess that "DVD" meaning "digital video disc" was used during the design by the engineers, and then the marketing folks reinvented the name.

If as Wikipedia says, the DVD Forum web page is managed by Toshiba rather than by the Forum, then you can't take for gospel everything they say as being the opinion of the DVD Forum.

Commen Sense says? so if I had some then i would have thought of that myself...thanks ;) and you "guess" that the engineers used the term originally? must be true then :)

And you were happy to quote wikipedia on "the official DVD Forum site" as if the DVD forum was the place that would know the facts and now just as happy to claim we "can't take for gospel everything they say" when their own FAQ doesnt even hint at the possibility of the definition you're pushing.

;)

ducasi
9th-April-2006, 06:46 PM
Do you have a response to what is written in the DVD FAQ (http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html)?

Dreadful Scathe
10th-April-2006, 09:36 AM
Do you have a response to what is written in the DVD FAQ (http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html)?

Yes this unofficial DVD resource says "Digital video disc (the original meaning proposed by some of DVD's creators)" which seems a bit of a contradiction - if only some proposed this then how can it be the original meaning? Maybe some people proposed "Dynamite Virile Donkey" but it doesnt say :)

That faq also says "DVD-Video (often simply called DVD) defines how video programs such as movies are stored on disc" why would you call it "DVD-Video" if its not "versatile"?... "Digital Video Disc Video" that makes no sense.

Remember, it doesnt make any sense!! :)

ducasi
10th-April-2006, 10:01 AM
I'd agree that "Digital Versatile Disc" is the current commonly understood meaning of "DVD", but as the author says, agreeing with both me and Wikipedia, the "original" meaning was "Digital Video Disc", and it officially now is just "DVD" – without the letters standing for anything.

Despite this FAQ being "unofficial", I'm more inclined to believe it and Wikipedia than you, or even the DVD Forum web site.

Especially after reading this mini-bio of the author:

The DVD FAQ is written by Jim Taylor, the author of DVD Demystified and Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About DVD. Jim has been in the DVD business since before there was a DVD business. He found out about the upcoming DVD format in 1995 and began writing articles to let others know about this amazing new technology. Jim received the 2000 DVD Pro Discus Award for Outstanding Contribution to the Industry, was named one of the 21 most influential DVD executives by DVD Report, was an inaugural inductee into the 2002 Digital Media Hall of Fame, and was named one of the Pioneers of DVD in the October 2003 issue of One to One magazine. Jim has worked with interactive media for over 20 years, developing educational software, laserdiscs, CD-ROMs, Web sites, and DVDs, along with teaching workshops, seminars, and university courses. He writes articles and columns about DVD for publications such as Widescreen Review, serves as President of the DVD Association, and sits on advisory boards of leading-edge companies in the DVD industry. Jim was formerly DVD Evangelist at Microsoft, and is currently Chief of DVD Technology and General Manager of the Advanced Technology Group at Sonic Solutions, the leading developer of DVD authoring systems.

Donna
10th-April-2006, 12:25 PM
Can you imagine the porn industry releasing films on VDD?


:rofl: That's a good un'! :rofl:

I agree with Ducasi though and I have also heard that it was originally called "Digital Video Disc" and later changed it to Versatile. That's two against one then hey DF? Or make that 3. Wikipedia being the 3rd.

Dreadful Scathe
10th-April-2006, 01:21 PM
the "original" meaning was "Digital Video Disc"

of some!! and I've never heard of it and I've got a collection of cuddly smurfs.


...Jim was formerly DVD Evangelist at Microsoft...

He hardly has any credibility at all anymore :rolleyes: and Wikipedia never had any in the first place.

It makes no sense that an optical disc format which had a lot of ..er..versatile uses and was later used primarily for video would be called VIDEO first and VERSATILE later. It makes no sense. Sense? None! :)

Donna
10th-April-2006, 01:42 PM
Just how much further is this conversation on the letters DVD going to go? :confused: :rofl:

CJ
10th-April-2006, 01:45 PM
Just how much further is this conversation on the letters DVD going to go? :confused: :rofl:

How much longer will it take you to admit you were wrong?:confused: :rofl:

Dreadful Scathe
10th-April-2006, 01:54 PM
Just how much further is this conversation on the letters DVD going to go? :confused: :rofl:
Less said about Ducasis Verbal Diarrhea the better :rolleyes: :flower: :) ;)

Donna
10th-April-2006, 01:59 PM
How much longer will it take you to admit you were wrong?:confused: :rofl:

Ok, Ok I was wwrrrr wwrrr...Right!!! :nice: and wrong! :( :rofl:


Less said about Ducasis Verbal Diarrhea the better

:rofl:

ducasi
10th-April-2006, 02:08 PM
DiarrheaIs that how Pioneer and Toshiba say that diarrhoea should be spelt?

Donna
10th-April-2006, 03:04 PM
Is that how Pioneer and Toshiba say that diarrhoea should be spelt?

Awww duc you got there before me! I was going to point out that spelling mistake to get my own back. :rofl:

CJ
10th-April-2006, 03:09 PM
Is that how Pioneer and Toshiba say that diarrhoea should be spelt?

Why not mention the missing apostrophe in "Ducasis" too??

Dreadful Scathe
11th-April-2006, 09:18 AM
Is that how Pioneer and Toshiba say that diarrhoea should be spelt?

No just the dictionary and several health web sites - must be an american spelling then :confused: but thats the way ive always spelt it :)

Gojive
11th-April-2006, 09:31 AM
No just the dictionary and several health web sites - must be an american spelling then :confused: but thats the way ive always spelt it :)

Does spelling 'diarrhea' like that, run in the family? Or am I talking out my bum again? :)

Donna
11th-April-2006, 11:08 AM
Does spelling 'diarrhea' like that, run in the family? Or am I talking out my bum again? :)

Maybe in the smurf world that is how they spell it. They have to be different you see..... ahem.:wink:

CJ
11th-April-2006, 11:18 AM
Does spelling 'diarrhea' like that, run in the family? Or am I talking out my bum again? :)

apparently, it runs in your genes.:D

:blush: :blush:

Donna
11th-April-2006, 11:21 AM
apparently, it runs in your genes.:D

:blush: :blush:

Eeewww :sick: :rofl: Nice one CJ.

Dreadful Scathe
11th-April-2006, 11:24 AM
had time to check - diarrhoea is a chiefly british spelling but diarrhea is perfectly valid - see here (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=diarrhea)

Ducasi talking nonsense again :)

ducasi
11th-April-2006, 11:27 AM
Just goes to show there can be more than one "right" answer...

(Except for what the letters in "DVD" mean. :na:)

Donna
11th-April-2006, 11:31 AM
had time to check - diarrhoea is a chiefly british spelling but diarrhea is perfectly valid - see here (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=diarrhea)

Ducasi talking nonsense again :)


Oh dear! Have you not got anything better to do than to look up the word diarrhoea. :rofl: And anyway, this thread is supposed to be on the Blackpool DVD and all of a sudden, people are starting to talk poo! :grin:

Gojive
11th-April-2006, 12:16 PM
had time to check - diarrhoea is a chiefly british spelling but diarrhea is perfectly valid - see here (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=diarrhea)



The difference is just a vowel movement then ;)

Dreadful Scathe
11th-April-2006, 12:19 PM
:rofl: very droll

Donna
11th-April-2006, 12:51 PM
The difference is just a vowel movement then ;)

:rofl: I can understand why this has been moved to the geeks corner!! :rofl:

Gojive
11th-April-2006, 12:53 PM
:rofl: I can understand why this has been moved to the geeks corner!! :rofl:

It was going down the pan fast! :blush:

Donna
11th-April-2006, 01:23 PM
It was going down the pan fast! :blush:

:rofl:

CJ
11th-April-2006, 02:59 PM
It was going down the pan fast! :blush:

we'll just have to see if it will run and run...

Donna
11th-April-2006, 03:49 PM
we'll just have to see if it will run and run...

I hope not! :what:

Rhythm King
12th-April-2006, 09:56 AM
we'll just have to see if it will run and run...


I hope not! :what:

But it's still in it's first flush!

Donna
12th-April-2006, 11:32 AM
But it's still in it's first flush!

:rolleyes: oh dear! :grin: