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Gadget
8th-February-2006, 02:20 AM
Valentines day falls on a Tuesday. Next Tusday. My only night I have free & available to dance. My wife does not dance.

Am I a cad for even having the dilema of going dancing or spending a "romantic" night in?

Any suggestions?

Sinner
8th-February-2006, 02:34 AM
I would suggest you get a grip on reality....:what: If you missed one tuesday out of 52 whats the big deal.. but miss one important day to you wife and man, your ass is grass and she is gonna mow it :rofl: And whats with the night in ? take the woman out ( no, not dancing) treat her to a lovely meal and spend your hard earned:wink:

well, just my thoughts anyway.. but thanks for the remonder that dreadful day was due...:innocent:

McJester
8th-February-2006, 03:18 AM
Valentines day falls on a Tuesday. Next Tusday. My only night I have free & available to dance. My wife does not dance.

Am I a cad for even having the dilema of going dancing or spending a "romantic" night in?

Any suggestions?

Gadget, you get shouted at as it is, by going dancing on Valentines instead of out / in with 'er indoors, well all I can say is that I'll be booking some ear defenders and I'm 140 miles away. :rofl:

As for Caddishness - thinking - we can let you off with, doing - thats when it gets bad.

Send her a hug from me

:hug:

McJ

McJester
8th-February-2006, 03:25 AM
Any suggestions?

How about packing the kids off somewhere, a few drink for Angela, a good meal:drool: and Princess Bride :love: on the DVD

Live safe, don't dance on Tuesday, anyway you got to give us single guys a chance :whistle:

:hug:
McJ

ducasi
8th-February-2006, 08:26 AM
Didn't you have this same dilemma when it was your wife's birthday, or something similar?

I'd miss a night's dancing for the love of my life. (If I had one! :wink:)

azande
8th-February-2006, 09:19 AM
Didn't you have this same dilemma when it was your wife's birthday, or something similar?
:yeah:

I'm afraid the answers will not change, no matter how many times you are going to ask the questions... :wink:

ChrisA
8th-February-2006, 09:21 AM
Valentines day falls on a Tuesday. Next Tusday. My only night I have free & available to dance. My wife does not dance.

Am I a cad for even having the dilema of going dancing or spending a "romantic" night in?

Any suggestions?
This is a tongue-in-cheek post, right? This surely isn't a serious question?

Anyway, assuming you do stay in with the love of your life and mother of your children, all you need is to get


the right timeing and throwing in the odd 'styling' element.


... and you're sorted !!

:devil: :love:

Icey
8th-February-2006, 09:21 AM
Am I a cad for even having the dilema of going dancing or spending a "romantic" night in?

Gadget, you are a brave, brave man for even considering going dancing :worthy: :rofl: :rofl:

I wish you luck :flower:

TheTramp
8th-February-2006, 09:22 AM
Dancing. No question....

Addicted? Moi?? :innocent:

senorita
8th-February-2006, 09:27 AM
I would suggest you get a grip on reality....:what: If you missed one tuesday out of 52 whats the big deal.. but miss one important day to you wife and man, your ass is grass and she is gonna mow it :rofl: And whats with the night in ? take the woman out ( no, not dancing) treat her to a lovely meal and spend your hard earned:wink:

well, just my thoughts anyway.. but thanks for the remonder that dreadful day was due...:innocent:

Agree with the romantic candle lit dinner!....hmm nice :nice: You can dance anytime!!..nothing like a bit of quality time together

reminder...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

LMC
8th-February-2006, 09:34 AM
Pre-emptive strike: celebrate V-Day *in style* at the weekend on the basis that everywhere on the day itself will be over-priced, over-crowded and over-rated - then go dancing on Tuesday.

clevedonboy
8th-February-2006, 09:55 AM
Pre-emptive strike: celebrate V-Day *in style* at the weekend on the basis that everywhere on the day itself will be over-priced, over-crowded and over-rated - then go dancing on Tuesday.
Agree entirely with the sentiment - valentines day is just a marketing creation so moving it back or forward a day or two is not the issue. BUT if you feel even the slightest bit guilty about being away from Mrs Gadget on 14/2 then don't do it

TiggsTours
8th-February-2006, 10:55 AM
Dancing. No question....

Addicted? Moi?? :innocent:
Single?


Gadget, you have to dedicate this one special night of the year to your wife, one night off dancing is no real hardship, can't you dance another night next week, at a different venue perhaps?

TheTramp
8th-February-2006, 12:11 PM
Single?
Nope. You?

LMC
8th-February-2006, 12:21 PM
Why can't you show someone how much you love them on any day? - and something close to the 14th would count, IMO.

Presumably Gadget's wife likes him at least a little bit and wants him to be happy. So why can't they have V-Day at the weekend so he can go dancing on the only night of the week he is able to? For a birthday or anniversary, or if Gadget could go dancing another night, then no question that dancing should take second place. But under the circumstances, why not just move the celebration for what is, after all, a minor festival (or should be, ***).

FWIW, my initial slight disappointment at realising that I would be alone on V-Day ("he" is working away) was overcome within about 3 seconds by remembering that I would be able to go to my tango lesson after all :clap: :D I'm so terrible at it that I can't afford to miss one :blush:

TiggsTours
8th-February-2006, 12:43 PM
Nope. You?
In that case, either your girlfriend is as addicted to dancing as you are, or you're lying, and would certainly take one night off dancing to take her out for dinner.

TiggsTours
8th-February-2006, 12:45 PM
Why can't you show someone how much you love them on any day? - and something close to the 14th would count, IMO.

Presumably Gadget's wife likes him at least a little bit and wants him to be happy. So why can't they have V-Day at the weekend so he can go dancing on the only night of the week he is able to? For a birthday or anniversary, or if Gadget could go dancing another night, then no question that dancing should take second place. But under the circumstances, why not just move the celebration for what is, after all, a minor festival (or should be, ***).

FWIW, my initial slight disappointment at realising that I would be alone on V-Day ("he" is working away) was overcome within about 3 seconds by remembering that I would be able to go to my tango lesson after all :clap: :D I'm so terrible at it that I can't afford to miss one :blush:
And why can't somebody show how much they love someone, by giving up something they do every week without fail just one night in the year, to show them how special they are. Taking her out at the weekend to me would read as "I love you, but not as much as my dancing".

Crazy Russian
8th-February-2006, 12:46 PM
What can be more important in the world than wife and children? I guess... NOTHING! Devote yourself to them. That's the best thing you can do.

I think so...

David Bailey
8th-February-2006, 12:48 PM
And why can't somebody show how much they love someone, by giving up something they do every week without fail just one night in the year, to show them how special they are.
Absolutely. But why pander to mass media hysteria, why not do it on, say, the 15th? You can call it your "Special personal Valentine's day" :)

(Plus, you'll get cheaper deals for nights out... :whistle: )

TheTramp
8th-February-2006, 12:50 PM
And why can't somebody show how much they love someone, by giving up something they do every week without fail just one night in the year, to show them how special they are. Taking her out at the weekend to me would read as "I love you, but not as much as my dancing".

Or how about. I love you, which I'll show by my actions ALL of the time. Not just on one day. I don't need to make up for 364 days of "neglect" with one day of over-the-top behaviour.

I also don't believe in Fathers Day, Mothers Day, Grandparents Day, and all other such events, generated by commercialisation. And as for Christmas.....

:flower:

TiggsTours
8th-February-2006, 12:58 PM
Or how about. I love you, which I'll show by my actions ALL of the time. Not just on one day. I don't need to make up for 364 days of "neglect" with one day of over-the-top behaviour.

I also don't believe in Fathers Day, Mothers Day, Grandparents Day, and all other such events, generated by commercialisation. And as for Christmas.....

:flower:
Hmm, yes, and a man (or woman) who shows their appreciation 364 days a year, and never takes their partner for granted at all, would be entitled to a day off, if they existed!

djtrev
8th-February-2006, 12:58 PM
I think you know in your own mind what you must do.

As a matter of interest does V-Day have as much importance to married/couples.I personally think not.
Has it not turned into a bit of a "fun" thing rather than a serious declaration of your love for your partner;in fact to be honest I'm not sure I Know the reason behind V-Day.

Jazz_Shoes (Ash)
8th-February-2006, 01:00 PM
I can't believe you just asked that, is this a jokes thread? Take your wife out for a night on the town, or stay in whatever takes your fancy. Spoil her rotten :flower:

LMC
8th-February-2006, 01:01 PM
...in fact to be honest I'm not sure I Know the reason behind V-Day.
Easy, it's so that businesses can make huge amounts of money selling cheesy or smutty cards, overpriced cheap chocolate, extortionately priced dead vegetation and red fluffy tat to people who are somehow so insecure that they imagine such things provide quality "evidence" of their love.

EDIT: Afterthought: don't get me wrong, I like cards and even cards, chocolate, flowers and tat have their place. It's the over-emphasis on the significance of it all that gets so wearing.

TheTramp
8th-February-2006, 01:14 PM
Hmm, yes, and a man (or woman) who shows their appreciation 364 days a year, and never takes their partner for granted at all, would be entitled to a day off, if they existed!

I'll agree that such a saint doesn't exist. And certainly not claiming to be one :tears:

The point however, was, that one should presumably try to show such appreciation on 365 days, rather than on just one. Which is mainly hyped up for the commercial interests of card shops, restaurants, flower-shops etc. All of whom generally hike up their prices for V-Day.

I find nothing romantic about the way that V-Day has become, what-so-ever. (Though, I will admit to sending a card :blush: )

Lynn
8th-February-2006, 01:37 PM
Going out on Valentines can end up in a busy crowded restaurant, trying its best to look 'intimate' with over hyped expectations of the evening being romantic... Once a dance (not MJ) was on Valentines and my date got round all the problems by going out for an early dinner about 5:30pm (place not packed as everyone else wants to eat later) then going on to the dance. Or as suggested elsewhere having V-day on a different day if you still want to mark the occasion can work.

But the thing that should make your decision for you is what Valentines day means to your wife. If she thinks its an over-hyped marketing ploy then you can go out another night and go dancing on Tues. But if its a significant romantic day for her, then spend the evening with her. Simple.

TiggsTours
8th-February-2006, 01:40 PM
Easy, it's so that businesses can make huge amounts of money selling cheesy or smutty cards, overpriced cheap chocolate, extortionately priced dead vegetation and red fluffy tat to people who are somehow so insecure that they imagine such things provide quality "evidence" of their love.

EDIT: Afterthought: don't get me wrong, I like cards and even cards, chocolate, flowers and tat have their place. It's the over-emphasis on the significance of it all that gets so wearing.
The very first Valentines Day was in 498 AD, I don't believe Clintons Cards has been around that long. The only thing that makes something commercial, is your attitude to it, I personally would not need a card, or roses, or any of the other commercially available articles, but I would want my partner to make a bit more effort on that day, and certainly to at least spend it with me!

TiggsTours
8th-February-2006, 01:41 PM
Going out on Valentines can end up in a busy crowded restaurant, trying its best to look 'intimate' with over hyped expectations of the evening being romantic... Once a dance (not MJ) was on Valentines and my date got round all the problems by going out for an early dinner about 5:30pm (place not packed as everyone else wants to eat later) then going on to the dance. Or as suggested elsewhere having V-day on a different day if you still want to mark the occasion can work.

But the thing that should make your decision for you is what Valentines day means to your wife. If she thinks its an over-hyped marketing ploy then you can go out another night and go dancing on Tues. But if its a significant romantic day for her, then spend the evening with her. Simple.
:yeah:

Tazmanian Devil
8th-February-2006, 01:45 PM
Take your wife dancing she can sit and watch:devil: *no stop it taz*
you can be all nice and teach her to dance :D

Piglet
8th-February-2006, 01:48 PM
I'd surprise Angela with something lovely at 12.01am on Valentine's Day - wake her up if you have to. I can think of some ways I'd like to be woken up at that time of the morning :wink: (Wow - just realised Franck has finally got some new smilies - what a sweetheart - thank you, thank you, thank you Franck if you're reading this - if there's a thank you thread I'll post properly later, but really must get back to work now). And once she's awake you ask her what she'd like to do that night since its such a special time of year and you follow her wishes...

or she might just tell you that she loves you so much she wouldn't want you to miss your dancing - but beware! I wouldn't be thinking of your dancing if I were her :wink:

Just be grateful you have a wonderful partner to be able to spend this lovely day with - I'd have a heart attack if my guy asked to spend Valentine's Day with me, because it has a different meaning for him and although I respect that, I can't think of a way I'd rather be spending that evening than being with him. :awe:

David Bailey
8th-February-2006, 01:57 PM
The very first Valentines Day was in 498 AD, I don't believe Clintons Cards has been around that long.
:rofl:
Close - The feast of St. Valentine was first declared to be on February 14 by Pope Gelasius I in 496. (Source: usual)

I think, reading between the lines, that this feast was declared to placate the Romans for the loss of the feast of Lupercalia (15th Feb) at that time, in the same way that Christmas took over from pagan winter solstice celebrations - i.e. "OK, you can have a party, but just call it a Christian party..."

Although the festival itself doesn't sound like a major loss - a dog and two male goats were sacrificed, a couple of noble lads got splashed in blood, and then people ran around in the skins of the just-sacrificed animals, lashing girls with thongs (and who says romance is dead?) called Februa.

I don't think anyone really knows who St. Valentine was - there are several candidates - but (again from Wikipedia) the first association with romance recorded was in the 14th Century. Still a bit early for Clinton's Cards, but I reckon Interflora was around by then.

TiggsTours
8th-February-2006, 02:00 PM
:rofl:
Close - The feast of St. Valentine was first declared to be on February 14 by Pope Gelasius I in 496. (Source: usual)Wikipedia says 496, the history channel's website says 498, Wikipedia have been wrong before, you know.

David Bailey
8th-February-2006, 02:09 PM
Wikipedia says 496, the history channel's website says 498, Wikipedia have been wrong before, you know.
:eek: HERETIC!!!

Yeah, it's been known, especially with little-visited pages. The reason I assumed 496 was because Gelasius definitely died in November 496 (another source (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06406a.htm)), and he's definitely associated with decreeing that feast (another source (http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=159)).

So :na: :innocent:

Anyway, there's a good forum here (http://www.antivday.com/forum/) for V-Day sceptics... including more history information, and the somewhat depressing statistic that 15% of U.S. women send themselves flowers on Valentine's Day...

Why yes, I am diverting this thread, why do you ask?

stewart38
8th-February-2006, 02:09 PM
This is really sad reading on what has to be the most romantic day of the year :flower:



Easy, it's so that businesses can make huge amounts of money selling cheesy or smutty cards, overpriced cheap chocolate, extortionately priced dead vegetation and red fluffy tat to people who are somehow so insecure that they imagine such things provide quality "evidence" of their love.






But the thing that should make your decision for you is what Valentines day means to your wife. If she thinks its an over-hyped marketing ploy then you can go out another night and go dancing on Tues. But if its a significant romantic day for her, then spend the evening with her. Simple.




The point however, was, that one should presumably try to show such appreciation on 365 days, rather than on just one. Which is mainly hyped up for the commercial interests of card shops, restaurants, flower-shops etc. All of whom generally hike up their prices for V-Day.




Im of to Clintons where I can but 2 cards and get one free

Who ever will be my valentines ,im sure we will have a great evening,its a lovely day :flower:

killingtime
8th-February-2006, 02:13 PM
The only thing that makes something commercial, is your attitude to it

Nah; I'd say the amount of commercial guff associated with it makes it commercial. I dislike Valentine's Day simply because it is an expectation of romance which has to be the least romantic thing I can think of. It makes single people feel bad about their status and couples feel obliged to go out and be packed like sardines in restaurants and the like.

Gadget, if your wife feels like that then maybe she'd be happy for you to go dancing. However in my experience even if someone says that they really don't care about Valentine's day they still appreciate some gesture.

TheTramp
8th-February-2006, 02:18 PM
Gadget, if your wife feels like that then maybe she'd be happy for you to go dancing. However in my experience even if someone says that they really don't care about Valentine's day they still appreciate some gesture.

I'm sure that he could make some suitable gesture in her direction on his way out to dancing.... :rolleyes:

killingtime
8th-February-2006, 02:19 PM
I'm sure that he could make some suitable gesture in her direction on his way out to dancing.... :rolleyes:

:rofl: :rofl: :worthy:

stewart38
8th-February-2006, 02:23 PM
Nah; I'd say the amount of commercial guff associated with it makes it commercial. I dislike Valentine's Day simply because it is an expectation of romance which has to be the least romantic thing I can think of. It makes single people feel bad about their status and couples feel obliged to go out and be packed like sardines in restaurants and the like.

Gadget, if your wife feels like that then maybe she'd be happy for you to go dancing. However in my experience even if someone says that they really don't care about Valentine's day they still appreciate some gesture.


what tosh !!!

lets get rid of christmas and Easter and every other 'event' in the calender

Its all very well saying take you partner for a meal or buy her flowers 365 days of the year

Great thing about Valentines day, you can get away with it once a year :flower: (Ie being romantic)

ANY person i was EVER with went dancing instead of doing something with on Valentines day :mad: :angry:

Gadget
8th-February-2006, 02:27 PM
:yeah:

I'm afraid the answers will not change, no matter how many times you are going to ask the questions... :wink:
Yea - it was an aniversary last time, and I ended up spending it infront of the computer making up some posters for the local community association {at her bequest} :what:
(that's after the usual feeding the masses and entombing them in douvets)

That's why I thought I would seek pearls of wisdom again - it wasn't worth it last time; nothing makes me think that this time is going to be any different. Why not enjoy myself with delightfull company and good music(*) rather than repairing the devistation left from the kids playing all day, cleaning the kitchen, sweeping and mopping livingroom, doing my ironing, ... etc. like I do every other day? {:tears::tears:}

BTW: dinner out is dependant on finances and someone to sit on the kids - both are unlikley to materialise. And in case it passed you I can't simply dance "any time" or on any other night.

(* music depending on Tramp :whistle: )

dee
8th-February-2006, 02:31 PM
Im of to Clintons where I can but 2 cards and get one free



Can i have the free one? :flower:

Cruella
8th-February-2006, 02:34 PM
Why not enjoy myself with delightfull company and good music(*) rather than repairing the devistation left from the kids playing all day, cleaning the kitchen, sweeping and mopping livingroom, doing my ironing, ... etc. like I do every other day? {:tears::tears:}

(* music depending on Tramp :whistle: )
Yeah but if you go out dancing, then your lovely wife has to spend Valentines evening alone doing all these jobs! At least if you both do them then you will have some free time afterwards to spend together.

Donna
8th-February-2006, 02:36 PM
Can i have the free one? :flower:


*Yeah That!* Huh come on bring back the 'yeah that' sign!!

What's S38 going to do with the second one? (Hint hint) :really: I mean can I have it to send to someone else! :D

TheTramp
8th-February-2006, 02:40 PM
ANY person i was EVER with went dancing instead of doing something with on Valentines day :mad: :angry:

Just asked her. And she agreed that I can go dancing.

There was 1 condition.

She has to come too. And has to get at least 2 dances! :rolleyes:

dee
8th-February-2006, 02:44 PM
Just asked her. And she agreed that I can go dancing.

There was 1 condition.

She has to come too. And has to get at least 2 dances! :rolleyes:


Women eh :rolleyes:

ducasi
8th-February-2006, 02:50 PM
I don't think anyone really knows who St. Valentine was - there are several candidates - but (again from Wikipedia) the first association with romance recorded was in the 14th Century. Still a bit early for Clinton's Cards, but I reckon Interflora was around by then. For anyone wondering how to spend St. Val's day, why not visit the most romantic city in Christendom, Glasgow? :flower:

It's a little known fact, but St Valentine's remains are actually buried in Glasgow. :awe:

:love:

TheTramp
8th-February-2006, 02:51 PM
For anyone wondering how to spend St. Val's day, why not visit the most romantic city in Christendom, Glasgow? :flower:

It's a little known fact, but St Valentine's remains are actually buried in Glasgow. :awe:

:love:

Which is why, along with France, Glasgow is the only place in the world to have it's own special 'kiss' :whistle:

WittyBird
8th-February-2006, 02:52 PM
It's a little known fact, but St Valentine's remains are actually buried in Glasgow. :awe:




Keep coming up with interesting facts like that and you will soon be joining her :rofl:

ducasi
8th-February-2006, 02:56 PM
Keep coming up with interesting facts like that and you will soon be joining her :rofl:
Mr Valentine was a guy, btw. :D

(Sorry, is that another interesting fact, "like that"? ;))

dee
8th-February-2006, 02:58 PM
Mr Valentine was a guy, btw. :D

(Sorry, is that another interesting fact, "like that"? ;))


Looks like WB is having a blonde day :whistle:

killingtime
8th-February-2006, 03:07 PM
what tosh !!!

That's the sort of constructive rejection of posts I like to see!


Its all very well saying take you partner for a meal or buy her flowers 365 days of the year

Interesting; because I never stated that. You do have the option of taking them out any of those days though.


Great thing about Valentines day, you can get away with it once a year :flower: (Ie being romantic)

What's "getting away with it" :confused:? I prefer to be romantic to show my affection for someone not because it is dictated to me by a day of the year.


ANY person i was EVER with went dancing instead of doing something with on Valentines day :mad: :angry:

Then why not take the plans you were thinking of doing on Valentine's day and doing it a week afterwards?

WittyBird
8th-February-2006, 03:13 PM
Mr Valentine was a guy, btw. :D

Yeah righto :wink: Next thing you will be saying is God is a bloke :rofl: :rofl:

stewart38
8th-February-2006, 03:30 PM
That's the sort of constructive rejection of posts I like to see!



Interesting; because I never stated that. You do have the option of taking them out any of those days though.



What's "getting away with it" :confused:? I prefer to be romantic to show my affection for someone not because it is dictated to me by a day of the year.



Then why not take the plans you were thinking of doing on Valentine's day and doing it a week afterwards?

Tell the kids christmas day falls on the 25th of Jan as it suits you do do something else on the 25th december , pleaseeeeeeee .In fact tell the kids there is no christmas its all commercial twadle

Its the day for love (and for some on the singles sofa thats all they are going to get for the year :sad: )

There is so much 'crap' going on the world, things like this get stronger. I did go to Clintons so get my twin brother a BIRTHDAY card for tomorrow and its full of Valentines stuff , thats lovely :flower:

Of course its all commercial so what ? so is going on 90% of holidays

Its only tac if you cant afford non tac :yeah: :yeah:

WittyBird
8th-February-2006, 03:36 PM
I did go to Clintons so get my twin brother a BIRTHDAY card for tomorrow and its full of Valentines stuff , thats lovely :flower:

Twin brother's birthday eh thank god for that, cos I thought it was yours, at least I don't have to rush out and buy a card :rofl:

Dreadful Scathe
8th-February-2006, 04:40 PM
Which is why, along with France, Glasgow is the only place in the world to have it's own special 'kiss' :whistle:

Does anyone ever deserve a Glasgae Kiss :) I suppose if you're a Klingon that'd be normal :)

Valentines Day is only celebrated by some though, its not a big deal compared to St.Paddys day :)

LMC
8th-February-2006, 04:42 PM
Nah; I'd say the amount of commercial guff associated with it makes it commercial. I dislike Valentine's Day simply because it is an expectation of romance which has to be the least romantic thing I can think of. It makes single people feel bad about their status and couples feel obliged to go out and be packed like sardines in restaurants and the like.
:yeah:

IMO, V-Day doesn't compare with Christmas and Easter because it's only of interest to a certain demographic - i.e. people over a certain age and usually who are in couples. Whereas Christmas and Easter are "relevant" to people of all ages and status.

As I said, cards and all that stuff *are* nice - but getting so "hung up" on the day just p****s me off and I won't do it.

Dreadful Scathe
8th-February-2006, 04:47 PM
:yeah:

IMO, V-Day doesn't compare with Christmas and Easter because it's only of interest to a certain demographic - i.e. people over a certain age and usually who are in couples. Whereas Christmas and Easter are "relevant" to people of all ages and status.


Christmas yes, but Easter? We got eggs when we were children but thats it, I dont know any adults, except a few religious ones, that bother about easter. Its less of a generic holiday unlike Christmas and New Years Eve/Hogmanay.

ducasi
8th-February-2006, 04:47 PM
Yeah righto :wink: Next thing you will be saying is God is a bloke :rofl: :rofl:
No... God is a DJ! :worthy: (And no, not any DJ that hangs around this forum! ;))

LMC
8th-February-2006, 04:50 PM
... I dont know any adults, except a few religious ones, that bother about easter...
To hell* with the religious significance - TWO Bank Holidays :clap: :clap:

*yes, that was deliberate

stewart38
8th-February-2006, 05:10 PM
:yeah:

IMO, V-Day doesn't compare with Christmas and Easter because it's only of interest to a certain demographic - i.e. people over a certain age and usually who are in couples. Whereas Christmas and Easter are "relevant" to people of all ages and status.

As I said, cards and all that stuff *are* nice - but getting so "hung up" on the day just p****s me off and I won't do it.

agree christmas is significant to children under 16 say 15,000,000 people

V-Day to people aged between 10-100 say 45,000,000 people

so you lost me on that one :sick:

dee
8th-February-2006, 05:17 PM
Christmas yes, but Easter? We got eggs when we were children but thats it, I dont know any adults, except a few religious ones, that bother about easter. Its less of a generic holiday unlike Christmas and New Years Eve/Hogmanay.


Easter is the only day that don't really involve other people. Christmas is just a constant reminder i have no family, and Valentines day is just a reminder im STILL single. Easter is a time i can buy lots of chocolate and stuff myself silly on my own :grin:

LMC
8th-February-2006, 05:21 PM
agree christmas is significant to children under 16 say 15,000,000 people
Same as Easter - TWO Bank Holidays :clap: :clap:

Jurasell
8th-February-2006, 05:26 PM
Yeah but if you go out dancing, then your lovely wife has to spend Valentines evening alone doing all these jobs! At least if you both do them then you will have some free time afterwards to spend together. :yeah:
I'm conjuring up a vision of spending Valentine's evening at home with the (imaginary) kids, while my (imaginary) husband goes out dancing with loads of gorgeous women.

No, it doesn't work for me!

It doesn't have to be a big extravagant celebration, why not a candlelit dinner at home after the kids have been sent to bed. It's simply a matter of spending time together if you can.

And if you really don't want to do that, spare a thought for all those who don't have the option, & can't be with their loved ones on V. night.

J.

stewart38
8th-February-2006, 05:55 PM
:yeah:
I'm conjuring up a vision of spending Valentine's evening at home with the (imaginary) kids, while my (imaginary) husband goes out dancing with loads of gorgeous women.

No, it doesn't work for me!

It doesn't have to be a big extravagant celebration, why not a candlelit dinner at home after the kids have been sent to bed. It's simply a matter of spending time together if you can.

And if you really don't want to do that, spare a thought for all those who don't have the option, & can't be with their loved ones on V. night.

J.


ok who is your hubby on here :whistle:

This came up last year was it the same people ?

TiggsTours
8th-February-2006, 06:05 PM
:yeah:

IMO, V-Day doesn't compare with Christmas and Easter because it's only of interest to a certain demographic - i.e. people over a certain age and usually who are in couples. Whereas Christmas and Easter are "relevant" to people of all ages and status.

As I said, cards and all that stuff *are* nice - but getting so "hung up" on the day just p****s me off and I won't do it.
Depends how you see it, I love alot of people in my life, I don't have a significant other, but that doesn't mean I can't use the day to let those I do love know how I feel. I, personally, will make an effort to contact my parents, my brother, my nephew & neice, and a select few very close friends on V Day, to let them know they are loved, even though I speak to them on a very regular basis anyway, and tell them I love them sometimes too. Its always nice to be told you're loved, even if its not in a romantic sense.

Little Monkey
8th-February-2006, 06:19 PM
agree christmas is significant to children under 16 say 15,000,000 people

V-Day to people aged between 10-100 say 45,000,000 people

so you lost me on that one :sick:

Uh? So you're saying Christmas is only important to kids, and Valentine's to everyone over 10? :confused:

Yeah, I do agree with Christmas being more important for kids, or indeed for families, and it's bloody difficult to get away from the commercialised hype surrounding it. But at least we know why it's being celebrated (some guy was born, etc etc).

But Valentine's?? How can you say that's more relevant to a bigger proportion of the population?? As you can see from this forum, a lot of us think it's complete nonsense. And what gets me is that most of us don't even have a clue about who this Mr. Valentine was, why he's a saint, or why the hell we're celebrating him!

Romantic couples might like V-day. Some singles might use it as an opportunity to express their feelings for someone they've got a crush on. Other singles might be really upset by V-day. And a large proportion of the population don't really care, and very many just get a card or something just because they think it's expected of them.

As for Easter........ Yeah, again a Christian holiday, and an excuse for all of us to gobble lots of egg shaped chocolates, and buy more cheap tat. Hooray!:what:

Nah. I much prefer a spontanious romantic gesture from the one I love, simply because he feels like doing something for me, not because he feels he has to. And most couples will surely have other special days to celebrate anyway? Anniversaries spring to mind as THE day to celebrate your love!

Anyway.......... :rolleyes:

stewart38
8th-February-2006, 06:27 PM
).


Romantic couples might like V-day. Some singles might use it as an opportunity to express their feelings for someone they've got a crush on. Other singles might be really upset by V-day. And a large proportion of the population don't really care, and very many just get a card or something just because they think it's expected of them.




Tell you what go to Clintons Fenchurch street London on the 13th Feb and see all those people who 'dont care'. if you queue for less then 30 mins good luck :rofl: I think there are 10 people serving

get me a restuarant by the Thames on the 14th :rofl:

I have no problem people whinging about christmas easter,valentines day etc etc People can do what they want

Just let those who like these things get on with it :yeah: :yeah:

TiggsTours
8th-February-2006, 06:33 PM
Tell you what go to Clintons Fenchurch street London on the 13th Feb and see all those people who 'dont care'. if you queue for less then 30 mins good luck :rofl: I think there are 10 people serving

get me a restuarant by the Thames on the 14th :rofl:

I have no problem people whinging about christmas easter,valentines day etc etc People can do what they want

Just let those who like these things get on with it :yeah: :yeah:
:yeah: :yeah:
I don't agree with you Stewart, about Valentines being more important than Christmas, but I do agree that, those people who say it is commercial hype are entitled to their opinion, but so are we people who value Valentines Day, and all the other festivals, and enjoy celebrating them. All you who want it to be scrapped, fine don't celebrate it, don't send anyone a card, don't take your beloved out for dinner, or make a special effort to let them know you care, but don't whinge when you don't get a card either, and don't rain on the parade of those who do want to celebrate it! :clap: :awe: :love: :hug:

LMC
8th-February-2006, 06:38 PM
Well, I dunno about anyone else, but I feel chastised.

stewart38
8th-February-2006, 06:40 PM
:yeah: :yeah:
I don't agree with you Stewart, about Valentines being more important than Christmas, but I do agree that, those people who say it is commercial hype are entitled to their opinion, but so are we people who value Valentines Day, and all the other festivals, and enjoy celebrating them. All you who want it to be scrapped, fine don't celebrate it, don't send anyone a card, don't take your beloved out for dinner, or make a special effort to let them know you care, but don't whinge when you don't get a card either, and don't rain on the parade of those who do want to celebrate it! :clap: :awe: :love: :hug:


I never said it was more important !! I can eat a lot more over xmas and there are two bank holidays

I just said V-Day could effect more , sort a joke think really as im over 16 and if i dont get any presents ill go mad

Anyway its nice to see people on one day of the year walking home with flowers (for their mistress) or a big fluffy teady bear for their 'friend'

we all need a hug now and again why not have a national day :hug:

Of course its all hype so what , it beats talking about Hamas for one day

I do also buy flowers on other days

Little Monkey
8th-February-2006, 06:47 PM
Tell you what go to Clintons Fenchurch street London on the 13th Feb and see all those people who 'dont care'. if you queue for less then 30 mins good luck :rofl: I think there are 10 people serving

get me a restuarant by the Thames on the 14th :rofl:

Just let those who like these things get on with it :yeah: :yeah:

And how many of these people do you think are out for meals or buying cards because they feel they have to, rather than because they particularly want to take their loved one out on that Tuesday evening? :whistle:

Of course, a lot of them also want to celebrate V-day, and think V-day is great. Good for them. And for you! It's very nice with romantic people, so please don't stop.:flower: Just don't expect the rest of us 'cynics' to join in.

Although I'm actually really romantic, I'm just (as you've probably guessed by now) very cynical when it comes to commercialised hype......

TheTramp
8th-February-2006, 07:03 PM
Just let those who like these things get on with it :yeah: :yeah:

and don't rain on the parade of those who do want to celebrate it! :clap: :awe: :love: :hug:

Oh come on you two. Give it a break.

People (including me) have expressed their views that it's become a(nother) commercial day. Which we are entitled to do.

But I don't see anywhere anyone telling you that you can't treat the day any way you want. Just that we don't hold it in the same veneration as you do.

I do hope that you have a lovely time. :flower:

Gadget
8th-February-2006, 11:33 PM
we all need a hug now and again why not have a national day :hug:
I'm afraid you've missed it:
"National Hugging Day was founded on January 21, 1986"
:tears:

killingtime
9th-February-2006, 12:57 AM
And how many of these people do you think are out for meals or buying cards because they feel they have to, rather than because they particularly want to take their loved one out on that Tuesday evening? :whistle:

:yeah:

I just feel that by forcing people to try and be romantic you are missing the whole point. I'm not saying that it isn't good to have a day dedicated to it; and maybe that's all the romance some couples get. I'm just saying that I'd, rather than isolate it to a particular day and feel you have to make an effort on that day, try and do something spontaneous because I want to show my partner I care on a day of my choosing. I think it a shame if people think there is a quota to fill and that that should be covered by a fixed date each year.

I'm pretty sure there isn't a right or wrong about this it is just, to me, not a holiday I feel particularly attached to.

Cruella
9th-February-2006, 09:27 AM
I'm pretty sure there isn't a right or wrong about this it is just, to me, not a holiday I feel particularly attached to.
I guess you must feel the same about Mothers and Fathers day too? Like all these things just because it's 'commercial hype' doesn't hurt to have a gentle reminder to all to appreciate your loved ones. It doesn't mean you have to go spending money just be a little more attentive and thoughtful than you would be on a normal day. As a mother, it's heartwarming when my son has made me a card for mothers day, but it is just as lovely when he makes me one on another day just to say he loves me.:love: In our busy lives it is easy for us to forget to tell each other how much we love and think of each other, so whats wrong with a nudge to remind us to do just that.:hug:

LMC
9th-February-2006, 09:53 AM
If it were just a "gentle reminder", I wouldn't mind so much.

As my own mother is dead, I find Mother's Day quite painful actually (and I don't have children to make the day relevant). But that doesn't stop me being pleased for those who have a lovely day because of extra thought/effort/time spent together. I just wish the media would stop it with the in-your-face "you are a terrible bad evil person if you don't participate" cr@p.


But I don't see anywhere anyone telling you that you can't treat the day any way you want. Just that we don't hold it in the same veneration as you do.

I do hope that you have a lovely time. :flower:
:yeah:

Missy D
9th-February-2006, 10:18 AM
If anyone wants to participate in card sending just pm me for my address!:flower:

I am sure i will be receiving a stink from the hamster that day!

The usual coughed up hairball from my cat!

Oh and the credit card bill comes through on the 14th too.

I think i have only ever received one card before and that was from my daughter Amy:flower: She made it herself too:awe:

TiggsTours
9th-February-2006, 11:23 AM
Oh come on you two. Give it a break.

People (including me) have expressed their views that it's become a(nother) commercial day. Which we are entitled to do.

But I don't see anywhere anyone telling you that you can't treat the day any way you want. Just that we don't hold it in the same veneration as you do.

I do hope that you have a lovely time. :flower:
Hence:


those people who say it is commercial hype are entitled to their opinion, but so are we people who value Valentines Day
Don't quote me out of context just to have a go at me.

TiggsTours
9th-February-2006, 11:25 AM
I guess you must feel the same about Mothers and Fathers day too? Like all these things just because it's 'commercial hype' doesn't hurt to have a gentle reminder to all to appreciate your loved ones. It doesn't mean you have to go spending money just be a little more attentive and thoughtful than you would be on a normal day. As a mother, it's heartwarming when my son has made me a card for mothers day, but it is just as lovely when he makes me one on another day just to say he loves me.:love: In our busy lives it is easy for us to forget to tell each other how much we love and think of each other, so whats wrong with a nudge to remind us to do just that.:hug:
:yeah:

LMC
9th-February-2006, 11:34 AM
As Trampy says, no-one has problems with individuals celebrating as they want to. In my very first post on this thread I suggested Gadget did celebrate V-Day - just not necessarily on the day itself. But we have every right to complain about the "hype". You personalised it with this:


...All you who want it to be scrapped, fine don't celebrate it, don't send anyone a card, don't take your beloved out for dinner, or make a special effort to let them know you care ...
Frankly, that read to me like an accusation of "You don't care", which I found offensive. I'm well aware that it's very easy to "mis-communicate" - and I believe that if someone misunderstands me it is not necessarily their fault.

You're saying "don't rain on the parade" of those who want to celebrate. In that case, why don't you stop throwing around little rays of sunshine on those of us who want to be miserable gits about the whole thing being shoved down our throats for weeks on end by newspapers, magazines, newsagents, supermarkets, etc. etc. etc. Sadly, from our point of view, commercialisation is on the "winning" side.

Sheepman
9th-February-2006, 11:43 AM
I think there are a couple of simple (?) questions that Gadget can ask himself and his wife.

1. Which do I love most, her, or dancing?

2. If it is the former, then what would she like to be doing?
If her view is that V-day is a load of commercial nonsense, and any day is as good as another to show your love, then she might be happy for him to be dancing.

I'm eagerly awaiting the result...

Greg

TiggsTours
9th-February-2006, 11:53 AM
Frankly, that read to me like an accusation of "You don't care", which I found offensive. I'm well aware that it's very easy to "mis-communicate" - and I believe that if someone misunderstands me it is not necessarily their fault.

You're saying "don't rain on the parade" of those who want to celebrate. In that case, why don't you stop throwing around little rays of sunshine on those of us who want to be miserable gits about the whole thing being shoved down our throats for weeks on end by newspapers, magazines, newsagents, supermarkets, etc. etc. etc. Sadly, from our point of view, commercialisation is on the "winning" side.
That's all fair enough, but I find people dismissing something that is important to me as just being :

so that businesses can make huge amounts of money selling cheesy or smutty cards, overpriced cheap chocolate, extortionately priced dead vegetation and red fluffy tat to people who are somehow so insecure that they imagine such things provide quality "evidence" of their love.
quite offensive and hurtful too. I celebrate valentines day BECAUSE my life is full of love, not because I'm insecure, and need to seek evidence of it.

LMC
9th-February-2006, 12:03 PM
Now who's quoting who out of context?


EDIT: Afterthought: don't get me wrong, I like cards and even cards, chocolate, flowers and tat have their place. It's the over-emphasis on the significance of it all that gets so wearing.

Fair enough, the bit you've quoted is jaundiced and exaggerated, and doesn't answer djtrev's original question which was the reason behind Valentine's Day. However, I used the word "people" in my post. If you want to take it personally, that's up to you. You used the word "you" in yours, quite evidently addressed at all of those of us (including me) who have said that we're fed up with the hype. The offence is in the wording TT, and I suspect (although I don't know) that that is what Trampy also picked up on.

Anyway, enough of semantics. Celebrate V-Day and enjoy it - I'm sure you will. But no-one needs all the bells and whistles to make it special - it's the people who do that. It's the excess of bells and whistles that we're complaining about, not the principles.

stewart38
9th-February-2006, 01:15 PM
Anyway, enough of semantics. Celebrate V-Day and enjoy it - I'm sure you will. But no-one needs all the bells and whistles to make it special - it's the people who do that. It's the excess of bells and whistles that we're complaining about, not the principles.


sorry think you going of at a tangent here ?

Bells and whistles belong to christmas and santas reindeer

I thought V day as on May 8th ??

:whistle:

ps joking aside , looking at M&S today i do see some peoples point, its in your face everywhere

god knows what it would be like if you lost a love one on Valentines day :sad: a few reminders each year

senorita
10th-February-2006, 10:51 AM
Glasgow is the only place in the world to have it's own special 'kiss' :whistle:

Big head :rolleyes:

senorita
10th-February-2006, 10:54 AM
I'm afraid you've missed it:
"National Hugging Day was founded on January 21, 1986"
:tears:

20 years late ....but here we go everybody :hug: Huggggggggg

Gadget
14th-February-2006, 12:11 AM
I think there are a couple of simple (?) questions that Gadget can ask himself and his wife.

1. Which do I love most, her, or dancing?

2. If it is the former, then what would she like to be doing?
If her view is that V-day is a load of commercial nonsense, and any day is as good as another to show your love, then she might be happy for him to be dancing.

I'm eagerly awaiting the result...

Greg
1. erm... pass. It's like saying do you like "chocolate" or "sunsets"? Both have places in my heart, and depending on the circumstances, one will take precedent over the other. I am not a fawning slave.

2. probably watching TV or sleeping. I am/will get more grief for abandoning her with the kids this weekend while I'm out having fun. :D ... I suppose there has to be some trade off: you can't have all that pleasure without something causing pain. :sick:

As to the result - On Saturday, after the kids had been put down {< BANG >} I cooked some steak, potatoes, cauliflower with a cheese sauce, garlic mushrooms and some made up battered potato & vegie cake. With profiteroles drizzled in chocolate for desert.
... Of course she did point out that I normally cook for her, so it wasn't that special :rolleyes:
Ate tea, snuggled and watched some boring stuff on telly then went to bed.

Net result - see you Tuesday :clap:

Lory
14th-February-2006, 12:19 AM
1. ... Of course she did point out that I normaly cook for her, so it wasn't that special :rolleyes:
Ate tea, snuggled and watched some boring stuff on telly then went to bed.

Net result - see you Tuesday :clap:
Wow, and they said romance was dead? :awe:

Piglet
14th-February-2006, 12:57 AM
Net result - see you Tuesday :clap:

I shouldn't say it but...


EXCELLENT!

What a lovely wife you have :hug: :flower: :hug:
Hugs and flowers are all for her this time :D

Tiggerbabe
14th-February-2006, 06:28 AM
Net result - see you Tuesday :clap:
Profiteroles :drool: - you clever, clever boy :wink:

Have a great night :hug: :D

LMC
14th-February-2006, 09:29 AM
:clap: - so pleased you came up with a "win-win"

Have a great night dancing tonight :grin:

stewart38
14th-February-2006, 10:59 AM
Ive received a Valentines card at work

It is carefully disguised as a 'Official Indemnity Liability proposal form' and there isnt a hint that its a real valentines card

Im sure i can find it in there somewhere :whistle:

someone must love me :sad:

WittyBird
14th-February-2006, 11:06 AM
Ive received a Valentines card at work

And about a dozen of the damn things at home.

I got up this morning to see the nice old postman had left some red envelopes, I picked them up :grin:

All addressed to S38 :mad: So I have burnt them :rofl:

stewart38
14th-February-2006, 11:08 AM
And about a dozen of the damn things at home.

I got up this morning to see the nice old postman had left some red envelopes, I picked them up :grin:

All addressed to S38 :mad: So I have burnt them :rofl:


for the ONLY WOMAN i love on this forum she knows who i mean. This is a BLATANT lie and my solicitor will be issuing a writ :blush:

dee
14th-February-2006, 11:13 AM
for the ONLY WOMAN i love on this forum she knows who i mean. This is a BLATANT lie and my solicitor will be issuing a writ :blush:


:flower: :flower: :flower:

She is just trying to split us up, she is just jealous :hug: :hug:

WittyBird
14th-February-2006, 11:17 AM
:flower: :flower: :flower:

She is just trying to split us up, she is just jealous :hug: :hug:

:rofl: can't type too busy laughing my FAO :rofl:

Lynn
14th-February-2006, 11:21 AM
I got up this morning to see the nice old postman had left some red envelopes, I picked them up :grin: Postal strike still on in Belfast. Not that I care, Valentines being a commercial exploitation...blah, blah, blah....

Of course that didn't mean I am complaining that I got a red rose last night and this morning found a card, chocolates and a lovely bouquet of flowers on my doorstep!:awe: :love: :grin:

stewart38
14th-February-2006, 11:26 AM
:flower: :flower: :flower:

She is just trying to split us up, she is just jealous :hug: :hug:

As I said she knows who she is and I hope will post on here soon :whistle:

WittyBird
14th-February-2006, 11:29 AM
Of course that didn't mean I am complaining that I got a red rose last night and this morning found a card, chocolates and a lovely bouquet of flowers on my doorstep!:awe: :love: :grin:

must've cost you a fortune :rofl:

No seriously that's lovely Lynn, who were they from? :worthy:

Lynn
14th-February-2006, 11:40 AM
must've cost you a fortune :rofl: :rofl:

I wondered why someone was knocking the door at 7:30am - they had gone before I got to it - I thought they had the wrong address or something! :rofl:


No seriously that's lovely Lynn, who were they from? :worthy:The flowers just say 'From one of your many admirers'! :grin: :blush:

The chocolates and card - I recognise the handwriting.

And looks like I won't be going out to salsa tonight (Valentines Black and Red dance) after all...

dee
14th-February-2006, 11:50 AM
As I said she knows who she is and I hope will post on here soon :whistle:


:whistle: :whistle:

Sheepman
14th-February-2006, 01:06 PM
I cooked some steak, potatoes, cauliflower with a cheese sauce, garlic mushrooms and some made up battered potato & vegie cake. With profiteroles drizzled in chocolate for desert. :yum: :yum: Oh Gadget, I would ask you to be my Valentine :love: , but there was no ice cream! :wink:

Greg

under par
14th-February-2006, 02:44 PM
:yum: :yum: Oh Gadget, I would ask you to be my Valentine :love: , but there was no ice cream! :wink:

Greg


Sheepy I would have thought you would have been over the moon it was steak and not LAMB:what:

stewart38
14th-February-2006, 05:04 PM
URGENT

can someone find me a website with what looks like a ORGINAL love poem so i can send it on via e-mail. or give me theres

6 rep points availble :whistle:

LMC
14th-February-2006, 05:07 PM
Try here (http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/showthread.php?p=203587#post203587) :innocent:

drathzel
14th-February-2006, 08:37 PM
Valentines day falls on a Tuesday. Next Tusday. My only night I have free & available to dance. My wife does not dance.

Am I a cad for even having the dilema of going dancing or spending a "romantic" night in?

Any suggestions?

Did you not have this dilema last year too? or was that your wife's birthday?:hug:

thewacko
14th-February-2006, 09:22 PM
Presumably Gadget's wife likes him at least a little bit and wants him to be happy.
Wife . . . likes...him... be happy
ALL IN ONE SENTENCE


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Jurasell
15th-February-2006, 04:59 PM
So, what was the final outcome? And is it all peace, harmony, & love in the Gadget household?

J.

drathzel
15th-February-2006, 05:01 PM
So, what was the final outcome? And is it all peace, harmony, & love in the Gadget household?

J.

He has 3 kids!!!!:rofl:

Ghost
15th-February-2006, 11:00 PM
< Thinks >
Wife's birthday
Wedding anniversary
Childrens' brithdays (x3)
Valentines Day
Christmas
New Year's / Hogmanay
Easter
Other anniversary's - first date (trust me, they remember) etc

All potential missed dancing!

As I suspect this may well happen again, have you considered randomly celebrating days? I quite often give people small gifts "Because it's Tuesday". Just do special things at random for your loved ones and they'll be a lot more tolerant of you celebrating 'special' days on the nearest weekend.

Take care,
Christopher

Gadget
16th-February-2006, 01:28 AM
As I suspect this may well happen again
:rofl: you have no idea :rofl:

Frankly, I'm amazed I manage to pick the lock on the shackles with such frequency :wink:

In the Gadget household, love peace and harmony have been restored to their normal state of disintegration :D
Even if I had skipped the profeteroles, it would have been worth it. :flower: :clap:

{PS: Anyone teaching close blues in Aberdeen this year? I want to learn how to do more interesting stuff without having to 'dissengage' from my partner :whistle::devil::D}

Ghost
16th-February-2006, 02:02 AM
:rofl: you have no idea :rofl:

Frankly, I'm amazed I manage to pick the lock on the shackles with such frequency :wink:
Ain't love grand. :awe:


In the Gadget household, love peace and harmony have been restored to their normal state of disintegration :D
:rofl:
try committing "Random acts of kindness and senseless beauty"


{PS: Anyone teaching close blues in Aberdeen this year? I want to learn how to do more interesting stuff without having to 'dissengage' from my partner :whistle::devil::D}
http://www.ceroc.com/members/videos.htm
about a third of the way down. 3 Blues dvds by Val Forsey and Dave Rokov - Beginner, Intermediate and Advanced. Definitely some "interesting stuff" on there :devil: (just don't let your wife see them - "You're doing that when you're going out dancing???!!!! :angry: :tears: "

Have fun,
Christopher