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stewart38
11th-October-2005, 12:43 PM
Its web based (I have limited IT skills/Knowledge)

So questions

whats the best way to get the domain names (ive checked on site and they appear to be there)

Whats the best way to set up the site ?

How would i get advertising

Re business plan whats the best way to present something to the banks etc

Im assuming there is software that measures the number of hits ?

I appreciate you cant patient a 'idea' would it be possible to patient a concept ?

Ive done numerous google searches and cant find anything on this subject which has probably affected everyone at some stage in their lives ?

Dreadful Scathe
11th-October-2005, 01:19 PM
whats the best way to get the domain names (ive checked on site and they appear to be there)

I use freeparking.co.uk they'll register your domain for you and handle all the aliasing, forwarding of email, web page requests to where you actually host the site etc..you might need to do. A domain (.co.uk) is £4.99 a year and they do not charge you to move your domain elsewhere like some (not that i ever needed to). I use valuehost.co.uk for actual site hosting but there are plenty (possibly cheaper) alternatives, its an ever changing market. Costs me about £3 a month or so for hosting (1gb space, 10 mysql dbs, php, etc..).



Whats the best way to set up the site ?

With a decent wysiwyg tool if you dont know what youre doing.
here is a list of some of them (http://www.free-downloads.net/sub_category/WYSIWYG_HTML_Editors)



How would i get advertising

You could have a look here (http://www.click4profit.com/?source=google). But i wouldnt hold any hope of making much money. Best source of income is to charge a fee to users, but it needs to be worth it ;)



Re business plan whats the best way to present something to the banks etc


They are impressed if you can show a 2 year plan of what is going to happen with your business, allowances for the good and bad eventualities and a nice sheet of numbers saying how much money is going in and out of the business.
* look here * (http://www.businessknowhow.com/bkhstartup.htm)



Im assuming there is software that measures the number of hits ?

Here (http://www.statcounter.com/) is one, theres loads - do a search for "hit counters" in google.



I appreciate you cant patient a 'idea' would it be possible to patient a concept ?

In America yes. Dunno about here. I doubt no one has already thought of it though. ;) Tell me what it is - i promise I wont steal it ;)

Paul F
11th-October-2005, 01:47 PM
I would like to recommend MAMBO CONTENT MANAGEMENT software

www.mamboforge.com

It is an open source web content management system which is freely downloadable and customisable.

It essentially manages all the content on your site eg. news items, pictures, documents, templates and so on.
It runs as a collection of modules and components. If you want a module to give the user the chance to vote on a poll, say, you just download the module and install it. You can do the same with photo galleries, scrolling thingemyjigs, counters, menu bars, newsflashes, secure shopping carts etc.

All the GNU license says is that you cannot claim any restriction on the software ie. you cannot claim you 'own' the whole thing.

All this is done using a friendly graphical user interface. A bit of reading and you will be able to create a dynamic site that practically updates itself. (it does this by allowing you to set publishing dates on news items and things - they then automatically appear and disappear )

Awesome.

I think the jiveaddiction website is generated using mambo (the mod's might erase the following link though)

www.jiveaddiction.com

Lou
11th-October-2005, 01:56 PM
I think the jiveaddiction website is generated using mambo
As is the LeRoc2000 (http://leroc.net/leroc2000/mambo/index.php) website. :whistle:

Chicklet
11th-October-2005, 02:44 PM
I appreciate you cant patient a 'idea' would it be possible to patient a concept ?

It's a medical thing then?:confused:

WittyBird
11th-October-2005, 06:59 PM
It's a medical thing then?:confused:

:rofl: Dr Witty here I concur

El Salsero Gringo
11th-October-2005, 07:07 PM
I appreciate you cant patient a 'idea' would it be possible to patient a concept ?
It's a medical thing then?:confused:I guess we'll just have to wait and see, BOOM BOOM!

Sorry, that was pants.

David Bailey
11th-October-2005, 08:15 PM
How would i get advertising
Well, first you need to very very carefully define your target market; if you don't have a clear idea of who they are (and no, "Everyone" doesn't count!), you're stuffed from the start.

Once you kow who you're marketing to, then you can decide what's the best approach to marketing.


Im assuming there is software that measures the number of hits ?
I use awtstats - it's a freeware package (Linux), and gives a nice set of graphs for hits etc.

"Hits" are generally a fairly poor method of measuring interest, however - since you could have a front page with 100 different files (!), you could artificially inflate your site's value. Unique visitors is probably a better measure - and yes, awtstats does this. It's great.


Ive done numerous google searches and cant find anything on this subject which has probably affected everyone at some stage in their lives ?
Have you looked at the information in relevant specialist newsgroups on Usenet? They won't come up in a normal Google search - although as mentioned elsewhere, they will in a google groups search.

Oh, and please remember your friends (hangers-on) when you're rich and famous. Or just rich, even. :whistle:

bigdjiver
12th-October-2005, 12:50 AM
...I appreciate you cant patient a 'idea' would it be possible to patient a concept ? ...

http://www.cipa.org.uk/pages/advice-clinics

try to make sure that your idea has not already been tried. My first "invention" was for a travelator (like in some airports) that speeded up between the getting on and getting off point. There are lots of ways of achieving this. One would be suitable for an underground line, like the circle line. I got as far as having Dr. Beeching (of the Beeching plan for the railways) commend it, but say he thought he had heard of something similar before. Then I saw an article in the New Scientist about the British Empire Exhibition 1925. At least I found out that it would work. Westinghouse has been taking out patents on developing the idea since the 1930's.

http://www.studygroup.org.uk/Journals/Content/The%20British%20Empire%20Exhibitio1.html

Most of my best ideas are stolen before I even think of them.

Good luck, you are so going to need it.

bigdjiver
12th-October-2005, 01:11 AM
http://www.inventnet.com/

This is an American site, but a lot of the information is relevant, especially the warnings about scam invention patenting and markeing organisations. These do advertise on British TV from time to time.

As for patenting concepts, it does happen from time to time, but whether they will stand up in court is another matter.

e.g "The combover". U.S. Patent #4,022,227

El Salsero Gringo
12th-October-2005, 09:02 AM
http://www.inventnet.com/

This is an American site, but a lot of the information is relevant, especially the warnings about scam invention patenting and markeing organisations. These do advertise on British TV from time to time.

As for patenting concepts, it does happen from time to time, but whether they will stand up in court is another matter.

e.g "The combover". U.S. Patent #4,022,227But bear in mind that the US Patent Office, the UK Patent Office and the European Patent Office all apply different criteria to what can be patented, and those criteria are applied in different orders when considering patent applications.

Also that a patent is only worth holding if you are prepared to throw a lot of money at defending it in court, and pursuing anyone who breaches it; and it can be counterproductive because it means details of your idea have to be disclosed.

philsmove
12th-October-2005, 09:16 AM
On thing you can and should do is register your trading name or trademark
This is more difficult than you might think
It's expensive it is best does using an agent
I can recommend Alfa and omega in Exeter

El Salsero Gringo
13th-October-2005, 11:56 AM
On thing you can and should do is register your trading name or trademark
This is more difficult than you might think
It's expensive it is best does using an agent
I can recommend Alfa and omega in ExeterRegistering a trademark is really really easy, if you're happy that it's original to you. Costs are £200 for one class of good/service, £50 for each additional class. You have to fill in exactly one form and send it to the Patent Office. Instructions are at their website (I think you can download the forms too)

http://www.patent.gov.uk/tm/howtoapply/index.htm

philsmove
13th-October-2005, 01:10 PM
Registering a trademark is really really easy,
http://www.patent.gov.uk/tm/howtoapply/index.htm


This will only cover the UK
For a web service you might want to go worldwide
You might need help with choosing categories

If you are going to a millionaire don’t be afraid of paying for advice

Yes some of it will be a waste of money

The tricky bit is finding trustworthy advisers

El Salsero Gringo
13th-October-2005, 02:48 PM
This will only cover the UK
For a web service you might want to go worldwide
You might need help with choosing categories

If you are going to a millionaire don’t be afraid of paying for advice

Yes some of it will be a waste of money

The tricky bit is finding trustworthy advisersThe most valuable thing I ever learnt after paying for professional advice at the start of a business is that in retrospect none of it was worth paying for.

Of course, that was a valuable lesson in itself.

The other thing I learnt was to find a good accountant (unless you are one) and send them Christmas cards every year.

Clive Long
13th-October-2005, 03:00 PM
The most valuable thing I ever learnt after paying for professional advice at the start of a business is that in retrospect none of it was worth paying for.

Of course, that was a valuable lesson in itself.

The other thing I learnt was to find a good accountant (unless you are one) and send them Christmas cards every year.
Another hoary old chestnut is 50% of what you spend on advertising will be completely wasted - you just don't know which 50% before the money has gone into the bank accounts of the sharp-suited, pony-tailed creatives with names like Justin and Miranda (cynical? moi?)

Clive

bigdjiver
13th-October-2005, 03:14 PM
If a Patent is involved it might be essential to pay for advice. A Patent is an exclusive right granted because the inventor has revealed their idea to the public. If the inventor chats about it to friends it can be held that it has been so revealed. Obviously this is not the case if you are revealing it to a patent professional. If the said friends have given advice it can be held that they are co-inventors. If they patent it first it can be held that they are the inventor. Dyson had one of his first inventions stolen, and Hoover tried to trample over his patents. Making a million is not so easy.

under par
13th-October-2005, 04:03 PM
<<snip good points>>>
Making a million is not so easy.
Keeping the million you've made after announcing it on the forum>>>>imposssible!:innocent: