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Donna
8th-August-2005, 04:34 PM
I'm sure this happens to all of us all the time....but you know when you're dancing away and you happen to notice someone watching you all the time, what do you think they are thinking...or better still, what do you hope they are/aren't thinking??


GOOD POINTS

Hmmm you're sexy
Great dancer
Nice legs
Gorgeous peach :rofl:
Excellent interpretation
Smooth
Fast
Exciting
Extremely entertaining

BAD POINTS

Ugly
No dress sense
You look totally ridiculous
Didn't know whales could dance
Wow how skinny is he/she??!!
Crap dancer


I've gotta shoot now...so if anybody would like to add anymore to the list then feel free to do so. What i'm trying to find out is approximately how many confident dancers there are compared to people who are extremely self conscious...like moi!! :blush:

CJ
8th-August-2005, 04:41 PM
That looks fun...

ducasi
8th-August-2005, 05:32 PM
When I'm actually watching a couple of the dance-floor, I'm usually thinking one of two things...

"Look at the things he's making her do!" :yum: :worthy:
"Look at the things he's making her do!" :really: :angry:

I'd hope that anyone watching me is thinking the first, rather than the second. :nice:

I don't think I'm worth watching though... :blush:

Donna
9th-August-2005, 09:24 AM
When I'm actually watching a couple of the dance-floor, I'm usually thinking one of two things...

"Look at the things he's making her do!" :yum: :worthy:
"Look at the things he's making her do!" :really: :angry:

I'd hope that anyone watching me is thinking the first, rather than the second. :nice:

I don't think I'm worth watching though... :blush:

:rofl: :rofl: Sure you're not that bad....how long have you been dancing?

under par
9th-August-2005, 09:50 AM
Donna,

on most occasions you are being watched because you are doing something right together and looking good.

I accept there will be the odd occasion when you may have tucked your dress into the back of your knickers :D , your wig isn't on straight :whistle: or your lead's flies are undone :tears: .

On these occasions you will notice the difference.

The watcher will be trying to tell everyone else around who will listen to look at you and there may well be a lot of smiles, laughter or the covering of ones mouth with a hand whilst the message is being passed. :rofl: :rofl:

So you can see there is a subtle difference in attitude of the watcher to look out for. :yum:

I'm sure that you are watched cos you are a good looking couple dancing well. :yeah:

Lynn
9th-August-2005, 10:35 AM
Funny, I was thinking about this last night. I hadn't danced for almost 2 months and was at an informal swing evening. I was so pleased to be dancing (and to nice music) that I was playing about, trying things out, and probably looking pretty daft at times! :blush: As it was mainly a crowd I knew I didn't mind too much, but I was thinking later that the salsa dancers and/or swing dancers who were there (visiting) probably thought 'what is she doing?' :blush: :rofl: (Especially at the point where I was experimenting with incorporating a pillar :rofl: :rofl: ).

MartinHarper
9th-August-2005, 10:47 AM
Speculation, but I imagine "Why is he dancing by himself?" is common enough.

Donna
9th-August-2005, 10:52 AM
I accept there will be the odd occasion when you may have tucked your dress into the back of your knickers :D , your wig isn't on straight :whistle: or your lead's flies are undone :tears:

I've actually seen someone who had their dress tucked in their knickers, but i didn't say anything because it was hilarious :rofl: and I'm mean!!! :devil:
However, I don't think my lead's flies have ever been undone....but I'll confess...mine have!!! And on one occasion, I was wearing the wrong top and ended up doing a flash dance. Yep that got a few people staring!! :blush: Now I make sure I take a spare one if unsure about the one I've got on to start with.


I'm sure that you are watched cos you are a good looking couple dancing well. :yeah

Awwww thanks under par. Dunno about dancing well. Steve does but he's been doing it longer than me anyway. Have we met??

under par
9th-August-2005, 10:58 AM
Have we met??


Don't know! :confused:

Have you danced with anyone who is 6'8" tall anywhere recently? :flower:

Donna
9th-August-2005, 11:03 AM
Funny, I was thinking about this last night. I hadn't danced for almost 2 months and was at an informal swing evening. I was so pleased to be dancing (and to nice music) that I was playing about, trying things out, and probably looking pretty daft at times! :blush: As it was mainly a crowd I knew I didn't mind too much, but I was thinking later that the salsa dancers and/or swing dancers who were there (visiting) probably thought 'what is she doing?' :blush: :rofl: (Especially at the point where I was experimenting with incorporating a pillar :rofl: :rofl: ).

I remember when I first started Jive and I was a nervous wreck because everyone else around me at the time were experienced dancers...I spent most of the time thinking I looked pretty daft at times too.

Donna
9th-August-2005, 11:08 AM
Speculation, but I imagine "Why is he dancing by himself?" is common enough.

Huh, I thought it was the other way around actually.

Most men don't even move their feet when they dance and I tend to think, 'you know, she might as well take up pole dancing...plus I think the pole would do a much better job than most male dancers!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Lynn
9th-August-2005, 11:09 AM
I remember when I first started Jive and I was a nervous wreck because everyone else around me at the time were experienced dancers...I spent most of the time thinking I looked pretty daft at times too. I didn't think about looking daft until after I got home! :rofl:

We were suppose to be practicing the swing moves, but there are only so many 'swing outs' (is the correct term?) you can do in a row before you get dizzy and when something like Wade in Water was on I just wanted to play! But if either of the girls who could do swing saw me they probably thought I was just getting the moves all wrong! :rofl:

But its OK, the bouncer was watching (I think the music had drawn him in) and he liked what I was doing :wink: (he even asked about classes!)

Donna
9th-August-2005, 11:16 AM
Don't know! :confused:

Have you danced with anyone who is 6'8" tall anywhere recently? :flower:

Errr nope. I do you remember dancing with one guy though and he was reeeally tall. Was like being on land of the giants. :rofl: I could see people watching then!! I danced through a whole record on my toes!!! OUCH!! :tears:

Donna
9th-August-2005, 11:18 AM
I didn't think about looking daft until after I got home! :rofl:

We were suppose to be practicing the swing moves, but there are only so many 'swing outs' (is the correct term?) you can do in a row before you get dizzy and when something like Wade in Water was on I just wanted to play! But if either of the girls who could do swing saw me they probably thought I was just getting the moves all wrong! :rofl:

But its OK, the bouncer was watching (I think the music had drawn him in) and he liked what I was doing :wink: (he even asked about classes!)

Woo Hoo! Looks like you got yourself an admirer there then!!! :clap:

Lynn
9th-August-2005, 11:31 AM
Woo Hoo! Looks like you got yourself an admirer there then!!! :clap: I think it was the music, not me. He was actually quite interested, a relative danced (I think ballroom) and he knew all about needing different shoes for different floors etc. But said he had two left feet, I said try MJ...

MartinHarper
9th-August-2005, 11:54 AM
"Swingouts" is a correct term. For me, the secret to not getting dizzy is to "spot" on a point on the wall. If I spot on my partner, I fall over. I guess there's such a thing as too much eye contact.


I thought it was the other way around actually.

Ahh, but I really do dance by myself - it's not just a figure of speech. :)

Lynn
9th-August-2005, 12:04 PM
"Swingouts" is a correct term. For me, the secret to not getting dizzy is to "spot" on a point on the wall. If I spot on my partner, I fall over. I guess there's such a thing as too much eye contact. Thanks Martin. Its all pretty new to me, but enjoying it. We were just going round and round as that was the only move we had been shown. There isn't a teacher, it was just some dancers who had danced before (not in NI) showing us a few basics.
Ahh, but I really do dance by myself - it's not just a figure of speech. :) Saw you doing that at Southport. Is that to practice or just a preference - ie wanting to do some solo dancing as well as partner dancing?

I occasionally dance by myself in the upstairs hall at work (eg over lunchbreak) and occasionally have been so busy trying to practice my spins that I haven't noticed someone has come in and are wondering what I am doing!

Donna
9th-August-2005, 12:21 PM
Saw you doing that at Southport. Is that to practice or just a preference - ie wanting to do some solo dancing as well as partner dancing?

Sticking to the subject, that would make the woman feel stupid wouldn't it?? Jive is a partner dance, and both couples should be dancing TOOOGEETHER. As soon as one starts dancing on his or even her own, then it makes the other feel useless and left out plus it gets noticed by people in the class. (Which is what he/she wants, all the attention) Whoever does that obviously doesn't get asked for many dances either plus if that's what they want to do, then they should be doing another style.


I occasionally dance by myself in the upstairs hall at work (eg over lunchbreak) and occasionally have been so busy trying to practice my spins that I haven't noticed someone has come in and are wondering what I am doing!

That's quite funny! :rofl:

Lynn
9th-August-2005, 12:47 PM
Sticking to the subject, that would make the woman feel stupid wouldn't it?? Jive is a partner dance, and both couples should be dancing TOOOGEETHER. As soon as one starts dancing on his or even her own, then it makes the other feel useless and left out plus it gets noticed by people in the class. (Which is what he/she wants, all the attention) Whoever does that obviously doesn't get asked for many dances either plus if that's what they want to do, then they should be doing another style. No, Martin means on his own completely - no partner. Dancing with a partner, each doing their own thing and ignoring one another, I agree isn't good.

LMC
9th-August-2005, 12:49 PM
I occasionally dance by myself in the upstairs hall at work (eg over lunchbreak) and occasionally have been so busy trying to practice my spins that I haven't noticed someone has come in and are wondering what I am doing!

:rofl: - the number of times I have been caught practising my spinning in the work kitchen while I'm waiting for the kettle to boil...

I don't want to know if anyone is watching me other than my lead or I'd be terribly self-conscious - but if someone *does* happen to be watching me then constructive feedback is always appreciated.

Donna
9th-August-2005, 12:57 PM
:rofl: - the number of times I have been caught practising my spinning in the work kitchen while I'm waiting for the kettle to boil...

I don't want to know if anyone is watching me other than my lead or I'd be terribly self-conscious - but if someone *does* happen to be watching me then constructive feedback is always appreciated.

Must confess I wonder off to the loos at work sometimes and practiced some moves...body rolls etc. I remember going off to the loos once at my local dance venue to check in the mirror if what I was doing before looked daft, and somebody walked in on me and gave me quite a strange look. Well we all do it, don't we?? :what:

ducasi
9th-August-2005, 01:10 PM
:rofl: :rofl: Sure you're not that bad....how long have you been dancing? I hope I'm not... Occasionally, maybe after some negative feedback, I have my doubts. :tears: I've been dancing just over 5 months now...

(BTW Donna, I watched Charlie's Angels at the weekend and she does do all her own dancing – you can see it, and the director's commentary backs it up. :grin: She's got the moves. :wink:)

Lynn
9th-August-2005, 01:12 PM
Must confess I wonder off to the loos at work sometimes and practiced some moves...body rolls etc. I remember going off to the loos once at my local dance venue to check in the mirror if what I was doing before looked daft, and somebody walked in on me and gave me quite a strange look. Well we all do it, don't we?? :what:And then there is the fitting rooms... combined temptation of a big mirror, laminate floor, dress/skirt etc you are trying on and which of course you have to 'dance test', and a good danceable song playing...you can get some odd looks! :rofl:

Donna
9th-August-2005, 01:46 PM
I hope I'm not... Occasionally, maybe after some negative feedback, I have my doubts. :tears: I've been dancing just over 5 months now...

(BTW Donna, I watched Charlie's Angels at the weekend and she does do all her own dancing – you can see it, and the director's commentary backs it up. :grin: She's got the moves. :wink:)


You get negative feedback?? And you've only been dancing 5 months?!! They've got some cheek. :mad:

Better try and invite Cameron to your class then for a boogie....good luck. :D

Andy McGregor
9th-August-2005, 02:38 PM
For me, the secret to not getting dizzy is to "spot" on a point on the wall. If I spot on my partner, I fall over. This is completely wrong and makes you look like you're dancing with a spot on the wall. You need to spot on your partner for all sorts of reasons including connection as well as not getting dizzy. And, what's the difference between spotting on your spinning partner and spotting on a point on the wall? :confused:


I guess there's such a thing as too much eye contact.There probably is such a thing, but too little eye contact is much more common.

Donna
9th-August-2005, 02:43 PM
This is completely wrong and makes you look like you're dancing with a spot on the wall.

:rofl:


You need to spot on your partner for all sorts of reasons including connection as well as not getting dizzy.

Well said McGregor! :)

Andy McGregor
9th-August-2005, 02:49 PM
I hope I'm not... Occasionally, maybe after some negative feedback, I have my doubts. :tears: I've been dancing just over 5 months now...Feedback that helps you improve is the best kind of feedback. Receiving a compliment makes you feel good, but it doesn't improve your dancing. If someone takes the time to tell you what's wrong with your dancing they might have suggestions about correcting the fault they've identified. So, the correct response to someone giving you "negative feedback" is to ask them to help you fix the problem they've identified with your dancing.

However, unasked for negative feedback can sometimes be seen as criticism. When I dance with someone who I think I could help I try to remember to ask "would you like me to give you a tip to help improve your dancing?". Sometimes they say "yes" and other times they say "I'm quite happy with the way I dance". Last Monday at Woking I forgot my own rule while dancing with a woman who broke her shoulder on every step back and gave me an almight tug on the arm at the same time. I simply said something like "we'll have a much nicer dance if you stay facing me when you step back" - she gave me a dirty look and walked off* :tears:

*for which I'm claiming 4 points in the refusals/walkoff game as it was in the first quartile of the track :clap:

Sparkles
9th-August-2005, 02:55 PM
:rofl: - the number of times I have been caught practising my spinning in the work kitchen while I'm waiting for the kettle to boil...

Careful! I nearly had a very bad accident once doing exactly the same thing - catching the kettle that's just about boiled with your fingers as you try to steady yourself on a very unsteady spin is definitelty not a good idea :eek: :flower:

S. x

Donna
9th-August-2005, 03:01 PM
Feedback that helps you improve is the best kind of feedback. Receiving a compliment makes you feel good, but it doesn't improve your dancing.

Well it obviously makes you aware that there is an improvement in your dancing which then makes you determined to improve some more.


However, unasked for negative feedback can sometimes be seen as criticism.

I think if anyone decided just to come up to you and tell you what's wrong with your dancing then they've got a nerve cuz maybe they don't give a monkeys what they look like if they are there to socialise. Unless you are asking someone for their opinion then that is fine.



Last Monday at Woking I forgot my own rule while dancing with a woman who broke her shoulder on every step back and gave me an almight tug on the arm at the same time. I simply said something like "we'll have a much nicer dance if you stay facing me when you step back" - she gave me a dirty look and walked off* :tears:

YIKES!!! :eek: I'm not blummin surprised. Bet you felt a right fool when you were left standing alone on the dance floor?? :what:


*for which I'm claiming 4 points in the refusals/walkoff game as it was in the first quartile of the track :clap: :rofl:

LMC
9th-August-2005, 03:31 PM
Careful! I nearly had a very bad accident once doing exactly the same thing - catching the kettle that's just about boiled with your fingers as you try to steady yourself on a very unsteady spin is definitelty not a good idea :eek: :flower:

S. x
Ouch! poor you :flower: Luckily, our work kitchen is big enough for me to stand far enough away from the kettle/microwave/water cooler/table/chairs/door/walls/cupboards - well, you get the picture about my spinning.... :wink: - just need to persuade the boss to install cushioned lino? (actually my spinning is getting better on the whole - couldn't have got worse! - tho' I still get "off" days)

Re: Andy's and Donna's comments on feedback - unless I know them/respect them then negative feedback would not be welcome from someone was just watching :mad: From a partner - if you ask for it, you have to accept that you might not like what you hear. Unsolicited negative feedback definitely has to be "put right"... even then, there might purely be a personality clash - and that's just life. There's a guy I avoid dancing with at one of my regular venues for that reason - he's popular and rightly so, because he is a good dancer, and his feedback is constructive and usually right, etc etc etc - but for some reason, he always puts me on the defensive, whereas others don't.

Donna
9th-August-2005, 03:38 PM
unless I know them/respect them then negative feedback would not be welcome from someone was just watching :mad: From a partner - if you ask for it, you have to accept that you might not like what you hear.

Well yeah that's true. If it is someone I know who is totally honest then I would by all means appreciate their opinions and some people just can't except it if they're are told what they don't want to hear. Plus that's definately what stops that person from improving...is not listening to good advice. Of course it would have to come from an experienced dancer first.

Andy McGregor
9th-August-2005, 04:10 PM
YIKES!!! :eek: I'm not blummin surprised. Bet you felt a right fool when you were left standing alone on the dance floor?? :what: No more foolish than I felt dancing with someone who wasn't following my lead. I actually felt relieved that I didn't have to dance any more with a partner who was yanking my arm every 8 beats or so. This particular partner was so bad I'd chosen between telling her what was wrong with her dancing and telling her I didn't want to dance with her any more because she wasn't even trying to follow my lead. In the end I got both of my options :innocent:

My own opinion about coaching your partners at dance classes is that you should do it if you know what you're doing. And your partner should welcome your help because you're at a class and, implicit in that is the fact that you're there to learn and improve. If someone is willing to give you some free coaching it seems quite rude to turn it down. On the other hand, at a dance you're there to dance and people should be allowed to enjoy the dance at their own level without any pressure to improve or change.

Donna
9th-August-2005, 04:20 PM
This particular partner was so bad I'd chosen between telling her what was wrong with her dancing and telling her I didn't want to dance with her any more because she wasn't even trying to follow my lead. In the end I got both of my options :innocent:

You could have had a third option like...'oh, i really need to go to the toilet'
or something. Mind you, I suppose I would rather have told them what was wrong with their dancing as politely as possible to prevent damage to you or themselves, and if they can't except that, then that is their problem. :cool:

MartinHarper
9th-August-2005, 04:45 PM
You could have had a third option like...'oh, i really need to go to the toilet'

I think it's better to dance with beginners, and (where necessary) give them feedback, than to avoid dancing with beginners, and (where necessary) make up random lies.
Your Morality May Vary. *shrug*

Donna
9th-August-2005, 04:54 PM
I think it's better to dance with beginners, and (where necessary) give them feedback, than to avoid dancing with beginners, and (where necessary) make up random lies.
Your Morality May Vary. *shrug*

Well I suppose you would get a bad reputation if you didn't dance with any beginners. :rolleyes:

ducasi
9th-August-2005, 04:54 PM
Feedback that helps you improve is the best kind of feedback. Receiving a compliment makes you feel good, but it doesn't improve your dancing. If someone takes the time to tell you what's wrong with your dancing they might have suggestions about correcting the fault they've identified. So, the correct response to someone giving you "negative feedback" is to ask them to help you fix the problem they've identified with your dancing. Yes, I agree... Though in the particular case I'm thinking of, she hasn't helped me very much...

Oh well...

Donna
9th-August-2005, 04:57 PM
Yes, I agree... Though in the particular case I'm thinking of, she hasn't helped me very much...

Oh well...

She?? :confused:

ducasi
9th-August-2005, 05:05 PM
She?? :confused:
I'm a bloke, she was my partner. She gave me some useful comments on my dancing.

Where's the confusion? :confused:

David Bailey
9th-August-2005, 07:30 PM
I'm a bloke, she was my partner. She gave me some useful comments on my dancing.

Where's the confusion? :confused:
Donna was probably confused by your avatar, it looks a bit girly to me (pot, kettle...).

Lory
9th-August-2005, 08:30 PM
what do you think they are thinking...


How an earth does 'she' get to dance with a lovely guy/dancer like him :confused:


or better still, what do you hope they are/aren't thinking??

Wow, she looks like she's having FUN! :D :clap:

Barryf
9th-August-2005, 08:37 PM
I occasionally dance by myself in the upstairs hall at work (eg over lunchbreak) and occasionally have been so busy trying to practice my spins that I haven't noticed someone has come in and are wondering what I am doing!

For a few mornings, I practised moves, on my own, looking into a plate glass window in a shopping mall, that is until one morning a security guard popped round the corner and asked what was I doing. :rofl:

Great place to see your whole body moving though.

ducasi
10th-August-2005, 12:00 AM
Donna was probably confused by your avatar, it looks a bit girly to me (pot, kettle...). How could she possibly when she and I have been discussing for the past few weeks how :drool: much :yum: I'd :nice: like :blush: to :o dance :devil: with :D Cameron :na: Diaz? :confused:

Who else thinks my avatar is girly? :( Is this the cue for a poll? :wink:

MartinHarper
10th-August-2005, 09:17 AM
:D Cameron :na: Diaz? :confused:

I'm sure there are girls who would like to dance (or "dance") with her too.

If it helps, names ending in vowels (or a 'y') tend to be taken as female.

ducasi
10th-August-2005, 11:29 AM
If it helps, names ending in vowels (or a 'y') tend to be taken as female.
Yeah, I find the names Tony, Jeffery and Steve to be quite feminine. :rolleyes:

azande
10th-August-2005, 11:33 AM
and Andy and Barry...... :D

Donna
10th-August-2005, 11:59 AM
I'm a bloke, she was my partner. She gave me some useful comments on my dancing.

Where's the confusion? :confused:

Well, 1. I didn't know you were a bloke and 2. Wasn't sure 'she' referred to being your partner. :grin:

Donna
10th-August-2005, 12:01 PM
For a few mornings, I practised moves, on my own, looking into a plate glass window in a shopping mall, that is until one morning a security guard popped round the corner and asked what was I doing. :rofl:

Great place to see your whole body moving though.

Ahem. Now i'd love to have seen that!! :rofl:

Donna
10th-August-2005, 12:05 PM
Donna was probably confused by your avatar, it looks a bit girly to me (pot, kettle...).

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'm sure he'll try and get a picture of cameron as his avatar just now. It really wouldn't surprise me at all!!! :rofl:

Donna
10th-August-2005, 12:06 PM
How an earth does 'she' get to dance with a lovely guy/dancer like him :confused:



Wow, she looks like she's having FUN! :D :clap:

You sure were having fun with Dale in that party after the ceroc champs!! That was hilarious!! :rofl:

ducasi
10th-August-2005, 12:15 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'm sure he'll try and get a picture of cameron as his avatar just now. It really wouldn't surprise me at all!!! :rofl:
Good idea!! :D

Now is Cameron a girl's or boy's name??? :wink:

BeeBee
10th-August-2005, 12:17 PM
:rofl: - the number of times I have been caught practising my spinning in the work kitchen while I'm waiting for the kettle to boil...


:yeah: I prance around whilst my lunch is being nuked in the microwave in the wee room next to our main office. Its got to the stage where my colleagues dont ask what I'm dong anymore :blush: :D

Donna
10th-August-2005, 12:28 PM
Good idea!! :D

Now is Cameron a girl's or boy's name??? :wink:

Er..oh no...me and my BIG mouth. :rolleyes: Oh and er for your info Cameron is a boy's and girls name.

ducasi
10th-August-2005, 12:39 PM
Er..oh no...me and my BIG mouth. :rolleyes: Oh and er for your info Cameron is a boy's and girls name.
Like my new avatar?!?! :D :D :D :devil:

Oh, and to let you all into a secret... Cameron is my middle name. :wink:

Donna
10th-August-2005, 12:49 PM
Like my new avatar?!?! :D :D :D :devil:

Oh, and to let you all into a secret... Cameron is my middle name. :wink:

Yeah?? And mine's Tom Cruise!!! :D

under par
10th-August-2005, 12:59 PM
Like my new avatar?!?! :D :D :D :devil:

Oh, and to let you all into a secret... Cameron is my middle name. :wink:


I think you look lovely in your avatar. :drool:

i don't know what all the fuss is about. :flower: :rofl:

MartinHarper
10th-August-2005, 01:00 PM
names ending in vowels (or a 'y') tend to be taken as female.

Emphasis added for the hard of reading.

ducasi
10th-August-2005, 01:08 PM
Emphasis added for the hard of reading.
:wink: <– smilie added for the hard of humour. :flower:

under par
10th-August-2005, 01:24 PM
I'm sure there are girls who would like to dance (or "dance") with her too.

If it helps, names ending in vowels (or a 'y')TEND TO BE taken as female.

Emphasis for hard of hearing

Donna
10th-August-2005, 01:58 PM
I think you look lovely in your avatar. :drool:

i don't know what all the fuss is about. :flower: :rofl:


This it totally off the subject now. If ducasi want's to talk about his obsession with cameron then this website might be of some use?? :D

www.grohol.com/psypsych/Cameron_Diaz (http://www.grohol.com/psypsych/Cameron_Diaz)

CJ
10th-August-2005, 02:10 PM
And Ducasi's avatar has been added for the hard of......??

Lou
10th-August-2005, 02:19 PM
Emphasis added for the hard of reading.And (unless you're DavidJames) implied at the end.

(Last time I looked, u was still a vowel.... ;) )

Donna
10th-August-2005, 02:21 PM
And Ducasi's avatar has been added for the hard of......??

.....what's down below??? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Donna
10th-August-2005, 04:17 PM
.....what's down below??? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Take it you didn't get that. tut tut tut.