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Clive Long
20th-July-2005, 09:40 PM
I succumbed and bought a copy of The Times on Monday and had a go at Su Doku *.

Tackling these problems seems an intensely tedious activity to me (only slightly less tedious than cross-word puzzle solving) - but then its probably because I haven't entered into a Zen level of consciousness nor achieved Su Doku 3rd Dan that is necessary to really appreciate the art-form.

I'm not saying these problems are easy - far, far from it - it's just that they are tedious in execution and only slightly satisfying when completed.

Anyone a fan of these irritating things?

A reference (http://spivey.oriel.ox.ac.uk/mike/comp2005/index.html)

* A sort-of fill-in-the-missing-numbers-in-a-grid puzzle

Clive

clevedonboy
20th-July-2005, 10:06 PM
http://www.free-sudokus.com/

knock yerself out

Lynn
21st-July-2005, 12:20 AM
I'm not saying these problems are easy - far, far from it - it's just that they are tedious in execution and only slightly satisfying when completed. They can be very easy though - I've only tried one and it was those ones at the back of the TV guide in the Saturday Daily Mail supplement (this week) which is probably the easiest type you can get. Only took a few minutes and it seemed very obvious what should go where. I guess it was a mini one, I suppose I should try a full one!

LMC
21st-July-2005, 12:22 AM
I tried a couple so I could get the "principles" - but can't see the addictive possibilities to be honest.

I'll stick with the ES crossword (although still :tears: :mad: that they've ditched the Metro one)

Lynn
21st-July-2005, 12:25 AM
http://www.free-sudokus.com/

knock yerself out They seem different. The Mail one had shaded boxes and diagonals etc, which probably was why it was easier. Must try some and see how I get on!

qjohn
21st-July-2005, 09:40 AM
~Snip Anyone a fan of these irritating things? Snip~ Afraid so :blush:. One of them sneaked up on me while I was delayed at an airport I'd haven't been able to get away from the little b*****s since. If you really want to get irritated try the Samurai So Doku in the Times on a Saturday, an example of these (known as 'Gattai5' in Japan) is shown here. :flower:

http://sudoku.top-notch.co.uk/gattai5.asp

Purple Sparkler
21st-July-2005, 01:08 PM
I don't do numbers.

Though Kudos to the Japanese for coming up with a way to do a crossword when they can't do crosswords owing to not having an alphabet in the way that we do.

Clive Long
21st-July-2005, 01:19 PM
Though Kudos to the Japanese for coming up with a way to do a crossword when they can't do crosswords owing to not having an alphabet in the way that we do.
But they can.

http://doi.contentdirections.com/mr/mgh.jsp?doi=10.1036/0844283452

(I wouldn't have thought it possible, either). :flower:

But probably Kana is a bit more alphabetic than other scripts (Kanji ???)

Clive

Feelingpink
21st-July-2005, 01:36 PM
I don't do numbers.

...Then just think of them as letters - there's no maths involved. I was introduced to Sudoku on holiday a couple of weeks ago and discovered that The Independent has four a day - a quickie on the back page, plus three graded ones inside ... and last Saturday enclosed a Sudoku magazine :grin: . But by the time I'd got through a few of them, I realised I was bored - or the logic cells in my head are simply tired. It is good for chilling, because it does make you concentrate. Now, back to my client work ....

Feelingpink
21st-July-2005, 01:38 PM
Afraid so :blush:. One of them sneaked up on me while I was delayed at an airport I'd haven't been able to get away from the little b*****s since. If you really want to get irritated try the Samurai So Doku in the Times on a Saturday, an example of these (known as 'Gattai5' in Japan) is shown here. :flower:

http://sudoku.top-notch.co.uk/gattai5.asp

Have you tried the super sudoku in saturday Independent ... with letters as well as numbers to give you a 16-space grid instead of 9! :what: