Fading enjoyment

[Cornish Pixie]

I guess everyone has bad nights but regurlarly at dances i seem to be getting this-
First few dances are amazing couldn't be happier. However after about the first hour they start to get a little boring. Im moving to the beat but i don't fell anything. I don't think its me going off dancing cos i wouldn't enjoy it at all and watch mj videos quite happily.

Does anyone else get this?Maybe its time for a change of venue or a break. How do you know when its time for a break?Everytime this happens i look to the next class and think that next time it will be different so maybe i don't need a break?

Confused! :confused: :confused: :confused:

[baldrick]

I figured this was when I got board with the moves i know, and can remember. So a sit and drink while trying to dredge up some of the variations or other moves that have slipped my limited mind.
Or go grab the best, most challenging dancer in the place and give her lots of room for self expression. Can bring a whole night back to life.

[Graham]

I'm hesitant to diagnose this, especially after all the "It's not my leading" confusion. :wink: However, I imagine the symptoms would match someone who danced every track, and all in a similar way. Is this possible?

[Daniel Sandars]

Happens quite abit as you get confident with this type of dance it all seems a bit flat and mechanical. Whatever kind of dancer you are if your stressed or tired and the atmosphere and music don't hit your spot then the night never really comes to life.

Consider developing your musicality, body styling and improvisations. Find the music you like then find the DJs and dances that work for you.

[philsmove]

However after about the first hour they start to get a little boring.:


Exhausted yes
Bored never

Youth is wasted on our young

[Magic Hans]

I guess everyone has bad nights but regurlarly at dances i seem to be getting this-
First few dances are amazing couldn't be happier. However after about the first hour they start to get a little boring. Im moving to the beat but i don't fell anything.

:yeah: :yeah:

I've had this a few times .... it's like reaching a plateau. Once I'd learned a few moves, and after going to the same venue, dancing with the same dancers for 6 months to a year. Things got a bit samey. No wonder really! Same music, same moves, same dance partners. After my first real weekender, I had a lasting surge of dance energy and enthusiasm .... new moves, new inspiration, and reaching for new challenges.

I fully expect that once I've attained those challenges, dancing won't be quite exciting again, until I've found more new energy and inspiration to seek out and attempt more challenges!

These days I mix it a bit:
Go to a few venues
Do a few weekenders
Take a break for a few weeks (it's amazing how many more different people there are after a few weeks!)
Try out other styles of dancing and ways of expression.

I'm sure different things will work for different people.

Hope this helps!

Ian

[Daisy Chain]

First few dances are amazing couldn't be happier. However after about the first hour they start to get a little boring.

Try dancing as a woman. We never get bored as we don't have to lead. Well, we aren't supposed to lead :whistle:

We never know quite what is coming next :eek:

Daisy

(A Leading Flower)

[DavidB]

We never know quite what is coming next What makes you think that we do?

[baldrick]

Try dancing as a woman. We never get bored as we don't have to lead.
Would love to but who will lead me? :sad:

[Banana Man]

Does anyone else get this?Maybe its time for a change of venue or a break. How do you know when its time for a break?Everytime this happens i look to the next class and think that next time it will be different so maybe i don't need a break?

Confused! :confused: :confused: :confused:

Get the same feeling on a regular basis. :blush: I consider myself fortunate enough to live in London and have a big choice of venues. I make an effort to get out to a variety of venues although I do have my regular haunts, I find the music and people give you a chance to dance a little differently and even to watch and learn.

Maybe it's worth trying something other than MJ as well :eek:, styles and moves can transfer (as a number of ex-ballroom dancers will testify).

IMHO some other dance scenes can be a bit samey, although well worth a visit from time to time. MJ seems to be one of the few dance types that can involve a really wide range of music to suit all tastes some of the time.

All said, I still go back to the same venues in the end. Maybe it's worth going elsewhere to see if you miss where you're at now. :)

[Bangers & Mash]

a common phrase would be "danced out" - often worth taking a night off, or a change of venue every now and again.

I sometimes find I get bored with my own moves during the night and so the dancing tapers off - but that's a good time to sit out and watch other dancers to pick up style and technique and other moves as well.

Having said that - I've just had a brilliant night in Chester and met a couple of other forumites - Gus and Dazzle. Three straight-talking guys all in a row. Dangerous or what :rofl:

[bigdjiver]

For me every evening ends in "I did use that move..." "I did not dance with her ..." And every week the list of new ideas that I have not yet tried grow longer. If that was not enough I looked at the video clips from the US swing championships. Whatever is causing fading enjoyment, I do not think it is the dance, and I cannot believe that you were in a room full of boring people.

[latinlover]

What makes you think that we do?


:yeah: :rofl:

[Gus]

Whatever is causing fading enjoyment, I do not think it is the dance, and I cannot believe that you were in a room full of boring people.Au contraire. I can totaly identify with the points made. I'm not saying that the people are boring but seeing the same group of people week in week out can lead to a situation where one has said all that needs to be aisds, knows all their pet stories and there is a need to move on. As for the dance, well its just another hobby, and most hobbies pale over time. As for myslef, I must admit that I'm starting to find the dancing element boring .. my main attraction to the MJ scene is the teaching, DJing and promoting. Each to thier own. There are many people on the scene who are complete addicts ... there are more that aren't. These are the ones who come and eventualy don't anymore.

[Zebra Woman]

.. knows all their pet stories...

I never tell my pet stories....

keep 'em guessing that's what I say :devil: :devil:

[ChrisA]

As for the dance, well its just another hobby, and most hobbies pale over time. As for myself, I must admit that I'm starting to find the dancing element boring
The thing that makes a hobby interesting for me is when I'm still getting better at it. If I feel I've reached my limit then I tend to lose interest.

I very nearly gave up MJ at the "forever bloody learning and forgetting new moves" stage, because it was sooooooo annoying not to feel I was improving.

I think there need to be goals, challenges, new discoveries to make - and since discovering that musicality can be learned, and that competition dancing adds a massive new angle to it all, I've realised all over again that I'm just an amoeba on the dance evolutionary scale... so there's an almost unlimited amount of stuff still to learn.

:clap:

Chris

PS TWR... check out the West Coast Swing videos (link posted by Dave here (http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/showpost.php?p=94237&postcount=18) ). Start aiming to get that good, search out the dancers, teachers and venues that will help you on the way, and you'll never be bored again :cheers:

[Rhythm King]

It sounds like it's time to try another venue for a change, or even better - go on a weekender and take some of the taster classes, then party the night away with loads of new people. Check the Forum first and you're bound to find some other forumites going, which ever one you choose.
R-K

[Lynn]

...go on a weekender and take some of the taster classes, then party the night away with loads of new people. Check the Forum first and you're bound to find some other forumites going, which ever one you choose.
R-K :yeah:

[Bangers & Mash]

The thing that makes a hobby interesting for me is when I'm still getting better at it.

Looks like I'm gonna find ceroc interesting for quite some time then!

Actually, new faces help to rekindle waning interest - although it's not such a problem in Scotland because so many of the faces are gorgeous :drool:

[BeeBee]

Would love to but who will lead me? :sad:

Balders I'm sure Margaret Rose, Joanne, Jennifer, Linda and me would all gladly lead you. But not all at once . . . well, we could try . . . :rolleyes:

[BeeBee]

For me every evening ends in "I did use that move..." "I did not dance with her ..." And every week the list of new ideas that I have not yet tried grow longer.

:yeah:

Pretzlemeister and I were talking about 'being bored at Ceroc' the other day. We both agreed that we had learnt an awful lot over the past few months, and were not always getting the 'hit' of excitement or the buzz of dancing just so frequently. Thats the problem with the dance addiction, you always want more more more . . . :nice:

Anyhoo, after we had worked out every step actually dance at Aberdeen by Prezlemeister (excluding the other ones he knows but didnt use :wink: :) ) he felt a bit better about it :hug: .

Having spoken to others at Jumpin Jaks, the best way of getting the 'hit' again is to ask more dancers who are better than you and keep challenging yourself :clap:

Beebs :flower:

[Graham]

Having spoken to others at Jumpin Jaks, the best way of getting the 'hit' again is to ask more dancers who are better than you and keep challenging yourself :clap:
Good idea, although I believe that a number of the Tuesday ladies will soon be finding this a difficult strategy to adopt, if they aren't already.

[BeeBee]

Good idea, although I believe that a number of the Tuesday ladies will soon be finding this a difficult strategy to adopt, if they aren't already.

Aww bless, is this a compliment to the Tuesday night Glasgow Girls? :worthy:

[Graham]

Aww bless, is this a compliment to the Tuesday night Glasgow Girls? :worthy:
Gosh, can't get anything past you, can I? :wink: Yes, I am spoilt for choice on Tuesdays these days. :drool:

[BeeBee]

Gosh, can't get anything past you, can I? :wink: Yes, I am spoilt for choice on Tuesdays these days. :drool:

:D Can I book a dance with you tonight then? :clap: Every day's a school day and all that . . .

Beebs

[bigdjiver]

I guess everyone has bad nights but regurlarly at dances i seem to be getting this-
First few dances are amazing couldn't be happier. However after about the first hour they start to get a little boring. Im moving to the beat but i don't fell anything... :tears: another open goal I missed ... :sad:

[Graham]

:D Can I book a dance with you tonight then? :clap: Every day's a school day and all that . . .
Of course! I look forward to it. :grin:

[Andy McGregor]

I found this phenomenon when I was new to MJ. I didn't really know much and got bored with the little I did know well before the end of the night.

My advice is to dance with every woman in the room, especially the ones you don't know or have never danced with outside the lesson. Get variety that way. Make it your mission to find something out about them that you didn't know - which, for me, is usually their name :blush:

[bigdjiver]

I have been thinking about it. It is my policy to give beginners and visitors a dance, so I am always dancing with new partners, and always dancing with partners who have not seen my specialities before. Because it is fresh for my partner the excitement of discovery is always there.

[Daisy Chain]

Au contraire. I must admit that I'm starting to find the dancing element boring ...


That is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sad :tears: If that ever happens to me, please will someone cut off both my left feet?

I can't imagine preferring to do something other than dance...

Daisy

(A Leftfooted FLower)

[Lynn]

I think if you are dancing the same moves with the same people every week it can lose some enjoyment element. We only meet to dance once a month here in Belfast. We can't bring in new dancers (with no teacher) so there is a limited selection of people to dance with - if we met every week it wouldn't be as much fun, but once a month its lovely to meet up and dance, we look forward to it. (And next one is tomorrow night - really looking forward to it!)

[baldrick]

Balders I'm sure Margaret Rose, Joanne, Jennifer, Linda and me would all gladly lead you. But not all at once . . . well, we could try . . . :rolleyes:
A queue of women ready to lead me astray, some birthday offer that. Book me in :drool:


We can't bring in new dancers (with no teacher) so there is a limited selection of people to dance with - if we met every week it wouldn't be as much fun, but once a month its lovely to meet up and dance, we look forward to it.
We are so going to have to go and invade belfast some time soon. Who's coming with me.(Pack your shields and form three orderly queues, Looting, Pillage and Ceroc).

[Gus]

That is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sad :tears: If that ever happens to me, please will someone cut off both my left feet?But there is a whole WORLD of things other than dance. We have so many arts, sports and other entertainments ... its finding time to do it all. This is also the opposite sex and all the mental and physical challenges and pleasures they bring .... isnt that worth giving up dance for?

[jockey]

When this happens to me its usually the music or the dancers failing to inspire me.

What bores me are the MJ or you would say ceroc 'standards' - these are churned out too regularly and are just a substitute for some effort and thinking on the DJ's part. If you dance a lot you need VARIETY!

I have a vast vinyl collection and I have always clubbed b4 i discovered jive - I know there is stuff totally untouched that is suitable; each DJ PLEASE make it a resolution to find one new cracker every time you perform.
I'll even start you off - 'Leader Of The Pack' Shangri Las.

I went to Rockbottoms on Sunday night and danced with a girl called Emma (open showcase champ Blackpool 2004) and Tas (open champ , showcase I think, Britrock, 2004) and they were brilliant. Now I know everyone cant be a champion (logical impossibility) but if someone were to ask of me what I felt the difference between this class of dancer and social intermediate is, and to confine myself to one word, that word is SPEED. Its not to do with the tempo of the music its the classy and effortless ability to complete the move, however fast the music, in plenty of time for the next one. Maybe 'response time' is the phrase. My comp partner has it and so do others.
If there are one or two dancers of this class about and they are in aposition to share their time (they might be doing the cabaret etc and stressed..faaaiiir enough) then they make my night. And if there is something new 'on the turntable' (I'm a flatearther) that rocks even better; if neither, then I'm seriously tempted to try the clubs again; and there are plenty of good ones here in Brighton (Escape, Catfish etc).

This is a purely personal 'post' and I hope nobody is offended - but its the truth.

[bigdjiver]

... I went to Rockbottoms on Sunday night and danced with a girl called Emma (open showcase champ Blackpool 2004) ...
errr - would that be Emma, who runs several venues for Ceroc Central, teaches specialist workshops, choreographs the formation team, been teaching since ....

well if that's all it takes to cure fading enjoyment ...

(Emma of the memorable fur bikini? the leather and the whip? :drool: )

Yes, I can imagine that Emma just might do it ...

[Daisy Chain]

.... isnt that worth giving up dance for?


Ths short answer is No.

The long answer is Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Daisy

[Cornish Pixie]

Cheers for all the help guys. Its greatly appreciated. I do only dance once a week but iv been going to the same since a started (4 months ago). Your posts and watching the stompin cabaret on Stompin in Brighton 2003 (Viktor is my dancing idol!and it is now my life ambition to dance with Nina!) has inspired me to set a challenge for myself. The next thing ill learn is musicality. I have good moves to use in the breaks but never think far ahead enough to use them.
Don't see how im going to get bord now iv seen viktor dance!(must dance smoothly, must not bounce, must dance smoothly, must not bounce!)

Also im off to Warmwell in April!

[Lynn]

We are so going to have to go and invade belfast some time soon. :yeah:


(Pack your shields and form three orderly queues, Looting, Pillage and Ceroc). Is that your riot shields you're packing? :what:

[jockey]

errr - would that be Emma, who runs several venues for Ceroc Central, teaches specialist workshops, choreographs the formation team, been teaching since ....

well if that's all it takes to cure fading enjoyment ...

(Emma of the memorable fur bikini? the leather and the whip? :drool: )

Yes, I can imagine that Emma just might do it ...
Mr Bigdiver - that would be the Emma in question (with the hat - does that seal it?). :yeah:

[Graham]

:D Can I book a dance with you tonight then? :clap: Every day's a school day and all that . . .

Beebs
So what happened to you? :confused:

[mick]

I guess everyone has bad nights but regurlarly at dances i seem to be getting this-
First few dances are amazing couldn't be happier. However after about the first hour they start to get a little boring. Im moving to the beat but i don't fell anything. I don't think its me going off dancing cos i wouldn't enjoy it at all and watch mj videos quite happily.

Does anyone else get this?Maybe its time for a change of venue or a break. How do you know when its time for a break?Everytime this happens i look to the next class and think that next time it will be different so maybe i don't need a break?

Confused! :confused: :confused: :confused:

Come to Newcastle!

[BeeBee]

Come to Newcastle!


And then carry on up the road and come to Glasgow! :grin:

[mick]

And then carry on up the road and come to Glasgow! :grin:
and head north to the beautiful island of Mull (too many Aussies on Skye).

[Gary]

... (too many Aussies on Skye).

:angry: