A Time for Heroes

[Gus]

Well yes I see you've been busy again... It would be nice (for a change) to check the forum and find a normal thread, you know, with no big argument, just everyone sharing good clean fun stuff
Somebody wake me I think I'm dreaming Anyway back to the topic at hand. OK .... I am here but to serve ....

No ... Franck is right ...its pretty easy to get comments flowing if you're just being argumentative (is that not the role of the Official Devils Advocate though) ... so I thought I take this new challenge and start a thead with a nicer theme. Please Support!

Having had time to contemplate why I'm still doing Ceroc after all these years .... it occured to me that part of the reason was those that had inspired me .... and I thought this was a good forum to give some praise where praise is due. Who was/is it for you.

'Boy' Robin & Susannah Both from Ceroc Notts. I'd moved up from the South and was on the verge of giving it all up ... then I saw Robin on stage ... superb and very challenging teacher ... eash class was advanced but he taught it in such a way that you were hooked. Sadly, he has now gone across to the dark side and is lost to us for ever (become a Lindy Hop teacher ... and a pretty good one). Even after Robin's teaching I still felt like I had two left feet, enter Susannah (now a Ceroc teacher down South somewhere), a truly gorgeous lass and even better dancer who for some reason thought I could dance and alwys dragged me on the dancefloor and introduced me round the club. That is what fired me up and kept me going.

Viktor and Lydia I always thought they were excellent dancers .. and after they taught a few workshops for me appreciated just how good they were as teachers. What was even better was when I got chance to know them as individuals ... two of the nicest people you could ever want to meet and got some very intersting vies on dance which forced me to rethink some of my own attitudes .... great fun to have around.

Janie and James Cronin:really: That will surprise a few people. Its well know I've got some major issues with the Ceroc Organisation and hierarchy ... BUT, above all else it was the vision and dedication of 'Mr & Mrs Ceroc' who gave us the dnace and the structure that we all now enjoy. It ain't perfect ... but think what a colder place the world would be without this fantastic social activity. Respect!


OK ... enough of my self indulgence ..... who else has inspired you ... no doubt I'll think of a few more as the weeks progress ... but don't be shy ... SHARE!

[Franck]

Originally posted by Gus
Janie and James CroninI will join you here. One of reasons I am still passionate about Ceroc and even willing to start new nights :really: is because of the inspiration that James and Janie gave me when I first started 10 years ago.
Respect indeed :waycool: I've rarely met anyone with as much vision and most of the things I believe in (re. Ceroc) were inspired by James Cronin.

As an extra bit of great news, James and Janie have just agreed to give up part of their holidays to go to the 10th anniversary party in Glasgow on the 23rd November :nice: and help us celebrate.

Franck.

[DavidB]

Sorry if this reads like an Oscar acceptance speech :tears: :tears:

Vicky Cunniffe
The first poor lady who tried to teach me to dance. She coached the Ballroom Dance club at Imperial College

David & Leslie Elkin
The best cabaret dance couple I've ever seen. They made everything look effortless, and showed me what is meant by dancing through a lift.

Bo & Helle Loft-Jensen
Former World 10-Dance champions, who kept teaching us after they won.

Marcus and Karen Hilton
The nicest couple in Ballroom dancing. They also happened to be the best dancers in the world.

Michelle Kincaid, Robert Cordoba, Kyle Redd, Sara Vann Drake, Mario Robau, Angel & Debbie Figueroa
All professional West Coast Swing teachers, for teaching a couple of beginners from the UK, and showing us just what you can do in a dance. (Anyone who was at Rebel Yell last Saturday will know what I mean)

And finally a third vote for James & Janie. Ceroc was the first dance I could do without thinking, and could just enjoy. (And Janie is still my favourite Ceroc teacher)

David

[Bill]

Well a few names spring to mind for me :D

Both Jenni who taught in Dundee and first suggested I taxi and of course Lorna who has much to do with any improvements I've made over the last 2/3 years - were instrumental in quenching my Ceroc 'thirst' ...thanks :wink:

But as with most dancers there are certain individuals who have helped, often unwittingly;

'Wee' Jan and Susan from my club who helped me with moves and who were as dedicated ( mad) as I was and Susan was my first 'dance partner'.

Rakesh, Jim and Matthew from Dundee - three great dancers who were wonderful at showing new moves and taking time to help if needed. And I still regard Rakesh as probably the best dancer I've seen up here :nice:

Avril who made dancing fun and who helped me through the first couple of competitions and now of course to Fran who has helped me develop further.

Does begin to sound like an Oscar acceptance speech doesn't it :confused: :tears:

and to everyone else who has helped me with my 'addiction' :wink: :D

[Sandy]

Originally posted by Gus
OK .... I am here but to serve ....

Having had time to contemplate why I'm still doing Ceroc after all these years .... it occured to me that part of the reason was those that had inspired me .... and I thought this was a good forum to give some praise where praise is due. Who was/is it for you.


Well Bill I have only been going to Ceroc for 8 months but don't often miss a night of Ceroc. I have to thank Lorna who was the first teacher I ever had (she looked a bit different then!) and then Franck who has his own style and then Bill my first taxi dancer and last but not least all those well mannered guys who danced with me in the first weeks and said nothing about me standing on their toes and missing all their signals! Oh one last thought, watching people like Lisa, Laura, Bill and a few others made me feel "I want to dance like that!". Still hoping!

Thanks

Sandy:wink:

[Will]

Originally posted by Gus
Janie and James Cronin

I Third that. Lovely couple, thanks to whom I've enjoyed Ceroc for 8 years now.

[Jayne]

OK, my acceptance speech...

HUGE thanks to:

My Mum, who successfully convinced an unwilling 16 year old that I *did* want to learn ballroom dancing (sorry the samba routine's not changed in six years though...) :innocent:

My Dad who drove me to my lessons for two years - and then patiently sat through said lessons before driving me home again.... Not to mention all those jives! :grin:

Stuart and Liz Shaw for convincing me that dancing is great fun - I've never looked back since! :waycool:

and everyone who helped fuel my 'addiction' by dancing with me. "are you dancin'?" :wink:

Where are those tissues??...

Jayne:nice:

[Jon]

Cliff Ellis and Penny
Two of the nicest people you could meet. I had my first class with them and the other day Penny recognised me and came over just to compliment me on my dancing as they had been watching me. That comment made my day. Needless to say they are both fantastic dancers and Cliff's way of teaching by exaggerating the way not to do things is just so funny to watch.

Kelly Hudson
All I can say about Kelly is she is an angel. Every time she is on stage the atmosphere of the room is filled with fun and excitment. She is so bubbly, friendly and easily one of the best teachers in London and Kent. She makes an effort to dance with as many people as she can in an evening. If your sitting down you won't be for long.

[Rachel]

Actually, I think my thanks ought to go to ... Gus!

When I started, I was sooo bad at Ceroc for such a long time ... I don't remember ever dancing with the teacher or any taxi dancers (not even sure if they had any taxis then) and I was far too shy to ask anyone to dance. But I do remember Gus as being one of the only good dancers who would actually dance with me. That made no end of difference. Thanks!
Rachel

[Rachel]

Oh and, of course, David B who I met on Saturday night - an absolutely fantastic dancer and brilliant lead - who kindly danced with me and reassured me that my timing is not that bad, after all! Watching him and Lily dancing was just a total inspiration ... I want to dance like that!!!!

Lily and David, if you're ever teaching any workshops, I'll be first in the queue...

[Gadget]

To join in the mutual back slapping;
The people who I admire and watch on the dance floor for inspiration are Bill, Craig (when he's here) and someone that I haven't caught the name of yet {...I'm useless with names: new shoes last week - hence my shoe thread - dances complex moves with an almost bored air about him... prompt?}

[Lorna]

I think that you mean Dave, he has demonstrated for me on occassion? He is lovely to dance with and is especially great with beginners - an all rounder!! :nice:

[Gadget]

Dave - that's the name: I had heard it, I just forgot. Ta.

[Dreadful Scathe]

I can never remember the names of anyone - unless I know them well - scarily so in fact, people seem to know my name at Ceroc when I can't remember theirs :(. I need name tags, bad memory.

Guys- Bill Foreman (makes every woman smile!) Brian from Edinburgh (who once danced jive to 'bohemian rhapsody' in Dundee and made it look good!!!). I also really liked the style of a tatooed teacher I saw once at the Jive Bar in london - wore sleevless shirts, had bouncy style - ace dancer.

Girls - Avril, Lisa, Laura,Elsie, Sheena err.. lets just leave it there..apologies to everyone who I missed, the standard is so high, this thread could turn into another Gwyneth/Halle speech.

Im wondering now if I've danced with the people in here like Filthy Cute and Dancing Veela - not that Im likely to recognise the names...assuming those aren't their real ones :).

oh, thanks to the rest of the Ceroc teachers

:D

[Dancing Veela]

Originally posted by Dreadful Scathe

Im wondering now if I've danced with the people in here like Filthy Cute and Dancing Veela - not that Im likely to recognise the names...assuming those aren't their real ones :).
:D

Are you dancing on Sunday?????? If so then we'll find out then won't we???? Assuming you'll let us know who you are too DS???

[Dreadful Scathe]

yes Ive entered lucky dip AND intermediate - the fact that www.ceroc.info says there are only 15 entries for intermediate scares me a bit !! eek ... the pressure!!

See you there - Ill be the one standing at the side trying to look inconspicuous like i normally do. hmm i really should ask more people to dance, i usually wait for them to come to me - never turned down a dance yet though :).

[Bill]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dreadful Scathe
[B]yes Ive entered lucky dip AND intermediate - the fact that www.ceroc.info says there are only 15 entries for intermediate scares me a bit !! eek ... the pressure!!

But you can just have fun and savour the moment :grin:

I'm very disappointed that there are so few entries for some of the categories :tears: :confused: what happened to all the keen dancers up here????

Looks as if there's only 2 Double Trouble entires and I happen to know one of them hasn't actually met up to practice yet :what:
and only 3 in the Advanced.

I did suggest months ago that being on a Sunday would make it difficult for many folk from England so perhaps once it's established next year will attract more folk and trying to book it for a Saturday will really help I think. But..........every event has to start somewhere and tehre should be a good crowd there to cheer everyone on.

[Dreadful Scathe]

don't you have any work to do Bill ? :)

lets play 'forum tag' you're it....


er..sorry not much to do just now :)

[Grant]

Originally posted by Dancing Veela


Are you dancing on Sunday?????? If so then we'll find out then won't we???? Assuming you'll let us know who you are too DS???

And how will we identify you, Dancing Veela??

:confused: :confused:

Grant

[Dancing Veela]

Originally posted by Grant


And how will we identify you, Dancing Veela??

:confused: :confused:

Grant

Ok when I've finalised my outfit I'll let you know and you can find me - after all surely I will be the only woman dressed in black????? This was my point of starting the Scottish Champs thread - I know so few of the people on the forum by their names - I may have danced with quite a few of you in the past - it would be fun to meet up at a certain point in the night in Forum Corner or something???????

I'm only dancing in the Lucky Dip - nobody asked me to dance in anything else :tears:

[Grant]

Originally posted by Dancing Veela


it would be fun to meet up at a certain point in the night in Forum Corner or something???????


That's a good idea.


Originally posted by Dancing Veela

I'm only dancing in the Lucky Dip - nobody asked me to dance in anything else :tears:

I'm surprised an outspoken woman like yourself waited to be asked :wink:

Grant

[Dreadful Scathe]

Forum Corner isnt a bad idea - Franck can have seperate awards for most posts, most obscene post, most interesting post, er.. FC could do well :). Theres only a few of us really who have aliases and it will be such a let down when anyone meets me :). Does Franck mention the forum at his classes? as it seems to have grown quite a bit in the last few months.

As Bill said - only 3 in advanced catagory ! I hope that improves - a guaranteed place for all there but i imagine most of us want to see the advanced dancers - and even if those 3 are all Scottish entries, theres no way theres only 3 advanced couples in the whole of Scotland...or are they all qualified Ceroc teachers and can't enter?

[Dancing Veela]

DS - I moved this to the Scottish Champs thread!!! Just incase Franck missed it here!!!!

As for me waiting to be asked Grant.........if anyone out there is still looking for a partner for the Intermediate - either sex will do (but I'm pretty rubbish as a man!!!!!!! - Mind you many may say that about my being led too!!!!)

Oh maybe I should put out an add on the other thread?

[Grant]

Originally posted by Dancing Veela

Oh maybe I should put out an add on the other thread?

It's worth a try. I hadn't realised there were so few entries so far. Part of the attraction for me was the thought of watching the best dancers in action.

Perhaps Franck might want to take entries on the day. Then you could look for some willing soul when you get there.

:cheers:

Grant

[filthycute]

Originally posted by Dancing Veela


it would be fun to meet up at a certain point in the night in Forum Corner or something???????



Yeah we definately need a meeting point....hows about the bar? :wink:

Anyone sees me on Saturday night i'll be the ginger swinger in the red flarey trousers and red floaty top (well thats what i'll be wearing for the first half hour anyway) :D come and introduce yourself if i don't recognise you :D

filthycute x x

[Tiggerbabe]

Originally posted by Dreadful Scathe


Girls - Avril, Lisa, Laura,Elsie, Sheena

:D

Now I'm intrigued - who are you????????????????? I have danced with you and I 've no idea?:sorry :confused:

[Dreadful Scathe]

:D

I'll see you on Sunday :) might as well maintain the mystery for a few more days

[Dancing Veela]

Originally posted by Dreadful Scathe
:D

I'll see you on Sunday :) might as well maintain the mystery for a few more days


I agree DS - the only thing is I'm not sure how many Scottish men from the forum will dance with me after I reveal who I am :(

We do need to sort out this Forum Corner and a time to meet up - Franck any suggestions for the time we could meet up? You'll know the schedule for Sunday!

We could put a notice up on the Results board about a time to meet up and the place once we've seen the venue and the schedule?????????

[DavidB]

Originally posted by Dancing Veela
We do need to sort out this Forum Corner Wouldn't that form a clique???

[Grant]

Originally posted by Dancing Veela


Franck any suggestions for the time we could meet up? You'll know the schedule for Sunday!


Perhaps Franck could give us a break from dancing at some point by introducing the forum members to the whole gathering as in "Dancing Veela please come forward now and reveal your true identity". As you step onto the floor we could all then clap, cheer, boo or hiss as the mood takes us. Only prolific contributors need to be introduced of course - nobody who has made as few postings as me would need to get up!
Think of the interest it would generate in the Forum.

How about it Franck?

:cheers:

Grant

[Jayne]

I think a forum corner is a great idea - it would only be a clique if we all danced with each other. Maybe we could al wear red carnations and meet under the clock? :innocent:

Jayne
:nice:

[Gus]

Originally posted by Jayne
I think a forum corner is a great idea .... Maybe we could al wear red carnations and meet under the clock? :innocent:

Jayne
:nice:

Think carnations would be too hard to spot ... need something really noticeable ..... say, for instance, bright orange trousers.:grin: Hey ... theres a coincidence, I seem to have a pair handy for just such an event.:waycool:

[Dreadful Scathe]

got a spare pair ?

Nigel (from 'Nigel & Nina' :) ) was wearing bright orange trousers at the weekend there - must be these proffessional dancer types that wear 'em :).

'Hands up if you post to forum' will do on the day maybe :)

[Grant]

Originally posted by Gus


need something really noticeable ..... say, for instance, bright orange trousers.

At the Edinburgh party night recently I instantly realised who you were when I saw the orange trousers even though I had never seen you before. :)
Do you really want to give that up by having us all dress the same way?? :what:

:cheers:

Grant

[Gus]

Originally posted by Grant


At the Edinburgh party night recently I instantly realised who you were when I saw the orange trousers even though I had never seen you before. :)
Do you really want to give that up by having us all dress the same way?? :what:

:cheers:

Grant

Well the real reason is so that I could merge into the background! the truth is they are extremely comfortable trousers to dance in .. but a bit ostentatious.

[filthycute]

Originally posted by Gus


Think carnations would be too hard to spot ... need something really noticeable ..... say, for instance, bright orange trousers.:grin: Hey ... theres a coincidence, I seem to have a pair handy for just such an event.:waycool:

Orange trousers??? On me?? With my hair! Jeez i would look even more tangoed than you :what: :yum:

filthycute x x

[Bill]

Originally posted by Dreadful Scathe
got a spare pair ?

Nigel (from 'Nigel & Nina' :) ) was wearing bright orange trousers at the weekend there - must be these proffessional dancer types that wear 'em :).

'Hands up if you post to forum' will do on the day maybe :)


ah so you were at Pitlochry then......................well that narrows it down ;) ...............what a pity I didn't actyally think of a name for myself. Bit late now though. Always was a little slow on the uptake :sick: :tears:

But I do have a feeling that I know who Veela is..........:wink: :grin: and if I ask nicely I might be led charmingly through a dance:wink:

[filthycute]

ok I'm thinking the most recognisable person at the event is going to be Gus so if you (for instance Jayne) track him down he can introduce you to me, then i can can introduce you to Sheena and the rest of the MAd. squad i know....you can then introduce me to Graham and the rest of your MAd. crew......hey presto! :D:D The forum is united :D

Just gotta find The orange or flashing trousers :D

filthycute x x

[Grant]

Originally posted by bill foreman

I ask nicely I might be led charmingly through a dance:wink:

so she does still lead then :wink:

Grant

[Gus]

Originally posted by filthycute

Just gotta find The orange or flashing trousers :D

filthycute x x

Apologies in advance but the flashing tousers will be packed for the NZ trip. Fear not I may waer my other pair of club trousers which are also somewhat visible ... and possibly in hideous taste .... but what the heck.:p

[Dancing Veela]

Originally posted by Grant


so she does still lead then :wink:

Grant

Only if asked to!!!!!!!!!

And you know Grant - I am such a shy, retiring wallflower I would HATE Franck to do that!!!!......no seriously I would - I'd hate all that booing and hissing - I never wanted to be the baddy in any of the school plays because they get boo'd !!!!!

[Dancing Veela]

Originally posted by bill foreman
But I do have a feeling that I know who Veela is..........:wink: :grin: and if I ask nicely I might be led charmingly through a dance:wink:

Oh you think you know who I am?????? How did you work that out then???? Loads of people know about your red shoes!!!!!! :grin:

Anyway I will absolutely look forward to a dance with you - preferably with you doing the leading........and without dropping me on my head!

[Bill]

and since when have I dropped women on their head :confused: :eek:

But I'll try if you ask reallllllllllly nicely:D

[Sandy]

Originally posted by Dancing Veela



We do need to sort out this Forum Corner and a time to meet up - Franck any suggestions for the time we could meet up? You'll know the schedule for Sunday!

We could put a notice up on the Results board about a time to meet up and the place once we've seen the venue and the schedule?????????

I'm all for that! See you on Sunday or Saturday night??

Sandy
:cheers:

[Dancing Veela]

Originally posted by bill foreman
and since when have I dropped women on their head :confused: :eek:

But I'll try if you ask reallllllllllly nicely:D


Oh but Bill - you have dropped me on my head!!!!!! Back in those bad old days when I threw myself into drops - actually there you go - Gus was right - let the girl fall on her head often enough and she will learn!!!!!!

I always ask reallllllllly nicely for anything I want - it's the best way to get it:devil:

[Fran]

I was just filling in some time - well skiving actually and was looking at some of the threads started before I joined, there is another similar and more recent thread going at the mo but this brought me a smile Dreadful Scathe - thanks
Brian from Edinburgh (who once danced jive to 'bohemian rhapsody' in Dundee and made it look good!!!).

oh, thanks to the rest of the Ceroc teachers

:D I was Brian's dance partner to that record at dundee! although I would not have been the memorable one compared to Brian:nice: - it was such fun and have never danced it again, so I will always remember it - in a very posiative way!!!
I had not been dancing very long and loved the way (and still do) that Brian interperts the music - mentally and physically challenging in a great way. He was my first jive dance partner
( actually at a leroc class) and I had not a clue what I was doing, but loved every minute of it and he was very patient!!

I found ceroc 2 weeks later and the 1st person I ever danced with at my 1st ceroc party was this chap from Aberdeen called Bill............. and hes not bad either!!!! :nice: :yum: :devil:

fran

[Dreadful Scathe]

Originally posted by Fran
I was Brian's dance partner to that record at dundee! although I would not have been the memorable one compared to Brian:nice: - it was such fun and have never danced it again, so I will always remember it - in a very positive way!!!

I remember it well - and apologies for not mentioning you specifically but the topic was about Male dancers I look up to. I doubt there are many here who could dance well to Bohemian Rhapsody - leadings OR followers :) It can be done though - so maybe theres a possible extra catagory for next competition - 'difficult music' - i suggest 'Anarchy in the UK' and Strauss's 'Blue Danube' as some other possibles :)

[Graham]

Originally posted by Dreadful Scathe

'difficult music' - ..... Strauss's 'Blue Danube'

As this is in 3/4 time, I would have put it in the impossible category for ceroc?

[Dreadful Scathe]

you're ok with 'anarchy in the uk' though :D

[Fran]

Originally posted by Dreadful Scathe


I remember it well - and apologies for not mentioning you specifically but the topic was about Male dancers I look up to. I doubt there are many here who could dance well to Bohemian Rhapsody - leadings OR followers :) It can be done though - so maybe theres a possible extra catagory for next competition - 'difficult music' - i suggest 'Anarchy in the UK' and Strauss's 'Blue Danube' as some other possibles :)


well, Brian loves nothing better than a "challenge" as he calls it. And belive me we have danced to some challenging music in our time - not really at ceroc but at a few other venues . :nice:

I was'nt looking for recognition :nice: - it just brough a me a big
smile when i saw it, so thanks.:grin:

fran

[Jayne]

Originally posted by Graham


As this is in 3/4 time, I would have put it in the impossible category for ceroc?

errrm, not quite... Tom Jones' Delilah (sp?) is 3/4 time but just about cerocable - or was I slightly drunk that Vegas night???

Jayne

[Graham]

Originally posted by Dreadful Scathe
you're ok with 'anarchy in the uk' though :D
I'm ok with classifying it as difficult! :grin: Perhaps Fran could persuade Brian to give it a whirl. :wink:

[Graham]

Originally posted by Jayne
errrm, not quite... Tom Jones' Delilah (sp?) is 3/4 time but just about cerocable

Ok, this I have to see. I've just been trying to mentally dance to it (unlike you I'm not prepared to investigate how long it'll take my colleagues to get on the phone to the funny farm) and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to ceroc to it. However, I'm happy to admit that you're a better dancer than I am, and I'm even prepared to follow your lead to it - I'll be sure to bring the CD tonight!



Originally posted by Jayne
- or was I slightly drunk that Vegas night???


I couldn't possibly comment (or at least not until after the above demonstration :wink: )

[CJ]

What's difficult about "Anarchy.....?"

It's in 4/4 (i.e. 4 beats in the bar) and has a good tempo. Surely just comes down to taste, no?

On the subject of, erm, challenges... occasionally @ party nights I'll play "It's Oh So Quiet,! by Bjork. Some 3/4 time, some 4/4 time. Gives beginners a rest and the intermediates a challenge!!:devil:

[Stuart M]

Originally posted by Jayne

errrm, not quite... Tom Jones' Delilah (sp?) is 3/4 time but just about cerocable - or was I slightly drunk that Vegas night???

I suspect, Graham, it was as much to do with my lead as with the amount of alcohol consumed.:sorry

Another song by "Jones the Voice", describes Jayne, drink and Vegas pretty well but it's more than my life is worth to continue this train of thought... :p

99! D'oh!

[Fran]

Originally posted by Ceroc Jock

On the subject of, erm, challenges... occasionally @ party nights I'll play "It's Oh So Quiet,! by Bjork. Some 3/4 time, some 4/4 time. Gives beginners a rest and the intermediates a challenge!!:devil:

I think that is such a fun song to dance with - well it is if your partners up for it!! otherwise it can be a bit of a painful experience - for them!!:nice: :nice:


I'm ok with classifying it as difficult! Perhaps Fran could persuade Brian to give it a whirl.
Graham

Gosh he would be up for anything and all I do is follow ..........well that is not quite true. I try to follow and Brian along with Bill hide my mistakes and are very patient with me.

Fran

[David Franklin]

Originally posted by Ceroc Jock
On the subject of, erm, challenges... occasionally @ party nights I'll play "It's Oh So Quiet,! by Bjork. Some 3/4 time, some 4/4 time. Gives beginners a rest and the intermediates a challenge!!:devil:

Bryony and I used this track for the airsteps championships at Beach Boogie - it has great variations of pace and some nice breaks. It's nice to have both fast and slow sections without having to chop two tracks together.

It was interesting how our plans changed over time - originally nearly all the aerials were to the "quick bits" - by the time of the competition all the hard work was in the slow sections.

I always think "Take Five" would be a good challenge myself...

Dave

[Lou]

Originally posted by Ceroc Jock
On the subject of, erm, challenges... occasionally @ party nights I'll play "It's Oh So Quiet,! by Bjork. Some 3/4 time, some 4/4 time. Gives beginners a rest and the intermediates a challenge!!:devil:

Ok - would some expert help me figure out how to dance Modern Jive in 3/4 time.

[Jayne]

Originally posted by Lou


Ok - would some expert help me figure out how to dance Modern Jive in 3/4 time.

You find a track where the first beat of the bar is strong (Stuart, which type of waltz was it? Russian? Austrian??) and you dance on that beat, so instead of dancing alternate beats (as in normal ceroc) you dance every third beat - the music is usually fast enough to get a slow ceroc out of it.

Give it a go!

Jayne
:nice:

[Lou]

Originally posted by Jayne
You find a track where the first beat of the bar is strong and you dance on that beat, ....you dance every third beat - the music is usually fast enough to get a slow ceroc out of it.


Aha...

So - say you had Golden Brown by the Stranglers ...

{Beat}/Gold/en
Brown,/{Beat}/ {Beat}
Text/ure/like
Sun,/{Beat}/ {Beat}
{Beat}/Lays/Me
Down,/{Beat}/ {Beat}
With/my/mind
She/runs/ {Beat}

....you'd dance on the bold. I'd love to try it & see how tricky it is...


Cheers! :grin:

[Dreadful Scathe]

aargh....far too technical breakdown - just flail your feet and arms about like i do :)

[CJ]

Originally posted by Lou


Aha...

So - say you had Golden Brown by the Stranglers ...

{Beat}/Gold/en
Brown,/{Beat}/ {Beat}
Text/ure/like
Sun,/{Beat}/ {Beat}
{Beat}/Lays/Me
Down,/{Beat}/ {Beat}
With/my/mind
She/runs/ {Beat}

....you'd dance on the bold. I'd love to try it & see how tricky it is...


Cheers! :grin:

Considering Golden Brown has a four bar 13 beat repeating pattern, er, fairly tuff.

Dum, di, di
Dum, di, di
Dum, di, di,
Dah, dah, dah, dah.

So close, Lou. Could have been a great example.

I know, I KNOW... Taxi for CJ!!

[Lou]

Originally posted by Ceroc Jock

Dum, di, di
Dum, di, di
Dum, di, di,
Dah, dah, dah, dah.

Doesn't it switch to that time during the instrumental part? I'd almost swear on JJ's bass that I had the pattern of the verse correct. i'm off to find an MP3 to check!

Yup - sad bunny me too.

[Lou]

Ha! I just happen to share my office with a punk drummer, who authoritatively tells me that the verse is in 3/4, and the instrumental part is in 8/13 (or 13/8). So we're both right, and it still remains bloody difficult to (C/L)eroc to.

[CJ]

:cheers:

[Dreadful Scathe]

whatever happened to leon trotsky ?

[Graham]

Originally posted by Dreadful Scathe
whatever happened to leon trotsky ?
Don't think I know that one - who's it by?

[Dreadful Scathe]

follow up line to ceroc jocks post :)

[CJ]

Well, we ARE in a thread with heroes in the title discussing Stranglers' songs.

What else is an anorak to do?

Well done DS!!:wink: ANORAKS ALL ROUND!!!!!!!!!!

[Gadget]

Originally posted by Dreadful Scathe
whatever happened to leon trotsky ?
He got an ice-pick
that made his ears burn.

Can I get a blue one with toggles and a fold-away hood ?