Why do you go to Ceroc?

[Gus]

In my official capacity as Devil's Advocate I seem to have stirred up a little debate about the limits or otherwise about Ceroc teaching from stage. A sub-thread emerging from this is what are we trrying to achieve ..... and this requires knowledge of why people go to Ceroc in the first place.

Being of an enquiring mind, thought I'd ask the thronging masses exactly that. Remember ... your vote(s) count!

[Lou]

What about for the exercise? It's a darned site more enjoyable than the gym! :what:

[Franck]

Originally posted by Lou
What about for the exercise? It's a darned site more enjoyable than the gym! :what: I have now added that option :nice:

Franck.

[Gus]

Originally posted by Franck
I have now added that option :nice:

Franck.

Given that we used to promote our club on the fitness aspect I should have remembered that.

Well six votes in and still NO-ONE fancies the teachers! Considering the embarresment of riches you have with Lorna, Mari, Lisa and Elaine ... I would have thought at least someone would have owned up....:wink:

[filthycute]

Originally posted by Gus

Well six votes in and still NO-ONE fancies the teachers! Considering the embarresment of riches you have with Lorna, Mari, Lisa and Elaine ... I would have thought at least someone would have owned up....:wink:

Well i'm not voting for fancying my teacher!!!!!

Elaine, your beautiful hun, but i just don't look at you that way :wink:

filthycute x x

[Heather]

:sick: Me neither Mel !!!!!:D :D Can't say I fancy any of them either!!!!!!:sick:
Now if we had a Brad Pitt lookalike............
:wink: Well I can dream can't I?
:cheers:
Heather

[william_ceroc]

Sorry Im too busy trying to dance to notice what the instructors look like
Sad isnt it

william

[Heather]

Don't believe you !!! Liar!!!!!:wink:
:cheers:
Heather

[CJ]

So why is there an option for fancying teacher but not oine for VM, taxi or DJ?

Well? Huh?

Mmmph.

[Franck]

Originally posted by Ceroc Jock
So why is there an option for fancying teacher but not oine for VM, taxi or DJ? It probably just goes without saying that everyone does! :really: :nice:

Franck.

[Curtain]

I've just had a look at the results of this particular thread and had to laugh at one of the statistics. 0% for Entertainment.

So nobody wants to be entertained eh? Well, that's a relief and probably just as well I suppose. The pressure is finally off.

I can now sit back and read my book in peace without stressing about what to play next. Sorry, I should probably clarify that last point. I don't read while working, just during the class. I promise.

More to the point, is Ceroc HQ aware of this fact? Dull teachers all round please!!

Food for thought?

[Gus]

You know that feeling when you do some research to prove your point ... and it does exactly the opposite...

Well, I started this poll in the belief that most people weren't that bothered about how good they got at the dancing bit ... especially considering some of the scathing attacks on the more competitive dancers in our fold. So ... I'm a bit surprised that the majoriy of the respondees DO want to be good dancers...

If this is the case, then how does Ceroc accomodate this? Does this advancement come from more Advanced Ceroc courses (few and far between at the moment) or by bringing up external instructors (..... and I know what Ceroc HQ would say to that :reallymad :reallymad ).

Maybe, forming 'self-help' groups may help ... persoanly I improved my dancing a lot by trying to pratice a lot more with three specific dancers and get honest feedback from my peers ... and boy was some of it honest.:sick:

OK ... so the debate turns back on itself ... if people want to advance .. do they have to form a secret society so they won't be persecuted by the 'social' dancers or should they strut their stuff openly in the search for the ultimate dance?

[Gus]

Originally posted by Curtain
So nobody wants to be entertained eh? Well, that's a relief and probably just as well I suppose. The pressure is finally off.

I can now sit back and read my book in peace without stressing about what to play next. Yeah but thats what you do anyway oh suntanned one ....

what worries me is that only half the people like the music .... surely that is a slur against your preofesional pride!

PS Good to have you back ... things far too quiet.

[Bill]

Originally posted by Curtain
I've just had a look at the results of this particular thread and had to laugh at one of the statistics. 0% for Entertainment.

So nobody wants to be entertained eh? Well, that's a relief and probably just as well I suppose. The pressure is finally off.Oh yeh !!!!!!!!:wink: With some of the songs you've been playing lately not much chance of a whole night of entertainment is there ????:confused: :D

Have to bring along my playlist for some more ( infact any :rolleyes: ) of that bluesy stuff. And now so many have been to H's workshop there are lots of dancers now keen to try out those new funky moves.

So ........ Vem Vet, Jools Holland etx

[Curtain]

Originally posted by bill foreman

Have to bring along my playlist for some more ( infact any :rolleyes: ) of that bluesy stuff. And now so many have been to H's workshop there are lots of dancers now keen to try out those new funky moves.

So ........ Vem Vet, Jools Holland etx

Where would I be without Bill eh? My biggest critic and all time favorite requester. I'll try and get some more blues and see how it goes. However, a little while ago a guy actually came up to me and said, "Will you stop playing Bill's stuff".

How I chuckled. I realise I can be a little on the musically bizarre side sometimes, but I mean well.

[Franck]

Originally posted by Gus
So ... I'm a bit surprised that the majoriy of the respondees DO want to be good dancers...You seem to be ignoring the fact that maybe, just maybe, the majority already feel like they are becoming great dancers at Ceroc nights :wink:
Great dancing is in the eye of the beholder, and in my eyes, they are right!

There should not be a split between "wannabe great dancers" and "Social dancers", everyone has many reasons to go to a Ceroc night, and most of the time, all these reasons mix happily.

Franck.

[Gus]

Originally posted by Franck
You seem to be ignoring the fact that maybe, just maybe, the majority already feel like they are becoming great dancers at Ceroc nights :wink: Franck.

Franck ... as Official Devils Advocate its pains me to do this ... but think that you're right ... missed the obvious. I shouldn't equate dancing progression with the need to go outside Ceroc ... because for the majority you are quite correct that that isn't needed.

Forshame ....

[Franck]

Originally posted by Gus
Franck ... as Official Devils Advocate its pains me to do this ... but think that you're right ...I just thought I'd save this for posterity, just in case you decided to edit it at a later stage :grin: :D

Seriously though, I think (in fact I know) that it is possible to become a very good dancer without stepping into any other class apart from Ceroc (including workshops / parties and other special events).
This does not mean that it is the best thing to do, and I would always advocate people experiment with what's on offer, if only to realise how good Ceroc is :D

A dance that is only feeding from itself is bound to grow stale and un-imaginative... :sad:

Learning to dance is a permanent "work in progress" kind of thing, you never quite get there! As soon as you learn of discover something new, you realise how much more you could add to your dancing to improve it just that little bit more :nice:
Anyone who thinks he is there (ie a perfect dancer), probably needs to take a quick reality check :wink: and find out how much more there is to learn still...

Franck.

[nessie2611]

Originally posted by Gus
Does this advancement come from more Advanced Ceroc courses (few and far between at the moment) or by bringing up external instructors (..... and I know what Ceroc HQ would say to that :reallymad :reallymad ). I have debated this subject with many people and I am under the impression that most people are in agreement, :wink: Ceroc is a great product and we all love it, but we do get to a stage where Ceroc has opened up the doors of learning to dance and we all want to progress and possibly try some other forms of dance. :really:
Instead of having to go and find the aforementioned forms of dance, does it not make sense to provide your loyal Ceroc members the opportunity to try other dances in the comfort of their own club occassionally. Some members have been forced out into the big wide world in search of different dance schools to try many styles of dance on offer (I admit I am one of those people):sorry sometimes these nights out clash with the Ceroc venue they usually attend and so Ceroc are losing out big style. Ceroc should be confident enough in their product to be able to open the doors to other forms of dance for the enjoyment of their members knowing that Ceroc will win out as it is one of the most flexible forms of dance and doesn't rely on a particular style of music before you can dance.

Love Nessie x

[Franck]

Originally posted by nessie2611
Instead of having to go and find the aforementioned forms of dance, does it not make sense to provide your loyal Ceroc members the opportunity to try other dances in the comfort of their own club occassionally.

Ceroc should be confident enough in their product to be able to open the doors to other forms of dance for the enjoyment of their members knowing that Ceroc will win out as it is one of the most flexible forms of dance and doesn't rely on a particular style of music before you can dance.First of all Nessie, welcome to the Ceroc Scotland Forum! :nice:
I would like to pick up on the 2 points you make above. First of all I agree that Ceroc should provide as much as possible for its members, in the comfort of their regular club (or at their local workshop studio). Most Cerocers would rather not have to start a new class from scratch, and if we can offer more within our current framework, then we should. The comments I mad in this (and other) threads re. learning with other teachers and other dances was directed at a very small minority(5% if that?) who want to learn very specific techniques to take their dancing to the highest possible level.

However, it is not as simple as picking the current "trendy" dance and starting to teach it at our classes... Most other dances rely on (sometimes complex) footwork and heavily choreographed routines :sad: This flies in the face of everything Ceroc has trying to achieve in the last 20+ years... My belief is that for a new Style / dance to be successfully included in Ceroc it has to fit the Ceroc philosophy and "easy to learn" criteria.
As a result, we have included a lot of different styles over the last few years (Latin, Blues, hip hop, lindy, etc...) but each time it has only been successful when an experienced Ceroc teacher succeeded in capturing the essence of what the other dance was and updated it to be able to teach it using the Ceroc "easy to learn" method!

This filtering process will slow down our ability to offer new styles, but will guarantee that when we do, Cerocers will not be disappointed.
Ceroc have raised teaching / learning expectations dramatically, which might explain why so many people are disappointed when they visit other dance classes (after learning Ceroc).

This is why I take issue with your second point. Ceroc does not have a "confidence" problem, quite the opposite, we know we are the best :wink: We know we can blend (pretty much any) musical / dance style within our current classes, but it does not mean we should sacrifice our principles or the quality of our nights!

Franck.

[Gus]

Originally posted by Franck
This is why I take issue with your second point. Ceroc does not have a "confidence" problem, quite the opposite, we know we are the best :wink: We know we can blend (pretty much any) musical / dance style within our current classes, but it does not mean we should sacrifice our principles or the quality of our nights!

Franck. AHHH NOOOOO ... I find myself having to agree with Franck twice in one lifetime ... AND sticking up for Ceroc ..... truly a sad day:tears:

The Ceroc product is truly outstanding ... very accesible to the majority of the active population, giving high degree of satisfaction and (relatively) very cheap. It introduces people who can't/haven't danced (like myself) to prper dance and in some cases inspires them to take up other dance forms. It is also highly adaptable ... and this is where I maybe differ from Nessie's views.

I think that the Ceroc dance as taught needs to stay the same but it is more for the individual to develop his/her own style to incorporate other styles. If you look at the more experienced dancers they have all developed their own twist on ceroc, be it using hip-hop, blues. lindy, latin ... etc.

So .... I think my point is that the Ceroc product itself is excellent and should remain as the core. Outside that workshops are good (who provides them is another question) but I think the drive for change will always come from the individual dancer.

I think its an entirly seperate question to ask if the way that Ceroc is run is helpfull ... on that point I'm entirely in agreement with Nessie ... but I don't think its appropriate at this point to rant and rave against the way that the Ceroc product is let down by the Ceroc HQ organisation.

[nessie2611]

Thank you Frank for your comments, I also agree that Ceroc is one of the best set up teaching formats I have tried and I was not disputing that. I would never suggest that you compromise your teaching or give a lesser class, what I was suggesting is that maybe if Ceroc would allow franchisees to import the teachers from other related forms of dance such as Salsa or Lindy just for a night on perhaps freestyle occassions for a basic lesson it may be beneficial to some of the regular members of the venue. :D

I am one of the people who has ventured into other forms of dance because of my love for Ceroc and the fact that it has opened up the thought pattern of learning more dancing because I enjoy it so much, which has got to be a good thing:grin: I would love to be able to take part in a one-off class at my regular venue for say West Coast Swing or a bit of Lindy. It would save me the trouble of having to go somewhere else to try these things. After all it can only improve your dancing ability.

:wink:

Nessie

[Franck]

Originally posted by nessie2611
I would never suggest that you compromise your teaching or give a lesser class, what I was suggesting is that maybe if Ceroc would allow franchisees to import the teachers from other related forms of dance such as Salsa or Lindy just for a night on perhaps freestyle occassions for a basic lesson it may be beneficial to some of the regular members of the venue. :D Ah, I see what you mean :nice: The idea sounds good in theory but in practise would fail on a number of points.
First of all, most other dance classes "just don't get" how to make learning to dance easy and accessible, and this would be a big let down for the majority of Cerocers who are used to "instant" progress and gratification at Ceroc nights.
Obviously, you have reached a point where you are ready for more challenges and want to learn more (discipline / technique/ etc...), but, and this is where I agree with Gus (whoops :wink: ) this readiness comes from each individual. Not everyone will be ready to handle Lindy footwork, and in fact most people (experienced or not) will have no desire to!
On the other hand, if Ceroc teachers spend time learning Lindy or Cuban Salsa etc... and they draw from their Ceroc training experience and manage to make some of the moves fit the Ceroc ethos, then everyone (I mean 90% of Cerocers here) win! The 10% who want more will be thankful to Ceroc for introducing them to partner dancing, and giving them an unparalleled enthusiasm and enjoyment of dancing, but will move on to become semi-pro dancers or dance teachers themselves (this has happened so many times in my experience, though of course, they don't always admit how much they owe to Ceroc in the first place :wink: )

Franck.

[Alexis Beuraud]

Can't go to Ceroc any longer :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears:

[Dancing Veela]

OH LOOK SO I CAN EDIT IT AFTER I'VE SUBMITTED IT - EXCELLENT - MUST GO BACK TO ALL THOSE ONES I WROTE ABOUT LACK OF SEXY MEN IN SCOTLAND BEFORE I GET KILLED ON SUNDAY!!!!!!



Hmmmm - if you decided to reply to something , started a reply and then changed your mind (I'm a woman - it's allowed!!!) because you decided you really shouldn't say what you were going to say.......how would you go about it?????

[Dreadful Scathe]

say it anyway and plead insanity

[Jayne]

There are pixies in the computer.

[Graham]

Originally posted by Dancing Veela
Hmmmm - if you decided to reply to something , started a reply and then changed your mind (I'm a woman - it's allowed!!!) because you decided you really shouldn't say what you were going to say.......how would you go about it?????

Provided you haven't actually hit the submit button, you can just abandon the post by hitting the back button on your browser, or going to a new internet page. If you HAVE hit the submit button you can click on the edit button on the post to edit the content (to be something completely different) but not delete it. Franck can also delete posts altogether if he chooses.

[Dancing Veela]

Originally posted by Graham


Provided you haven't actually hit the submit button, you can just abandon the post by hitting the back button on your browser, or going to a new internet page. If you HAVE hit the submit button you can click on the edit button on the post to edit the content (to be something completely different) but not delete it. Franck can also delete posts altogether if he chooses.

thanks Graham (and DS - I'm not insane - yet!!!!! and Jayne- the pixies are everywhere) decided to go try out the edit thing - very good :grin:

[filthycute]

Originally posted by Dancing Veela
OH LOOK SO I CAN EDIT IT AFTER I'VE SUBMITTED IT - EXCELLENT - MUST GO BACK TO ALL THOSE ONES I WROTE ABOUT LACK OF SEXY MEN IN SCOTLAND BEFORE I GET KILLED ON SUNDAY!!!!!!


There's no sexy men in Scotland???? Are you walking around with your eyes closed woman!!?!?!?

What about....erm.....
Or maybe....um....
Oh you can't forget....nah...

Damn! Will get back to you on that....:yum:

filthycute x x

[filthycute]

Only kidding guys! :D

There's tonnes of sexy men in Scotland....
DV, i can't vouch for your end of the world but surely you've encountered Bill, Scot, The 'Lovely' Roy, Brian, Obi, John S, Sherwin (our very own Bombay Bad Boy) :wink: to name but a few.....
And of course Franck, the fairest of the land (did you see him in his shorts???) :wink:

Think we should be asing ourselves "Where are all the un-sexy men in Scotland"??
Obviously not in Ceroc!! :wink:

Sorry any guys i missed out...you know your all sexy Scots :D

filthycute x x

[Dancing Veela]

Originally posted by filthycute
Only kidding guys! :D

There's tonnes of sexy men in Scotland....
DV,


I'm not going back to the 'what makes a man sexy?' thread!!!!! All the guys you mention and more are fantastic dancers - but sexy???????

oh no wait a minute - I want a dance from ALL of them on Sunday - so yes you are right FC - they are VERY sexy!!!!!!!!!!!:yum: :devil: :wink:

[filthycute]

Originally posted by Dancing Veela



I'm not going back to the 'what makes a man sexy?' thread!!!!! All the guys you mention and more are fantastic dancers - but sexy???????

oh no wait a minute - I want a dance from ALL of them on Sunday - so yes you are right FC - they are VERY sexy!!!!!!!!!!!:yum: :devil: :wink:

Ok i tried convincing her guys but no joy.....
Just give all her dances to me on Sunday :D:D

filthycute x x

[Dancing Veela]

Originally posted by filthycute


Ok i tried convincing her guys but no joy.....
Just give all her dances to me on Sunday :D:D

filthycute x x

No guys - come prove to me just how sexy you are!!!!!!!!!!!:devil:

[filthycute]

Originally posted by Dancing Veela


No guys - come prove to me just how sexy you are!!!!!!!!!!!:devil:

Yeah go on guys.....
no need to prove it to me....i already know :wink:

filthycute x x

[Jon L]

I am coming to the opinion that I would rather go to venues where people will say Hi to you, and take an interest in how you are getting on, and vice verca:nice:

If there happens to be good dancers around then great. If there are alot of beginners it may not be ideal, but I can live with it,

I think certain venues where the social side is eclipsed by the Clique brigade, Hotshots and Hangers on people should be avoided.

As for the question of the opposite sex, well I can honestly say I never walk on the dance floor with the deliberate intention of meeting suitable members of the female species :grin: Doing so is a big mistake and can make you very unhappy

[Gus]

Originally posted by Jon L
I can honestly say I never walk on the dance floor with the deliberate intention of meeting suitable members of the female species :grin: Doing so is a big mistake and can make you very unhappy

.....are you saying that meeting members of the female race can make you unhappy fullstop?:wink:

[Jon L]

No. deliberately searching for a relationship (i.e. that's what you have come to the evening for), results in disappointment usually :blush:

[TheTramp]

Well. I was going to click on the 'I go because I fancy the teacher' option.

But I've just come from Perth!!

(Sorry Franck :na: )

Steve

[Chris]

Aren't a lot of these reasons/questions chicken and egg?:na:

[bigdjiver]

Originally posted by Gus
..... and this requires knowledge of why people go to Ceroc in the first place.

Part of the equation for me is that I like to entertain, even if it is just an audience of 1. Exhibitionism is a motive for some.

Artistic self-expression is definitely a motive for some too. MJ can be an art-form.

I also like to help people learn, and love to see the pleasure and the confidence that people can gain through Ceroc. A lot of people come to Ceroc after a bad relationship, and it can help to transform them.

[Tazmanian Devil]

Dancing for me is a passion. I love dancing, Meeting new people, checking out new venues etc. after 2 meer years of dancing I'm hooked. Have been dancing every night since Camber :wink: does this mean im a danceaholic? :confused:

[ChrisA]

Originally posted by Tazmanian Devil
Dancing for me is a passion. I love dancing, Meeting new people, checking out new venues etc. after 2 meer years of dancing I'm hooked. Have been dancing every night since Camber :wink: does this mean im a danceaholic? :confused:
Yes. However, you've a way to go yet before you get to "obsessed" ;)

I came back from Rock Bottoms and was dancing for 10 of the following 11 nights...

Not sure how sensible it was, though. I've cut it back just a touch since then. :waycool: RB tends to have that effect on me...

Chris

[TheTramp]

Of course Chris, you've a way to go yet before you get to "obsessed" ;)

My 'record', is 46 nights/days dancing in a row :what: Is that what 'obsessed' is? :D

Steve

[Tazmanian Devil]

Originally posted by ChrisA
Yes. However, you've a way to go yet before you get to "obsessed" ;)

I came back from Rock Bottoms and was dancing for 10 of the following 11 nights...

Not sure how sensible it was, though. I've cut it back just a touch since then. :waycool: RB tends to have that effect on me...

Chris


My main problem with getting out is my work I have to do Late shifts at some point during the weeks but have managed to swing it just lately. Aint it just a shame that people need caring for 24/7 or I would be out every night!!:wink:
Have never been rock bottoms so will have to try it out some time :kiss: :hug:

[ChrisA]

Originally posted by TheTramp
My 'record', is 46 nights/days dancing in a row :what: Is that what 'obsessed' is? :D

Gasp.... :really: :really: :really:

I guess it is...

I bet even the McGregster can't beat that. :devil:

Chris

[Forte]

Why isn't there a category for..."I go because I like dancing" why does it have to categorise attainment and ability.

[ChrisA]

Originally posted by Forte
Why isn't there a category for..."I go because I like dancing" why does it have to categorise attainment and ability. Hmmm...

Mostly I think, it's pretty much a given that we like dancing. But liking to dance isn't enough to explain why we choose Jive.

We could choose ballet, jazz, tap... ballroom, etc, etc.

The question might be:

"What is it about the combination of the dance, the music, the social scene that attracts you to modern jive (and Ceroc in particular, if you like) rather than (or as well as) other types of dancing?"

There's no single answer to this - different aspects will appeal to different people and at different times.

For myself, I wouldn't dance if the people were a bunch of miserable buggers, nor would I dance if I couldn't get a feeling of achievement from it. The complexity makes it interesting; I also love to teach, so teaching it within my limits of competence adds a lot to the kick I get. It also brings with it a broad spectrum of emotional stuff too - from very good when it all goes well :nice: , to very bad :tears: when it doesn't.

So I get a complete mental, physical, emotional and occasionally even spiritual workout from it all.

Certainly reminds me that I'm alive :D :D :waycool:

Chris

[Forte]

As usual I agree with what you just said. (Is it because we have the same birthday?)

[ChrisA]

Originally posted by Forte
Is it because we have the same birthday?
I dunno. Possibly. Are you a typical Scorpio?

Not that I think astrology is anything more than a way of parting suckers from their money, you understand :wink: :waycool: :blush:

[Chris]

My answer was 'to meet friends' - that was the most honest answer I could give, though I'm less sure it was in the spirit of what was asked . . .

When I occasionally come out of my rabbit hole to ceroc in Scotland there has to be a very special reason. I can see my friends (as opposed to dance buddies) outside of ceroc.

This last week I went on Tuesday and Thursday (Monday I was organising a social night, nothing to do with dance) as someone who is a friend of mine was leaving the country (probably permanently) and this would be her last week at Ceroc (those are the only nights in Edinburgh, and she doesn't dance in Dundee). We caught up for lunch before that, but I met her through dancing and wanted to 'ceroc' with her before she left.

Time before that was a practice half hour before going down south to stay with my friends for a weekend which included dancing.

Time before that was when Amir Giles was up (I probably don't know him well enough to call him a close friend but going along to say hi was a good enough reason).

Time before that was at the beginning of the year - reasons then were more along the lines of it being very socially enjoyable and easy to get there.

When I go dancing in England it's cos I love dancing. If I want to get better, I either go to someone's classes I can relate to 95% (instead of say 5%) or I go to somewhere that has learning to dance well as the objective, rather than the social side as the main objective.

I'd say I'm fairly obsessive about dancing, but not obsessive about ceroc (I love good wine but aren't obsessive about beaujolais, even if that's all that's on sale.)


:hug: :hug: :hug:

[Chris]

I think by and large James Cronin got it right - "The average Briton does not want to look stupid, but can't be bothered with dance classes. Ceroc is a breath of fresh air for guys, as it's easy to learn, looks cool and is supported by short lessons before the club begins."

If so many people really want to dance 'really well' (and are prepared to drill rather than 'have fun') why isn't there more demand for (and provision of) style classes or 'dance class' style instruction (as someone described NZ - "this is what you do with your body - do it")?


As to Franck's point about some dancers moving on to dance seriously (or teach) and then not acknowledging Ceroc, I don't think that's quite fair. :what:

Some people learnt to dance and came across Ceroc later and adapted their dance skills; other people's first experience of dancing was Ceroc, and then they started developing skills more seriously.

Most of the people in the second category, if they haven't become Ceroc teachers (remained members of the fold), have been officially viewed in a fairly hostile manner by Ceroc HQ, instead of being proud of them like children that have grown up and gone on to do their own thing. Many independents are just as protective of their 'unique' position as well, it's just that you don't see the same friction usually.

[bigdjiver]

There is another common motive missing from the list - to try something new, the thrill seekers.

These are often the ones that are trying to do moves before they are ready, and often are a bit reckless. They usually do not last too long before they are on to the next thing.

[dannyboy]

I think by and large James Cronin got it right - "The average Briton does not want to look stupid, but can't be bothered with dance classes. Ceroc is a breath of fresh air for guys, as it's easy to learn, looks cool and is supported by short lessons before the club begins."

:yeah:
Do you think the above IS more applicable to guys? We blokes are without doubt more worried about looking stupid, and we do seem to struggle more with the basics (generally speaking).

[Forte]

Well i'm not voting for fancying my teacher!!!!!

Elaine, your beautiful hun, but i just don't look at you that way :wink:

filthycute x x


Ah...but now James is qualified..? :wink:

[Baruch]

Do you think the above IS more applicable to guys? We blokes are without doubt more worried about looking stupid, and we do seem to struggle more with the basics (generally speaking).
:yeah:

That's the way it worked for me when I was starting off. Before I started going along to Le Roc I thought I'd make a right fool of myself, and that was a concern until the lesson started. Now, 7 months later and with much more confidence, I don't care if I make a fool of myself or not :D

[Gordon J Pownall]

Well i'm not voting for fancying my teacher!!!!!

Elaine, your beautiful hun, but i just don't look at you that way :wink:

filthycute x x


'scuse me.........The Daily Mirror (a great stalwart of truth, honesty and objective reporting.... :whistle: ), clearly explains that it is easy for students to fall in love with the teacher......

I don't think you're making enough effort.....

In fact,

with only six...yes a measly six people declaring that they fancy the teacher from 972 members, I don't think anyone is making the effort.....

Can we please start making an effort please - the teachers (male or female) are babe / bloke magnets and should duly treated as such........

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :whistle:

[RobC]

'scuse me.........The Daily Mirror (a great stalwart of truth, honesty and objective reporting.... :whistle: ), clearly explains that it is easy for students to fall in love with the teacher......

I don't think you're making enough effort.....

In fact,

with only six...yes a measly six people declaring that they fancy the teacher from 972 members, I don't think anyone is making the effort.....

Can we please start making an effort please - the teachers (male or female) are babe / bloke magnets and should duly treated as such........

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :whistle:
:yeah: And it would make Andy's campaign to find me a date a lot easier :rofl: