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bigdjiver
25th-February-2010, 04:40 AM
http://fury.com/2010/02/jesse-shells-mindblowing-talk-on-the-future-of-games-dice-2010/

Lory
25th-February-2010, 09:28 AM
http://fury.com/2010/02/jesse-shells-mindblowing-talk-on-the-future-of-games-dice-2010/
You'd think he'd have ironed his shirt before going in front of millions of people!

Interesting stuff though!

bigdjiver
25th-February-2010, 12:10 PM
You'd think he'd have ironed his shirt before going in front of millions of people!

Interesting stuff though!Geek, as in:
"I'm a geek. People are just a poorly designed UI between me and machines"
"He's a geek. When he's feeling sociable he looks at your shoes." - Doug Richards

UI - user interface

(maybe even uber-geek)

whitetiger1518
25th-February-2010, 02:01 PM
Interesting yes - terrifying definitely! 1984 here we go again!

WT

Dreadful Scathe
25th-February-2010, 02:34 PM
what an incredibly boring man and its a shame its mostly nonsense. I don't think he has much of a future as a futurist. :)

I did think the useable bonus points for using public transport idea was good but he fails to realise that in a capitalist society, the petrol and car companies will be able to afford BETTER bonus games than the government. And bonus points for turning up on time to work? how old fashioned - surely flexi systems are the way of the future - and in fact are already here with Europe decades ahead of America on work laws. see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work%E2%80%93life_balance) for more on the work/life balance and the disparity between the US and Europe.

Gadget
25th-February-2010, 02:57 PM
I did think the useable bonus points for using public transport idea was good but he fails to realise that in a capitalist society, the petrol and car companies will be able to afford BETTER bonus games than the government.
So the car manufacturers make games so you drive more economically; gets us to buy cars because we will save money. And the fuel companies make games so that we want to fill up more often. So we end up driving further just so we can use the fuel so that we can fill up - win for car manufacturer, win for fuel company.

I remember that my dad collected "points" from cigarette packets. You get Tesco & boots reward points. Shell used to have a magazine that you could save up points and trade them in for stuff... it's not a new concept. The only "NEW" thing is being able to spend these points on non-material things - to boost your avatar or buy virtual stuff. I think that the sims folk could clean up if they teamed up with the likes of Tesco.

bigdjiver
25th-February-2010, 03:25 PM
... but he fails to realise that in a capitalist society, the petrol and car companies will be able to afford BETTER bonus games than the government...What makes you think this? The whole start of his talk was about the monetisng of games. To me its just sounded like an acknowledgement/suggestion that Government might eventually catch up (perhaps even with his help).

philsmove
25th-February-2010, 03:32 PM
And the fuel companies make games so that we want to fill up more often. .
can any else remember, collecting plastic daffodils, and of course, storage jars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbFG3U4iOao)
i don't have much faith in futurologist, did any of them predict, when the mobile phone first came out, in a few years time, nearly every school kid would own one

they may have predicted man landing on the moon, but they did not foresee, we would all watch it live on TV

Dreadful Scathe
25th-February-2010, 04:43 PM
What makes you think this?

because he never mentioned it as a conflict and major flaw in his guess on the future of public transport

bigdjiver
25th-February-2010, 06:20 PM
can any else remember, collecting plastic daffodils, and of course, storage jars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbFG3U4iOao)
i don't have much faith in futurologist, did any of them predict, when the mobile phone first came out, in a few years time, nearly every school kid would own one

they may have predicted man landing on the moon, but they did not foresee, we would all watch it live on TVYou need a mobile phone to sign up for a google mail account, it has almost become an ID card.

bigdjiver
25th-February-2010, 06:39 PM
because he never mentioned it as a conflict and major flaw in his guess on the future of public transportas I recall he just said that public transport could use game points as an incentive, which does not rule out other forms of transport doing the same, or doing it first. Because he does not mention something does not mean he does not know it.

Lee Bartholomew
27th-February-2010, 01:10 PM
I think he was just using things as examples not as a "This IS what is going to happen".

Personally, i'll be headging my bets on Augmented Reality.

Dreadful Scathe
27th-February-2010, 02:27 PM
Personally, i'll be headging my bets on Augmented Reality.

That is a brilliant, yet subtle, pun :clap: :)

bigdjiver
20th-March-2010, 04:33 PM
http://slatev.com/video/how-i-ran-ad-fox-news/

http://www.google.com/adwords/tvads/index-c.html

geoff332
20th-March-2010, 07:13 PM
For much more interesting - and, in the majority of cases, better informed - futurism, I'd look to TED (http://www.ted.com/). Yes, some of the ideas are a bit flaky (see Niels Bohr on prediction: in most cases it's almost impossible to agree on where we are, let alone where we're going). But there are some truly challenging and interesting ideas out there.

I'm afraid that this video is really just catching up on around 50 years old consumer behaviour research. The technology that goes into building retail environments is streets ahead of what he's describing. The idea of manipulating people through basic psychology to make money is very, very old.

What I find ironic is that he seems to forget the point he made at the start by the time he got to the end. He started off saying that, "we didn't see all this technology coming." Or, more to the point, he didn't understand the consequences of the technological changes. The he starts talking about changing people's behaviour with all this new technology. Does he really think that we can anticipate the consequences of that sort of behavioural manipulation?