Ceroc Metro Jive Masters video

[Daisy Chain]

I'd just like to say that the Jive Masters video plopped through my letter box at the W/E and it's so nice to see what I missed and to put faces to names. I must go to all the wrong places as I've never seen any of these dancers in the flesh.

I thought that Nicky and Robert were worthy winners and I loved their performance in the final. But I was disappointed that Lorna and Rob didn't make it to the final. So stylish and a joy to watch. Wish my arms were as lovely and elegant as Lorna's and I'd love to know where she bought her sexy top.

Now I have to go and watch the semis 2 more times as it's not possible to watch all 3 couples at once and appreciate their performances.

Daisy Chain

[Tiggerbabe]

Big thankyou to Adam - got my copy of the Jive Masters Video (do you think this is a good time to mention it Adam?:wink: ) from Franck, at the Dunblane Glitter party :kiss:

It's BRILLIANT!

So much good stuff to watch, all those heats, wow!
And, I agree Daisy - it's great to be able to watch one couple in the semis and then rewind and watch the others.

Quite honestly, the best dance competition video I've got :hug: :kiss:

If you haven't ordered one yet - why?:wink:

[Paul F]

Yep :grin: Got to agree with that.

The video is simply superb. The quality is yet unmatched in my video collection.

The speed at which Adam sent it out is unbelievable too. I must have only posted the cheque 6 or 7 days before receiving the video.

Fantastic!

[TheTramp]

I only got a quick look at certain parts :wink: of the video, before it was heinously stolen from me (well, before I lent it to Lisa anyhow).

From what I saw, it looks really good, and I can't wait to watch it all again. Many times :D

So... any details yet on how the competition will be running this year Adam?

Steve

[JamesGeary]

Great video. Enjoyed it very much.
Next time how about competitors picking what genre of music they dance to. Its a bit unfortuntate in terms of dance performance when you get great lindy hop dancers making a flaky attempt at pop music, or vice versa. If people could pick a genre then the overall performances would all be better.

[TheTramp]

Originally posted by JamesGeary
Great video. Enjoyed it very much.
Next time how about competitors picking what genre of music they dance to. Its a bit unfortuntate in terms of dance performance when you get great lindy hop dancers making a flaky attempt at pop music, or vice versa. If people could pick a genre then the overall performances would all be better. But then it wouldn't be a 'Jive' Masters. It would be a 'Dance' Masters.

Which I'm not against. But you would have to change the title....

Steve

[Gadget]

Originally posted by TheTramp
But then it wouldn't be a 'Jive' Masters. It would be a 'Dance' Masters.
So you should only play "jive" music at the "jive masters" then? :devil:

[TheTramp]

Originally posted by Gadget
So you should only play "jive" music at the "jive masters" then? :devil: Define "jive" music please.

Then bear in mind that if you ask the next person, they'll probably have a different definition!

Repeat with 3 more people, until you have 5 almost totally different definitions!

Steve

[Gadget]

Originally posted by TheTramp
Define "jive" music please.
From a musical point of view it's still quite hard, but you could exclude pop, blues, country, alternate, ... which are just as valid to dance Modern Jive to.

[TheTramp]

Originally posted by Gadget
From a musical point of view it's still quite hardHard? I'd say it's impossible. Since you can dance jive to just about any music (although, some tracks are a lot more preferable to dance to than others), and everybody has their own personal taste. Pity the poor DJs :na:

Steve

[Bill]

Originally posted by Daisy Chain

I thought that Nicky and Robert were worthy winners and I loved their performance in the final.

Now I have to go and watch the semis 2 more times as it's not possible to watch all 3 couples at once and appreciate their performances.

Daisy Chain

Just seen the video myself and I know there was quite a bit of discussion after the comp and disagreement over the winners but I have to say that with no axe to grind - and not knowing some of the competitiors - I thought Nicky and Robert were the best on the day. From what I had read on the forum I had expected a lot of flashy moves and little interpretation but I thought they had a great balance of really good moves and musical interpretation.

If none of the Scottish ( or Scottish based dancers :D ) were going to win then I think N & R clearly were the deserved winners.
Some really good dancing throughout though and a good video.

[Rachel]

I have to agree that it's a superb video. It's so good to be able to watch all the couples individually and be able to see everything.

And everyone on it, without exception, looks to be dancing even better than I'd remembered. I'd rembered comments, for example, from James Geary about how he didn't feel he'd done well in the fast track. But looking back at him and Kate on the video, they look superb. Such a shame they couldn't make it to the final.

Do you know who is my favourite discovery of all from the JiveMasters - I mean, of the people I didn't know? Rena's partner. Was he called Mark? That guy is super-capital C-Cooool!! He's just brilliant to watch. Very clever dancing. I thought he and Rena were fantastic to watch - ok, they made some mistakes but so what?! They made it look so much fun. If I didn't dance before, they definitely would have convinced me to start!
Rachel

[Bill]

Watched most of the video again and interesting how having time can change how and what you see. The first time round I'd have agreed more or less with the final places but seeing it again I would still have placed Nikky and Robert first but would have changed a few of the other places and even the finalists.


Although as Gadget and Steve have indicated thta it's almost impossible to say what modern jive is, tehre were a few couples who seemed to be doing lindy all the way through rather than jive. I know a lot of moves are similar but I thought they were different types of dance so I'd have marked down anyone who wasn't 'jiving'.

Also realised that one couple who I thought were very good completely ignored the lyrics and tempo of the slow song while at least two others did the 'set' moves I've seem them do before - almost in the same order in each round.

I think this points to how difficult it is to judge. It's very much about impression although it's pretty clear who is and isn't a very good dancer but interestingly most of the best men did very little ( or appeared to) while others seemed to be doing too much and struggling a little bit.

Some great variety in styles though and some lovley dancing.

[Dreadful Scathe]

Personally I thought Amir was the clear winner. I agree with Rachel though - that guy Mark was good :)

[Bill]

Originally posted by Dreadful Scathe
Personally I thought Amir was the clear winner. I agree with Rachel though - that guy Mark was good :)

Think I would have placed Amir just behind Nikky and Robert but no doubting his style or ability but the difference in opinion just shows how difficult it is to judge because we all see things a little differently or prefer slightly different styles.

[Simon r]

The only point i would like to add is that local support and how each couple were introduced did seem rather biased this is not sour grapes just the comments that i have heard and felt myself.
Im still waiting for the video so have not seen it myself but would love to try again for all the gripes:D

[Bill]

Originally posted by Simon r
The only point i would like to add is that local support and how each couple were introduced did seem rather biased this is not sour grapes just the comments that i have heard and felt myself.
Im still waiting for the video so have not seen it myself but would love to try again for all the gripes:D


The video didn't have very much of the introduciton so difficult to say but I could only hear one name being shouted from the audience but can't remember if it was for Simon or not. Were there two Simons in the heats???

[Simon r]

yep there was simon selman and me some say the more attractive one not that i would:eek:

[Lorna]

Hurrah!!

I finally got my copy of the video last night. My 20 month old just loves it. Mind you she keeps calling Franck 'daddy', (not least for Franck - ;) T) and that is worrying!

Was great to finally put the faces to all the names that I have been hearing over the past few years and relieved to see that we weren't as bad as we thought we were on the day, eh Franck?

Having watched it again I still think that Rob May should have gone through to the final - wonderful musical interpretation, mind you he is a fellow musician.

Would also like to thank the video production team for making us all look so tall and thin. I will be watching it with pride in 7 months time when I'm about to pop out my second baby and am the size of a bus.

Rob May and Annalisa (Guilford) both completed their ceroc beginner's teacher training with me and I was very proud to see that all 3 of us were in the heats and that Rob and I made it to the semi-finals. Hope you guys are keeping well.

Lotsa love Lorna x-x

[cerocmetro]

Originally posted by Lorna
Would also like to thank the video production team for making us all look so tall and thin. I will be watching it with pride in 7 months time when I'm about to pop out my second baby and am the size of a bus..

Lotsa love Lorna x-x

You do know it is in wide screen don't you Lorna :eek:

Adam xx :rofl:

[Lorna]

Ckeeky git!!

When are you coming back to Aberdeen? Will you make the next BB party?

Lotsa love Lorna x-x

[cerocmetro]

Originally posted by Lorna
Ckeeky git!!

When are you coming back to Aberdeen? Will you make the next BB party?

Lotsa love Lorna x-x

There is a chance, Franck is going to let me know soon I think. But we are trying to arrange something soon. I need to get up there anyway, I need my Scottie fix :cheers:

Luv to all the gang
Adam

[Yogi_Bear]

Originally posted by Bill
Watched most of the video again and interesting how having time can change how and what you see. The first time round I'd have agreed more or less with the final places but seeing it again I would still have placed Nikky and Robert first but would have changed a few of the other places and even the finalists.


Although as Gadget and Steve have indicated thta it's almost impossible to say what modern jive is, tehre were a few couples who seemed to be doing lindy all the way through rather than jive. I know a lot of moves are similar but I thought they were different types of dance so I'd have marked down anyone who wasn't 'jiving'.

Also realised that one couple who I thought were very good completely ignored the lyrics and tempo of the slow song while at least two others did the 'set' moves I've seem them do before - almost in the same order in each round.

I think this points to how difficult it is to judge. It's very much about impression although it's pretty clear who is and isn't a very good dancer but interestingly most of the best men did very little ( or appeared to) while others seemed to be doing too much and struggling a little bit.

Some great variety in styles though and some lovley dancing.

Simon Selmon and Taina Kortalainen were dancing (as far as i am aware) Hollywood Swing. If you watch their first round dancing to Swing Lover and Would You? again you can see how brilliant they were in adapting a limited number of moves to two very different tempo tracks. For me their performance to swing lover was the highlight of the video - I didn't get to see it live. Some of the tracks in later rounds did not suit them so well. I thought they did really well, given that they could have walked it in Lindy Hop or Blues but modern jive isn't their main strength.

I agree completely that the best male dancers can look as they are doing very little. But watch closely as there is more emphasis on body leads and probably on dancing in a slot (certainly true of Simon and Taina).

With songs such as Vem Vet or Tango in Harlem I would rather see west coast swing danced than modern jive - all credit to those who managed to use their jive moves to tracks like these......:cheers:

[Bill]

Originally posted by Yogi_Bear
I agree completely that the best male dancers can look as they are doing very little. But watch closely as there is more emphasis on body leads and probably on dancing in a slot (certainly true of Simon and Taina).




And very true of Nigel. It's only when you try and copy a move from someone like this that you realise how much they actually do and how easy they make it look as if they are doing nothing.

have to watch the video again and see if I change my mind again :D

[Chicklet]

where please can one make the purchase to enjoy of a cold January evening????

[cerocmetro]

Originally posted by Chicklet
where please can one make the purchase to enjoy of a cold January evening????

Hi Chicklet,

The video can be purchased direct from CerocMetro. You can call on 07768 005858 and pay by credit card, or email ceroc@hotmail.com and pay by cheque. There is a 6% charge for credit card payments.

We will send out the video same day.

Hope this helps.

Adam

[Yogi_Bear]

Originally posted by Bill
And very true of Nigel. It's only when you try and copy a move from someone like this that you realise how much they actually do and how easy they make it look as if they are doing nothing.

have to watch the video again and see if I change my mind again :D

Quite right! And I'd like to add my own thanks to Adam and Ceroc Metro for producing such a high quality video in such a short space of time. I'm looking forward to Ceroc Masters 2004.....at least the rounds in Chigwell that I can actually travel to, now that it's going nationwide and international.

[Graham W]

Fab video, no tack - just got myself a copy..

G

Well done to L (esp good in the heats)..