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Gus
3rd-October-2007, 11:41 AM
I'm trying to read the website but getting nowhere with the drop down buttons or some of the links. I'm using Mozilla .... anyone else having a problem?
and I thought the Ceroc Champs website was badly designed :rolleyes:

killingtime
3rd-October-2007, 11:47 AM
I'm trying to read the website but getting nowhere with the drop down buttons or some of the links. I'm using Mozilla .... anyone else having a problem?

Maybe I shouldn't grace a poorly designed site with a link but I'm lazy and nearly didn't bother Googling it so here it is (http://www.achance2dance.co.uk/). You are quite right, IE designed scripts. Tried it in Firefox and then IE, works ok in IE and not in Firefox. Cross-browser scripting? Pah!

Update: Except Hall of Fame which does work, but then has one of the side scrolling ticker things, bleh.

ducasi
3rd-October-2007, 12:04 PM
Doesn't work in Safari either – again, except for the "2008 info" page with is basically empty, and the hall of fame pages. I don't see any side-scrolling ticker thing though.

As the 2008 info page says though, the web site is still being build, so hopefully it won't be too hard to fix the problem.

My best advice would be to dump the home-made pages with the dodgy javascript and use a content management system that does all the navigation stuff for you. :)

bigdjiver
3rd-October-2007, 12:17 PM
I'm trying to read the website but getting nowhere with the drop down buttons or some of the links. I'm using Mozilla .... anyone else having a problem?
and I thought the Ceroc Champs website was badly designed :rolleyes:When I am in :devil: mood I run peoples web pages through The W3C Markup Validation Service (http://validator.w3.org/)

Most I have tried fail.

Gus
3rd-October-2007, 12:22 PM
My best advice would be to dump the home-made pages with the dodgy javascript and use a content management system that does all the navigation stuff for you. :)My best advice would be to get a professional to do it! I got my business website built for only £700 and it looks absolutely professional (not a Frontpage knockoff like my last one). I probably wasted well over £700 of my time before I let an expert do it.

Dreadful Scathe
3rd-October-2007, 12:29 PM
My best advice would be to get a professional to do it! I got my business website built for only £700 and it looks absolutely professional (not a Frontpage knockoff like my last one). I probably wasted well over £700 of my time before I let an expert do it.
true - could be money well spent if its for work. Ducasis idea is a good one for that middle ground of people who have a decent understanding on how it all works and can best use their time by using opensource stuff thats already out there.

Gus: whats your address then ? :)

Tessalicious
3rd-October-2007, 01:30 PM
Gus: whats your address then ? :)Gorgeous Gus (http://www.ggus.co.uk/) :whistle:

Andy McGregor
3rd-October-2007, 01:36 PM
Gorgeous Gus (http://www.ggus.co.uk/) :whistle:I thought "The Hipsters of the North" was quite prophetic.

R.I.P. Cook Catz & Hipsters :tears:

Gus
3rd-October-2007, 01:42 PM
Gorgeous Gus (http://www.ggus.co.uk/) :whistle:Actually thats the defunct dance business (and it was a very rough Frontpage thing I whacked together a long time ago), not my consultancy site for Allan Consulting. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your viewpoint) I'm on the process of mothballing the consultancy practice as I've just accepted a wage slave role (paid holidays!!!) so the new website will be mothballed before even being launched. Shame considering I've paid a lot of money out on advertising type stuff but its just the way it goes sometimes.

Gus
3rd-October-2007, 01:45 PM
I thought "The Hipsters of the North" was quite prophetic.

R.I.P. Cook Catz & Hipsters :tears:HEY! Cool Catz isn't dead (yet). It was Gorgeous Gus Dance that got totalled ... oh, the original Cool Catz at Knutsford has ceased but Cool Catz at Northwich exists till December ... THEN its RIP (:tears:) ..... long and boring story

David Franklin
3rd-October-2007, 02:01 PM
Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your viewpoint) I'm on the process of mothballing the consultancy practice as I've just accepted a wage slave role (paid holidays!!!) so the new website will be mothballed before even being launched. Is it possible to give a link to it anyhow? (My brother-in-law is in the process of getting a site done professionally and it's all going somewhat pear-shaped. I'd be interested to see what you can get for £700 these days).

Feelingpink
3rd-October-2007, 02:12 PM
Is it possible to give a link to it anyhow? (My brother-in-law is in the process of getting a site done professionally and it's all going somewhat pear-shaped. I'd be interested to see what you can get for £700 these days).Don't know if you mean bespoke or something he could maintain himself, but if it's the latter, bludomain (http://www.bludomain.com/) and flashpalette.com, bigfolio.com, creativemotion (http://creativemotiondesign.com/), livebooks.com and Winklet (http://www.winkletwebdesign.com/) design. All are aimed at photographers ... but might give you/your BIL some ideas.

David Franklin
3rd-October-2007, 02:27 PM
Don't know if you mean bespoke or something he could maintain himself,Bespoke in this instance (I dare say I will end up doing any required maintenance).


but if it's the latter, bludomain (http://www.bludomain.com/) and flashpalette.com, bigfolio.com, creativemotion (http://creativemotiondesign.com/), livebooks.com and Winklet (http://www.winkletwebdesign.com/) design. All are aimed at photographers ... but might give you/your BIL some ideas.Interesting - lots of stuff I didn't know existed. You can certainly get some quite sophisticated stuff for not much $$$! I think photographers websites have evolved to being a lot more "bells and whistles" than is appropriate for a typical "small-business" site though (photography sites are one of the cases where using Flash as the primary front end seems justified, for example).

As for giving the BIL ideas, problem is he's already invested time and money with the guy doing the bespoke site, so it's a big step to try something else at this point.

bigdjiver
3rd-October-2007, 02:49 PM
...As for giving the BIL ideas, problem is he's already invested time and money with the guy doing the bespoke site, so it's a big step to try something else at this point.:devil:More time and money to produce a bigger pear?

If I were looking for someone who really knew what they were doing, as distinct from fooling most of the people most of the time, I would look at ISP (Internet Service Provider) sites, find one whose site looked good and passed the W3C validator, and approach the guy that designed their site.

There are some "best web design" sites that may be another approach.

David Franklin
3rd-October-2007, 02:54 PM
:devil:More time and money to produce a bigger pear?Well, that is the concern, although I've strongly hinted they shouldn't pay him any more money.

To be fair, this is a simple site for what's essentially a 1-man business. It shouldn't need a high-powered website designer. I think the guy concerned is trying to be too clever.

Yliander
3rd-October-2007, 03:05 PM
Well, that is the concern, although I've strongly hinted they shouldn't pay him any more money.

To be fair, this is a simple site for what's essentially a 1-man business. It shouldn't need a high-powered website designer. I think the guy concerned is trying to be too clever. pretty and clever is all very good - but first up need to have a good site plan other wise site will be pretty and funky but pretty much useless and annoying - a good site plan generally means that you will only need to do cosmetic touch ups rather than compete rebuilds as time goes by

Oh and by the way I hate flash only sites - as everywhere I have worked in the last 6 years hasn't had flash installed on it's computers...

bigdjiver
3rd-October-2007, 08:12 PM
Well, that is the concern, although I've strongly hinted they shouldn't pay him any more money.

To be fair, this is a simple site for what's essentially a 1-man business. It shouldn't need a high-powered website designer. I think the guy concerned is trying to be too clever.They have all of those wonderful tools, it seems a shame not to use them ...

I did a Dogpile UK Web Search Home Page (http://www.dogpile.co.uk) search on 'examples of good web design' and came up with some horrors, but also some I liked, including:

Current style in web design (http://www.webdesignfromscratch.com/current-style.cfm#designthecontent)