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Beowulf

23rd-July-2007, 02:57 PM

I finished this book on Saturday night and I did really enjoy it. It was a much darker book than the previous ones.. the words "Blood bath" spring to mind.

Killing off Mad Eye Moody at the start was a bit of a shock. he's what I would call the "military" wing of the Order of the Phoenix. The bit with Harry's wand automatically defending itself.. it wasn't fully explained .. well ok it WAS .. sort of ... as a side effect of the bond between Harry and Voldermort.

I did find the end.. the final battle between Harry and Voldermort passed a little quickly. Sure there was the huge pitched battle at Hogwarts and all the notable deaths there. But the actual battle between good and evil.. seemed to pass very quickly. in the space of one or two lines of text actually.

I actually missed the bit where Voldermorts spell backfired.. One second they have wands drawn and the next Voldy's gone Moldy! What? what did I miss.. since when did the disarming spell kill??

That was a little "odd" as well. Using a disarming spell when he knew this was the last and most important battle? Surely he didn't know it would cause the unforgivable curse to rebound. So what was he going to do.. "I've got the elder wand now b*gger off and leave us alone?" Of course, it would never do for Harry to use the killing curse now would it?

all in all a good read.. even if at times it read more like a camping book than a harry potter novel.

"Five go mad with wands" ;)

David Franklin

23rd-July-2007, 03:16 PM

I finished this book on Saturday night and I did really enjoy it. It was a much darker book than the previous ones.. the words "Blood bath" spring to mind.Gratuitious blood bath, at that. Particularly Lupin/Tonks - felt like JK got near the end, remembered she'd said some important people would die in HP7, so quickly killed off a couple of people off stage.

Killing off Mad Eye Moody at the start was a bit of a shock. he's what I would call the "military" wing of the Order of the Phoenix. Only thing is, we've never really "met" Moody (just Barty-Moody), so I didn't really care. Hedwig going (and in such a banal way) was more of a shock I think.

I did find the end.. the final battle between Harry and Voldermort passed a little quickly. Sure there was the huge pitched battle at Hogwarts and all the notable deaths there. But the actual battle between good and evil.. seemed to pass very quickly. in the space of one or two lines of text actually.Worse, the actual quality of writing at that point seems to fall apart. If someone had leaked the paragraph where V dies, I think everyone would have scoffed and said it was obviously stolen from a fan-fic. Really poor.

I actually missed the bit where Voldermorts spell backfired.. One second they have wands drawn and the next Voldy's gone Moldy! What? what did I miss.. since when did the disarming spell kill??It didn't. Voldypants AK spell rebounded. Like it does every time he tries to AK Harry Potter. You'd think he'd have wised up!

That was a little "odd" as well. Using a disarming spell when he knew this was the last and most important battle? Surely he didn't know it would cause the unforgivable curse to rebound. So what was he going to do.. "I've got the elder wand now b*gger off and leave us alone?" Of course, it would never do for Harry to use the killing curse now would it?I think your last sentence is the operative one here.

all in all a good read.. even if at times it read more like a camping book than a harry potter novel.To me, the biggest problem with this book is the amount of stuff that happens because JK Rowling needed it to happen. Like Harry, Ron and Hermione hiding in the middle of the woods and just happening to overhear Dean Thomas et. al. discussing vital information. I think you can tell she was writing with half a mind on the screenplay as well.

Plot wise, I thought she really fitted a lot of things together very neatly; I was particularly impressed that she not only made Harry a horcrux and avoided having to kill him off, and made it make sense. But I really wish she hadn't pulled the "Hollows" out of nowhere for the last book. Other than the "uber-wand", the other 2 hollows didn't really seem relevant to the plot. And (like the time-turner that JK had to destroy from future books because it is so disruptive to logic) the whole idea of a "uber-wand" has a lot of problems once you look at it closely. And the "uber-wand" doesn't really seem necessary; as other's have pointed out, at the time of the final duel, V has already lost; he's mortal, his henchmen are dead or running, and he's completely surrounded. Even if he had killed Harry, he'd have been torn apart by spells from McGonagal et. al. within seconds.

Jamie

23rd-July-2007, 03:31 PM

David Franklin

23rd-July-2007, 03:39 PM

So what was the deal with Snape? Was he a vampire?Animagus, possibly. Of course, JKR said explictly that wizards can't fly, but it seems she forgot to tell Voldy and Snape that.

Major thing: What was it that Snape did to gain Dumbledore's trust? Was it just that he showed remorse and that he had a thing for Lily?Seems so. It seems a bit stupid really, doesn't it. Although it's also implied that he doesn't have all DD's trust - something about "not telling all my secrets to someone who hangs off Voldemort's right arm". I also felt that if Snape really had gone undercover for the last 15 years solely to protect Lily's son, then I can't see him accepting DD's "the boy must die" attitude - I think you'd have seen a parting of the ways there.

Was Nagini actually a horcrux or was Harry her replacement horcrux unbeknown to Voldemort?Yes, Nagini was a Horcrux. Or at least Voldy thought so, and he should know! It does mean there were 7 Horcruxes and so V divided his soul into 8, not 7. The most likely explanation is Voldemort didn't realise he'd made one when he failed to AK baby Harry.

What was the point of Grawp? He annoyed me so much, turns out he didn't have any major role to play.Surely annoying you so much was a role all by itself? :na:

Who was the one who would do magic later in life under extreme circumstances?This is the most common question I'm seeing post HP7, and I don't think anyone has an answer. JKR changed her mind, I'm guessing.

Caro

23rd-July-2007, 03:40 PM

The bit with Harry's wand automatically defending itself.. it wasn't fully explained .. well ok it WAS .. sort of ... as a side effect of the bond between Harry and Voldermort.

yeah I thought this was a bit far fetched... I thought it was Snape who did that to protect Harry, from behind Voldemort. I think I liked that version better.

I actually missed the bit where Voldermorts spell backfired.. One second they have wands drawn and the next Voldy's gone Moldy! What? what did I miss.. since when did the disarming spell kill??

That was a little "odd" as well. Using a disarming spell when he knew this was the last and most important battle? Surely he didn't know it would cause the unforgivable curse to rebound. So what was he going to do.. "I've got the elder wand now b*gger off and leave us alone?" Of course, it would never do for Harry to use the killing curse now would it?

I think Harry knew that the wand, of whom he was the true master, would not kill him. Therefore he had nothing to fear from Voldemort, and chose to disarm him? He knew he had to kill him I think, so may be the second spell would have been the AK one. Although I don;t think he'd have been able to perform it (being merciful and all).

Gratuitious blood bath, at that. Particularly Lupin/Tonks - felt like JK got near the end, remembered she'd said some important people would die in HP7, so quickly killed off a couple of people off stage.

Agreed. Such important characters dying, you'd expect to 'be there' when it happens. Didn't quite realise at first (I was reading quickly and very late at night...).

To me, the biggest problem with this book is the amount of stuff that happens because JK Rowling needed it to happen. Like Harry, Ron and Hermione hiding in the middle of the woods and just happening to overhear Dean Thomas et. al. discussing vital information. I think you can tell she was writing with half a mind on the screenplay as well.

Indeed, that particular bit was poor I thought. Very far-fetched again.

I really wish she hadn't pulled the "Hollows" out of nowhere for the last book. Other than the "uber-wand", the other 2 hollows didn't really seem relevant to the plot.

On the contrary, I thought this was very good. I think you need a whole knew enigma in the book otherwise it's just a bunch of stuff that need to happen as you said. Plus again it illustrates the internal struggle between power / glory (Harry being tempted to collect all 3 objects and therefore become the master of death, which as Dumbledore explains, means being invicible to most people; instead of carrying on with the tedious horcrux quest).

Stuff I was sort of disappointed not to see / learn more about:
- the fact that V drank unicorn blood to survive in book 1
- the arch with the veil in the dept of mysteries
- Harry's family from his father's side (how come he had no other relative than Petunia?), although we learn he's a descendant of Ignotus Pewerell (sorry can't remember spelling).
- I thought Snape's part was really small, I would have liked to see a face to face with Harry, or at least McGonagall (where he explains what he's done).

Don't get me wrong, I loved the book though.

straycat

23rd-July-2007, 03:41 PM

Well, I have to say I was impressed with some things but unimpressed with others...

Dobby's death made me fill with tears, something that always made me laugh was people saying "omg I cried when Dumbledore died!" or something daft like that, but my eyes actually filled up with tears when I read Dobby died! :tears:

Agreed - Dobby's was the best handled death - Lupin / Tonks / Fred - I loved those characters, but the way the deaths were handled just didn't feel ... real ... had very little impact for me. They almost felt glossed over.

So what was the deal with Snape? Was he a vampire?

Major thing: What was it that Snape did to gain Dumbledore's trust? Was it just that he showed remorse and that he had a thing for Lily? It wasn't the patronus because he showed DD that just before the start of book 6 (DD's withered hand).

I'm assuming it was the rather dangerous role he assumed, the manner in which he conducted it, and Dumbledore's insight into his character. Snape would never ever forgive V. for what he did to Lily.

Was Nagini actually a horcrux or was Harry her replacement horcrux unbeknown to Voldemort?

The former. Harry was the 'extra' horcrux that voldy didn't know he'd made.

It felt to me ... that the ending was rushed - the last battle, the aftermath...
Maybe she was just desperate to get it over and done with.

I'd also like to have known a little more about what happened just after - whether Harry & pals redid their final year, Harry / Ginny's reunion, even down to what profession Harry and co took on (or did I miss something there?)

etc.

Overall though - I was impressed. Wonder what she'll be working on next?

Jamie

23rd-July-2007, 03:45 PM

Stuff I was sort of disappointed not to see / learn more about:
- the fact that V drank unicorn blood to survive in book 1
- the arch with the veil in the dept of mysteries
- Harry's family from his father's side (how come he had no other relative than Petunia?), although we learn he's a descendant of Ignotus Pewerell (sorry can't remember spelling).
- I thought Snape's part was really small, I would have liked to see a face to face with Harry, or at least McGonagall (where he explains what he's done).

Don't get me wrong, I loved the book though.

I keep hearing this but to me, that doesn't make sense... Voldemort has a new body after being resurrected in book 4... Remember when V drank unicorn blood, he was in the body of Quirrel.. I'm thinking that the blood only affects the body, not the soul?

Stuart M

23rd-July-2007, 03:52 PM

Dobby's death made me fill with tears, something that always made me laugh was people saying "omg I cried when Dumbledore died!" or something daft like that, but my eyes actually filled up with tears when I read Dobby died! :tears:
Don't worry - let's all get together at 3pm tomorrow and start thinking "Doctor".

Jamie

23rd-July-2007, 04:09 PM

Also, what was Dudley's worst memory? (OoTP - Dudley Demented) :confused:

Beowulf

23rd-July-2007, 04:11 PM

So hands up who thinks there'll be a series of books later

HP:TNG !!

following Harry/Ginny's, Ron/Hermione's and Draco's Children though the school??

At least then it would tell us... "What does Harry do now?.. He's not a teacher otherwise they would have mentioned that at the end too, is the order of the phoenix now disbanded? Have the Dursley's all died? Are rons parents Retired? or still mourning over the death of one of their sons? What's the other son doing? is he still in the joke business or has he cast of childish things and become a lawyer??

I'm sure she'll write another book later.. perhaps a whole new series.. or a TV spin off ? Who knows.. but she's certainly not closed any doors.

David Franklin

23rd-July-2007, 04:19 PM

Are rons parents Retired? or still mourning over the death of one of their sons?Sadly, Molly Weasley's finest moment was when she got into a power loader and told Bellatrix to

Get away from her, you b1tch!
Since then, she starred in a movie that never happened, died, was resurrected and appeared in another movie than never happened.

Distraught, Arthur Weasley turned to the muggle dark arts and became a leading expert on atomic weapons. He became notorious as a pundit for the Daily Prophet; particular for his catchphrase when discussing suspected death-eater strongholds - "Nuke them from orbit - it's the only way to be sure".

Caro

23rd-July-2007, 04:41 PM

IRemember when V drank unicorn blood, he was in the body of Quirrel.. I'm thinking that the blood only affects the body, not the soul?

Can't remember exactly now... but no I thought it talked about a 'cursed life', which I didn't take to mean body, but soul.

straycat

23rd-July-2007, 05:30 PM

Can't remember exactly now... but no I thought it talked about a 'cursed life', which I didn't take to mean body, but soul.

... you will have but a half-life, a cursed life, from the moment the blood touches your lips

but...

he says shortly after, on being asked by Harry whether death wouldn't be better:

It is, unless all you need is to stay alive long enough to drink something else -- something that will bring you back to full strength and power -- something that will mean you can never die.
Referring, of course, to the Elixir of Life. I presume though, that when he's restored in book 4(?), that has a similar effect, and fixes the unicorn's blood problem. I do wonder if the blood accounted for his subhuman appearence though....

purplehyacinth

23rd-July-2007, 08:52 PM

Agreed - Dobby's was the best handled death - Lupin / Tonks / Fred - I loved those characters, but the way the deaths were handled just didn't feel ... real ... had very little impact for me. They almost felt glossed over.

It felt to me ... that the ending was rushed - the last battle, the aftermath...
Maybe she was just desperate to get it over and done with.

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Actually, I thought that the Fred/Tonks/Lupin deaths were all on a par with the way the whole ending was handled. The background to the ending is that it is a massive great battle - everyone is piling in and the whole thing has all the horrendously fast pace and chaos that a battle produces. Hence Remus and Tonks die "off camera", and Fred's death happens so fast - if you read the passage, he dies in what seems to be an explosion of some sort, but the battle goes on, and Harry cannot stop to take time to mourn Fred properly - all he, and his companions can do is move Fred's body out of the way and get on with the task in hand.

That's the thing about battles - and wars. People don't die nice artistically-handled deaths. Deaths in battles are fast, brutal and messy, and for those involved, they have to keep moving and hold back the mourning and emotion connected with the deaths of their comrades until the danger facing themselves is past, and that day's fight ended.

Freya

23rd-July-2007, 11:33 PM

I do wonder if the blood accounted for his subhuman appearence though....
No It's explained in book 6 that his appearence is due to the fact that he's ripped his soul into 7 peices!

Lord Voldomort has seemed to grow less human with the passing years, and the transformation he had undergone seemed to me to be only explainable if his soul was mutilated beyond the realms of what we might call 'usual evil' . . ."

David Franklin

24th-July-2007, 12:13 AM

An interesting observation seen elsewhere about the entire series:

Book 1: Largely a quest for an object that prevents death. There are several tasks to be performed to get the object, and each of the trio has a role to play. At the end, it is revealed that Snape is not the villian we thought he was.

Book 2: Harry meets Ginny. There's a magical book that is not what it seems. We find out about Tom Riddle. A secret room plays a key part.

Book 3: Harry meets Sirius. We get a true prophecy from Trelawney. We see that the ministry of magic is not to be trusted where justice is concerned.

Book 4: The middle of the series. The Triwizard tournament was entertaining, but never really made that much sense in the scheme of things. In reality only one impotant thing happens - Voldemort returns. It's the turning point in the series.

Book 5: See book 3.
Book 6: See book 2.
Book 7: See book 1. Edit: (the search is also for some Horcruxes. And there will be more contributors than just the trio. Same overall feel though, just a bigger scale).

Baruch

24th-July-2007, 02:28 AM

Beowulf

24th-July-2007, 10:04 AM

How come the Malfoys were ignored by everyone in the Great Hall after Voldemort was killed? You'd think that the presence of a family of known death-eaters in those circumstances would be pretty unwelcome.

Yeah I was wondering that. In the Epilogue Draco "nods" towards Harry in what I assume is a grudgingly given acknowledgement to Harry saving him. But the fact remains that Draco, his friends, His family etc all were actively trying to kill Harry. or does the concept of "attempted murder" not apply to non-muggles.

"You are hear by charged with attempted murder.. how do you plead?"
"Guilty m'lud but I'm really REALLY Sorry!"
"You are? well that's ok then.. off you go then sonny.. don't do it again"

Dancing Veela

24th-July-2007, 01:59 PM

Yeah I was wondering that. In the Epilogue Draco "nods" towards Harry in what I assume is a grudgingly given acknowledgement to Harry saving him. But the fact remains that Draco, his friends, His family etc all were actively trying to kill Harry. or does the concept of "attempted murder" not apply to non-muggles.

"You are hear by charged with attempted murder.. how do you plead?"
"Guilty m'lud but I'm really REALLY Sorry!"
"You are? well that's ok then.. off you go then sonny.. don't do it again"

Yes but remember if Draco's mother hadn't lied and said that Harry was dead then the big V would have killed him whilst Harry was still lying on the ground and not able to get to his wand in time!

I want to know what happened to everybody else! - What about Luna?

Baruch

24th-July-2007, 04:55 PM

Yes but remember if Draco's mother hadn't lied and said that Harry was dead then the big V would have killed him whilst Harry was still lying on the ground and not able to get to his wand in time!

True - but the point is, nobody but Harry knew anything about that. As far as anyone else knew, the Malfoys were loyal Death-eaters who had fought for Voldemort in the assault on Hogwarts.

I want to know what happened to everybody else! - What about Luna?

She obviously survived, or her death would have been mentioned.

Beowulf

24th-July-2007, 05:14 PM

I want to know what happened to everybody else! - What about Luna?

She obviously survived, or her death would have been mentioned.

Personally I think she got frazzled by a Wrackspurt and is lost in Hogwarts her brain too fuzzy to find her way out.

"A Wrackspurt .. they're invisible, they float in through your ears and make your brain go fuzzy," she said. "I thought I felt one zooming around in here."

have to Say Luna is one of my favourite characters.. and played excellently in the recent film. Just the right level of detachment from reality :clap:

(why if she was male.. and 37.. and a geek not a witch.. and real.. why she'd .. ahem I mean.. he'd be me !)

purplehyacinth

24th-July-2007, 06:41 PM

I want to know what happened to everybody else! - What about Luna?

Of course Luna survived. The morning after the battle, in all the celebration, she is the one who creates the diversion to let Harry get away under the cloak to get some peace and quiet away from everyone in the Headmaster's study with just Ron and Hermione (see page 597).

Mezzosoprano

24th-July-2007, 06:42 PM

After three days I'm now emotionally ready to contribute....

Gutted doesn't describe it!!!

It was a bloodbath!! I'm so upset about Fred, Remus and Dora Tonks, I mean for heaven's sake they'd just had a baby!!! and poor Dobby!!

Kreacher came through in the end though, which was quite good but on the whole, I'm emotionally drained....

Very proud of Molly Weasley ... I hope if I was in a similar situation I'd have the presence of mind to yell "Get away from her you bitch!!"

I too have many many questions though.. how come fred got killed off and not that prat percy who only turned up at the end... dozy buXXer.

purplehyacinth

24th-July-2007, 07:04 PM

Sorry, should have included this in last post.

As far as Draco is concerned, I'm not sure about the logic of him staying free. Presumably it is because he has been acting more and more under duress as far as Voldemort is concerned. At the start, in HBP, he is keen to work for Voldemort, but when it comes to the crunch at the end of that book and he is face to face with Dumbledore:

(Malfoy).... "I'm about to kill you"
"My dear boy, let us have no more pretence about that. If you were doing to kill me, you would have done it when you first Disarmed me, you would not have stopped for this pleasant chat about ways and means"
"I haven't got any options!" said Malfoy, and he was suddenly as white as Dumbledore. "I've got to do it! He'll kill me! He'll kill my whole family!"
(more stuff by Dumbledore)... I can help you Draco"
"No you can't," said Malfoy, his wand hand shaking very badly indeed. "Nobody can. he told me to do it or he'll kill me. I've got no choice"

And in the chapter in Deathly Hallows, for some reason Draco fails to confirm that Harry is Harry - and seems even reluctant to be involved.

The feeling in Book 7 (admittedly I read it quite quickly, so there are probably finer nuances which have escaped me and will need re-reading for me to pick up) is that the Malfoys have got themselves in deeper with Voldemort than they actually like, and now that they are seeing JUST how evil he is, up close, they are not quite so keen on him (see the Malfoys reluctance in chapter 1).

So it is possible that they have had a change of heart.

The other possibility is - similar to their position throughout books 1-5 - is that they manage to deny the connection/claim that they were under the imperius curse, and continue to avoid Azkaban by having friends high up in the Ministry and making copious donations to Ministry funds and charity.

purplehyacinth

24th-July-2007, 07:08 PM

Kreacher came through in the end though, which was quite good but on the whole, I'm emotionally drained....

Very proud of Molly Weasley ... I hope if I was in a similar situation I'd have the presence of mind to yell "Get away from her you bitch!!"

I, for one, am also glad that Neville got a chance to shine at long last, firstly as the "rebel" leader within Hogwarts, fighting back at the Carrows et al, and finally by getting to kill the snake in full view of everyone.

What I want to know is - After the goblin made off with Gryffindor's sword in Gringotts, how did it get back into the Sorting Hat? That one REALLY has me flummoxed.

Baruch

25th-July-2007, 12:46 AM

What I want to know is - After the goblin made off with Gryffindor's sword in Gringotts, how did it get back into the Sorting Hat? That one REALLY has me flummoxed.
I bet Griphook would be annoyed! It's the same as in Chamber of Secrets, when Harry pulls the sword out of the hat. It's magic that works only for a true Gryffindor.

Dancing Veela

25th-July-2007, 10:24 AM

Of course Luna survived. The morning after the battle, in all the celebration, she is the one who creates the diversion to let Harry get away under the cloak to get some peace and quiet away from everyone in the Headmaster's study with just Ron and Hermione (see page 597).

Oh I know she survived (and I agree, Luna in the film was absolutely perfect) - but I wanted to know what happened to her 19 years later - I thought she might marry Prof Longbottom!).

By the way - did I miss it in my rush? ........who is the headmaster of Hogwarts 19 years on? And do they still teach 'Defence against the Dark Arts?' - I mean I guess so because they were teaching it before Voldemort came on the scene.

I am also thrilled Mollly got the chance to shine in such a big way - I mean she's never fought in any of the battles before!

NZ Monkey

30th-July-2007, 12:48 PM

Yeah I was wondering that. In the Epilogue Draco "nods" towards Harry in what I assume is a grudgingly given acknowledgement to Harry saving him. But the fact remains that Draco, his friends, His family etc all were actively trying to kill Harry. or does the concept of "attempted murder" not apply to non-muggles.
This was the thing that I didn't understand.

When the trio are captured and taken to the Malfoy household, Draco is evasive when his parents press him to identify Harry. I took this to mean that he had been having second thoughts about Lord V. and his Death Eaters, proving that his soul might have actually been worth saving after all. I was looking forward to him being useful in some way that involved his own free will later in the book.

Yet in the Battle of Hogwarts he is quite clearly trying to do his worst again as if he hadn't learned a thing in the last two years.

Despite this he seems to be accepted if not actually welcomed by the people he had tried to kill in the epilogue.

Caro

30th-July-2007, 12:56 PM

Despite this he seems to be accepted if not actually welcomed by the people he had tried to kill in the epilogue.

yeah I did find that odd too. The only thing I can think about is that maybe JKR wanted kids to realise that there is a difference between your school 'enemies' and real bad/evil. Although Malfoy did his fair share of evil (but still he wasn't able to kill Dumbledore and sort of disobey the death heaters by not identifying Harry... I guess he's not 'totally lost').

On a different note, having re-read HP 1 now, there's something I don't quite understand. We know from that book and No 7 that Snape was trying to prevent Quirell from getting the philosopher's stone, yet both he and Dumbledore suspected that Voldemort was behind Quirell. So how come Voldemort, who apparently always thought Snape to be on his side, 'forgave' him later from getting in Quirell's way ?

Beowulf

30th-July-2007, 01:09 PM

Speaking of the sorting hat..

I've been sorted ;)

http://nimbo.net/quiz/gryff.gif

Apparently I'm with Harry (http://nimbo.net/quiz/houses.html) . even though I thought I was more likely to be in Hufflepuff :wink:

NZ Monkey

30th-July-2007, 01:30 PM

On a different note, having re-read HP 1 now, there's something I don't quite understand. We know from that book and No 7 that Snape was trying to prevent Quirell from getting the philosopher's stone, yet both he and Dumbledore suspected that Voldemort was behind Quirell. So how come Voldemort, who apparently always thought Snape to be on his side, 'forgave' him later from getting in Quirell's way ?When Bellatrix questions him about this in HBP Snape tells her that he thought Voldemort was dead and that Quirrel was acting on his own. Snape confessed to having a cushy job somewhere he wasn't villified for being an ex-Death Eater constantly and had Dumbledores protection. He wanted to keep it that way.

Caro

30th-July-2007, 01:42 PM

When Bellatrix questions him about this in HBP Snape tells her that he thought Voldemort was dead and that Quirrel was acting on his own. Snape confessed to having a cushy job somewhere he wasn't villified for being an ex-Death Eater constantly and had Dumbledores protection. He wanted to keep it that way.

cheers NZM, I had forgotten about that indeed :nice:

Lou

30th-July-2007, 07:47 PM

I've been sorted ;)

http://nimbo.net/quiz/gryff.gif
http://nimbo.net/quiz/slyth2.gif :wink:

David Franklin

30th-July-2007, 11:35 PM

Here is a (long) webchat discussion where JK Rowling answers a lot of questions post-DH:

Harry Potter Fan Zone | News Archive (http://www.harrypotterfanzone.com/fusion/fullnews.php?id=2066)

Enjoy!

Baruch

31st-July-2007, 03:25 AM

I've been sorted ;)

http://nimbo.net/quiz/gryff.gif

Here's mine:

http://nimbo.net/quiz/raven.gif

NZ Monkey

31st-July-2007, 04:45 AM

Here is a (long) webchat discussion where JK Rowling answers a lot of questions post-DH:

Harry Potter Fan Zone | News Archive (http://www.harrypotterfanzone.com/fusion/fullnews.php?id=2066)

Enjoy!Thanks for that David!

Barry Shnikov

31st-July-2007, 12:44 PM

Iall in all a good read.. even if at times it read more like a camping book than a harry potter novel.

That was my abiding impression.

Mezzosoprano

31st-July-2007, 08:32 PM

I can't do the link... but apparently I'm a Gryffindor....

Gadget

1st-August-2007, 12:48 PM

Mini Mac

7th-August-2007, 02:39 PM

I got the book of my cousin, well i um borrowed it lol! And finished it in a couple of days heres my review on it all

A few things i was unhappy about....

The deaths of...

Alastor (Mad Eye) Moody

Dobby the House Elf

Fred Weasly

Remus John Lupin

Nympadora Tonks

Ted Tonks

and of course...

Hedwig

Colin Creevey

and in a way....

Severus Snape

Things i was happy about...

Kreacher turning to the good side

Ron and Hermione marrying and having 2 children

Ginny and Harry marrying and having 3 children

Dumbledore appearing again to help

Voldemort dying (well obviously)

Vincent Crabbe dying

and of course....

Bellatrix Lestrange being killed by a furious Molly Weasly, NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU BITCH!

Things i was surprised to find out...

Draco Malfoy owned the Elder Wand

Ron Weasly could speak parseltongue

The story of the three brothers

Xenophilius Lovegood making an appearance

Luna Lovegoods pictures of Harry, Ron, Hermione, Ginny and Neville as her "friends".

Poor George Weasly losing his ear

Percy Weasly making peace with his family.

Severus Snape being in love with Lily Potter

Overall i enjoyed the book but it wasnt my favourite book out of the whole series. I cant believe its all over now :really:

Dreadful Scathe

16th-August-2007, 12:39 PM

Finished it last week. Pretty good, and far better than book 6.

A quite satisfying finish, fairly predictable but good nonetheless.

Things i was surprised to find out...

Draco Malfoy owned the Elder Wand
Ron Weasly could speak parseltongue
The story of the three brothers
Xenophilius Lovegood making an appearance
Luna Lovegoods pictures of Harry, Ron, Hermione, Ginny and Neville as her "friends".
Poor George Weasly losing his ear
Percy Weasly making peace with his family.
Severus Snape being in love with Lily Potter

I'm surprised you were surprised - do you not mean "interested" :)

Ron cant speak parseltongue - he just copied Harry.