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bigdjiver
25th-May-2007, 11:54 AM
history: I tried to respond to woodface's request for feedback, typing feverishly into a new post as the clip played, when my computer flipped out, literally. After a period of zilch it came back with my display tilted through 90 degrees. I had to go back to a restore point to recover. "There has to be a better way".

Idea: A reactometer tool as a stand alone website or as a tool integrated into clip sites like youtube or music sites like soundclick.

start by selecting a schema, entering notes, and then pasting in url of clip.
Mouseover start button at start of clip, then mouseover various controls, or operate sliders, to give reaction as clip plays. At end mouseover stop. The control then returns a pasteable url which will start both the clip window and a playback window.

The playback window gives a selection of playback schema, then a start button to click. The playback happens in one window as the clip plays in another.

The playback schema could be as simple as a % rating , novelty, in extremis as in animations of cheerleaders throwing bras in the air, or animals dumping. They could be useful, as in sports, a map showing what position you should have been in or pass you should have made.

In dance it could vary from thumbs up to thumbs down, or a diagram of parts of the body that were not where they should be, or suggested choreography, a dip here, a body roll there.

Any reactions? Additional ideas?

ducasi
25th-May-2007, 12:51 PM
Not a bad idea...

Flickr allows pictures to be annotated with comments (by the author only?).

It'd be cool if YouTube could allow instant annotations to their videos.

Perhaps you could suggest it to Google?

DavidY
25th-May-2007, 12:51 PM
history: I tried to respond to woodface's request for feedback, typing feverishly into a new post as the clip played, when my computer flipped out, literally. After a period of zilch it came back with my display tilted through 90 degrees. I had to go back to a restore point to recover. "There has to be a better way".On my PC at work, you can rotate the display instantly by using Ctrl-Alt-{arrow key} (different arrows =different direction of screen). The physical display (TFT panel thingy) rotates as well. It's quite handy if you want to read an A4 document for instance.

bigdjiver
25th-May-2007, 01:01 PM
Not a bad idea...

Flickr allows pictures to be annotated with comments (by the author only?).

It'd be cool if YouTube could allow instant annotations to their videos.

Perhaps you could suggest it to Google?I had already posted it on usenet to let the wind blow the seeds where it will.

EricD
25th-May-2007, 04:26 PM
BBC have used phones for feedback:
BBC NEWS | Programmes | Daily Politics | Perception Panel: Tony Blair (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/the_daily_politics/5382160.stm)

Populus 'Message Meter' looks good:
Populus Survey : (http://www.populuslimited.com/Budget/BrownadminVoting.html) Brown
Populus Survey : (http://www.populuslimited.com/DC/CameronadminVoting.html) Cameron
Populus Survey : (http://www.populuslimited.com/TB/BlairadminVoting.html) Blair

It would be ideal for perfecting that routine move-by-move.

I have some doubts about people twiddling knobs in a 'dial group':
eye-tracking, pulse-rate monitoring and pupil-dilation measurement could be better indicators !

Can you post a Google Groups link to the Usenet thread, please ?

I'm not aware of an internet-based feedback solution,
but it probably exists as an AJAX project somewhere ...

bigdjiver
25th-May-2007, 06:00 PM
The National Grid demand and the water companies meters have also been used as measures of audience reaction. I cannot remember 'who', but when a particular artist came on in the middle of a hugely popular and long TV show, both sets of meters made a huge jump as people put the kettle on or went to the toilet.

Knob twiddling is a no-no in mybook, which is why I suggested mouseover events and distinct icons as targets.

bigdjiver
25th-May-2007, 11:04 PM
... Populus 'Message Meter' looks good:
Populus Survey : (http://www.populuslimited.com/Budget/BrownadminVoting.html) Brown
Populus Survey : (http://www.populuslimited.com/DC/CameronadminVoting.html) Cameron
Populus Survey : (http://www.populuslimited.com/TB/BlairadminVoting.html) Blair I wonder if it would look as good to the investors if they realised that all of their gizmos could be made almost redundant by a website?


It would be ideal for perfecting that routine move-by-move.Even with the ideas I have got now it seems to me that my way completely supersedes theirs.


I have some doubts about people twiddling knobs in a 'dial group':
eye-tracking, pulse-rate monitoring and pupil-dilation measurement could be better indicators ! possible with cheap hardware, and the rest is 'just software'.


Can you post a Google Groups link to the Usenet thread, please ?First called the 'clapometer', which word also return the definition as being a mythical surgical instrument used to determine if if someone has venereal disease.:eek: :clap: :confused:

Allegedly there are free apps that record the volume of applause through the mic socket, something I intend to follow up. I have twice downloaded alleged oscilloscope software from the web a while back which used the mic input, but both times my PC suffered a disaster before I got around to testing it.

Without learning my lesson I tried 'Reactometer' only to find that is used for an instrument to record reaction times. That definition could be easily extended, but it would not be good marketing to use the lesser word for the greater capability.

BTW (One of my stunts, way back, was to modify a Microsoft MSX Basic horse racing game to cycle through the nags with a discrete indicator on screen. It biased the speed of the nag to the volume of sound input. My family thought I was mad cheering my horse on ... and could never figure out why I kept winning.:devil: )


I'm not aware of an internet-based feedback solution,
but it probably exists as an AJAX project somewhere ...Its all been done before ...

My first major 'invention' turned out to have been running in 1924 :tears: , as the "Never stop" railway, remnants of which can allegedly be seen by Wembly Park Stn. It used a variable pitched screw drive, I think fluid would have been better.