Hammersmith 13th Jan(2rooms)

[jammy]

Hammersmith This Sat the 13th is to have two rooms

in the small hall down stairs the DJ is going to be Tiggerbabe!

this also the time of year for the teachers update so there will be loads of ceroc teachers from all over the uk there!

[Tinkerbell]

Sounds great, wish I could go :sad:

Catch up with you soon :hug:

[Cruella]

Oooooh Bonus. I was going anyway but this is great news!:clap:
(Can you make sure the blues room floor is better this time though)

[jammy]

Oooooh Bonus. I was going anyway but this is great news!:clap:
(Can you make sure the blues room floor is better this time though)

i will do my damdest

[Zebra Woman]

i will do my damdest

We know you will Jammy :hug: .

I'll be there with a collection of my slippiest shoes.

[Paul F]

Sounds good (as long as the blues room floor is better of course :wink: )

[WittyBird]

I was going anyway but all I'm interested in now is......

If Tiggerbabe's DJ'ing where's the after party? :wink:

[fletch]

(Can you make sure the blues room floor is better this time though)


OOOi'm having second thoughts now if the floor in the blues room is bad

:rolleyes:

Sounds good (as long as the blues room floor is better of course :wink: )

what do you think Paul shall we go sonewhere else :wink:





If Tiggerbabe's DJ'ing where's the after party? :wink:


ooo Party :clap: now your talking i'm coming :D



I'll be there with a collection of my slippiest shoes.

i'm not sure what shoes to wear with my 'play boy' out fit :blush:

:wink:

[Jamie]

I'm going! Woo!!

[fletch]

I'm going! Woo!!

I hope you don't snore :na:

[jammy]

Who else is coming

[Dai]

i might be!! Need to get lots of work done first though!!

[WittyBird]

I hope you don't snore :na:

Hey - it doesn't matter if he does or not, you're in the shed with Caz :wink: :rofl:

Actually, you can have him. Last time I slept with him I ended up with a Jamie blanket and looking like the worlds best contortionist :rofl:

[Jamie]

i might be!! Need to get lots of work done first though!!

You better be!!! :tears:

[Dai]

lol is that a threat!! :eek:

RAAAAAAAAAA!!!

:rofl:

[Jamie]

More of a Desperate Plea!! LOL

EEEEEK :eek:

[David Bailey]

Here's my carefully-considered answer (http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/showthread.php?p=321692)...

[WittyBird]

Here's my carefully-considered answer (http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/showthread.php?p=321692)...

I think there is a really happy hoover waiting for you somewhere. You should rename yourself MR MOTIVATOR :rolleyes:

You could suck a good mood out of the tweenies.

[Trousers]

Maybe some one can drag him there. . . . .




damn there goes subtlety

[tiger]

DJ; do come along to hammersmith on sat.

We need you to comment on the hotshottery,refusal row, blues room experts,all the luvviness and more.

Come on David you know the forum loves you.:wink:

[Yliander]

Who else is comingIf I can get hold of the car i'll be there

[David Bailey]

DJ; do come along to hammersmith on sat.

You're just saying that 'coz you know everyone wants permission to shoot me.

No, sorry - it was disappointing last time, even without the cliquefest, so I imagine it'll be a nightmare with it.

Hanmersmith is pants. I have spoken.

[under par]

DJ; do come along to hammersmith on sat.

We need you to comment on the hotshottery,refusal row, blues room experts,all the luvviness and more.

.:wink:

From past experience I think DJ does that much better when he doesn't attend!!:wink:

[under par]

Can anyone help me out.... we are considering the jaunt up to London for Hammersmith but needed to know the finish time.

The Ceroc London website click for 13th Jan links to Hammersmith Xmas Party finishing at 0200 hours...:confused: :confused:

I am sure they have already held their Xmas party so what is the finish time on Saturday????

Please make it be a late one:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

[Tiggerbabe]

Blues room is open from 9pm-1am, so I'd guess chucking out time is 1.05 :)

[Missy D]

I might come along for an hour or so.

Got to see if I can beat my 3 refusals in a row record.

[fletch]

We need you to comment on the hotshottery,refusal row, blues room experts,all the luvviness and more.



I will be giving the refusal row my utmost attention :wink:

any one know if Barry is going ? :innocent:


I might come along for an hour or so.

Got to see if I can beat my 3 refusals in a row record.

OK babes when you get there shall we have an hour seen how many times we can get refused :whistle: :na:

I had my best/worst refusal at Hammersmith, the poor bloke danceced with me in the end just to shut me up and get rid of me :rofl: and he wasn't all that, it wasn't worth the effort, cheeky begger :mad:

[Andy McGregor]

I will be giving the refusal row my utmost attention :wink:

any one know if Barry is going ? :innocent:



OK babes when you get there shall we have an hour seen how many times we can get refused :whistle: :na:

I had my best/worst refusal at Hammersmith, the poor bloke danceced with me in the end just to shut me up and get rid of me :rofl: and he wasn't all that, it wasn't worth the effort, cheeky begger :mad:I'm currently a Hammersmith virgin. I keep hearing about the "Refusal Row" :confused:

Is refusal row like the "back nine"?
Does each hole have a specific par figure?
Are there bunkers?
Dog-legs? :wink:
Can I use a buggy to get around them?

I'm guessing it's a row of ladies, sat by the stage, who don't dance with us mortals, but I could be wrong. It happens that I'm not planning anything on Saturday night, UP seems like he's driving up there, sounds like "refusal o'clock" to me :whistle:

Of course, I don't need to travel all the way to Hammersmith to get refused, I've been turned down four times at one dance in Southampton :tears:

[Andy McGregor]

Is refusal row like the "back nine"?
Does each hole have a specific par figure?
Are there bunkers?
Dog-legs? :wink: I might even do some special "Refusal T shirts". What I need is something to write on the back so they read it when I walk away...

.. I've been refused by better dancers than you!
.. I was only offering you a charity dance!
.. I suppose a s**g's out of the question then? :devil:
.. Bitch!!!

Any other suggestions?

[WittyBird]

Any other suggestions?

.....Jeez, and I thought I was arrogant.

.....For faces like that, there's always the paper bag.

.....Must be difficult dancing with feet in your mouth.

.....Learn to refuse with dignity & respect contact Vince on 07*** ******

[David Bailey]

I'm guessing it's a row of ladies, sat by the stage, who don't dance with us mortals,
Pretty much - although reputedly it's been even worse than that - "Audition Avenue", where you have to audition in front of the Avenue-ers before they'll consent to dance with you. This is just a rumour of course... :devil:

Oh, and heh heh, I dug up this quote from the equivalent thread a year ago:

You've never seen a tight-knit clique of hotshots until you've tried Hammersmith on the CTA update weekend.
I wonder if he has the same attitude now...? :whistle:

Although to be fair, he does qualify it with:

It's the one night a year when all the teachers get to dance with each other, and for fun. It's hardly a surprise that they aren't, unlike almost every other Ceroc event they go to, keen to dance with your average punter.

Interesting thread, that, if I say so myself - it'll also be interesting to compare it with this year's comments...

[David Bailey]

I might even do some special "Refusal T shirts". What I need is something to write on the back so they read it when I walk away...

.. I've been refused by better dancers than you!
.. I was only offering you a charity dance!
.. I suppose a s**g's out of the question then? :devil:
.. Bitch!!!

Any other suggestions?
Good ones, but you need it to be much shorter than that to be readable - and remember these people can't read very well because they're stupid also...

So I'd recommend something like "Charity Dancer" :)

I vaguely recall LMC and Dizzy doing a "refusal competition" thing at Hammersmith a while back (a year or more ago), don't ask me the details though.

[Double Trouble]

I so want to get a T-Shirt for Camber that says on the front...'Hello Sexy' and on the back says ' you stink of fish and garlic you smelly git'

It saves me actually saying to them...which is usually the case in about 8 out of ten dances.:D

[Clive Long]

... ' you stink of fish and garlic you smelly git'
....
Mmmmm ....

Fish cooked in garlic sauce. My favourite. :drool:

I suppose a sh*g is out of the question?

Wodge

[Double Trouble]

Mmmmm ....

Fish cooked in garlic sauce. My favourite. :drool:

I suppose a sh*g is out of the question?

Wodge

:rofl: have some rep Clive...and the answer is...err.....no.

[Double Trouble]

:rofl: have some rep Clive...and the answer is...err.....no.

I mean yes.......it is out of the question. :D

[David Bailey]

Mmmmm ....

Fish cooked in garlic sauce. My favourite. :drool:
Ah, that explains why you stayed upstairs last time... more air to circulate :whistle:

[fletch]

I'm currently a Hammersmith virgin. I keep hearing about the "Refusal Row" :confused:

Is refusal row like the "back nine"?
Does each hole have a specific par figure?
Are there bunkers?
Dog-legs? :wink:
Can I use a buggy to get around them?

I'm guessing it's a row of ladies, sat by the stage, who don't dance with us mortals, Of course, I don't need to travel all the way to Hammersmith to get refused, I've been turned down four times at one dance in Southampton :tears:

Since when have YOU been a 'mortal' anyway


I might even do some special "Refusal T shirts"... I've been refused by better dancers than you!
.. I was only offering you a charity dance!
.. I suppose a s**g's out of the question then? :devil:




I like all 3 off these :D



I wonder if witty still has that 't' shirt with the moverble letters :confused:

only problem it wont match my stupidly priced 'out fit' for Saturday :waycool:

'Orgasmic Mark' dances at Hammersmith, now there's a garenteed refusal:(

[WittyBird]

I wonder if witty still has that 't' shirt with the moverble letters :confused:


Oh yes, Id forgotten about that :D

Sir Silver of Fox has given me a good idea to put on that.

You're such a cheeky :watt: :rofl:
Infact best idea rec'd will be worn on it on Saturday night :D

[fletch]

So are you going to ask 'orgasmic Mark':whistle:

:rofl:

[Double Trouble]

'Orgasmic Mark' dances at Hammersmith, now there's a garenteed refusal:(

Please tell me Fletch, that you are not talking about spin dryer.

He's arrogant and conceited enough without you giving him a name like that.:rolleyes:

[fletch]

Please tell me Fletch, that you are not talking about spin dryer.

He's arrogant and conceited enough without you giving him a name like that.:rolleyes:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

No don't tell me you don't know who 'Orgasmic Mark' is,:whistle: you will know him, there is a large photo of him on the back of the Southport brouchure from September, he is with 'Tas' :drool:

ok I have strange taste I know :blush:

[mick s]

Is it pay at the door as usual?

[Northants Girly]

'Orgasmic Mark' dances at Hammersmith, now there's a garenteed refusal:(Actually managed to get him to dance with me the other week :really:

Can't say the earth moved for me though . . . . :whistle:

[fletch]

Actually managed to get him to dance with me the other week :really:

Can't say the earth moved for me though . . . . :whistle:

WOW

come on Linda whats the secret :D

I have to say the magic has gone now he has a girlfriend,:tears: don't think she would approve,:na: he is defiantly holding back these days:wink:


:rofl:

[tiger]

DJ; how could you want to miss out on all this entertainment?

There will be a competition between the girls to see who can get the most refusals.
A blues room entry card system; if you've no card or dont make the grade, you aint coming in.
A bespoke t-shirt seller doing record business throughout the evening.

A prize for the best refusal line: presented by either the Fox or the Refuser.

A wide variety of tunes upstairs and almost static dancing downstairs.

The BBC will have a reporter there incase there's any 'breaking news' eg an unknown in the bluesroom or no refusals seen or heard upstairs.

DJ; i'd like you to be the first person that the BBC speak to; so you can give them a good idea of whats likely to happen and then i'd like you to speak to them in the aftermath of the event with a full rundown of what actually happened.

The local bookmaker has shown some interest in this event and will be giving good odds for those of you that like a flutter.

See you there DJ.:wink:

[CentrAlex]

Rock on baby WOOWOO!!

I am so there!

[drathzel]

i'll be there!!! i want lots of dances from everyone please!:clap:

[jammy]

Is it pay at the door as usual?

Yes pay on the door £10 with membership card

[David Bailey]

DJ; how could you want to miss out on all this entertainment?

Watch me. Or, rather, don't, 'coz I won't be there.

Although someone did threaten to bring a cardboard cutout along for target practice...

[stewart38]

I might come along for an hour or so.

Got to see if I can beat my 3 refusals in a row record.

with lots of teachers going you should be able to beat that :sad:

[CentrAlex]

with lots of teachers going you should be able to beat that :sad:

OFFENDED...I am a teacher and I NEVER refuse a dance unless injured or dripping wet and need to change :mad:

[Double Trouble]

OFFENDED...I am a teacher and I NEVER refuse a dance unless injured or dripping wet and need to change :mad:

We should have you stuffed and mounted. :D

[fletch]

OFFENDED...I am a teacher and I NEVER refuse a dance unless injured or dripping wet and need to change :mad:

:yeah:


We should have you mounted. :D


:eek: :wink: :D

[WittyBird]

We should have you stuffed and mounted. :D

Quite often he is :whistle: :rofl:

Sorry babes :worthy:

[fletch]

Quite often he is :whistle: :rofl:

Sorry babes :worthy:

snap :rofl:

just what I was thinking :na:

but only mmmmmmm times last year :wink: :D

[CentrAlex]

Quite often he is :whistle: :rofl:

Sorry babes :worthy:

Just because your jealous...Loreal moment, because you're so NOT worth it!

[CentrAlex]

snap :rofl:

just what I was thinking :na:

but only mmmmmmm times last year :wink: :D

You two wait until Saturday :angry:

Or shall I start naming names now Witty??? ;)

[fletch]

You two wait until Saturday :angry:

Or shall I start naming names now Witty??? ;)

Noooooo im eating :sick:

:rofl:

[WittyBird]

Just because your jealous...Loreal moment, because you're so NOT worth it!

Ya love me really :snigger:




Or shall I start naming names now Witty??? ;)

Shall I?:wink:

[fletch]

Shall I?:wink:


don't go there :sick:

sorry I take it all back :wink:


:D

[CentrAlex]

don't go there :sick:

sorry I take it all back :wink:


:D

Forgiven...but I had better get a couple of dances off you now!

[DD+]

hey witty / fletch, dont forget to save me a dance too, please!:flower:

[David Bailey]

OFFENDED...I am a teacher and I NEVER refuse a dance unless injured or dripping wet and need to change :mad:
Oh right, well that's OK then - I'm convinced.

Seriously, so what? One example doth not a rule make or whatever.

And the argument made by ESG on the equivalent thread from last year (http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7518) still makes sense to me, what part of it do you disagree with?

There's also a debate on this thread (http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7533) about Hammersmith vs. Chiswick (last year). Didn't see much complaining about refuse-niks, so the entire discussion may be completely irrelevant.

[WittyBird]

hey witty / fletch, dont forget to save me a dance too, please!:flower:

You are always on my dance card babes...

Cos you is well good at it :D

[CentrAlex]

Oh right, well that's OK then - I'm convinced.

Seriously, so what? One example doth not a rule make or whatever.

And the argument made by ESG on the equivalent thread from last year (http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7518) still makes sense to me, what part of it do you disagree with?



Yes it is a time when all of the teachers can get together and have a social night and some fun dancing, but I would still never refuse a dance without a legit reason...maybe I am one of the few!

However, ESG is also a teacher now so it will be interesting of his views now considering he is a member of the tight-clique of hotshots as he describes us!

[fletch]

Forgiven...but I had better get a couple of dances off you now!

:clap: :yeah: :worthy:


hey witty / fletch, dont forget to save me a dance too, please!:flower:

:clap: :yeah: :worthy:



You are always on my dance card babes...

Cos you is well good at it :D


:yeah:


innnit!:D

[Jamie]

*Feels left out*

I better get some dances!! :tears:

[Cruella]

OFFENDED...I am a teacher and I NEVER refuse a dance unless injured or dripping wet and need to change :mad:

Except when your partner laughs at you. :whistle:

[Cruella]

*Feels left out*

I better get some dances!! :tears:

Aww, I'll give you one Jamie.:D

[WittyBird]

I better get some dances!! :tears:

You're mine :na:

Be afraid..... be very afraid :waycool:

[fletch]

You're mine :na:

Be afraid..... be very afraid :waycool:

fight you for him :na:

come to me little boy :wink: I will look after you I have some sweates in my pocket :devil:

[TheTramp]

Aww, I'll give you one Jamie.:D

It's comments like that which scare away the beginners! Poor Jamie, only been dancing less than a year. Wonder if we'll ever see him again! :rolleyes:

[WittyBird]

come to me little boy :wink: I will look after you I have some sweates in my pocket :devil:

You're priceless, you really are :rofl:

[Andy McGregor]

Since when have YOU been a 'mortal' anyway?Hey, I'm still trying for "human" :wink:

[fletch]

Hey, I'm still trying for "human" :wink:

Andy how can 'a god' be human :worthy:

save me a mad dance later :hug:

[Andy McGregor]

Andy how can 'a god' be human :worthy:

save me a mad dance later :hug:The next time I ask you for a dance, could you answer "I don't fancy a dance, how about a sh*g?".



.. sorry, my mind's going, that was the answer you gave me last time:whistle:

[Jamie]

Aww, I'll give you one Jamie.:D

:what:




...



MUMMY!!! :tears:

[tiger]

Back on thread....

DJ: What would it take for you to be there on sat. What would make a good night for you?

[Yliander]

i'll be there!!! i want lots of dances from everyone please!:clap::clap: :clap: :clap: look forward to seeing you!!!! :hug:

love it when a plan comes together - have wrangled a lift in and a fourmite :flower: has offered me a lift home!!!

[David Bailey]

Back on thread....
My social plans are "on thread"? :what:


DJ: What would it take for you to be there on sat. What would make a good night for you?
At Hammersmith? Nuking the place from orbit, basically - it's the only way to be sure.

[Caz]

looking forward to tonight at hammersmith.. first time there so a little nervous but want lots of dances..gonna lead loads of dances tho - check me out lol

[Double Trouble]

Hammersmith? Nuking the place from orbit, basically - it's the only way to be sure.

DJ.....I feel like you are trying to tell us something. Please......dont beat around the bush, tell us how you really feel.:D

[SuzyQ]

My social plans are "on thread"? :what:


At Hammersmith? Nuking the place from orbit, basically - it's the only way to be sure.

You know what - I think I have a touch of the DJs after last night's Hammersmith. I had a terrible night. Too many cliques ... too many hotshots ... and the music really didn't make me want to dance.

Felt like a leper most of the night.

[David Bailey]

Blast, what a shame I missed it.

I can't see too many "Oh, what a wonderful night it was, you missed a classic, David you fool" posts yet...:whistle: :innocent:

[Kev F]

Blast, what a shame I missed it.

I can't see too many "Oh, what a wonderful night it was, you missed a classic, David you fool" posts yet...:whistle: :innocent:

Oh, what a wonderful night it was, you missed a classic, David you fool. :whistle:

[under par]

Oh, what a wonderful night it was, you missed a classic, David you fool!

Well Mrs Par and I both had a great night. Mrs Par trailed the light fandango chasing dances with all the cta men and tells me she had some fantastic dances.. which is probably inversely proportionate with her lack of dances with me.:eek:

For me the blues room was brill. Tiggerbabe :worthy: :worthy: :yeah: simply brilliant set kept the room buzzing all night.:worthy: :worthy:

For me I had a great Hammersmith upstairs was less busy than usual and a moderate amount of room to dance most of the time when I popped upstairs for a change of tempo.
If there was any downside it is the lack of gender balancing... there were too many ladies stood at the side waiting for a dance to the great music.. I do feel so sorry for these dancers who are not provided for .

I did use up 10 shirts which would have been more had it not been for the jet engine fans used in attempt to keep the room temps down.

Loads and loads of fab dances with so many forumites and as always a very funny moment involving ZW, a fan, SF and a suspender belt!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Pizza with Franck and Sheena at the end topped of a great night out dancing.

It was my best ever Hammersmith.What made the difference for me was the Blues room and Sheenas music.

I would have reservations about attending again without the blues room being open.

Big thanks to Jammy who appeared to be everywhere working his socks off. Have a night off today and go dancing:cheers: :cheers:

[Claire S]

Blast, what a shame I missed it.

I can't see too many "Oh, what a wonderful night it was, you missed a classic, David you fool...:whistle: :innocent:Oh, what a wonderful night it was, you missed a classic, David you fool :whistle: :D












I enjoyed it.... I really did!
Fab music, lots of lovely dancers, some really fantastic dances & for the wee while that it was too crowded in the blues room I had a drink upstairs with some friends.
All good :D

[Patrick]

You know what - I think I have a touch of the DJs after last night's Hammersmith. I had a terrible night. Too many cliques ... too many hotshots ... and the music really didn't make me want to dance.

Felt like a leper most of the night.

Sorry it didn't go well for you Suzy. I planned to go, but decided it was too far to travel given the risk of being too crowded (or cliquey). Watched Harry Potter instead. :confused:

OTOH, I did miss the rare chance of a dance with Clare S :sad:

Perhaps someone should start a leper's clique - may solve the problem. Or a leper's corner instead of the taxi corner.. :wink:

[CentrAlex]

Well what can I say...I had an absolutely amazing night...it was the perfect way of ending such a long day! Albeit I was a little drunk so if you spoke to me I more than likely won't remember what I said!!

As for the blues room...fantastic...hats off to ya tiggerbabe :clap: :worthy:

Thank you to all who danced with me

Big up yaself!!

Peace Out!

xx

[WittyBird]

I had an awesome night at Hammersmith, one of the best yet!
Like last night, I didn't have a bad dance all night.

The combination of Friday and Saturday night felt like a pre Southport warm up.

I didn't see a refusal row, nor acts of hotshotism or cliqueyness.

Loved the music. :worthy:

I found it strange how there was a full 2 hours of tango music played :whistle: Gave me an awful headache :rolleyes:

Blues room got far too crowded and had to brave upstairs which was equally as chocca.

Wouldn't have missed it though, great atmosphere and fantastic dancers, what more could a girl want?

[Yliander]

Mostly a great night - saw lots of friends and had many lovely dances. There did seem to be a rather large clique in one corner by the stage early in the evening - but it seem to dissapaite as the night progressed.

I met several more Fourimites and even danced with several of them:clap: Even managed to get a dance with the ever busy everywhere Jammy

The blues room was great!!! although it got very crowded and sometimes floorcraft left something to be desired. I also enjoyed some really fun dances in the main room as well.

the only downside for me was one young gentleman whom I asked for a dance in the blues room who replied- next song you know where I am - which was fine although I thought it was abit rude - except that when I approached him to have the promised dance several songs later - I had been busy dancing - he seemed determined not to see me - after this happened 2 times - I decided it was his loss - if he didn't want to dance with me - a simple no thank you at the start would have been nicer.

[fletch]

WOW!

Fab, Fab, Fab.

I didn't get refused at all :cheers: and couldn't' get off the dance floor, not that I wanted to.:clap:

Was it me ? or was every one up for a fun time.:clap:

I had some fab dances:worthy:

ESG, i'm going to get you clubbing if it kills me :na:

Roger Chin :eek: :wink: :D

Ben..6666 or number whatever, what fun, I hope you come to Evesham:flower:

Fankie...from Croydon he has only been dancing for 12 months (another Jamie):worthy:

Chris A........SouthPort:drool:

Frank......niffty footwork :respect:

Centralex....our best yet :love:

Jamie you boost my cred :worthy:

DD+ i needed more :flower:





If I have missed any one sorry, but I drove home in the end, got back at 7.30 and only 3 hours sleep this weekend, I need a nap.:sick:

[Spin dryer]

A great night following on from the high of Utopia on Friday. It's many years since Hammersmith has had such a great buzz. Lovely to see so many happy faces.

On the 3 previous occasions that there has been a blues room it killed the atmosphere in the main room. This time there were enough decent dancers to keep both rooms vibrant.

[Twirly]

Had a good night too, though was a bit apprehensive after what was said about hotshots etc. Thought it might be a night to watch rather than dance, but I danced plenty - and was extremely pleased as I felt I was dancing much better than I have for months, so maybe I'm out of my dancing doldrums :clap:

Didn't venture downstairs, so didn't see many forumites (apart from ClaireS in the ladies just as I arrived - lovely dress btw). Was having fun upstairs and not confident with blues - sat there just watching last time. Shame as it would have been nice to have met a few more of you :(

Seemed busier than usual, but not as bad as the Christmas party.

[stewart38]

On the 3 previous occasions that there has been a blues room it killed the atmosphere in the main room. This time there were enough decent dancers to keep both rooms vibrant.

No Hotshots there then :whistle:

[under par]

No Hotshots there then :whistle:

Oh Stewart !! throwing cheap brick bats around again??

What is it with certain forumites ???:mad: :angry: lots of people dance and have a good time they have to be accused/tarred with insinuation and smug knowing winks about some purile
accusation they are "hotshot" with all the attached negative bullsh@t connatations that definition has about how dancers supposedly treat each other.

How come most of the forumites who slur other dancers at a particular event hardly ever go along themselves to see how nice most people treat each other in the main.

Get a life or go to an approprate thread and post your inane accusations there.
I had a great night so did Mrs Par.

[Jamie]

I had a wicked night, had some fantastic dances, both upstairs and down...

Tiggerbabe, music was awesome baby!!!

Fletch baby, only 2 dances, I'm dissapointed! Witty, you know my thoughts babe!... DD, luv dancing with you hunny! and of course, RobD... Nuff said!!

Could sit naming names but would take too long!! Thanks everyone for my dances, and Sparkles, I want leading next time please darling! XX

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

P.S. I didn't notice any hotshots.. or much cliqueyness going on... :really:

[Zebra Woman]

Oh, what a wonderful night it was, you missed a classic, David you fool!


:yeah:




For me the blues room was brill. Tiggerbabe :worthy: :worthy: :yeah: simply brilliant set kept the room buzzing all night.:worthy: :worthy:


The music was just compelling, well done Sheena :respect: .
It was almost too good. 2 down sides:

1 - The huge number of spare women sittng waiting to dance. I saw 4 women pounce simultaneously at one point (and I was one of them :blush: ).

2 - The blues room became so busy at one point it was not possible to dance properly at all:mad: . I don't know much about upstairs. I came up twice and had 3 dances up there in the whole evening. I heard some fab tracks being played up there and eventually it became less crowded up there than the blues room! Amazing...




Loads and loads of fab dances with so many forumites and as always a very funny moment involving ZW, a fan, SF and a suspender belt!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



An alleged suspender belt, I think you'll find, 'Detective Inspector' Par :innocent::rofl: .



Pizza with Franck and Sheena at the end topped of a great night out dancing.


How lucky was I? The only person who liked balck olives :grin: mmmm Thank you :hug: .



It was my best ever Hammersmith.What made the difference for me was the Blues room and Sheenas music.


Yes my favourite Hammersmith too, for several reasons...:drool: , Sheena being a very big one :clap: .

Please come back .

[Russell Saxby]

I didn't get refused at all :cheers: and couldn't' get off the dance floor, not that I wanted to.:clap:

I came looking for you after my dance with Di, but you had dissappeared :tears:

[fletch]

I came looking for you after my dance with Di, but you had dissappeared :tears:

Russell, to me a reffusal is when someone looks you up and down and says NO! I don't count genuine reasons as a reffusal, :respect: I miss your houmor fab to see you :hug:

I didn't have a reffusal last night unlike Friday, thank you David James for our lovely dance after my reffusal and for been one of those rare breads of men that can actually see thought me :tears: :love:

[SuzyQ]

OK ... everyone else LOVED Hammersmith and had a great night

Am in my own club

Sometimes the huge number of women means us lesser mortals (who don't like to pounce on weary males) don't get a look in - life sucks

Am either gonna have to get pushy or get better (so I can be a hotshot)! Or perhaps shrink myself in the wash.

Did have a couple of lovely dances with some forumites who rescued me at key moments so thank you to them!

[David Bailey]

OK ... everyone else LOVED Hammersmith and had a great night

Am in my own club
The best dancer I know - someone who can enjoy almost any occasion - said it was crowded and it had a big dose of hotshottery. So you're not alone.

[ALexyMiss]

I had a fab night! :clap:

Had some great dances with lots of people I've come to know over the last few months :flower: - thanks for the dances from ESG, Kev F, Robd, Dirty D, Spindr and probably lots more who I don't know Forum names for! But I also plucked up the courage to boldly ask a few guys that I didn't know, who all gave me the benefit of the doubt :na: resulting in several fantastic dances :grin:

Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy it, SuzyQ - happens to everyone I'm sure every now and again - I'm sure it'll be a better night for you next time :flower:

[WittyBird]

The best dancer I know - someone who can enjoy almost any occasion - said it was crowded and it had a big dose of hotshottery. So you're not alone.

I never said any of that :rolleyes:

[Lory]

I never said any of that :rolleyes:

And I wasn't even there :confused:

[WittyBird]

And I wasn't even there :confused:

Exactly, hence the non existence of hotshottery :rofl:

[Lory]

Exactly, hence the non existence of hotshottery :rofl:

:really:

Smoked all those Cafe Creme's yet? :devil:

[WittyBird]

:really:

Smoked all those Cafe Creme's yet? :devil:

Haven't started yet :awe:

[Lory]

Haven't started yet :awe:

Actually, the sad fact is, DJ PM'd me today (about moderating business) and as a post script, he apologised for not dancing with me at Utopia, which would have been very sweet ;) if it wasn't for the fact that we did :tears:

[Sheepman]

Felt like a leper most of the night.
You still managed to outpace me when you were running away from me! :sad:


The blues room was great!!! although it got very crowded and sometimes floorcraft left something to be desired. What really gets me :angry: is when you're standing on the spot, (or just staying in the same space while moving around in circles,) and people still bump you, so they must be assuming the space is clear, without looking, "'cos it's other people's job to get out of their way."
And that included a couple of the teachers too, hardly a recommendation for their classes!

Yes I had a good night, especially with Sheena's great music, but the crowds & lack of floorcraft meant it just wasn't in the same league as Utopia.

Greg

[stewart38]

Oh Stewart !! throwing cheap brick bats around again??

What is it with certain forumites ???:mad: :angry: lots of people dance and have a good time they have to be accused/tarred with insinuation and smug knowing winks about some purile
accusation they are "hotshot" with all the attached negative bullsh@t connatations that definition has about how dancers supposedly treat each other.

How come most of the forumites who slur other dancers at a particular event hardly ever go along themselves to see how nice most people treat each other in the main.

Get a life or go to an approprate thread and post your inane accusations there.
I had a great night so did Mrs Par.

Ive found both rooms have decent dancers and are hence both 'vibrant'

Its not a slur on anyone. I dont want to people to get the idea the blues room is in someway better its just different

[TheTramp]

Oh, what a wonderful night it was, you missed a classic, David you fool

[TheTramp]

There did seem to be a rather large clique in one corner by the stage early in the evening

You mean a group of people that probably only get together once a year, and enjoy seeing their friends on that one occasion?

What is it with people, and their determinedness to see cliques everywhere? Why are people who go as a group of friends a clique to everyone who isn't in that circle of friends? :mad:

[fletch]

Sometimes the huge number of women means us lesser mortals (who don't like to pounce on weary males) don't get a look in - life sucks

Am either gonna have to get pushy or get better (so I can be a hotshot)! Or perhaps shrink myself in the wash.




Perhaps there is the clue, im very tall, OK not as tall as you c*w :wink: but I neaver stoped all night, infact I neaver went to the loo or got changed :sick: I was so busy I forgot.

I was asked by lots of people some I new and some I didn't,:clap: I also neaver got reffused and I did have a go at reffusers row, but no problem.:na:

But i'm not choisey, maybe that shows in my face ? :flower:

The best dancer I know - someone who can enjoy almost any occasion - said it was crowded and it had a big dose of hotshottery. So you're not alone.


Now that sounds as if I should have said that,:whistle: but it wasn't me :wink:

Perhaps not the Best dancer you know (tango) :sick:

[David Bailey]

You mean a group of people that probably only get together once a year, and enjoy seeing their friends on that one occasion?
Probably.


What is it with people, and their determinedness to see cliques everywhere? Why are people who go as a group of friends a clique to everyone who isn't in that circle of friends? :mad:
Errr, because that's what a clique is? It's another name for a "group" in other words... Why, what do you envisage a clique to be then? Or do you not believe there are any such things?

[fletch]

Mostly a great night - saw lots of friends and had many lovely dances. There did seem to be a rather large clique in one corner by the stage early in the evening - but it seem to dissapaite as the night progressed.

.


Thats proberbly because every one had said Hi to each other and then wandered off to dance with others, as freinds do :rolleyes:






2 down sides:



2 - The blues room became so busy at one point it was not possible to dance properly at all:mad:

.


I went up stairs at that piont having said Hi to everyone and danced at the back of the room it was ok there, but no HOTSHOTS :what:



What is it with people, and their determinedness to see cliques everywhere? Why are people who go as a group of friends a clique to everyone who isn't in that circle of friends? :mad:


I have found that somethimes its beacause they feel they are missing out on whats going on and want to be 'in on it' :sad:




Errr, because that's what a clique is? It's another name for a "group" in other words... Why, what do you envisage a clique to be then? Or do you not believe there are any such things?

Of cause there is you get them everywhere you don't have to be a hotshot or good dancer to be part of a clique, there was one at Wolverhampton on a Thursday when I used to go, anyone new and on there own was welcomed in and the group just go bigger, it doesn't have to be unfreindly :flower:

[Cruella]

Clique (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clique)
I disagree that the group is restricted, anyone is welcome to join in and interact with the other dancers. So who would the leaders be of this 'defined power structure'? The 10?

[David Bailey]

So who would the leaders be of this 'defined power structure'? The 10?
Hell, I thought it was you... :eek:

Darn. all that sucking-up to you was a complete waste of time then :tears:

[Cruella]

Hell, I thought it was you... :eek:
:

Sorry to disappoint but unfortunately i'm not a 10!

[Tiggerbabe]

I spent the entire evening in the Blues Room :D only danced about 4 times, but I had a brilliant night!
The atmosphere was buzzing! Jammy and Bradders had worked really hard getting the room ready for the dancers, and me, thanks guys :hug: . Mike was there too, making sure that everything was ok, and sorting out the temperature when it started to get a bit too hot.
First track, Lisa and her partner had the floor all to themselves :D and from then on the night just whizzed away, I couldn't believe it when it was 1am and time to stop playing :tears:
Pizza was fantastic, thanks UP :hug:

[CentrAlex]

You mean a group of people that probably only get together once a year, and enjoy seeing their friends on that one occasion?

What is it with people, and their determinedness to see cliques everywhere? Why are people who go as a group of friends a clique to everyone who isn't in that circle of friends? :mad:

:yeah:

I was with a group of peeps who were based down at the front of the stage and yes we are very close friends but we hardly saw eachother all night! Most of the time dancing with other people and flitting between the 2 rooms.

If you go with a group of friends, of course other people are going to think that you are in a clique, but, trampy said, doesn't everyone who isn't in that "clique".

I personally don't really notice cliques, just groups of people having a good time, and so they should!

[David Bailey]

If you go with a group of friends, of course other people are going to think that you are in a clique, but, trampy said, doesn't everyone who isn't in that "clique".
Well, yeah - so what? No-one in a clique thinks "Oh, look, I'm in a clique" :rolleyes:

[SuzyQ]

Right ... new strategy ... shall avoid looking forward to any event ... because as soon as I do you can bet I'll have a bad night!

Another new strategy ... keep neg thoughts/evaluations to myself rather than post on the forum ... because although some people are really sweet and send very lovely pms/reps to make it all better (thank you! :hug: ) ... others (probably not deliberately) make you feel worse by suggesting it was your fault.

For the record I am not choosy about who I dance with. However, I'm choosy enough to be wanting to dance rather than sit/stand out most of the night! :tears:

Girly strop over - new strategies implemented.

[Lory]

Well, yeah - so what? No-one in a clique thinks "Oh, look, I'm in a clique" :rolleyes:

This is getting on my nerves now...I think all this talk of cliques is a load of old rubbish! :yeah:

If its the case that a few people having a laugh together is seen as a clique, then i'm unashamedly part of a 'different' clique every time I go dancing.:waycool:

No one's ever excluded, quite the opposite in fact and if they think they are, then i'm afraid its their own, low self esteem or bloody mindedness to blame and nobody else's fault :devil:

I don't think it's the responsibility of anyone who happens to be popular or tends to gather a crowd, to worry about all the other people who for their own reasons, choose to exclude themselves. :rolleyes:

I see it more as an act of the self proclaimed outsiders snubbing the, so called clique, rather than the other way round!

Stick that in ya pipe and smoke it! :devil: :flower:

[David Bailey]

This is getting on my nerves now...I think all this talk of cliques is a load of old rubbish! :yeah:
Right, OK, that's me told then.

[Lory]

Right, OK, that's me told then.

:love: :D

[fletch]

Of cause there is you get them everywhere you don't have to be a hotshot or good dancer to be part of a clique, there was one at Wolverhampton on a Thursday when I used to go, anyone new and on there own was welcomed in and the group just go bigger, it doesn't have to be unfreindly :flower:


Well, yeah - so what? No-one in a clique thinks "Oh, look, I'm in a clique" :rolleyes:

Perhaps I should re phrase the above comment :flower:

I am lucky enough to know lots of people and stand with groups at times, I danced with CentraAlex down stairs in the corner where there were a group of friends, we also danced up stairs, where there were another group of friends, lovely it was too :drool: I try and be part of all groups, but that's because I like people :hug: some people aren't as confident as I am and when they are with people they feel comfertouble with they stay there, is that wrong?

I like to think i'm part of the 'clique' come join me I don't bite :wink: well not very often :whistle:

That why I move around cos I understand people don't wan't to come over if they don't know anyone, I regularly stand on my own away from anyone I know, trying to look vulnerable:wink: (no only joking:D ) that's how I have lucky finds, Saturday's was Frankie from Newbury.:worthy:

[SuzyQ]

Stick that in ya pipe and smoke it! :devil: :flower:
Nearly choked on the smoke :sad:



If it's the case that a few people having a laugh together is seen as a clique, then i'm unashamedly part of a 'different' clique every time I go dancing.:waycool:
Couldn't agree more Lory - I could probably be accused of this most nights.


No one's ever excluded, quite the opposite in fact and if they think they are, then i'm afraid its their own, low self esteem or bloody mindedness to blame and nobody else's fault :devil:
There is a big difference between being bloody minded and having a 'bout' of the low self esteems!
If one of your friends/acquaintances happens to be having a low self-esteem night... isn't it nice to look out for them?! A glum face at a dance is often because someone is having a rubbish night and feeling just a tad insecure. So, if it is another girl it doesn't hurt to chat to them or dance with them?! Have done this on countless occasions ... and asked guys on the behalf of a girl who doesn't seem v happy ... and the smile when the guy goes over to ask them ... priceless. We all have the power to make things better for someone else ... or are we too busy enjoying dancing to think of our fellow human beings?!


I don't think it's the responsibility of anyone who happens to be popular or tends to gather a crowd, to worry about all the other people who for their own reasons, choose to exclude themselves. :rolleyes:
Do you really think that people choose to exclude themselves?! :confused:

If we are all gonna be selfish and shallow and not look out for people then I might have to re-evaluate whether I want to be part of that kind of community. Why not have a hippy love-fest instead?! :flower:

And now I'm confused cos Lory has just sent me the sweetest pm - we must be getting at different issues ... surely!

[TheTramp]

Errr, because that's what a clique is? It's another name for a "group" in other words... Why, what do you envisage a clique to be then? Or do you not believe there are any such things?

While I would agree that a clique is another word for a group, there is a further meaning implied, and that is one of exclusivity. And, when the subject is brought up on this forum, it is usually in a negative sense.

And, I always disagree with that. Except in the case of Jango. Obviously :whistle:

[Lory]

And now I'm confused cos Lory has just sent me the sweetest pm - we must be getting at different issues ... surely!

Hey, your lucky, I sent it before I read this! :devil:

Only joking! :hug:

I agree with a lot of what your saying and like you, I find it hard to enjoy myself 'if' I'm aware one of my friends is having a bad night. :sad:

But, there are definitely some folk who actively choose to exclude themselves and I'm sure most are happiest that way and good on them, cos they're probably not the ones who moan! :whistle:

But there are a section of people who seem to take pleasure in making it an 'us and them' game, by playing the poor selfless victim, and pointing a finger, blaming everything and everyone but themselves for their rubbish night. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry but playing the martyr and sitting with a forlorn face doesn't exactly inspire people to ask you to dance or join the 'party gang'

Just take the bull by the horns, don't wait to be asked, if you see some folk having a good time and want to be a part of it, just introduce yourself and join in! :clap:

Edit - BTW, this post wasn't directly aimed at you SuzyQ :flower:

[Barry Shnikov]

I had fun.

Although my lift wanted to leave early...:sad:

Nice music, nice dances (thanks to all) and I got to catch up with my first - and still arguably my best - Ceroc teacher, Mick Walker from Ceroc Central. She still looks gorgeous, and nowadays I don't feel quite so much of a mastodon with a gazelle when we are on the dance floor!

Quite a few other people I haven't seen for years as well.

[NZ Monkey]

This is getting on my nerves now...I think all this talk of cliques is a load of old rubbish! :yeah:

If its the case that a few people having a laugh together is seen as a clique, then i'm unashamedly part of a 'different' clique every time I go dancing.:waycool:

No one's ever excluded, quite the opposite in fact and if they think they are, then i'm afraid its their own, low self esteem or bloody mindedness to blame and nobody else's fault :devil:

I don't think it's the responsibility of anyone who happens to be popular or tends to gather a crowd, to worry about all the other people who for their own reasons, choose to exclude themselves. :rolleyes:

I see it more as an act of the self proclaimed outsiders snubbing the, so called clique, rather than the other way round!

Stick that in ya pipe and smoke it! :devil: :flower::yeah: Couldn't have put it better myself Lory :flower:


While I would agree that a clique is another word for a group, there is a further meaning implied, and that is one of exclusivity. And, when the subject is brought up on this forum, it is usually in a negative sense.

And, I always disagree with that. Except in the case of Jango. Obviously It's one thing to actively exclude people from a group, but I don’t think many people do that at all. Certainly none of the people I’ve met through dancing in London. The last time I saw behaviour like that was in high school…

I can’t think of any of the people I consider friends here who would turn somebody down without an extremely good reason, but we’d almost certainly be considered cliquey by anyone who wanted to complain about us. I agree with Lory about being popular, but I’ll phrase it slightly differently: If you already know and enjoy dancing with so many people in the room that you can’t possibly dance with all of them in the space of an evening, how much effort are you going to put into dancing with people you don’t know? Some, probably, but you’re hardly going to go out of your way to *avoid* dancing with your friends and if you have enough of them you’re going to wind up looking cliquey to anyone who thinks that they have the divine right for you to ask them to dance.

[under par]

Yet another great night of dancing is despoiled on the forum by accusations of "hotshots" "elitism" and "cliqueyness".

ARRGGHHH!!!
bangs head on desk!
Arrgghhhh!!!
bangs head on desk! again

Its getting to really p'ss me off.

Are you all going to the same events as we do??

I think I'm going to stop posting on aftermath threads its becoming so tedious.

Yawn ! Yawn!

For future reference Mrs Par and I will have a great night at all future events... just so you know.

And we will enjoy the company of whoever is there too.

[SuzyQ]

Flippin Nora ...

So result of this thread (post event) ... one person cannot say an honest 'I felt left out and didn't have a great night' without the weight of 90% of the forum coming down on them like a tonne of bricks!

I thought I was being touchy until a whole bunch of people went mental (mainly directed at me). Thanks for cheering me up by the way!

I rave about good nights regularly ... and try and include people in stuff I do. Now wondering why I bother!

[David Bailey]

I thought I was being touchy until a whole bunch of people went mental (mainly directed at me).
Nah, they're mainly having a go at me.

They're all just jealous of how cool we are, is all. :whistle: :na:

[Seahorse]

I thought I was being touchy until a whole bunch of people went mental (mainly directed at me). Thanks for cheering me up by the way!

...well if it's any consolation, you turned my evening around after a particularly unpleasant start. I met lots of new people and without sounding psychophantic, just thank Plum, CeeCee, Cruella, Bara Davies, Eleanor, AlexyMiss (blues???) and DD+ for making it a very memorable and enjoyable evening.

Chris

[David Bailey]

psychophantic
I like that word! :clap:

[stewart38]

Flippin Nora ...

So result of this thread (post event) ... one person cannot say an honest 'I felt left out and didn't have a great night' without the weight of 90% of the forum coming down on them like a tonne of bricks!

I thought I was being touchy until a whole bunch of people went mental (mainly directed at me). Thanks for cheering me up by the way!

I rave about good nights regularly ... and try and include people in stuff I do. Now wondering why I bother!

Have some rep :respect:

[Cruella]

I like that word! :clap:

So do i, what does it mean? Is it the same as sycophantic (http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/SYCOPHANTIC)? But flattering by telepathy?

[David Bailey]

So do i, what does it mean? Is it the same as sycophantic? But flattering by telepathy?
Actually, I imagined it as a stalker description - "psychotic sycophant" :)

Not that anyone I know would ever fit into that category. Oh no. :whistle:

[stewart38]

Nah, they're mainly having a go at me.



Yeah to that

Where were you when I got a puncture near hammersmith :mad:

[robd]

I had a fantastic night at Hammersmith though I ducked out of the action for half an hour around 11 to get a drink and allow the overcrowding downstairs to subside a little. When I returned I was treated to some of the most enjoyable dancing I have ever had. Great music from Sheena, a much improved floor in the small room compared with the pre-Xmas event and some fab partners all combined superbly. I enjoyed a little tango/jive fusion (can you guess who that was with? :grin: ), some basic WCS (many thanks to Almost An Angel for not making me suffer death by musicality :worthy: ) and a lot of great smooth blues (how nice to dance with some fantastic Scots ladies too :respect: ). However, perhaps my most memorable dance of the evening was leading Jamie - his following is remarkably good for a man :worthy: and he's cheekier than Dawn French's backside. Mike Ellard didn't look overly impressed dancing next to us though :blush:

I have emailed Ceroc London to congratulate them on the event. It's always nice to receive praise and if it encourages the continuation of 2 rooms at Hammersmith then all the better.

It is no surprise that this thread (and the Utopia one to an extent) has produced the same stuff about cliques and hotshots that I seem to remember accompanied the thread following the first Funky Lush (in whose shoes Utopia does seem to follow in some aspects and diverge in others). People should feel free to voice their opinions on these threads. Opinion by its nature is subjective and therefore we should not be trying to shout down differing opinions from our own nor suggesting that people are wrong. Their opinion is their opinion. No more, no less. I asked Suzy Q to dance on sat night and we enjoyed two fun tracks together (lots of wiggling :blush: ) so I was surprised to see she hadn't enjoyed the event but it was v crowded and there were lots more women than men and she's not a stalk and grab artist so I can see why it may not have been as enjoyable for her as for me.

On a different note, any teachers willing to share with us the contents of the update course? What fab/drab new move combinations can we expect to see this year?

Robert

[Clive Long]

Yeah to that

Where were you when I got a puncture near hammersmith :mad:

Laying the stinger nail trap in front of your car, Stewart.

Only joking of course.

DJ likes to pick them off with high velocity rifle as they approach Hammersmith. It's for their own good he tells us. Limits their suffering.

Wedge

[SuzyQ]

DJ likes to pick them off with high velocity rifle as they approach Hammersmith. It's for their own good he tells us. Limits their suffering.

Wedge

:rofl: :tears: :rofl: (crying with laughter while also rolling about on the floor :))

[WittyBird]

On a different note, any teachers willing to share with us the contents of the update course? What fab/drab new move combinations can we expect to see this year?


CentAlex will be able to help there! He won best new move, which he used on me while we were dancing, it's actually very nice :respect:

Well Done Alex :clap:

[robd]

CentAlex will be able to help there! He won best new move, which he used on me while we were dancing, it's actually very nice :respect:

Well Done Alex :clap:

Was that the Double-Bra-Strap-Replace by any chance? :whistle:

[WittyBird]

Was that the Double-Bra-Strap-Replace by any chance? :whistle:

:rofl: easy tiger :whistle:

[Cruella]

IOn a different note, any teachers willing to share with us the contents of the update course? What fab/drab new move combinations can we expect to see this year?

Robert

You mean Centralex didn't tell you he'd won a bottle of champagne(which he immediately consumed) for the best new move of 2006/7!!? He told me about it 3 times! Then attempted to lead it on me whilst i was still putting my shoes on. :what:


I also didn't have as good a night as i'd hoped. I adore Sheenas music but i really don't like the room itself. I therefore spent 70% of the night upstairs. It seems to me as if Suzy and i are going through the same thing at the moment. Doesn't matter how many fab men we dance with or how great the music is, the satisfaction isn't there at the moment. :sad: I've assured her that it will return though as it's happened to me before. So how about we stop blaming others for a crap night and realise it's all down to our own mood on the night.

[Mr Darcy]

What a fab night! I think this and the xmas event at Hammersmith were the most fun I've had there. Thanks to all the lovely people who danced with me :flower:

Did anyone else in the blues room around 1am notice what happened outside the window? I was just sitting watching everyone dance when someone made their way past the window mooning and wiggling fairly well in time to the music.. It made for a surreal backdrop to all the sexy dancing going on inside :rofl:

[CentrAlex]

CentAlex will be able to help there! He won best new move, which he used on me while we were dancing, it's actually very nice :respect:

Well Done Alex :clap:

Thanks babe :blush:


Was that the Double-Bra-Strap-Replace by any chance? :whistle:

Similar...its called the bouncy fletch :wink: I'm sure witty will be able to show you it next time you see her!! :rofl:

[Yliander]

You mean a group of people that probably only get together once a year, and enjoy seeing their friends on that one occasion?

What is it with people, and their determinedness to see cliques everywhere? Why are people who go as a group of friends a clique to everyone who isn't in that circle of friends? :mad:


While I would agree that a clique is another word for a group, there is a further meaning implied, and that is one of exclusivity. And, when the subject is brought up on this forum, it is usually in a negative sense.

And, I always disagree with that. Except in the case of Jango. Obviously :whistle:

Ooooo maybe I should have used the term group rather than clique – clique just came to mind as I felt rather awkward when I ended up at that corner early in the night – felt rather awkward about approaching those there – not sure why just did – but it didn’t bother me beyond moving on to find someone else to dance with.

I wasn’t meaning to be critical of them – having heard so much about how “cliquey” Hammersmith is supposed to be – I found it not to be like that at all apart from this large group which stood out for a period of time purely by size and location rather than attitude and behaviour


So to reiterate I had a FAB!!!! night – lots of lovely dances (only one mildly upsetting refusal), lots of lovely friends - and headed home with happy feet – although they were somewhat sore

[Cruella]

Did anyone else in the blues room around 1am notice what happened outside the window? I was just sitting watching everyone dance when someone made their way past the window mooning and wiggling fairly well in time to the music.. It made for a surreal backdrop to all the sexy dancing going on inside :rofl:

I was dancing with Danny and he pointed it out to me. I thought he was telling me Jamie was mooning at first!

[SuzyQ]

I asked Suzy Q to dance on sat night and we enjoyed two fun tracks together (lots of wiggling :blush: ) so I was surprised to see she hadn't enjoyed the event but it was v crowded and there were lots more women than men and she's not a stalk and grab artist so I can see why it may not have been as enjoyable for her as for me.


Thank you Rob ... loved wiggling with you :D. Think you are right on the 'too many women spoiling the broth' observation.

[David Bailey]

Right, firstly, let me humbly apologize for being so unremittingly negative, anti-social and exclusive. Clearly, I'm just a sad lonely leper for not joining in the "fun crowd"TM, and I shouldn't inflict my negative vibes on people, polluting their Fun Times.

Secondly, let me also apologise for stating when I don't enjoy myself - obviously, it's against the Ceroc Code to have a bad night dancing, or at least to tell people about it.

I shall humbly withdraw from contributing to these event discussions, and I only hope the "fun crowd" people haven't been permanently scarred by my polluting posts.

[SuzyQ]

Right, firstly, let me humbly apologize for being so unremittingly negative, anti-social and exclusive. Clearly, I'm just a sad lonely leper for not joining in the "fun crowd"TM, and I shouldn't inflict my negative vibes on people, polluting their Fun Times.

Secondly, let me also apologise for stating when I don't enjoy myself - obviously, it's against the Ceroc Code to have a bad night dancing, or at least to tell people about it.

I shall humbly withdraw from contributing to these event discussions, and I only hope the "fun crowd" people haven't been permanently scarred by my polluting posts.

:respect: :yeah: With bells on

[WittyBird]

Right, firstly, let me humbly apologize{snip blah}

Who's got DJ's login details? C'mon own up


I shall humbly withdraw from contributing

YAY.... about time.... wonder how long it will last :innocent:

[stewart38]

So how about we stop blaming others for a crap night and realise it's all down to our own mood on the night.

and if you have a good night for god sake stop blaming others :yeah:

[SuzyQ]

and if you have a good night for god sake stop blaming others :yeah:

Good point ... very well made.

[fletch]

I also didn't have as good a night as i'd hoped. I adore Sheenas music but i really don't like the room itself. I therefore spent 70% of the night upstairs. It seems to me as if Suzy and i are going through the same thing at the moment. Doesn't matter how many fab men we dance with or how great the music is, the satisfaction isn't there at the moment. :sad: I've assured her that it will return though as it's happened to me before. So how about we stop blaming others for a crap night and realise it's all down to our own mood on the night.

You need a chat and a dance with Roy from Oxford, he sorted me out recenly when I was in the same boat :flower:

I clocked him in the distance on Saurday right at the end of the night, I didn't get a dance :tears:

[WittyBird]

I clocked him in the distance on Saurday right at the end of the night, I didn't get a dance :tears:

Sorry to rub it in, but I managed to grab him :clap: What a delight it was :worthy:

[Jamie]

{snip}
However, perhaps my most memorable dance of the evening was leading Jamie - his following is remarkably good for a man :worthy: and he's cheekier than Dawn French's backside. Mike Ellard didn't look overly impressed dancing next to us though :blush:
{snip}
Robert

Whoop whoop! Check me out! lol.. Thanks mate, loved our dance too... It was fantastic.. And if I weren't cheeky ("omg that sucked, do it again..." lol) I wouldn't be me!

I had some wicked leads on Sat, I didn't get a dance with Sparkles though! :tears: Well, I lead her, but she didn't lead me!! Will have to get some with you next time babe!

And yeah, congrats to CentrAlex on best move of 2006/7 whatever it was, it is a nice move!

---

Also on the subject of cliqueiness, I haven't experienced it much to be honest.. but that's just me.. I'm a bit like fletch in that respect also, I like to flit between groups of people to say hi etc... I like making friends with people and talkin to those that I've not spoke to before! So I'm usually the one who walks up to random people and starts talkin! lol..

---

Hammersmith for me was a very good night, I'll remember it for a long while and I definately want to go again!

:grin:

[Russell Saxby]

And we will enjoy the company of whoever is there too.

I certainly enjoyed my shower with you Mr Par. Next time I will take my soap and shampoo :whistle:

[TheTramp]

It seems to me as if Suzy and i are going through the same thing at the moment. Doesn't matter how many fab men we dance with or how great the music is, the satisfaction isn't there at the moment. :sad:

And CJ too. Maybe you should go and compete with him! :rolleyes:


YAY.... about time.... wonder how long it will last :innocent:

I give it a week.... :flower:

[Caz]

had a wicked night at hammersmith.. def want to go again.. had LOADS of fab dances.. LOVED the blues room.. well done on the music tiggerbabe.... found upstairs a bit too crowded at points but like i say spent most of night in blues room.. can't wait for southport now.

got 2 refusals... both at end of night so by that point i didn't care anymore... in my opinion refusing to dance with someone is just pointless.. it is for a 3 minute song fgs.... their loss in any case.

fantastic to meet so many people there.

hope to see you all at southport
xx

[Sparkles]

I can't believe I'm actually going to say this but... I enjoyed Hammersmith!

I had a really good time, and I'm still in shock. Normally I avoid Hammersmith like the plague. I enjoy the first half hour, saying hello to everyone, getting a few dances, then get fed up with being punched and kicked (and not even in time to the thump thump of the music :rolleyes: ) and go sulk till about the last hour when it picks up again - not really my idea of a good night out...
... but Saturday was really very good. I had a few dances upstairs to begin with, including one with the lovely Jamie (wish I'd had the guts to say 'hi' at Daventry now :flower:, and definitely a reverse-roles dance on the cards for next time), and then had fun dancing downstairs, although it was a bit of a 'stalk-and-grab' night which is always harder work. Then had a rest and a drink and a chat with friends while the blues room was crowded and went back downstairs to finish off the night.

The blues room, it has to be said, makes all the difference to the vibe at Hammersmith. Sheena did a fab job on the decks :worthy:, and she was up there for a long time - how she concentrated for four hours straight without a break beats me :respect: .

Well done to the Ceroc London crew - if it carries on like this Hammersmith will certainly go back on to my freestyle radar :clap:

[jammy]

Oh Stewart !! throwing cheap brick bats around again??

What is it with certain forumites ???:mad: :angry: lots of people dance and have a good time they have to be accused/tarred with insinuation and smug knowing winks about some purile
accusation they are "hotshot" with all the attached negative bullsh@t connatations that definition has about how dancers supposedly treat each other.

How come most of the forumites who slur other dancers at a particular event hardly ever go along themselves to see how nice most people treat each other in the main.

Get a life or go to an approprate thread and post your inane accusations there.
I had a great night so did Mrs Par.

well sed UP have rep:clap:

[jammy]

hi guys Thanks for all the feedback. i only had the chance two get a hand full of dances as you noticed it was very busy and i was busy running around most of the night.

But Tiggerbabe and Mas done a great job on the music.

but yes we will have some more two roomed events keep your eye open for them and just to let you know Tiggerbabe will be BACK:D :waycool: :clap:

Jammy

[CentrAlex]

Right, firstly, let me humbly apologize for being so unremittingly negative, anti-social and exclusive. Clearly, I'm just a sad lonely leper for not joining in the "fun crowd"TM, and I shouldn't inflict my negative vibes on people, polluting their Fun Times.

Secondly, let me also apologise for stating when I don't enjoy myself - obviously, it's against the Ceroc Code to have a bad night dancing, or at least to tell people about it.

I shall humbly withdraw from contributing to these event discussions, and I only hope the "fun crowd" people haven't been permanently scarred by my polluting posts.

MAYBEE...in the future after an event...we could have 2 threads...for example...

Hammersmith Sat 13th...Good night :D

and...

Hammersmith Sat 13th...Not so good night :sad:

hmmmm...or would that be starting a cliquey hotshotty elitist thing on the forum???? :confused:

[ALexyMiss]

Opinion by its nature is subjective and therefore we should not be trying to shout down differing opinions from our own nor suggesting that people are wrong. Their opinion is their opinion. No more, no less.
Robert

:yeah: Well said :respect:

[stewart38]

MAYBEE...in the future after an event...we could have 2 threads...for example...

Hammersmith Sat 13th...Good night :D

and...

Hammersmith Sat 13th...Not so good night :sad:

hmmmm...or would that be starting a cliquey hotshotty elitist thing on the forum???? :confused:

If you dont want to hear what peoples 'own expereince' of an event is why not put them on an ignore list

Eventually you will get what you want 100% of the people had 100% fantasic time 100% of the time

Some people may have a good /bad excellent or what ever time at what ever event it maybe for what ever reason. Sure if you come out and say I think it was s*** its best to add some ‘reasons’ (I’ve learnt that)

However constant **** take of people who may have not had a good time id hope isn’t what the forum is about

I haven’t seen the forum lambaste people in such a way before for sometime. well 2/3 yrs ago i said i felt Ealing was cliquey got 'lambasted' for that:sad:

[under par]

It is not posting about having a bad night I personally take issue with.


Everyone has a bad night ocassionally.


I take issue with those on the forum (and not just posters on this thread ) who have had a bad night and automaically assume and state it is caused by cliques, hotshots, elitism or exclusivity of others.

Largely with no evidence of any behaviour which would suggest this is the case.

Most poor nights are caused by overcrowding, lack of gender balancing, music not to desired taste, just being off form or lack of self belief to get up and ask someone to dance.


Organisers are responsible for the first three we are personally responsible for the last two.

for forumites and dancers to blame other dancers for their own poor night saddens me because I don't know these people who go out to make it a dreadful night for others although by a law of averages there must be one or two. Most people I know go dancing to dance.

Live and let dance:cheers:

[Twirly]

Maybe "cliquiness" is in the eye of the beholder?

[under par]

Maybe "cliquiness" is in the eye of the beholder?

So evidence your experience tell us what caused you to feel this feeling.

What did the people actually do??

Was it the heinous crime of dancing at a dance event?

What actions or words where seen or heard that lead a person to allege others have been cliquey?

Pray tell me this and I will say halleluia...

You are right it was cliquey

[CentrAlex]

If you dont want to hear what peoples 'own expereince' of an event is why not put them on an ignore list

Eventually you will get what you want 100% of the people had 100% fantasic time 100% of the time

Some people may have a good /bad excellent or what ever time at what ever event it maybe for what ever reason. Sure if you come out and say I think it was s*** its best to add some ‘reasons’ (I’ve learnt that)

However constant **** take of people who may have not had a good time id hope isn’t what the forum is about

I haven’t seen the forum lambaste people in such a way before for sometime. well 2/3 yrs ago i said i felt Ealing was cliquey got 'lambasted' for that:sad:

I haven't got anything against people saying if they have a bad night because as you say, that is what it is all about. I was just reply to David James' post that he would withdraw from posting if he had a bad night!!!

Hey...if I had a bad night then yeah...I would say! :nice:

[clevedonboy]

Most poor nights are caused by overcrowding, lack of gender balancing, music not to desired taste, just being off form or lack of self belief to get up and ask someone to dance.


Organisers are responsible for the first three we are personally responsible for the last two.



I agree with your general thrust but how can the organiser ensure that the music is of the "desired taste" - I'm not having a pop but trying to emphasise that musical taste is not measurable whereas overcrowding / gender balance are (what about venue quality BTW as that can spoil an evening out)

E.G. I'm fully aware that whilst I had lot's of wonderful comments about my sets over the weekend, that there will have been people who just may not have shared those feelings - we all have different tastes

An organiser does have responsibilty to
1 ensure that a good variety of music is played in a main room, by a DJ who has empathy for the audience, at an acceptable volume without distortion.
2 if there is a specialist room, to make sure that it does what it says on the tin.

:flower:

[under par]

I agree with your general thrust but how can the organiser ensure that the music is of the "desired taste" - I'm not having a pop but trying to emphasise that musical taste is not measurable whereas overcrowding / gender balance are (what about venue quality BTW as that can spoil an evening out)

:flower:


I accept your point, it is the individuals taste not the organisers.... you cannot ensure the music is to everyones taste all the time but it is the music the organiser puts on ....which the individual has little control over.

[Lory]

you cannot ensure the music is to everyones taste all the time but it is the music the organiser puts on ....which the individual has little control over.

Ahh but, What if the organiser advertises a certain genre of music, in the hope that everyone who does come, actually 'likes' the style :clap:

Hmm but oh yeah :( I forgot, heaven forbid, it might attract a certain crowd of dancer that's percieved as...


and here we go again.....


round and round and round....and.......

[stewart38]

and here we go again.....


round and round and round....and.......


I can have a great time if there is too many women ,perception see

Some people thing 4 is too crowded others 5000 isnt

Round and round we go

Feel like it’s the Magic Round About

[Caz]

It is not posting about having a bad night I personally take issue with.


Everyone has a bad night ocassionally.


I take issue with those on the forum (and not just posters on this thread ) who have had a bad night and automaically assume and state it is caused by cliques, hotshots, elitism or exclusivity of others.

Largely with no evidence of any behaviour which would suggest this is the case.

Most poor nights are caused by overcrowding, lack of gender balancing, music not to desired taste, just being off form or lack of self belief to get up and ask someone to dance.


Organisers are responsible for the first three we are personally responsible for the last two.

for forumites and dancers to blame other dancers for their own poor night saddens me because I don't know these people who go out to make it a dreadful night for others although by a law of averages there must be one or two. Most people I know go dancing to dance.

Live and let dance:cheers:

well said... it was my first time at hammersmith on saturday.. to be honest i got asked to dance by people i didn't know about twice but i made my own night by asking people to dance - yeah i got 2 refusals but i asked someone else.. u make your own night.... we are all there to dance are we not??? cliques, hotshots etc.. u ask people to dance who u wanna dance with at the end of the day.. who cares if they are "hotshots" or not.....

[tiger]

Chillout (no pun intended) all of you.

Surely the point of the forum is to have the chance to post both good,bad, infact any point as long as people arent having personal arguments through it or making slanderous allegations?

As a newcomer to all of this it seems that if someone posts something that isnt liked by the majority on here, they get flamed. It also seems like those inferred as being these cliques or hotshots etc, get very wound up and defensive at the slightest mention of any of this. Maybe its too painful?

If someone has a bad night and is brave enough to say so,then perhaps a bit of encouragement from some of those in the know,rather than the 'if you dont like it/us then b;;gger off' comments might be more respected.

Real world reality shows elitism,cliques,premium catagories etc in many ways but they are often presented in a much more proffessional manner than on this forum.

Chillout all of you, :wink: please.

[WittyBird]

As a newcomer to all of this it seems that if someone posts something that isnt liked by the majority on here, they get flamed. It also seems like those inferred as being these cliques or hotshots etc, get very wound up and defensive at the slightest mention of any of this. Maybe its too painful?


Newcomer? You joined in 2004, I personally think you're out to condescend and stir. What you write on here tends to be very patronising and IMHO you are in an elitist world of your own as you never introduce yourself even though you go to the same venues as a lot of us.

I think you're an inverted snob and I would like to see you back up all of your statements and posts by introducing yourself to a few of us, how many times have you ever given anyone any encouragement or help.

Just wondered :whistle:

[under par]

Newcomer? You joined in 2004, I personally think you're out to condescend and stir. What you write on here tends to be very patronising and IMHO you are in an elitist world of your own as you never introduce yourself even though you go to the same venues as a lot of us.

I think you're an inverted snob and I would like to see you back up all of your statements and posts by introducing yourself to a few of us, how many times have you ever given anyone any encouragement or help.

Just wondered :whistle:


Steady on Witty there's no need get all personal when what the forum needs is more calm and less mudslinging.

I want to see more people enjoy more of their dancing and less people accusing others of of being X or Y without good cause.

I may be seen as having upset SuzyQ on this thread but my intention was never to personalise any comments purely to SuzyQ but to all forumites who appear to perpetually denegrate others as A B or C because their own evening was rubbish.

Thread after thread about great nights out ends up in snipe and jibes I want to see less of that. If you have a bad night by all means tell us about why it was bad for you without slagging others off unless you have some hard evidence of wrongdoing.

More dancers would be enjoying their dancing if there was better gender balancing and less overcrowding IMHO.

More people enjoying their dancing will lead to less people sniping at others.

Live and let dance .... :yeah: lets keep the nicer community spirit live and kicking

[WittyBird]

Steady on Witty there's no need get all personal when what the forum needs is more calm and less mudslinging.

Sorry UP but you know who I am, You also know my weaknesses etc. Also like I said earlier this person gives no encouragement to others - only negativity, which is a shame.

I feel that I am well within my rights to state these opinions, Infact why don't you take a look yourself, I'm sure you'd draw your own conclusions. :D

Plus I am not the only to person to have thought this for a while.....


Over to you Sherlock :grin:

[TheTramp]

As a newcomer to all of this it seems that if someone posts something that isnt liked by the majority on here, they get flamed. It also seems like those inferred as being these cliques or hotshots etc, get very wound up and defensive at the slightest mention of any of this. Maybe its too painful?


Firstly, in almost all cases on this forum, I don't see the disagreements as being flames. If someone posts something I don't agree with, I might tell them that I disagree and why. If someone posts something stupid, then I'll tell them that too. I'm very rarely personal. But, it seems that some people, once someone disagrees with them, always take it as being flamed. Which it just isn't.

I agree that some people do take accusations of cliques rather too seriously, and could probably be better advised to just ignore it. On the other hand, it is true that if you accuse someone of engaging in what is perceived as negative behaviour, and they feel that it's an unjustified accusation, then they will more than likely attempt to defend themselves. That's human nature.

[Sheepman]

In conclusion?


People danced, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people had a good time most of the time, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people had a bad time most of the time, nobody was surprised at that.
One person had a bad time all night, but he wasn't there, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people observed cliques, nobody was surprised at that.
Some cliques observed themselves.
Some people liked most of the music, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people disliked most of the music.
Franck drank champagne, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people disagreed with the observations of other people, nobody was surprised at that.
There were lots of people, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people got colourful bruises.
Mike Ellard was seen working with a broom, people were surprised.


Greg

[jockey]

I will be there.
Can anybody tell me why there was no thread about recent Torquay Rockbottoms? Organisers put on a great event - thanks (and brilliant value). I wish to mention a dancer thare called Naome (Phils dance partner, Phil with the camera and a beach boogie helper) - she is brilliant and a star of the future. Jack.

[SuzyQ]

In conclusion?


People danced, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people had a good time most of the time, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people had a bad time most of the time, nobody was surprised at that.
One person had a bad time all night, but he wasn't there, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people observed cliques, nobody was surprised at that.
Some cliques observed themselves.
Some people liked most of the music, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people disliked most of the music.
Franck drank champagne, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people disagreed with the observations of other people, nobody was surprised at that.
There were lots of people, nobody was surprised at that.
Some people got colourful bruises.
Mike Ellard was seen working with a broom, people were surprised.


Greg

:nice:

[TheTramp]

I will be there.

You will be there??


Can anybody tell me why there was no thread about recent Torquay Rockbottoms?

Because no-one started one?

[Lory]

Because no-one started one?
:yeah: and BTW who's job was it?

:na:

[jockey]

I will be there.
Can anybody tell me why there was no thread about recent Torquay Rockbottoms? Organisers put on a great event - thanks (and brilliant value). I wish to mention a dancer thare called Naome (Phils dance partner, Phil with the camera and a beach boogie helper) - she is brilliant and a star of the future. Jack.

Correction: I wasnt there..!! oops!!

[Almost an Angel]

Ok I've stayed out of this till now

I'll join SuzyQ - I didn't have a great night at Hammersmith it was OK but that's all.

Socially it was great I got meet up with lots of people I haven't seen for a while and meet new people (always good).

Following Under Par's list

Was it to do with feeling excluded, elitism or hotshottedness- Nope - I was probably one of the people who was sat at the front of the stage in the blues room chatting. I even met some new people and was chatting with them about WCS.

Was it the Music - Nope music was great - (thanks Sheena) whenever I ventured upstairs for a dance I always returned back.

The overcrowding however was more of an issue for me. Actually it wasn't so much the overcrowding but the lack of floorcraft displayed by people was staggering. Even when I was leading I was constantly having to protect my follow from other people.

Was it the actual dances - Nope i had some great dances despite the lack of floorcraft- however it did take the edge off some - I even managed to grab a dance with Franck. :drool:

Was I off form - nope don't think so - you'd have ask my partners though.

Was I having a self belief issue - no - I asked the guys I wanted to dance with no refusals and I didn't refuse any either.

Sometimes despite everything and everyone else raving about it you're in the minority. Hammersmith was OK - it wasn't great - but that's only my opinion.

Angel xx

[Twirly]

Just out of curiousity, since overcrowding seems to come up for a lot of people, even those who enjoyed themselves, how many people are they allowed to admit to Hammersmith? When do they start turning people away? And what is the average attendance?

Not that the organisers can probably do much if a particular room is over-popular.

[fletch]

I get in the neck for not been clique, I have had comments like' oh so were worth sitting with this week aren't we'' oh you don't want us anymore'

yawn! yawn!

i'll sit where and with whom I choice to, when I like, and if that means some of those groups don't like it, tough!, to quote Lorry 'put that in your pipe and smoke it'. ........I wont be clique.....well only with the whole room :na:

I feel good now thats of my chest :wink:

[CentrAlex]

I feel good now thats of my chest :wink:

I'd say...you wouldn't want any more on there darlin! :love: :flower:

[WittyBird]

I'd say...you wouldn't want any more on there darlin! :love: :flower:

Could she get any more on there?:D

[Rhythm King]

Could she get any more on there?:D

Well you'd know:whistle:

[fletch]

Well you'd know:whistle:

and you wouldn't :wink:

:na:

[marty_baby]

Ok I've stayed out of this till now



Me too! :o


I didn't have a great dance night either. Had to sleep on it for a few days tho... to get my head around why!

Nothing to do with the venue tho. I have a had a brilliant time the last time I was there, and last Saturday was more of the same brill set up.

The problem for me was - I was trying to find my Competition dance partner to dance with. The place was too big, too overcrowded to find her, and I was being constantly asked by the same people to dance again and again.... I was getting pretty naffed off as you can guess!

I think next time in a huge venue like Hammersmith, perhaps I should just go with the flow, soak in the atmoshpere of a room before moving on.... dance with whoever is there..... rather than rushing around and getting nowhere..... Also, perhaps being in the same place, with the same people around, the persistent ladies would see how they are being a bit selfish, and lay off repeatedly asking me to dance....

....Hell, once that night I even walked into the Blues room, There was the lovely Val and Witty etc al. Val even gave me a wave.... I then walked straight out again, when I saw Lyndsey wasn't around!..... I can be a bit of a dense twat at times! Sorry all! :flower:

Looking back... I should have parked my butt for a while and just mingled! :na:


Totally me, no-one else. Glad loads of people did the right thing on the right tho - and just enjoyed the dancing with those around them!

Roll on the next dance! :hug:


martin :clap: