Taxis - Pay or Admit Ones?

[Ghost]

So if you're a taxi which would you prefer?

[David Franklin]

So if you're a taxi which would you prefer?Not that I'm a taxi, but to me, the biggest incentive would be proper training: How to dance better, how to teach better, maybe some specialist workshops or private lessons. [And the great thing is, you could probably justify all of those as being "essential staff training" and so they'd be an asset tax-wise, rather than a liability. Maybe].

The 'perks' like the "Christmas Dinner for Taxis" thing Ceroc did a couple of years at Kent House were also nice, I thought.

[Trouble]

When i was a Taxi dancer i used to do it to get free entry every week. There were no additional training perks or anything like that but it reduced my already inflating dance bill.

If the regulation was to be paid and declared, it would have to increase in amount to compensate for the tax that would be paid on it. 40% would come straight off my 7 quid in tax.

Sod that. :D

[bigdjiver]

The answer is a trifle obvious. We all enjoy dancing more than we enjoy the money we spend on dancing.

[Jive fanatic]

I taxi for Ceroc London and feel that free entry to the venues has done a lot for reducing a large dance bill, alternatively given me a chance to dance more than I would have done. I was glad to taxi for the the benefit of putting something back into dance. Further training in teaching / dance is a good idea but not why I went into it. Acknowledgement for the efforts taxi dancers make is always nice but again not why one does it.

[Blueshoes]

to me, the biggest incentive would be proper training: How to dance better, how to teach better, maybe some specialist workshops or private lessons.

:yeah:

Taxi dancing can be rewarding but it can also be a frustrating experience dance wise and your dancing can suffer because of it. Some form of proper training would compensate for that.

[Tazmanian Devil]

I taxi for Ceroc London and feel that free entry to the venues has done a lot for reducing a large dance bill, alternatively given me a chance to dance more than I would have done. I was glad to taxi for the the benefit of putting something back into dance. Further training in teaching / dance is a good idea but not why I went into it. Acknowledgement for the efforts taxi dancers make is always nice but again not why one does it.

:yeah: Well said babes :clap:

I taxi for ceroc Kent and ceroc Greenwich and both franchisees have up until recently had the same deal for taxi's (free entry to that franchises venues) Although this is soon to change for ceroc Kent as 3 of the busiest venues have been taken off the crew pass but yet the taxi's still don't have to pay full price. :grin:

[FirstMove]

I know it depends on your age, personal tax status and the franchise taxi deal a bit, but roughly:-

2 1/2 hours at minimum wage = 2.5*£5.35 = £13.37

Deduct
22% Income tax
11% NI

That's £8.96 leftover as pay.

Cash is like an Admit One, but it works at every venue :clap:

[El Salsero Gringo]

I know it depends on your age, personal tax status and the franchise taxi deal a bit, but roughly:-

2 1/2 hours at minimum wage = 2.5*£5.35 = £13.37

Deduct
22% Income tax
11% NI

That's £8.96 leftover as pay.

Cash is like an Admit One, but it works at every venue :clap:Don't forget to add on a holiday pay allowance pro rata.

[Ghost]

2 1/2 hours at minimum wage = 2.5*£5.35 = £13.37

Also factor in that you need a lot more skill to be a taxi dancer compared with say stacking shelves, so "minimum wage" is unreasonable.

[MartinHarper]

Also factor in that you need a lot more skill to be a taxi dancer compared with say stacking shelves, so "minimum wage" is unreasonable.

Wages are about what people will accept, not what people are worth.

[David Bailey]

I know it depends on your age, personal tax status and the franchise taxi deal a bit, but roughly:-

2 1/2 hours at minimum wage = 2.5*£5.35 = £13.37

Deduct
22% Income tax
11% NI

That's £8.96 leftover as pay.

Cash is like an Admit One, but it works at every venue :clap:
£9 cash is better than one Admit One, yes.

But some taxis get 2 Admit Ones don't they? Which would be, err, £14 gross, so roughly £20 net I assume?

[Cruella]

But some taxis get 2 Admit Ones don't they?
Really? I know some Demos get 2 admit ones (depending on experience) but i didn't think the same applied to taxis.

[David Bailey]

Really? I know some Demos get 2 admit ones (depending on experience) but i didn't think the same applied to taxis.
Yeah, maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

I dunno, last time I taxi-d, people were still being paid in Imperial currency.

Anyway, presumably there are different grades of taxi, otherwise there's no career progression - so no incentive to improve your skills etc.

[TheTramp]

Really? I know some Demos get 2 admit ones (depending on experience) but i didn't think the same applied to taxis.

In some places, the taxis get effectively 9 admit ones. Since they just get free admittance to any venue within that franchise for class nights (and a discounted rate for freestyles).

Of course, it might involve quite a bit of travelling! :whistle:

[El Salsero Gringo]

In some places, the taxis get effectively 9 admit ones. Since they just get free admittance to any venue within that franchise for class nights (and a discounted rate for freestyles).

Of course, it might involve quite a bit of travelling! :whistle:If you're going to push the analogy quite that far, those 9 admit ones are each only useable on a single date and vanish thereafter.

[FirstMove]

Don't forget to add on a holiday pay allowance pro rata.

Rolled up holiday pay is illegal (http://www.dti.gov.uk/employment/employment-legislation/working-time-regs/rolled-up/page29030.html). You have to get paid for holiday on the days you take it.

Presumably, you're due 20 nights leave per 260 worked, or about 8% more.

[El Salsero Gringo]

Rolled up holiday pay is illegal (http://www.dti.gov.uk/employment/employment-legislation/working-time-regs/rolled-up/page29030.html). You have to get paid for holiday on the days you take it.

Presumably, you're due 20 nights leave per 260 worked, or about 8% more.Interesting. (Minor quibbles with that webpage is that I can't find a date on it, or references to the relevant court decisions.) But you can still consider yourself better off by 8%, regardless of when you're paid the allowance.

[TheTramp]

If you're going to push the analogy quite that far, those 9 admit ones are each only useable on a single date and vanish thereafter.

True.

But you then get another batch of admit ones the following fortnight. And this keeps happening until you're no longer a taxi-dancer.

[FirstMove]

...But you can still consider yourself better off by 8%, regardless of when you're paid the allowance.

If I understand the DTI website (which is very :confused::sick: ), then you have to take your holiday when you would normally have been working.

So if you regularly taxi every other week, then you'd have to take leave on 2 of your 26 nominal taxi-nights each year, not just on any old day when you want the cash.

I don't understand how it works if you have irregular employment.

[LMC]

Not that I'm a taxi, but to me, the biggest incentive would be proper training: How to dance better, how to teach better, maybe some specialist workshops or private lessons. [And the great thing is, you could probably justify all of those as being "essential staff training" and so they'd be an asset tax-wise, rather than a liability. Maybe].
:yeah:

[Wouldbe]

Not that I'm a taxi, but to me, the biggest incentive would be proper training: How to dance better, how to teach better, maybe some specialist workshops or private lessons. [And the great thing is, you could probably justify all of those as being "essential staff training" and so they'd be an asset tax-wise, rather than a liability. Maybe].

The 'perks' like the "Christmas Dinner for Taxis" thing Ceroc did a couple of years at Kent House were also nice, I thought.

Taxiing for CerocKent, I think we're really lucky. I dance regularly 3 times a week, occasionally more, get free entry each time, all for only being a taxi dancer once every 3 weeks. Quite often I've been able to go to freestyles for free, particularly if having been involved in helping at a promotional event or workshop. There's also so many of us (all of us lovely!) that the social events for crew are always great fun too.

I say everyone should defect to CerocKent! We're not talking huge amounts of money but it's a token of how valued your contribution is and as JiveFanatic says it is not the remuneration that we do it for. People are inherently interesting (some wierd, but still very interesting!) and being a taxi immediately gets you recognised by many and draws people to talk to you, ask you for dances on- and off-duty and think nice things of your dancing. It's an incredible boost to your confidence.

[Frankie_4711]

Taxiing for CerocKent, I think we're really lucky. I dance regularly 3 times a week, occasionally more, get free entry each time, all for only being a taxi dancer once every 3 weeks. Quite often I've been able to go to freestyles for free, particularly if having been involved in helping at a promotional event or workshop. There's also so many of us (all of us lovely!) that the social events for crew are always great fun too.

I say everyone should defect to CerocKent! We're not talking huge amounts of money but it's a token of how valued your contribution is and as JiveFanatic says it is not the remuneration that we do it for. People are inherently interesting (some wierd, but still very interesting!) and being a taxi immediately gets you recognised by many and draws people to talk to you, ask you for dances on- and off-duty and think nice things of your dancing. It's an incredible boost to your confidence.

:yeah: