World of Warcraft

[Shodan]

Anybody else play this fantastic game? Took me a while to actually start playing it, but I do now.

Currently got a level 35 night elf hunter on the Darkspear Server. Also a level 17 Human Paladin on Eonar server.

Who's with me? :waycool:

[NZ Monkey]

'Tis an evil game.

It's the only game I now where hard-core players advice is not to start, because it's too good. I have actually seen this game destroy real relationships.... because my mates girlfriend was playing it too much!:what:

I've been on the wagon for 8 months now and I still get withdrawl symptoms :tears:

[Tessalicious]

ESG had better not see this, he'll get ideas!

Yes, I'm a WoW addict, I started 2 weeks ago and I have a lvl 16 elf druid and a lvl 15 pally, both on Lightbringer. I'm such a geek. :tears:

[Sparkles]

How does one start...? :innocent:

[MartinHarper]

Former addict, gave up a week ago after racking up over 80 days /played.
(note to non-WoW players: that's a total of 80x24 hours logged in to their servers, over 2-3 years).

[straycat]

Good thing my PC's too underpowered to run it. Especially considering that I'm off work for two weeks shortly.

[EDIT] Just found out it'll run just fine on my Mac.

Ohhhh - the temptation.... :tears:

[Shodan]

It's the only game I now where hard-core players advice is not to start, because it's too good. I have actually seen this game destroy real relationships.... because my mates girlfriend was playing it too much!:what:
Yeah, I've heard that too. But I'm not that sad to play it all the time - I meant most nights I'm out with my mates and dancing and stuff. But its a nice game for when I do have a free evening and I can't be bothered to go out.

Fortunately, its helpful in some cases. For example my sister and her bloke. They are quite busy and due to them travelling for work every day they find it too much hassle to go out in the evenings. So they actually play WoW together as a team (and thus my second character of a Paladin on the Eonar server where they play).

[Paulthetrainer]

I once met a guy who played it non stop. His character even had a girlfriend within the game. More scary than that was that he wasn't even faithful to her and cheated on her with other women within the game!

I escaped from Championship Manager a couple of years ago and its a constant battle not to just go and buy the latest version of that!

If I played Warcraft I wouldn;t be able to stop until I'd achieved complete world domination which given the scale of the game would take me a million years so I think I'll stay away....

Paul

[Shodan]

I tried world domination in 1994, but some hacker ruined my plans. Fortunately I was able to escape in a grove, but then in 1999 another mere "Innnnnsecttttt!!!!!!" came along and ruined my plans to take everything over. :tears:

[straycat]

I tried world domination in 1994, but some hacker ruined my plans. Fortunately I was able to escape in a grove, but then in 1999 another mere "Innnnnsecttttt!!!!!!" came along and ruined my plans to take everything over. :tears:

Yeah - but you got away AGAIN. :mad:

I'll get you next time. You wait :devil:

[Dreadful Scathe]

Yeah - but you got away AGAIN. :mad:

I'll get you next time. You wait :devil:
not played WoW - did find the south park episdoe funny though (mrtwig.net)

Only mmorpg i played was EvE, which is just my kind of thing. Utterly brilliant. I stopped playing it immediately of course. I already receive complaints about playing Counter Strike :)

[Jamie]

Ahhh... World of Warcraft is a Feeling... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpC3lZdk2HM)

[NZ Monkey]

ESG had better not see this, he'll get ideas!

Yes, I'm a WoW addict, I started 2 weeks ago and I have a lvl 16 elf druid and a lvl 15 pally, both on Lightbringer. I'm such a geek.
Just remember Tessalicious – the loading screens have useful tips like ‘’Remember that you need to eat and sleep’’ and ‘’All things should be taken in moderation – even World of Warcraft’’ for a reason.

People have actually died playing this game… those reminders were not always there :P

And we like your geekiness anyway – It gives the rest of us hope :whistle: :hug: :hug:


Former addict, gave up a week ago after racking up over 80 days /played.
(note to non-WoW players: that's a total of 80x24 hours logged in to their servers, over 2-3 years).That’d be about the same amount of time I had when I played I think, except I had only been playing about 18 months. Nothing brings reality crashing home quite as much as the /played function…..

[MartinHarper]

Nothing brings reality crashing home quite as much as the /played function…..

Ya, I gave that stat to a friend, and he instantly switched from "how come you want to quit?" to "get out of there while you still can!".

[Sparkles]

Why will no-one answer me? I wanna be a geek too... :sad:

[TheTramp]

Why will no-one answer me? I wanna be a geek too... :sad:

Go here*:

http://amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/203-9746597-0667125?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=World+of+Warcraft&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go

Buy it. Install it. Start playing!






*This may not be the cheapest place to buy it from though. You may want to look around

[Msfab]

How does one start...? :innocent:

A Quick google = http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml;jsessionid=55320AF4E23D87872C95B0C36E98E 261.08_app01

[NZ Monkey]

Why will no-one answer me? I wanna be a geek too... :sad:
You mean you weren't joking?!:confused:

[Tessalicious]

Sparkles, I've got a free 10 day trial if you want it...

Go on, you know you want to.

[TheTramp]

You know, you've almost tempted me into joining.

I've always resisted signing up for monthly plan RPGs. I did play GuildWars with Tessalicious on a few occasions before I went to Oz. But it seems that she's transferred her loyalties....

I might just have to bite the bullet, and get WoW too..... :waycool:

[Ghost]

Sparkles, I've got a free 10 day trial if you want it...

Go on, you know you want to.
Bad girl :devil:

Next you'll be trying to get her on EverCrack :whistle:

(And people think the Forum takes up your life - it's only got Franck! - these guys have a large paid staff who's job it is to keep you addicted!!!!!!!)

[Tessalicious]

I did play GuildWars with Tessalicious on a few occasions before I went to Oz. But it seems that she's transferred her loyalties....'Fraid so - GW gets very lonely to play when you don't know anyone, cos the design of the game means you can't just bump into people hunting the same things.
I might just have to bite the bullet, and get WoW too..... :waycool:So you should - but play on Lightbringer so I can help you get started. You don't even have to pay monthly - you can get play cards which give you two months at a time and don't do any harm if you miss a few days or weeks (or even months it is rumoured, though somehow I doubt you will need to find out).
Next you'll be trying to get her on EverCrackNope, been there, done that, couldn't afford the expansions, and it's way too complicated these days to get into from scratch so I wouldn't encourage it - but World of WarCrack is a much more beautiful game anyway.

[TheTramp]

So you should - but play on Lightbringer so I can help you get started. You don't even have to pay monthly - you can get play cards which give you two months at a time and don't do any harm if you miss a few days or weeks (or even months it is rumoured, though somehow I doubt you will need to find out).

Oh. Okie. You've convinced me.

I'll hang on for a bit though. I'm away the next 4 weekends, and have an assignment to do and an exam in the next 6 weeks too.

But I'll get it after the exam, when I'll have 5 weeks of non-university (apart from one more assessment to do). And a bit of spare time!

And I'll take you up on the offer of help too! :hug:

[Dreadful Scathe]

Oh. Okie. You've convinced me.

I'll hang on for a bit though. I'm away the next 4 weekends, and have an assignment to do and an exam in the next 6 weeks too.

But I'll get it after the exam, when I'll have 5 weeks of non-university (apart from one more assessment to do). And a bit of spare time!

And I'll take you up on the offer of help too! :hug:
so nows my opportunity to build up a dark elf assasin to stalk theTramp :)

Ill call him the "Mysterious Smurf" :)

[Tessalicious]

so nows my opportunity to build up a dark elf assasin to stalk theTramp :)

Ill call him the "Mysterious Smurf" :)Well that's gonna be really inconspicuous, isn't it? :rolleyes:

[TheTramp]

so nows my opportunity to build up a dark elf assasin to stalk theTramp :)

Ill call him the "Mysterious Smurf" :)

Yeah, yeah. Bring it on smurf-boy! :yum:

[El Salsero Gringo]

Well that's gonna be really inconspicuous, isn't it? :rolleyes:I gather "Mysterious Smurf" actually comes out as "nb,mnnbmj.mjn" in Smurfish - so yes!

[NZ Monkey]

All I can say at this point is ''For the Horde!''

Am I the only one here who played Horde.....? Seriously, I don't think I've met anyone in the UK who plays/played WoW and wasn't Alliance.

How can you deny the ultimate power of the /moo command? Come over to the dark side....

[Tessalicious]

What can I say - I'm an elf at heart.

Although I do have a Horde toon waiting in the wings for her, er, it's chance to shine.

[Sparkles]

Free 10 day trial sounds good :grin: - though do I have to start right away because I'll be baking all the hours I have until the 11th Nov when it's the MS Christmas fair? I think this'll need some serious hours :devil:
... and will you help me too Tess? Please :flower: ... it's always a little tricky getting your foot in the oor with these things, but once I've got the hang of it I'll be away!

Maybe my sig should be: Sparkles - geek in the making :rofl:

[Beowulf]

Maybe my sig should be: Sparkles - geek in the making :rofl:

Getting to be too many geeks on this forum for my Liking ;)

Haven't tried WoW yet but played EVE online a lot.. now THATS a great MMORPG game :clap:

[bigdjiver]

... (And people think the Forum takes up your life - it's only got Franck! - these guys have a large paid staff who's job it is to keep you addicted!!!!!!!)I know a WOW player that has roped most of his family and friends into it. He organised quizzes which even some of the moderators found hard, and as a result was offered a full-time job in France.

Has anybody got the Ceroc Franchise in it?

[NZ Monkey]

Has anybody got the Ceroc Franchise in it?Well, since everyone can already dance it'd be a little pointless wouldn't it? Unless you just organised freestyles. There's a few large enough halls in Ironforge....hmmmm :wink:

[Mostlysane]

I'm a former addict. I'm now a member of wowaholics anonymous. "Hi - my name is Mostly and i play wow".

I've left my lvl 56 druid on some server somewher - can't remember which, sorry, it's been nearly a year since i last played. but i do keep getting these odd urges to go give it one more run. especially with the expansion due....

[Caro]

I don't know that particular game but I used to be in a serious relationship with somebody who started playing that sort of games on the internet...
He became very quickly addicted, prefering spending his student money on internet connections (there wasn't broadband in his city at the time) rather than food :sick: . (not to mention other stuffs he could have done with me :rolleyes: ).
He had 2 'players' in the game, one was 'him' this other was his 'sister' (he didn't have a sister in real life) with both different behaviours and different friends. To the point where the game became more important to him than his real life.... I realised he started to become completely schizophrenic ...
That's when I ended the 5 years relationship, and this played a big part in it (I did try to help him first, but you can't help somebody quitting something if they don't want to).
Anyway that game cost him a lot in his real life (not talking just money here: friends and job opportunities).

I guess I just want to point out that people with a tendency to become 'addicts' at something should may be think twice before getting enrolled in such games.... of course they never do but whatever :rolleyes: .

Those games have certain consequences on people with a 'weaker' or more influencable mind... :eek:

[robd]

Maybe my sig should be: Sparkles - geek in the making :rofl:

Or

Sparkles - geek who loves baking :flower:

[TheTramp]

I guess I just want to point out that people with a tendency to become 'addicts' at something should may be think twice before getting enrolled in such games.... of course they never do but whatever :rolleyes: .

Those games have certain consequences on people with a 'weaker' or more influencable mind... :eek:

A bit like dancing then eh! :rolleyes:

[Caro]

A bit like dancing then eh! :rolleyes:

of course dancing can be an addiction (ain't I and my craving symptoms a good example :rolleyes: ), but last time I checked it was still real life...
I guess it could become dangerous too if that started to hinder your work (oops) and the rest of your life like family and friends etc ; but that's just like everything else.
What really concerns and I guess scares me is when a your irreal life in a game takes over you real life in this world...

(ok I heard the 'but the game is in real life' :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )

PS: It's my second post in the geek corner, if I don't get out of here very soon I'll become another 'geek in the making' :eek: :wink:

[Ghost]

A bit like dancing then eh! :rolleyes:
I was thinking about this last night and while some of us may spend a fair amount of time on here, I don't think anyone's got to the point where they'd stay at home on the Forum and give up dancing. I have however seen people give up real-world roleplaying so they could stay home playing EverQuest and watched as gradually the rest of their life vanished. It's quite scary, hence EverQuest's nickname of EverCrack.

Oh and some homework (http://www.boardofwisdom.com/Default.asp?topic=1005&listname=Geek) for Sparkles (nostalgia for the rest of us.......)

[Dreadful Scathe]

Sparkles is too pretty to be a geek, but then so it Tessalicious so its clearly not a barrier. :)

Anyone ever played DiabloII? Technically that was an mmorpg i suppose, I had a character on that: lvl76 sorceress called Silky Scathe. Lightning Spell ruled, damage of 1 to 250 over multiple opponents (or thereabouts , its been a while)

[Ghost]

But who's ever heard of a geek with a girl friend? :wink:


Seems to be one extreme or the other - either they're all alone :blush: , or they're going out with a goddess (edit who are often themselves geeks) :worthy: .

"I think geeks should be revered" - Sarah Sidle, CSI


Sparkles is too pretty to be a geek, but then so it Tessalicious so its clearly not a barrier. :)


Yup - you can't tell if a :awe: girl is a geek till she opens her mouth :devil:

[Sparkles]

Yup - you can't tell if a :awe: girl is a geek till she opens her mouth :devil:

... or you go through her hard drive... :eek: :blush:

[Tessalicious]

... or you go through her hard drive... :eek: :blush:Whereas with most men that would just get them sent upstairs...:devil:

[NZ Monkey]

Whereas with most men that would just get them sent upstairs...:devil::what:

:blush:

:innocent:

[straycat]

OK. Quandry.

Item: On Thursday I have this long-awaited operation I've been moaning about for ages.
Item: I'm off work for two weeks, and off dancing for at least two months.
Item: I have a shedload of domestic stuff to catch up on.
Item: They are selling WoW for £14.99 in the local Game.
Item: Just about everyone who's tried it seems to love WoW.
Item: This lunchtime might be my last chance to buy it before Thursday.

Hmmm. Should I risk getting it? If I get it, will my subsequent addiction destroy my life? Would getting it be a really good way of passing the time, or a really really stupid idea? Help! :what:

[TheTramp]

£14.99 isn't that much to lose...

Of course, having it destroy your life might be! :rolleyes:

[Tessalicious]

Get it, no question.

You can always walk away when you're ready to start dancing again...

EDIT: Just saw this one:
I have a shedload of domestic stuff to catch up onDomestic, schomestic - what's wrong with your priorities man?

[El Salsero Gringo]

Just say "no".

[Shodan]

Get the game. :grin: I lead a very busy and active life but dont let WoW rule it. WoW for me is just a minor part of my life for when I have some time for computer gaming. Its a nice easy to play game thats fun. :nice:

Good to see many other WoW players out here. :grin:

[straycat]

Get it, no question.

You can always walk away when you're ready to start dancing again...

EDIT: Just saw this one: Domestic, schomestic - what's wrong with your priorities man?

A geeky kind of domestic. Mainly lots of website work to catch up on at home. Falling behind somewhat.

[Jamie]

Just say "no".

Very good advice there tbh.. :worthy:

[MartinHarper]

Just say "no".

Ya, I'd go with that.

I was thinking about it, though, and I reckon that WoW isn't addictive per se. Rather, it is the Sunk Cost Fallacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs) hooked up on steroids and turned into a game.
Of course, if you are a scientific and rational thinker, then you'll be completely immune.

[straycat]

The nays have it. I resisted temptation (not even remotely convinced about the 'Sunk Cost' business, mind - just steering clear of the potential addiction.)

Ta everyone for the input.

[Trousers]

Is there anything free, good, easy to use that we could have a bash on in the evenings whilst we wait for interesting posts on the forum? assuming we aint off dancing?

[straycat]

Is there anything free, good, easy to use that we could have a bash on in the evenings whilst we wait for interesting posts on the forum? assuming we aint off dancing?

Could always try a MUD...

[Trousers]

Suggest away

I'm old and very out of the loop in these things

[TheTramp]

Is there anything free, good, easy to use that we could have a bash on in the evenings whilst we wait for interesting posts on the forum? assuming we aint off dancing?

I don't know that there's anything free that will keep your attention for that long.... :whistle:

[azande]

I don't know that there's anything free that will keep your attention for that long.... :whistle:

What about this:

[TheTramp]

Waht abot this:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[straycat]

Suggest away

I'm old and very out of the loop in these things

OK. This may not be your cup of tea, but it's free.... and it has destroyed enough lives to prove its addictiveness. The Discworld MUD (http://discworld.atuin.net/lpc/)

I even wrote some small parts of it, but don't let that put you off :wink:

[Dreadful Scathe]

or how about the very silly Kingdom of Loathing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Loathing)

[TheTramp]

£14.99 isn't that much to lose...

Of course, having it destroy your life might be! :rolleyes:

I posted this.

Then went and bought it!

7 weeks later, I have 4 chars. Just hit level 40 with my first. And 2 more in the 30's.

Sleep? I vaguely remember that....

And as for university.... :tears:

[Shodan]

Well done! I'm impressed you've levelled that many characters so quickly. It took me ages to get my "main" to level 35. Now that has been surpassed by my other character thats now 37.

What server(s) are your characters on? And what names?

Darkspear server: Winifred (Female Night Elf Hunter)
Eonar server: Fredpal (Male Human Paladin)

[Dreadful Scathe]

I played the trail over xmas and managed a 13th level night elf, but found WoW a bit dull, far too much repetition to get up levels although the fighting system was ok. I did buy guildwars and occasionally play that, the graphics are far superior to WoW :)

[TheTramp]

I'm on Lightbringer.

My main chars are:

TheTramp (level 40 human warrior)
Trampette (level 32 gnome mage)
Trampy (level 35 nightelf hunter)

There might be a theme going there with the names :wink:

Don't be impressed though. Be sad for the life I used to have!

[Mostlysane]

As long as you're still dancing. It could be worse.

On Stormrage

Mogle lvl 70 mage
Mostlysane lvl 60 Drood.

[Sparkles]

Finally got my computer out of the dark ages, so might actually start being able to have a go at WoW soon (much to Rob's disgust - I think he's worried he'll lose me in cyberspace :what: )!
My mission to find geekdom continues :devil: ...

[Cruella]

Just say "no".


Finally got my computer out of the dark ages, so might actually start being able to have a go at WoW soon (much to Rob's disgust - I think he's worried he'll lose me in cyberspace :what: )!
My mission to find geekdom continues :devil: ...

Don't do it! :eek: ESG didn't take his own advice and where is he now! Living with Tessalicious in some computerised world, killing peasants! Never to be seen again. We don't want to lose you to the same evil world! :flower: :D

[TheTramp]

Finally got my computer out of the dark ages, so might actually start being able to have a go at WoW soon

Cool. Make sure that you play on Lightbringer, and then Tess and I will be able to help you :D

[NZ Monkey]

Don't be impressed though. Be sad for the life I used to have!I warned you.....:whistle:

[andystyle]

Lol! Lots of WoW addicts here...

I've got a Lvl 54/55 (I can't remember NE Hunter on Terenas (PvE), and a Lvl 20ish Warrior on Agamaggan (PvP). I go through fits and starts with the game - play solid for a while, then go cold-turkey. It's not got a fantastic amount of depth to it - just a grindathon after a while. Still, despite that it is excellent fun.

Anyone up for starting new characters on a jointly-selected server and founding the Ceroc guild...? :wink:

[TheTramp]

Lol! Lots of WoW addicts here...

I've got a Lvl 54/55 (I can't remember NE Hunter on Terenas (PvE), and a Lvl 20ish Warrior on Agamaggan (PvP). I go through fits and starts with the game - play solid for a while, then go cold-turkey. It's not got a fantastic amount of depth to it - just a grindathon after a while. Still, despite that it is excellent fun.

Anyone up for starting new characters on a jointly-selected server and founding the Ceroc guild...? :wink:

Absolutely. In fact, was even thinking about this the other day already!

Okie. Who's up for it? :D

[Dreadful Scathe]

Would be much cheaper for everybody if we played Guild Wars instead - £20 for the game and no monthly fee ;)

[Mostlysane]

I'll join a ceroc guild. that'll be cool. though i'm not sure if i could do all those quests again. what server are you thinking about?

[andystyle]

We'll need to see if people fancy PvP or PvE, Horde or Alliance. It would probably be good for folks to start in the same zone too - that way, we can level like lightning.

Thoughts?

[TheTramp]

Would be much cheaper for everybody if we played Guild Wars instead - £20 for the game and no monthly fee ;)

That may well be true. Go start a Guild Wars thread and discuss that there! :na:


I'll join a ceroc guild. that'll be cool. though i'm not sure if i could do all those quests again. what server are you thinking about?

Tessalicious, ESG and myself are currently on Lightbringer. Seems to work fine. Could do it there. Or somewhere else if anyone has a different preference...

[andystyle]

Are you guys playing with the expansion?

[Dreadful Scathe]

That may well be true. Go start a Guild Wars thread and discuss that there! :na:


You think you're clever being logical and correct, but you're not :)



Tessalicious, ESG and myself are currently on Lightbringer. Seems to work fine. Could do it there. Or somewhere else if anyone has a different preference...

Am i going to have to buy this game then....i think someones needs to start a poll on will you play WoW with other forumites yes/no type thingy....

[Sparkles]

I know I've not played before and would probably be more of a burden than a help, but please don't start without me :flower:

[andystyle]

I know I've not played before and would probably be more of a burden than a help, but please don't start without me :flower:

Not really - it is incredibly easy to pick up.

[andystyle]

Out of curiosity, is Lightbringer PvE? If so, I might very well transfer my main character across - I also fancy starting an Alliance Shaman, cos they rock.

[Tessalicious]

Lightbringer is indeed PvE - question is, Horde or Alliance? I've got both but am enjoying my Horde more at the moment (probably because ESG only plays Horde) but Trampy is already there on Alliance.

[Dreadful Scathe]

Lightbringer is indeed PvE - question is, Horde or Alliance? I've got both but am enjoying my Horde more at the moment (probably because ESG only plays Horde) but Trampy is already there on Alliance.
we could all go horde and hunt Tramp down like a dog :)


....or now, more like a performing seal ;)

[andystyle]

we could all go horde and hunt Tramp down like a dog :)


....or now, more like a performing seal ;)

Lol!

It being a PvE server, it doesn't matter too much if we go Horde or Alliance. Unless we want to get a twink and go on the Battlegrounds, in which case Horde is better as the queues are a lot smaller.

[Dreadful Scathe]

? er... whats a twink ? :) i only played Wow for a few days all in all..

..you'll be dismayed to hear i've ordered the full version to upgrade my trial account :)

[Tessalicious]

It being a PvE server, it doesn't matter too much if we go Horde or Alliance. Point is, if we want to play together, have a guild, etc, we need to be the same Faction. I don't really mind which that much (although I already have an Alliance guild and I'd prefer to continue with my Horde uber-rogue).

[andystyle]

? er... whats a twink ? :) i only played Wow for a few days all in all..

Ooops. Showing my geek credentials there....

Battlegrounds (the PvP arena you can go on if you fancy a wee scuffle) is tiered by level so you don't have Lvl 5's being ganked by Lvl 55's. I think it goes something like Lvl 10-19, 20-29, 30-39 etc. A twink is a character 'sponsored' by your main character - basically, you level your twink to 19, 29, 39 etc and then tool them out with the best kit going by using your main to trawl the lower levels for the correct gear. This kit is usually better than your average player can get as it doesn't go out-of-date due to the levelling process. The upshot is that the twinks own anyone in Battlegrounds due to high stats and are very, very annoying.

[andystyle]

Point is, if we want to play together, have a guild, etc, we need to be the same Faction. I don't really mind which that much (although I already have an Alliance guild and I'd prefer to continue with my Horde uber-rogue).

What do others think? I'm not fussed (although I'd leave my Alliance main on Terenas if we went Horde). Would anyone like to try PvP? I find it's more fun on those servers as the world can seem a lot more dangerous!

[Mostlysane]

I'd rather not do pvp. It gets to be a pain when you're trying to quest and some bored kid is running around ganking you.

Horde or alliance - i don't mind. I've done a lot of alliance stuff, so maybe a change to horde would be good. But either way. I'm easy.

And it doesn't really matter about the expansion until you get to 60, unless you want to play one of the new races blood elves or draeni. But we can live without it i'm sure. there's plenty to do in the original game

[killingtime]

I'll join a ceroc guild. that'll be cool. though i'm not sure if i could do all those quests again. what server are you thinking about?

:eek:

Nooooooooo...

I play too many computer games as it is. I've always avoided MMOs as I worry that I can't just "put it aside" because I'll always know that other people are probably going on quests etc. Having a Ceroc guild maybe is that temptation I don't need.

I did play World of Warcrack briefly on my brother's account and it was alright. Maybe if I knew some of the people on the server it would have been better (or worse for me depending on how you look at it). I still play some multiplayer games online: Civ IV and Enemy Territory mostly at the moment.

[TheTramp]

Are you guys playing with the expansion?


And it doesn't really matter about the expansion until you get to 60, unless you want to play one of the new races blood elves or draeni. But we can live without it i'm sure. there's plenty to do in the original game

I am. But as MS says, that doesn't actually matter, apart from the odd tweak.


we could all go horde and hunt Tramp down like a dog :)

....or now, more like a performing seal ;)

Bring it on baby!

Actually, I could open a 2nd account, have 2 computers, and join you in the hunt! :na:


I'd rather not do pvp. It gets to be a pain when you're trying to quest and some bored kid is running around ganking you.

Yeah. I tend to agree. If it wasn't for the idiots you get on PvP, it'd probably be fun. But I'm sure that you get plenty of small people there, who would do that, just to be annoying....


Horde or alliance - i don't mind. I've done a lot of alliance stuff, so maybe a change to horde would be good. But either way. I'm easy.

Ummm. I don't mind. I guess Tess wants to use her new rogue, so I'm happy to go horde on Lightbringer as well. Is everyone else cool with that??

(Although, I can provide more help with Alliance to the new starters, as I know those quests, and have chars to help out with equipment and suchlike).

What are we going to call the guild?

[Tessalicious]

Ummm. I don't mind. I guess Tess wants to use her new rogue, so I'm happy to go horde on Lightbringer as well. Is everyone else cool with that??say yes, say yes...
What are we going to call the guild?It's pretty much got to be a choice between "L'Armée des filles" and "The Grey Milice" hasn't it really? Or maybe "MJMF", "Ceroc conquerors" or even "Tramp's bitches"?

[Sparkles]

I don't mind Alliance or Horde - I've read up on both, and seeing as I'm new if someone shouts "we'll need a <insert character description> in our guild" I'm happy to give it a go.

No starting till after Storm! Everyone got that?! (please :flower: )

[andystyle]

I'm fine with Horde. I'm going on holiday for 2 weeks, so no doubt I'll come home and you'll all be Level 50 or something...:rolleyes:


say yes, say yes...It's pretty much got to be a choice between "L'Armée des filles" and "The Grey Milice" hasn't it really? Or maybe "MJMF", "Ceroc conquerors" or even "Tramp's bitches"?

As for the name? How about 'Google Ceroc and See'...I wonder how long it would take for Blizzard to pan us for advertising...

[robd]

? er... whats a twink ? :)


Unless we want to get a twink and go on the Battlegrounds,

I'd be very interested to know how a twink (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twink_%28gay_slang%29)would help you on the battlegrounds. I'm sure it will come to me in time.

[TheTramp]

So. That's 4 votes for Horde on Lightbringer (or don't minds!)? None against so far. I've just started my own Blood Elf Rogue then. Just to be ahead of the game so-to-speak (although, not so far ahead as Tess is!)! :wink:

I think that the name should have Ceroc somewhere in the title. Although, "L'Armée des filles et Tramps" does have a certain ring!

[Dreadful Scathe]

sIt's pretty much got to be a choice between "L'Armée des filles" and "The Grey Milice" hasn't it really? Or maybe "MJMF", "Ceroc conquerors" or even "Tramp's bitches"?

I quite like "The Licious" as it sounds like a band

or the Clerks 2 stylee and indicative of messing up the game for ESG name of "Donky ****ers"

"The Tramps" is ok , multiple meanings are good :). I did once ask the Tramp years ago if he was named after the Sinatra number "The Lady is a tramp"(or whatever its called) but he replied, perhaps thinking i was serious,"no from Lady and the Tramp the Disney Film" ;)

[Mostlysane]

Cool - horde on Lightbringer works for me. Will go have a look myself.

Now what race. Are we all aiming to start in the same area? or doesn't it matter to much for the first few levels - they happen very quickly. If we start making blood elves, we will all need TBC to be able to play together.

The only possible reason i could see for not using Ceroc is that it's a trademarked name. Big Mike might not like it and as you said, Blizz might complain about the use of commercial names. OK - the two possible reasons....

And of course we need 10 people to sign the charter and get the guild up and running, but that'll be easy enough to do.

So are we going to do it?

[Mostlysane]

:eek:
Having a Ceroc guild maybe is that temptation I don't need.


mate - it's being in a guild that makes these games. You can spend almost as much time gossing as you do playing. :)

[killingtime]

mate - it's being in a guild that makes these games. You can spend almost as much time gossing as you do playing. :)

I already have instant messenging, I'm good :).

To be fair the only time I started being interested in Internet gaming rather than LAN parties is the use of Voice over IP stuff. It makes it much less like you are fighting faceless machines (though I play against my friends so it doesn't feel like I'm playing against a group of 12 year olds).

If I did join I'd probably "Leeeee-roy Jenkins" for the whole game.

[TheTramp]

So are we going to do it?

I've already started!! :wink:

[Dreadful Scathe]

I already have instant messenging, I'm good :).

To be fair the only time I started being interested in Internet gaming rather than LAN parties is the use of Voice over IP stuff. It makes it much less like you are fighting faceless machines (though I play against my friends so it doesn't feel like I'm playing against a group of 12 year olds).

If I did join I'd probably "Leeeee-roy Jenkins" for the whole game.

can you use VoIp in WoW ? I'd do your head in , really I would :) "You'll rue the day you crossed me demon, ill make a handbag out of you..." , "back to hades you gutless spawn of a vegetable pasty"...gets old quickly (you bunch of frightened cheese eating surrender monkeys you)

[killingtime]

can you use VoIp in WoW?

Pass; but you can just use Teamspeak or something anyway.

[TheTramp]

can you use VoIp in WoW ? I'd do your head in , really I would :) "You'll rue the day you crossed me demon, ill make a handbag out of you..." , "back to hades you gutless spawn of a vegetable pasty"...gets old quickly (you bunch of frightened cheese eating surrender monkeys you)

I so want to team with you. Although, I might not be able to actually do anything for laughing! :D

[andystyle]

If I did join I'd probably "Leeeee-roy Jenkins" for the whole game.

Please. Resist the urge...

[Mostlysane]

Please. Resist the urge...

Definitely. That's my job.....

[andystyle]

Definitely. That's my job.....


Oh, dear. :rolleyes:

So. What race/class are people thinking of going?

[Tessalicious]

Well, I'm already lvl 30 with my blood elf rogue...

Can I be guild leader? Pretty please? Ooooh, the power!

Her name is Toireasa - send me mail whenever you've made a character and we'll have a guild charter in no time!

[Mostlysane]

I'm a blood elf warlock. Thrull is my name

I think i'm level 6, though i may be wrong.

What are we calling ourselves?

[Dreadful Scathe]

We are The Licious

[Sparkles]

Just had the baaaaaaaaaaaad idea of a Scottish/English (or at least geographically situated, before Trampy starts up :rolleyes: ) Alliance/Horde divide...
Mwahahahahaha :devil:

:innocent:

[andystyle]

Typical. I fire up WoW and...'Downloading Update'.

Snarl!

Hmmm, I quite fancy a shaman and I do have a soft-spot for the Tauren. Or a hunter - good survivors in PvE!

[Sparkles]

Did anybody at all hear me say "please wait till after Storm"????
Humph
I'm gonna be the baby in this I can tell....

*Sparkles goes off to sulk in a corner*

[TheTramp]

You can join in whenever you like Sparkles. I won't be doing much until after Storm anyhow, since I'm teaching tonight, and leaving at 6am tomorrow morning!

I vote Tess for guild leader, and me for her 2nd (we are allowed to vote for ourselves, right? :na: ).

My blood elf rogue is called Nekiar

[Dreadful Scathe]

Did anybody at all hear me say "please wait till after Storm"????
Humph
I'm gonna be the baby in this I can tell....

*Sparkles goes off to sulk in a corner*
Ive only just ordered the full game, ill be killing the puny henchman when i eventually get started :)

[Sparkles]

Ive only just ordered the full game, ill be killing the puny henchman when i eventually get started :)

I need to get the new version, but it shouldn't be hard to get hold of. This looks like it'll be fun :clap:

[andystyle]

TBC is 1.25GB to download - I don't know about the full version of the original WoW. At any rate, I'll be popping into Lightbringer shortly...

[Shodan]

Can we start up a "Sticky Thread" or whatever with all our gamertags or WoW character names in them? We've done this on other forums I frequent and it makes it easy to find out who is who in the games. :nice:

[Mostlysane]

Ive only just ordered the full game, ill be killing the puny henchman when i eventually get started :)

Mate - that's all we're doing


I need to get the new version, but it shouldn't be hard to get hold of. This looks like it'll be fun :clap:

You can download the expansion from the wow website. I think it's cheaper than buying the cd


TBC is 1.25GB to download - I don't know about the full version of the original WoW. At any rate, I'll be popping into Lightbringer shortly...

Cool - let us know who you are in game and we'll say hello


Can we start up a "Sticky Thread" or whatever with all our gamertags or WoW character names in them? We've done this on other forums I frequent and it makes it easy to find out who is who in the games. :nice:

It would be nice. Or just add people to your friends list in game.

[andystyle]

Cool - let us know who you are in game and we'll say hello

I'm a Bloodelf mage called Shem. Unfortunately, I won't be on much between now and the middle of March as I'm away. But I'll see you all when I get back. :nice:

[killingtime]

Her name is Toireasa - send me mail whenever you've made a character and we'll have a guild charter in no time!

Track her progress in the armoury (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Toireasa) :D.

I couldn't find the guild in there though :(.

[David Bailey]

Should this thread be in "Fun and Games"?
('Coz then I can ignore it...)

[Dreadful Scathe]

So how is this progressing ? I have a beautiful orc warrior named Shirley. She has pigtails. I'm on Lightbringer, as , i hope, are the rest of you :)

[Sparkles]

Have uploaded WoW plus the expansion pack... not online yet but will be asap. Sorry to be so slow :blush:

[Tessalicious]

So how is this progressing ? I have a beautiful orc warrior named Shirley. She has pigtails. I'm on Lightbringer, as , i hope, are the rest of you :)I'm going to look into setting up a guild tomorrow - does anyone have any objections to 'The Licious'? (DS's suggestion, not mine!) I need 9 signatures though, I think I'd be on 6 at the moment...

[TheTramp]

Ummmm..... I was originally thinking something more dance-related. But, having said that, I don't have any strong views.

Is there any minimum requirement for making a signature? I'm sure that something could be arranged! I'm feeling the need for an undead warlock quite strongly for example! :yum:

[NZ Monkey]

I'm going to look into setting up a guild tomorrow - does anyone have any objections to 'The Licious'? (DS's suggestion, not mine!) I need 9 signatures though, I think I'd be on 6 at the moment...If I could play on European servers I'd be right there for you :flower:

[TheTramp]

I'm going to transfer one of my characters onto an American server for the 3 months I'm down there Shanon. Will look forward to playing with you then! :D

[Tessalicious]

Ummmm..... I was originally thinking something more dance-related. But, having said that, I don't have any strong views.So was I, but someone rightly pointed out that it might be considered advertising. I'm open to suggestions (but only clean ones).
Is there any minimum requirement for making a signature? I'm sure that something could be arranged! I'm feeling the need for an undead warlock quite strongly for example! :yum:I'm not sure - it does say distinct player signatures, but it's worth a try. Alternatively, I'm sure I can find a few friends to sign it as well, if no-one has any objections to there being a few non-forumites on there!

I was looking at a tabard design too - there's nothing properly dancy but I'm liking the winged feet icon in theory (orange and black colour-scheme anyone?).

[NZ Monkey]

I'm going to transfer one of my characters onto an American server for the 3 months I'm down there Shanon. Will look forward to playing with you then! :D
You're playing Alliance right? PvP or PvE? I say start with a Horde character and prepare to be bankrolled when you get here :D

[Dreadful Scathe]

well I vote for "the licious" :) but a poll could sort this, a poll could also sort out who the players actually are - as ive lost track..

for a tabard - a winged smurf would be nice :) but can i assume you cant do your own ?

[TheTramp]

You're playing Alliance right? PvP or PvE? I say start with a Horde character and prepare to be bankrolled when you get here :D

Hmmm. Could do that I suppose. Then port it back when I come home!! :)

Okie. Start saving up all the good equipment then! :wink:

[TheTramp]

well I vote for "the licious" :) but a poll could sort this, a poll could also sort out who the players actually are - as ive lost track..

for a tabard - a winged smurf would be nice :) but can i assume you cant do your own ?

Okie. I don't have any real objections to "The Licious" :D

I think that the players are:

TessaLicious
ESG
DS
MostlySane
Sparkles
Andystyle
Me

[Mostlysane]

So was I, but someone rightly pointed out that it might be considered advertising. I'm open to suggestions (but only clean ones).


erm - thinking hat on.

Jive Warriors?
Chaos Marauders?
Lords of Dance?
Basket Cases?
Double Pretzel?

We could just use Ceroc in the title and say sod it. The worst that might happen is we have to get another guild name if people complain

[Mostlysane]

it does say distinct player signatures, but it's worth a try. Alternatively, I'm sure I can find a few friends to sign it as well, if no-one has any objections to there being a few non-forumites on there!


And we can ask them to sign and they can leave once the guild is created. You only need 10 to get going, after that, you can have as few as you want.

[Tessalicious]

erm - thinking hat on.

Jive Warriors?
Chaos Marauders?
Lords of Dance?
Basket Cases?
Double Pretzel?

We could just use Ceroc in the title and say sod it. The worst that might happen is we have to get another guild name if people complainI like Jive Warriors, I have to say - although I can think of some 14-year-olds who would take a completely different meaning of the word 'jive' from that...

Moderator, can we have a poll with the suggestions that have been put forward?

[andystyle]

And we can ask them to sign and they can leave once the guild is created. You only need 10 to get going, after that, you can have as few as you want.

The guildmaster can boot 'em out, as well.

I'm not fussed about the guild name. I don't play a terrible amount so I'll leave the decision to other, more devoted WoWers. :wink:

Unfortunately, I can't help with any signature as I'm on holiday until Sunday. Looking forward to joining!

[Sparkles]

I think that the players are:

TessaLicious
ESG
DS
MostlySane
Sparkles
Andystyle
Me

I think it would also be good to know what class people are playing, thire level and online character name... maybe people could fill themselves in on the list, please? :flower:

[Tessalicious]

Toireasa - blood elf rogue, 34 (at the moment).

Apparently I'm not allowed to tell you all what ESG is - so you'll have to find out for yourselves.

[TheTramp]

I think it would also be good to know what class people are playing, thire level and online character name... maybe people could fill themselves in on the list, please? :flower:

Vakiar. Blood elf. Rogue. 12 (I think). That'll change though.


Apparently I'm not allowed to tell you all what ESG is - so you'll have to find out for yourselves.

I know! :wink:

Of course, knowing his name would help (unless it's actually ESG!). I'm not going to walk up to all the *********'s on LB, saying, are you ESG? :D

(Random number of *, so don't read anything into that!)

[Beowulf]

Am currently looking into Buying a copy of WoW so I'll join in at some point.

Was more of an EvE Online player.. now if I could somehow fly my Level II Battleship to the planet where you lot are skirmishing I could provide most excellent Space to planet ground defence ;)

Is there a trial download? you could download EvE and play it for a week for free before you purchased time..

[Dreadful Scathe]

I bought a trial copy from a shop at Christmas time for 2 euros which gives 14 days but have not seen that in the UK. To be honest though, its better you just buy the full version as its only 9.99 with free postage from gameplay (http://www.gameplay.com) and you get the first full month of play free. The alternative is of course someone sends you their "introduce a friend" trial and you download it - that gives you 10 days play and its completely free - if you wait until im back in the country (this Thursday) ..Ill send you all the info ;)


*edit: auto URL build with adverts from the site in question , is rather disturbing - but an interesting feature :)

[Tessalicious]

Is there a trial download? you could download EvE and play it for a week for free before you purchased time..You're welcome to have one of my 10-day free trials, Beo - PM me for the code (I think you can download the game from the website). However, the character you make has a level limit as well as not being able to do various things like trading and joining guilds :tears:, and I'm not sure whether you can port it over if you upgrade your account, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

[Dreadful Scathe]

trial accounts are fine - as I said (pay attention Tessa ;)) I had one. I managed to get to lvl 13 with my rogue in 14 days of occasional play and i doubt beo will manage much more (i.e. if theres a level limit - he wont see it) - you can do everything bar trading and joining guilds but that doesnt stop Beo joining a party. Once the trial is over you simply buy the full version and type the new key from the box into your account page on the web and continue where you left off. So if Beo creates a character on Lightbringer it will still be there when he upgrades.

The download is BIG though - if he is going to create a trial account and download it.

Beo, all things considered - £9.99 for full version ? :)

[Beowulf]

Beo, all things considered - £9.99 for full version ? :)

Hmm.. yup, Well I'm in London this weekend.. but I don't think I have anything planned for next weekend ;) (or any other night after that.. do you think Twirly will mind being a WoW Widow? ;) )

[Dreadful Scathe]

Hmm.. yup, Well I'm in London this weekend.. but I don't think I have anything planned for next weekend ;) (or any other night after that.. do you think Twirly will mind being a WoW Widow? ;) )
bear in mind its £9.99 from gameplay with free 2nd class postage - its probably more expensive from a high street shop :) i would order it now if i were you :)

[TheTramp]

I think that I saw the original version in Game for £9.99 when I went in to buy the update...

Alternatively, if you're coming along tonight or next week, I can loan you the CDs, and a 10 day free trial.

[Dreadful Scathe]

ok the players are:

TessaLicious : Toireasa : blood elf : rogue : 34
ESG :
DS : Shirley : Orc : Warrior : 1
MostlySane : Thrull : blood elf : warlock : 6
Sparkles :
Andystyle : Shem: Blood Elf: Mage : ?
Tramp : Vakiar. Blood elf. Rogue. 12 (I think)
Shodan :
StrayCat264 * :



*PC/Mac version are in same box ;)

and we are all on LIGHTBRINGER. Ill have a go tonight and get past the creation of my character ;)

but....whats with all the bloody elves ???

[Tessalicious]

but....whats with all the bloody elves ???Elves are pretty. And we lull you into a false sense of security with our prettiness, before we cut you down, skin you and send your innards to your children.

[Dreadful Scathe]

they say people go for something that looks a bit like them - tessa licious aside.....what are the rest of you thinking ?!?!? :)

[Sparkles]

TessaLicious : Toireasa : blood elf : rogue : 34
ESG :
DS : Shirley : Orc : Warrior : 1
MostlySane : Thrull : blood elf : warlock : 6
Sparkles : Sparklette : blood elf : priest : 5
Andystyle : Shem: Blood Elf: Mage : ?
Tramp : Vakiar. Blood elf. Rogue. 12 (I think)
Shodan :
StrayCat264 * :

[Ghost]

Quiz: Which World of Warcraft Race are you? (Blood elf and draenai results coming soon) My Yearbook - You've got friends (http://quiz.myyearbook.com/zenhex/quiz.php?id=50786)

:wink:

[Dreadful Scathe]

another pretty one ! im going to feel like an outcast :)

[killingtime]

Right so I've linked to all the people I could find, it might take time to list some people or some such. I'm still not convinced about the wisdom in me playing mind.

TessaLicious: Toireasa (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Toireasa) : blood elf : rogue : 34
ESG:
DS: Shirley : Orc : Warrior : 1
MostlySane: Thrull (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Thrull) : blood elf : warlock : 6
Sparkles: Sparklette (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparklette) : blood elf : priest : 5
Andystyle: Shem (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shem): Blood Elf: Mage : 5
Tramp: Vakiar. Blood elf. Rogue. 12 (I think)
Shodan:
StrayCat264 *:

[Dreadful Scathe]

thanks for adding yourself to the list then :rolleyes:

[andystyle]

Andystyle: Shem: Blood Elf: Mage : ?


Level 5 or 6 (I've only played him for about an hour or so). Will be doing some power-levelling in the next wee while...

[Dreadful Scathe]

in an hour ?!? i thought i was doing well getting to level 8 in 4 hours :)

which makes me

shirley: orc: warrior : 8

[TheTramp]

Right so I've linked to all the people I could find

Oops. The reason you couldn't find me, is cos the name of my elf is Nekiar. Oops :blush:

[Sparkles]

another pretty one ! im going to feel like an outcast :)

I thought the idea was that we were all Blood elves so we could play together :what:

[Dreadful Scathe]

nobody told me - i missed that memo. im sure i can get to where you are theres some airsihp or something somewhere :)

anyway, orcs are prettier on the inside :)

[killingtime]

I thought the idea was that we were all Blood elves so we could play together :what:

You don't all have to be Blood Elves but you do all need to be Horde. Which Orcs are, so it's all good.

[Dreadful Scathe]

i realise that, its just the distance between the home of the blood elves and the home of the orcs. It meant I was in the hotel room last night playing with myself.







no comments please :)

[Tiggerbabe]

It meant I was in the hotel room last night playing with myself.







no comments please :)
Mrmphhhhhhhhh :respect:

[Sparkles]

I was in the hotel room last night playing with myself.

I asked you to come and play with me, but you couldn't reach me :sad:

[Dreadful Scathe]

There was lots of water between us :)

[Shodan]

TessaLicious: Toireasa (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Toireasa) : blood elf : rogue : 34
ESG:
DS: Shirley : Orc : Warrior : 1
MostlySane: Thrull (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Thrull) : blood elf : warlock : 6
Sparkles: Sparklette (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparklette) : blood elf : priest : 5
Andystyle: Shem (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shem): Blood Elf: Mage : 5
Tramp: Vakiar. Blood elf. Rogue. 12 (I think)
Shodan:
StrayCat264 *:
I don't have a Horde character yet. I spend all my WoW time playing my Human Paladin (45 on Eonar) with my sister and her bloke, and also sometimes my Night Elf Hunter (37 on Darkspear). When I do create one, it'll probably be an Undead character as its the ancient evil enemy of my Paladin. :waycool:

[Mostlysane]

so it looks like we've got enough for a guild already - cool. Must get back online and do some more work on my lock. must get back to glueing sparkles onto my shirt for blackpool. Hmm, i wonder which one is more fun

[Dreadful Scathe]

what are you doing to Sparkles exactly :eek: ?

[Mostlysane]

what are you doing to Sparkles exactly :eek: ?

:)

Well at the moment - supposedly glueing green ones to my shirt. Supposedly

[TheTramp]

Okie. The dance guild is on the move. Charter has been done, and signed by at least 3 people now...

And Sparkles and I played together for a few hours last night, which was good fun :D

[Tessalicious]

..and donations to the tabard cost would be most welcome, if anyone wants us to have a tabard (it's 10g to buy the design).

[Dreadful Scathe]

I'm currently saving up to have 1 gold - so i wont be a lot of help yet.

Anyone got any advice about methods of travel between continents ? portals, airships, flying beasties...whatever ?

So is there a name for the guild yet ?

[Tessalicious]

The guild is 'The Licious' and you will get an invite when I'm on next, which might be about midnight tonight or might be tomorrow or even Saturday.

As Horde, you get between continents by zeppelin. You won't need it yet but the boat goes between Ratchet and Booty Bay, otherwise use the zeppelin to get between Undercity, Orgrimmar and Grom'Gol (also somewhere you won't need to go for a while). Unlike flight masters, the zeppelin towers are outside the cities - out of Orgrimmar and turn left, or out of Undercity and straight ahead.

There's also a flight master (wind rider or bat) in pretty much every town big enough to have an inn, and some that aren't too. Sometimes they're quite hard to find, so just ask if you get lost. They go more places than the zeps, and stop you having to run places (after you've run there the first time of course), but cost money, so you have to decide what's important to you.

[Sparkles]

Similarly to DS I have very little money at the moment, but as soon as I get some it's yours - or, I could make some things to sell and give you the profits :). Next time I see you online Tess I'll sign too.

Thanks to Trampy's help I'm now level 8 and feel a bit more confident about going and getting thoses beasties! (I was a bit scared at first :sick: )

So what professions does everyone have?
I'm learning tailoring and skinning :)

[Sparkles]

TessaLicious : Toireasa : blood elf : rogue : 34
ESG :
DS : Shirley : Orc : Warrior : 8
MostlySane : Thrull : blood elf : warlock : 6
Sparkles : Sparklette : blood elf : priest : 8 : skinning : tailoring
Andystyle : Shem: Blood Elf: Mage : ?
Tramp : Nekiar : Blood elf : Rogue : 13 : mining : jewelcrafting
Shodan :
StrayCat264 * :

[TheTramp]

..and donations to the tabard cost would be most welcome, if anyone wants us to have a tabard (it's 10g to buy the design).

I've sent you 2g today :)

[TheTramp]

TessaLicious : Toireasa : blood elf : rogue : 34 : skinning : leatherworking
ESG : : : hunter :
DS : Shirley : Orc : Warrior : 8 : mining : blacksmithing
MostlySane : Thrull : blood elf : warlock : 6
Sparkles : Sparklette : blood elf : priest : 8 : skinning : tailoring
Andystyle : Shem: Blood Elf: Mage : ?
Tramp : Nekiar : Blood elf : Rogue : 15 : mining : jewelcrafting
Shodan :
StrayCat264 * :

[Sparkles]

Er, just noticed a problem, I need to learn how to send mail to send you some money Tess... :rolleyes:

[andystyle]

Er, just noticed a problem, I need to learn how to send mail to send you some money Tess... :rolleyes:

Piece o' cake. Go to a mailbox, click 'Send Mail', put in the amount you want to send. Type in Tess' alter-ego and click send. Robert's your father's brother. :nice:

On another note, I come home soon so should be on at some point in Sunday/Monday. Looking forward to it!

[Shodan]

Do any of you use "Ventrilo"? Its a broadband voice-chatting system that allows you to talk to other people. I use it when playing WoW with my sister and her bloke. It makes it a lot easier to co-ordinate WoW playing. :nice:

Do a Google for Ventrilo and someone set it up. Then we can actually talk to each other whilst playing instead of the WoW typing system. :waycool:

[Dreadful Scathe]

used to use RogerWilko years ago for online games and hundreds of that type of program have come up since then.

More recently I' ve used Skype, which is fine for a game like WoW which is not a bandwidth hog.

Not heard of ventrilo - is it the best one ?
(calling it a "broadband" system doesnt make it sound particularly efficient)

[Shodan]

used to use RogerWilko years ago for online games and hundreds of that type of program have come up since then.

More recently I' ve used Skype, which is fine for a game like WoW which is not a bandwidth hog.

Not heard of ventrilo - is it the best one ?
(calling it a "broadband" system doesnt make it sound particularly efficient)
Sorry, yes Ventrilo is the same as Roger Wilco (I used that as well before they made you pay for it).

Ventrilo isn't a broadband thing really, I just said that as I wouldn't want to use any chat software over a Dial-up. :rofl: But yeah, as you say same as Skype, Roger Wilco etc etc. Just made by a different company.

[Tessalicious]

I use Skype quite happily. I don't like Vent, for some reason. Probably the noises aren't as cool or something.

[killingtime]

Sorry, yes Ventrilo is the same as Roger Wilco (I used that as well before they made you pay for it).

Ventrilo isn't a broadband thing really, I just said that as I wouldn't want to use any chat software over a Dial-up. :rofl: But yeah, as you say same as Skype, Roger Wilco etc etc. Just made by a different company.

Well some codecs can be bandwidth hogs. Often because they go for the best voice quality they can. I use TeamSpeak for my gaming comms which is free but you'll need to find a TeamSpeak server. I'll often host when it is just a few of my friends but for larger groups you'll need a fatter pipe on the server.

So Skype does n-way calls? Cool.

[Mostlysane]

Do any of you use "Ventrilo"? Its a broadband voice-chatting system that allows you to talk to other people. I use it when playing WoW with my sister and her bloke. It makes it a lot easier to co-ordinate WoW playing. :nice:

Do a Google for Ventrilo and someone set it up. Then we can actually talk to each other whilst playing instead of the WoW typing system. :waycool:


yeah - i use it all the time. it's not too bad. Though some of the people i play with have had problems with it in the past

[Mostlysane]

For the list. A great guild there, a tank, healer and some dps. We'll be raiding in no time. :)

MostlySane : Thrull : blood elf : warlock : 13 :
mining :
jewelcrafting

[TheTramp]

TessaLicious : Toireasa : blood elf : rogue : 34 : skinning : leatherworking
ESG : : : hunter :
DS : Shirley : Orc : Warrior : 8 : mining : blacksmithing
MostlySane : Thrull : blood elf : warlock : 13 : mining : jewelcrafting
Sparkles : Sparklette : blood elf : priest : 8 : skinning : tailoring
Andystyle : Shem: Blood Elf: Mage : ?
Tramp : Nekiar : Blood elf : Rogue : 16 : mining : jewelcrafting
Shodan :
StrayCat264 * :

[Dreadful Scathe]

it does indeed - and it will do n-way video calls too with a plug-in. :)

[killingtime]

it does indeed - and it will do n-way video calls too with a plug-in. :)

Cool. It's something Google Talk still lacks. I'm a fan of that because of the whole open platform thing...

Sorry I do witter at times don't I?

[Sparkles]

Now that I've finally made level 10 you can see my profile properly Sparklette (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparklette) and I wondered if I could ask a couple of questions from the people who know what they're doing...?

You can see that my unarmed skill is 0/50 ... how do I fight without a weapon (if I don't select anything and something comes attacking me it seems I just stand there and get killed rather than fighting unarmed :what: )? Also what is the best way to build up unarmed skill without just getting beaten to a pulp?

Lots of my quests seem to need me to go find someone or something in Eversong woods. these are EMENSE and I have spent ages just running around trying to work out where I need to be! I know that a little gold dot will show up when I am close, but it would appear I haven't even been close :sad:. How do I know where to go? The main map is pretty useless for finding specific things unless you're in the city.

I'm learning tailoring, so if anyone needs anything made from cloth (at the moment I can only make things from linen) please let me know. Also, if anyone has spare linen or wool that they don't need please can you post it to me (and I will, of course return the favour if I get things you might need :flower: )?

Some of my armour needs to be repaired. I thought that I could repair it at any goods seller, but it seems this is not the case. Are there only specific places/people I can see to repair armour?

Thanks in advance for help with these questions, sorry if some of the questions are silly, but I'm new to all this!

[Aleks]

You can see that my unarmed skill is 0/50 ... how do I fight without a weapon (if I don't select anything and something comes attacking me it seems I just stand there and get killed rather than fighting unarmed :what: )? Also what is the best way to build up unarmed skill without just getting beaten to a pulp?


IIRC my unarmed skill increased when my opponent disarmed me and I was forced to fight bare-handed, just during the normal course of an attack - your character's hands will glow red when this happens.

[Sparkles]

Also, why doesn't the picture on my profile look like my character? Tessalicious' looks like her's... :what:

[Tessalicious]

Now that I've finally made level 10:respect: :clap: Gratz!
You can see that my unarmed skill is 0/50 ... how do I fight without a weapon (if I don't select anything and something comes attacking me it seems I just stand there and get killed rather than fighting unarmed :what: )? Also what is the best way to build up unarmed skill without just getting beaten to a pulp?If you open your character window and your backpack and drag-and-drop your weapon from your hand to your backpack, you will put it away. Until you equip it again, you will be unarmed. Don't fight anything that's higher level than you - stick with several levels lower and don't use offensive spells unless you have to (healing ones are fine), then you'll skill up as you do damage.

Aleks is also right that some mobs disarm you - this is why having some skill in unarmed combat can be useful, but it shouldn't really be the only time you practise it.
Lots of my quests seem to need me to go find someone or something in Eversong woods. these are EMENSE and I have spent ages just running around trying to work out where I need to be! I know that a little gold dot will show up when I am close, but it would appear I haven't even been close :sad:. How do I know where to go? The main map is pretty useless for finding specific things unless you're in the city.To be honest, I use Allakhazam, as do most people (or Thottbot). You might find add-ons with map coordinates make things easier too - I'll send you one when I get home. Otherwise, if you don't want to use these "cheats" then you can always ask another player. Sometimes the quest log is helpful enough to give you enough direction to find the place if you wander far enough.

I'm learning tailoring, so if anyone needs anything made from cloth (at the moment I can only make things from linen) please let me know. Also, if anyone has spare linen or wool that they don't need please can you post it to me (and I will, of course return the favour if I get things you might need :flower: )?Of course! Part of having a guild is about sharing stuff between members if it's more useful to someone else.
Some of my armour needs to be repaired. I thought that I could repair it at any goods seller, but it seems this is not the case. Are there only specific places/people I can see to repair armour?Only armor merchants, bowyers, and blacksmithing suppliers can repair armor. For example, in the town you're about to visit (Tranquillien) the only repairer is the blacksmith supplier behind the inn.
Also, why doesn't the picture on my profile look like my character? Tessalicious' looks like her's... :what:Mine doesn't either - on the profile, the picture is the generic blood-elf female, unfortunately.
Thanks in advance for help with these questions, sorry if some of the questions are silly, but I'm new to all this!Don't be silly - questions are things that need answering, therefore they can't possibly be silly!

[NZ Monkey]

/moo

Go on, you know you want to :D

[Sparkles]

Just a quick update: 'The Licious' is finally a guild :clap: - DS, MostlySane and Andystyle you need to get signed up to join us :flower:

I also believe Tessa is still taking donations to go towards funding our Tabard (we can't expect her to pay for the majority of it herself, so if anyone has spare cash... ).

[Tessalicious]

No need to worry about money donations - it's all paid for. You'll need to buy your own tabards anyway, but we have a guild and a design!

Trampy is an officer (as is Alec), so even if I'm not online he can invite any forumites that happen to log on at any abnormal time of day or night :whistle:. That goes for alts too.

I'll also set up one of my other characters as a guild bank, so if anyone has drops they think will be useful for someone else (ie for a lower level guildy) they can post it to Haeli. Anything you need, ingredients for tradeskills or equipment, just post it in here or add a note to your character in the guild book online.

And yes, we do have a few non-forumites in the guild at the moment (mostly Alec's relatives!) but they'll either be completely inactive, or they'll be really useful to have around, so we'll see.

[Mostlysane]

Just a quick update: 'The Licious' is finally a guild :clap: - DS, MostlySane and Andystyle you need to get signed up to join us :flower:

I also believe Tessa is still taking donations to go towards funding our Tabard (we can't expect her to pay for the majority of it herself, so if anyone has spare cash... ).

Cool - i'll be on later tonight. Have had a couple of wow free days to recover from Blackpool

[straycat]

:eek:

Just installed the free trial. Haven't had time to try it yet. Is my life nearly over? Maybe I should delete it rather than risk getting hooked.... :really:

[Sparkles]

:eek:

Just installed the free trial. Haven't had time to try it yet. Is my life nearly over? Maybe I should delete it rather than risk getting hooked.... :really:

Welcome :hug: :devil:

Has anyone else had problems logging in recently? I think it might just be me :rolleyes:. Sometimes it won't let me past the logging in screen (and the only way to rectify that seems to be to keep trying every few minutes). but it's latest blip is that it tells me to pick a realm :confused:.
I've already picked one! Anyway, I do as I'm told, tell them I want an English Normal realm - and it brings up an empty list... I've cancelled out of it and retried several times... maybe leaving it a while is the only way?

[Tessalicious]

The servers are always down (for scheduled maintenance) on Wednesday mornings. They usually come back up at 10, but sometimes they take extra time if there are problems. I guess they figured it was the time when fewest people would be disrupted by being unable to play.

[Dreadful Scathe]

:eek:

Just installed the free trial. Haven't had time to try it yet. Is my life nearly over? Maybe I should delete it rather than risk getting hooked.... :really:
so do you have a character on lightbringer then ?

[Sparkles]

so do you have a character on lightbringer then ?

What part of "haven't had time to try it yet" did you not get? - give the poor guy a chance (and me the credit for giving him my free trial code :wink: ).

[straycat]

What part of "haven't had time to try it yet" did you not get? - give the poor guy a chance (and me the credit for giving him my free trial code :wink: ).

:yeah:
Although sometimes, there's a fine line between 'credit' and 'blame' :devil:

[Dreadful Scathe]

what?? he posted that AGGGGGEEEEES ago.

Have a pat on the back for giving him a code though :)

[Sparkles]

Some of us have to work for a living... or at least show up at work and look vaguely like you're doing something (no WoW on work 'puters, more's the pity).

Blame, credit, I'll take either gladly ;)

[straycat]

Hmmm. Well - tried it tonight - not particularly impressed.

After my machine spent the last couple of days downloading the trial version, i installed it. It then downloaded a 223Mb update (odd that that wasn't included with the trial dowload) - I then set up all the correct firewall stuff, fired it up, and entered username / password. It gets to 'Handshaking', sits there for five minutes, then disconnects.

I'm not sure I see the addiction yet :cool:
Probably for the best tho.

[andystyle]

That sounds about right.

I've tried playing recently, but not having much time to be on the PC at the mo. More's the pity! And when I do get on, I invariably end up getting disconnected due to my wireless connection cutting out...a sign, perhaps? :wink:

[Dreadful Scathe]

update on The Licious (please alter and repost your own)

notice, each person has a link to their character page (ta Killingtime)


TessaLicious: Toireasa (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Toireasa) : blood elf : rogue : 38 : skinning : leatherworking
ESG: : hunter : 41
Dreadful Scathe: Shirley (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shirley ) : Orc : Warrior : 12 : mining : blacksmithing
MostlySane: Thrull (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Thrull) : blood elf : warlock : 15 : mining : jewelcrafting
Sparkles: Sparklette (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparklette) : blood elf : priest : 14 : skinning : tailoring
Andystyle: Shem (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shem): Blood Elf: Mage : 5
Tramp: Nekiar (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Nekiar): Blood Elf: Rogue : 21 : mining : jewelcrafting
Shodan:
StrayCat264:
Beowulf:

[killingtime]

notice, each person has a link to their character page (ta Killingtime)

Each of those also shows who else is in the guild but there is also a link straight to The Licious (http://armory.wow-europe.com/#guild-info.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=The+Licious&p=1) which links to all the characters in the guild.

[Dreadful Scathe]

is this page quite a bit behind the server ? i did notice i do not show up as a member :) (ooh FAQ on page says 24 hours)

its a major coup them getting me to join of course, there was much singing and dancing when i accepted i can tell you :) over the moon they were, I recall words such as "our prayers are answered" "wow DS is joining" "now the Alliance scum will tremble in their fashionable booties"... in fact Sparkles just cried...with happiness I might add :)

[killingtime]

its a major coup them getting me to join of course, there was much singing and dancing when i accepted i can tell you :) over the moon they were, I recall words such as "our prayers are answered" "wow DS is joining" "now the Alliance scum will tremble in their fashionable booties"... in fact Sparkles just cried...with happiness I might add :)

For one it marks an end to it being some form of racist Blood Elf guild... opening its doors to other races of the horde.

I can imagine that moment now though, it's a shame you didn't record it for posterity's sake.

[Sparkles]

in fact Sparkles just cried...with happiness I might add :)

I wasn't crying, I had something in my eye...

Also, Tramp has a second character now (he's helping me out, what a sweetie) whish is also part of the guild :)

[Dreadful Scathe]

Well Mr.Tramp ought to update the list then ;)


and why isn't Alice playing ? :)

[Tessalicious]

In fact, there are another 3 members who aren't visible on here because they're only lvl 1 - and they're all Tauren. So we're quite multi-cultural really.

Oh, and ESG has Alchemy and Herbalism (so unlike him, but never mind!) as his tradeskills. We could do with an enchanter, but maybe it's best we don't have one since they eat money like cows eat grass.

[Dreadful Scathe]

i left it up to ESG to add any character details to the list, he can be secret if he wants :)

why do enchanters eat money ? and what comes out the other end ?

[Beowulf]

update on The Licious (please alter and repost your own)

notice, each person has a link to their character page (ta Killingtime)


Tramp: Nekiar (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Nekiar): Blood Elf: Rogue : 21 : mining : jewelcrafting
Shodan:
StrayCat264:
Beowulf:

erm.. I'm one step behind Stray.. I've not even bought the software yet. Let alone install it and get a character rolled up. Although that said, I will probably be an Orc warrior of some persuasion.

As for skills? what about : Buttkicking & Pwning ? :wink:

[Dreadful Scathe]

those are implied skills :)

and you said you WOULD buy the software so thats enough to get you on the list :)

[Tessalicious]

why do enchanters eat money ? and what comes out the other end ?They eat money because they get their reagents (ingredients) from disenchanting enchanted items - these are the green, blue and purple drops that everyone else makes lots of money from selling. So, in order to fund an enchanter, you either have to have big raids on dungeons and give them all the nice loot (which is really depressing) or buy them stuff from the AH (which is very expensive). The other alternative, of course, is to have them disenchant everything that the other crafters in the guild make, but then the other crafters don't make any money either.
erm.. I'm one step behind Stray.. I've not even bought the software yet. Let alone install it and get a character rolled up. :rolleyes: Men! Get a wiggle on with it, wouldya? We need you, Beo!

[Beowulf]

those are implied skills :)

and you said you WOULD buy the software so that's enough to get you on the list :)


Men! Get a wiggle on with it, wouldya? We need you, Beo!

I know I know.. but I look at WoW and then I look at EvE and I think to myself "But I've got a lovely Level II Mining barge and a fully augmented Battleship for low sector work, and I make and sell my own ships and.. ..." but then I look at WoW and think.. "Cool I get to gut people.."

I WILL get the software and I WILL install it (HMV had the 15 day trial for £1.50 but it said you needed to buy the full version afterwards and your character would be deleted at the end of the 15 day trial)

And do I need the other disk as well? the one that gives you the other characters to play? I will be online soon.. but perhaps not JUST yet

[Tessalicious]

I know I know.. but I look at WoW and then I look at EvE and I think to myself "But I've got a lovely Level II Mining barge and a fully augmented Battleship for low sector work, and I make and sell my own ships and.. ..." but then I look at WoW and think.. "Cool I get to gut people.."Honestly, some people just don't know what's good for them!
And do I need the other disk as well? the one that gives you the other characters to play? I will be online soon.. but perhaps not JUST yetYou don't need it if you're going to play an Orc - you only need it to play a Blood Elf or Draenei, or to get past lvl 70. So that can wait til you are fully addicted :mwua-ha-ha:

[Dreadful Scathe]

I WILL get the software and I WILL install it (HMV had the 15 day trial for £1.50 but it said you needed to buy the full version afterwards and your character would be deleted at the end of the 15 day trial)

Nonsense - where does it say that ?? - i still have my trial character - you just buy the full version after your trial and type in the reg key to continue.

[Beowulf]

Nonsense - where does it say that ?? - i still have my trial character - you just buy the full version after your trial and type in the reg key to continue.

on the small print at the back of the amaray case! :wink: (I always read the small print) but now that I know that.. I might get that one tonight.

I mean.. I'm not dancing at the moment.. I need something to keep me from going stir crazy :)

[Sparkles]

Trampy's alternate character (http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparkling)

:)

[Dreadful Scathe]

gah no one told me that was Trampy :)

[Beowulf]

TGet a wiggle on with it, wouldya? We need you, Beo!


ok ok keep your fur on.. scales.. whatever it is that blood elves have ;)

I've just installed the game (5 disks?!!! and had a look at the manual (HOW BIG?!!) and I'll play the game later and roll up a character.

I'm entertaining friends at the moment, and just finished a 3 course meal but if I have time tonight after they've gone I'll go through the character creation process.

now to think of a suitably Orcish Name ;)

(I was thinking of Fingal... as in.. "oi watchit or dat Fingal get ya !" ..(he'd need to live in a cave.. obviously ;) ) but probably a name like Náshnak or Brack or Nýrag or (am using the orcish name generator program here (http://wow.stratics.com/content/features/name/) btw ;) ) would be more fitting for a Orc :)

so I'll be on-line soon..

[Dreadful Scathe]

make sure its Lightbringer server and let me know when you're playing so i can help :)

[TheTramp]

update on The Licious (please alter and repost your own)

notice, each person has a link to their character page (ta Killingtime)


TessaLicious: Toireasa (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Toireasa) : blood elf : rogue : 38 : skinning : leatherworking
ESG: : hunter : 41
Dreadful Scathe: Shirley (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shirley ) : Orc : Warrior : 12 : mining : blacksmithing
MostlySane: Thrull (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Thrull) : blood elf : warlock : 15 : mining : jewelcrafting
Sparkles: Sparklette (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparklette) : blood elf : priest : 14 : skinning : tailoring
Andystyle: Shem (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shem): Blood Elf: Mage : 5
Tramp: Nekiar (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Nekiar): Blood Elf: Rogue : 21 : mining : jewelcrafting
Tramp: Sparkling (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparkling): Blood Elf: Paladin : 14 : mining : engineering
Shodan:
StrayCat264:
Beowulf:


They eat money because they get their reagents (ingredients) from disenchanting enchanted items - these are the green, blue and purple drops that everyone else makes lots of money from selling. So, in order to fund an enchanter, you either have to have big raids on dungeons and give them all the nice loot (which is really depressing) or buy them stuff from the AH (which is very expensive). The other alternative, of course, is to have them disenchant everything that the other crafters in the guild make, but then the other crafters don't make any money either.:rolleyes:

Yeah. This is all true. I've got an enchanting character on the alliance side with 205 in his enchanting skill. It's cost me more than I like to think to get that. Although, he does have an impressive amount of mats in the bank now. If you ever make an alliance char, and need enchantments.. I'm your man :D


Trampy's alternate character (http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparkling):)

Sorry DS. Didn't I mention that when I was talking to you the other day? Who did you think that it was?

[Dreadful Scathe]

ok ok keep your fur on.. scales.. whatever it is that blood elves have ;)

I dont know either, Ive yet to see one. I did try and head up to the NE where Sparkles was, thinking if i kept to the paths I'd be fine. After entering the Western Plaguelands I met a large diseased bear who took one swipe at me and, luckily for me, then ran off. I lost 3 quarters of my health to that one swipe. Just as I wavered in my decision to carry on, a vicious spider spotted me; like the bear this too had a skull symbol for its level. I ran. I'm not going back to the Western Plaguelands for a while :)



I've just installed the game (5 disks?!!! and had a look at the manual (HOW BIG?!!) and I'll play the game later and roll up a character.

Don't even bother reading the manual. It really is intuitive and little boxes pop-up anytime you do anything new. Ask people on here for any help you need.



now to think of a suitably Orcish Name ;).

You can't beat "Shirley" for an appropriate name. I'd suggest "Lick Lick" as something that goes well with "The Licious" :) Although why you don't just use the excellent "Beowulf" i don't know ;)



Sorry DS. Didn't I mention that when I was talking to you the other day? Who did you think that it was?

I assumed one of Sparkles many admirers :) Ta for the jewelery btw :)

[David Bailey]

Note: I've moved this thread to Fun and Games, as it's a game...

[Tessalicious]

It's not a game, it's a way of life. Therefore, it belongs in Geeks Corner.

Honestly, you wouldn't want a thread about Tango to be moved to Beginners Corner, would you?

[ducasi]

Note: I've moved this thread to Fun and Games, as it's a game...
Just don't dwell on the "fun" part too much. ;)

[Beowulf]

Note: I've moved this thread to Fun and Games, as it's a game...

Sigh.. DJ doesn't understand geeks does he?

[Dreadful Scathe]

Note: I've moved this thread to Fun and Games, as it's a game...
u is teh n00b :)

[Beowulf]

Well I have a character, and he's an orc and he's on lightsabre.. lampshade.. whatever.. and he was there just long enough to pop in and gut some boars.

BTW DJ, all that talk about Wii's and Xboxes? they're GAMES machines. and PC@s play games too. and all these threads about magic the gathering they're games too.

theres a difference between a Flash game online .. and a discussion of Computer games , MMORPGS and Card games. Since everyone posting in this thread was more than happy for it to remain there, and everyone posting in that thread was in some small way a geek, who are you moving it for?

[Dreadful Scathe]

Well I have a character, and he's an orc and he's on lightsabre.. lampshade.. whatever.. and he was there just long enough to pop in and gut some boars.

BTW DJ, all that talk about Wii's and Xboxes? they're GAMES machines. and PC@s play games too. and all these threads about magic the gathering they're games too.

theres a difference between a Flash game online .. and a discussion of Computer games , MMORPGS and Card games. Since everyone posting in this thread was more than happy for it to remain there, and everyone posting in that thread was in some small way a geek, who are you moving it for?
its just yet more evidence that DJ is an evil fascist with his own evil agenda of evilness. He'll be first up against the wall when the revolution comes let me tell you :)

[David Bailey]

Since everyone posting in this thread was more than happy for it to remain there, and everyone posting in that thread was in some small way a geek, who are you moving it for?
I'm just drunk with power. Mwa ha ha....


Sigh.. DJ doesn't understand geeks does he?
Hell, I don't understand anything.


It's not a game, it's a way of life. Therefore, it belongs in Geeks Corner.
Errr... OK then... that makes sense... :confused:

Honestly, you wouldn't want a thread about Tango to be moved to Beginners Corner, would you?
Honestly, if it mutated into a discussion of MJ beginner-relevant topics, then yes I would. Difficult to see how that could happen, but anything's possible :)

OK, seriously, look at the thread definitions:

Fun and Games A special area for games, jokes, quizzes, flash games, etc...
Compared to:

Geeks' Corner A place to hang out to solve all your computer, electronic, technical or telecommunication problems.
So, can you see where I'm going with this?

[David Bailey]

its just yet more evidence that DJ is an evil fascist with his own evil agenda of evilness. He'll be first up against the wall when the revolution comes let me tell you :)
Yeah? Well my copy of the Forum Glossary from 1,000 years in the future says:

Dreadful Scathe: an evil being, first up against wall when the revolution came

So there :na:

[Sparkles]

Please DJ, you can't move the WoW thread out of Geek's corner - otherwise my long sought-after status as a Geek will be null and void :sad: :tears:

... how will I sleep at night ... ? :what:

[David Bailey]

Please DJ, you can't move the WoW thread out of Geek's corner - otherwise my long sought-after status as a Geek will be null and void :sad: :tears:

... how will I sleep at night ... ? :what:

Weeell.... no-one could ever accuse me of being an unreasonable man. Not twice, anyway. :D

So, I could split the thread and put the "how do I play WoW" stuff in the Geeks Corner, and the "Playing WoW" ongoing discussion here?

[Beowulf]

(is ok sparkles.. I have a cunning plan..so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a cunning plan with a tail on !!"

about this software package we're all running.. I see the minimum hardware spec is as follows

Windows® System 2000/XP OS:

* Intel Pentium® III 800 MHz or AMD Athlon 800 MHz
* 512 MB or more of RAM
* 32 MB 3D graphics card with Hardware Transform and Lighting,such as NVIDIA® GeForce™ 2 class card or above
* DirectX® 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers
* 6.0 GB available HD space
* 4x CD-ROM drive
* A 56k or better Internet connection

Mac® OS X 10.3.9:

* 933 MHz or higher G4, or G5, or Intel processor
* 512 MB RAM or higher; DDR RAM recommended
* ATI or NVIDIA® video hardware with 32 MB VRAM or more
* 6.0 GB available HD space
* 4x CD-Rom drive
* 56k or better Internet connection

What are the rest of you running? how is your game play? I seemed to get good latency last night but is there a significant lag on the server? or is that one usually lag free?

What sort of plug-ins are available for this software package? I've looked at the plugin writers API and can't really make much head nor tail out of it yet but then I don't know the ins and outs of the package yet. And of course, there's no point in programming a plug in if one already exists.. reinventing the wheel etc.

I did get a message when downloading the patch that I was behind a firewall but it didn't seem to worry the installation too much. are there any particular ports I need to open up to allow the package to run ok? As I said I managed to run it last night, so obviously no problems as such yet.

Also I was looking at my old teamspeak account (used for Eve) for live voice chat over TCP while playing. Would this be easy to use while in WoW? or are their better/easier/more integrated systems available?

oh yeah, one last question

I created my account last night, played and everything then exited. However, when I go to the WOW site and look at account management it says

"Sorry, you entered an invalid username or password. Please try again."

now I KNOW the username and password. is there some delay in replicating the user details from the server to the website?

[David Bailey]

:rofl:

OK, OK. OK.

I've moved it back, heaven knows I wouldn't want to gain Eternal Geek Emnity or anything...

[Beowulf]

:rofl:

OK, OK. OK.

I've moved it back, heaven knows I wouldn't want to gain Eternal Geek Emnity or anything...

You know.. I always did like you :D :wink: :clap:

[David Bailey]

You know.. I always did like you :D :wink: :clap:
Yeah yeah yeah.

Brown-noser :na:

[Tessalicious]

(is ok sparkles.. I have a cunning plan..so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a cunning plan with a tail on !!"

about this software package we're all running.. I see the minimum hardware spec is as follows

Windows® System 2000/XP OS:

* Intel Pentium® III 800 MHz or AMD Athlon 800 MHz
* 512 MB or more of RAM
* 32 MB 3D graphics card with Hardware Transform and Lighting,such as NVIDIA® GeForce™ 2 class card or above
* DirectX® 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers
* 6.0 GB available HD space
* 4x CD-ROM drive
* A 56k or better Internet connection

Mac® OS X 10.3.9:

* 933 MHz or higher G4, or G5, or Intel processor
* 512 MB RAM or higher; DDR RAM recommended
* ATI or NVIDIA® video hardware with 32 MB VRAM or more
* 6.0 GB available HD space
* 4x CD-Rom drive
* 56k or better Internet connection

What are the rest of you running? how is your game play? I seemed to get good latency last night but is there a significant lag on the server? or is that one usually lag free?Nice one!

Lag isn't usually too bad, but sometimes it can be dreadful. Warriors can usually cope with that, as can hunters, but most other classes who actually have to do things to be able to fight ( :na: ) don't deal so well with it. I make it a general rule that once I've died once because of lag, I give up.
What sort of plug-ins are available for this software package? I've looked at the plugin writers API and can't really make much head nor tail out of it yet but then I don't know the ins and outs of the package yet. And of course, there's no point in programming a plug in if one already exists.. reinventing the wheel etc.There are some really nice, useful Add-ons - I'll look them up and post links to them tonight. For example, there are add-ons that give map coordinates, allow you to tailor your bar interface more, store info on the maps about where you gather herbs/ore, and tell you how much an item last sold for at the AH and sells for to vendors.
I did get a message when downloading the patch that I was behind a firewall but it didn't seem to worry the installation too much. are there any particular ports I need to open up to allow the package to run ok? As I said I managed to run it last night, so obviously no problems as such yet.There are some ports recommended to open if you have problems, but if you managed to install and download all patches in one evening then you don't have problems :na:
Also I was looking at my old teamspeak account (used for Eve) for live voice chat over TCP while playing. Would this be easy to use while in WoW? or are their better/easier/more integrated systems available?As I've mentioned up there somewhere, ESG and I use Skype, which works fine for multiway calls too. And you don't have to buy a server.
now I KNOW the username and password. is there some delay in replicating the user details from the server to the website?Can't help you there I'm afraid, dunno what that's all about.
So, I could split the thread and put the "how do I play WoW" stuff in the Geeks Corner, and the "Playing WoW" ongoing discussion here?Don't you dare split the thread - don't you think the playing is as geeky as the tech questions?

[Dreadful Scathe]

What are the rest of you running? how is your game play? I seemed to get good latency last night but is there a significant lag on the server? or is that one usually lag free?

The spec needed is very low, any delay you get is generally down to the server. That server was very laggy for about an hour one time i connected but its been very fast otherwise.


I did get a message when downloading the patch that I was behind a firewall but it didn't seem to worry the installation too much. are there any particular ports I need to open up to allow the package to run ok?

Its all on the Wow europe site FAQ.



Also I was looking at my old teamspeak account (used for Eve) for live voice chat over TCP while playing. Would this be easy to use while in WoW?

Dont see why not - either Teamspeak or Skype will do, whatever most people already have. Not sure its really necessary though - unless you
are really incapable of typing :)



now I KNOW the username and password. is there some delay in replicating the user details from the server to the website?

I think there is - i had the same problem.

[straycat]

I created my account last night, played and everything then exited. However, when I go to the WOW site and look at account management it says

"Sorry, you entered an invalid username or password. Please try again."

now I KNOW the username and password. is there some delay in replicating the user details from the server to the website?

Well - you're doing better than me. I still can't get past the 'Handshaking' stage when trying to fire up WoW. It's clearly talking to the server, as it manages to get past the authentication stage. Port forwarding is correctly set up on my router, so I know that's not the issue. A bit of googling reveals other people with the same issue, but no answers (there's a suggestion it's linked to the latest patch)

Tried to use Blizzard's tech support form, but ... it was a bit broken.

Any of you more technical folk got any ideas?

[Dreadful Scathe]

:rofl:

OK, OK. OK.

I've moved it back, heaven knows I wouldn't want to gain Eternal Geek Emnity or anything...
you were only making a fool of yourself. go on get the game, you know you want to :) you do HAVE a computer at home dont you ? :)

[TheTramp]

Well I have a character, and he's an orc and he's on lightsabre.. lampshade.. whatever.. and he was there just long enough to pop in and gut some boars.

Are you going to tell us your name then? Or did you already, and I missed it?

[Beowulf]

Are you going to tell us your name then? Or did you already, and I missed it?

I can't remember it :blush:

I'll post it tonight when I get home and log on.

was a guttural sort of orcish name.. Beowulf was taken.. apparently :rolleyes:

[Dreadful Scathe]

was a guttural sort of orcish name.

what "Lampert" ? :D

all our names are here - add us on your friends list by clicking on the "exclamation mark in bubble" icon :)

[Beowulf]

what "Lampert" ? :D

all our names are here - add us on your friends list by clicking on the "exclamation mark in bubble" icon :)

first thing when I get home .. will do. :)

[Sparkles]

After a quick e-mail to the guy who upgraded my puter for me I found out the spec is as follows:
Power supply unit: Akasa PaxPower 400 watt
Processor: Socket AM2 AMD Athlon 64 3800+ (2.4 GHz)
Memory: 1 GB of reasonably cheap PC6400 DDR2 SDRAM
Motherboard chipset: Nvidia nForce 4 Ultra
HDD: 7200 RPM, 160 GB, SATA 2.0 interface
Graphics card: LeadTek WinFast 7800GT, PCI express

It runs WoW really nicely :) - once it actually lets me play :rolleyes:
I haven't had any problems with lag (thought I don't know that I would realise if I had had those sorts of problems).

Please let us know what your Orc is called Beo, so we can add you to friends too :flower:

[Tessalicious]

Please let us know what your Orc is called Beo, so we can add you to friends too :flower:...and invite you to the guild, of course!

[Beowulf]

...and invite you to the guild, of course!

..of course,

Last night just before bed I clobbered a whole pile of boars, so I guess I just need to talk to everyone with a big yellow ! over their heads and do their quests to get up levels?

I'm in ..erm.. valley of the trials or something like that! it's so easy to get lost here. will look into one of those map coordinate plug ins later.

[killingtime]

Dont see why not - either Teamspeak or Skype will do, whatever most people already have. Not sure its really necessary though - unless you are really incapable of typing :)

I'd be pimping Google Talk at this stage since it is based of an open standard but they still haven't implemented n-way voice comms (or even MUC) so I'll shut up.

As for voice comms. No, they make everything way better. I play Civ IV with voice comms just because chatting to your friends at the same time makes it feel more LAN like. It makes all the difference.

[Mostlysane]

..of course,

I'm in ..erm.. valley of the trials or something like that! it's so easy to get lost here. will look into one of those map coordinate plug ins later.

if you want one mate, i can recommend titan panel, i've been using it for a couple of years now. The link is here.

World of Warcraft UI / Mods - The Unofficial World of Warcraft Mods site (http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1442)

there are a whole bunch of other addons that work with titan panel, do a search for titan on the website and you can see what's available

[TheTramp]

...and invite you to the guild, of course!

Done. His name is Ná.... something (no wonder he forgot it). And I've just brought him into the guild fold! :D

[Beowulf]

Ok.. I'm online and I've said hello


Are you going to tell us your name then? Or did you already, and I missed it?


I can't remember it :blush:

Yes, I am he with the unpronounceable, non-memorable name


TessaLicious: Toireasa (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Toireasa) : blood elf : rogue : 38 : skinning : leatherworking
ESG: : hunter : 41
Dreadful Scathe: Shirley (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shirley ) : Orc : Warrior : 12 : mining : blacksmithing
MostlySane: Thrull (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Thrull) : blood elf : warlock : 15 : mining : jewelcrafting
Sparkles: Sparklette (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparklette) : blood elf : priest : 14 : skinning : tailoring
Andystyle: Shem (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shem): Blood Elf: Mage : 5
Tramp: Nekiar (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Nekiar): Blood Elf: Rogue : 21 : mining : jewelcrafting
Tramp: Sparkling (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparkling): Blood Elf: Paladin : 14 : mining : engineering
Shodan:
StrayCat264:
Beowulf: Náshnarak (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Náshnarak): Orc : Warrior: 5: n/a : n/a

erm .. yeah.. That's Capital N, ALT-0225, s.. .. .. :rolleyes: :blush:

it seemed a good idea at the time ok?

now I'm off to read up on some Quest guides.. I have some amulet to get from some cave.. and I'll be darned if I know where !! :D

[Beowulf]

Ok you had best make that



Beowulf: Náshnarak (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Náshnarak): Orc : Warrior: 8: Mining : Blacksmithing


I was ..erm.. busy tonight ;)

[straycat]

Probably better take me off the list. I tried it for a while, and, to play it safe, I've deleted all traces of it from my hard drive. Fun while it lasted... but I don't think I'd want it as an addiction.

[Beowulf]

Probably better take me off the list. I tried it for a while, and, to play it safe, I've deleted all traces of it from my hard drive. Fun while it lasted... but I don't think I'd want it as an addiction.

Hi..my name's Beo and I do WoW.. not a lot, just recreationally y'know. *sniffs* when I first started it was just an occasional boar.. but now I'm needing 20 or 30 raptors at night.

.. I can quit any time I want to.. .. I just have to find the right spell components for the "rune of quitting" :na:

btw.. Level 14 now, and I think I'm changing my profession from Miner to baker.. (not that there's a huge difference ;) )

[Tessalicious]

Hi..my name's Beo and I do WoW.. not a lot, just recreationally y'know. *sniffs* when I first started it was just an occasional boar.. but now I'm needing 20 or 30 raptors at night.

.. I can quit any time I want to.. .. I just have to find the right spell components for the "rune of quitting" :na: Give in to the addiction - you know it feels good.

btw.. Level 14 now, and I think I'm changing my profession from Miner to baker.. (not that there's a huge difference ;) )You know you can do both, right?

[Beowulf]

I think I'm changing my profession from Miner to baker.. (not that there's a huge difference ;) )


You know you can do both, right?

Rock bun anyone? :wink:

[straycat]

.. I can quit any time I want to..

You're a better man than I. I realised that I had but the one chance to quit, and one only... so I had one of my rare moments of common sense and took it. And now I'm free!!!!!

Seriously though - if I had more leisure time, I'd almost certainly have kept going - I can see how much fun it is. Realistically though, I haven't enough time to do half the things I want to do, without throwing this into the mix.

[killingtime]

You're a better man than I. I realised that I had but the one chance to quit, and one only... so I had one of my rare moments of common sense and took it. And now I'm free!!!!!

This is why I didn't start in the first place. In case I don't get a rare moment of common sense. I love computer games and I'd love to play more of them for longer but I don't really have the time and MMOs are, IMHO, the most addictive of them all.

S
Realistically though, I haven't enough time to do half the things I want to do, without throwing this into the mix.

Yup, that's my argument too.

[ducasi]

Beowulf: Náshnarak (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Náshnarak): Orc : Warrior: 5: n/a : n/a

erm .. yeah.. That's Capital N, ALT-0225, s.. .. .. :rolleyes: :blush:

it seemed a good idea at the time ok?
Or on a Mac it'd be... shift N, option-e then a, s, ... Just a wee bit easier...

Sorry, but I'm allowed to make posts like this in Geek's Corner! :na:

[Ghost]

On a Mac it'd be <snip> easier...

:wink:

[Beowulf]

I love computer games <snip>and MMOs are, IMHO, the most addictive of them all

oh I'm not addicted.. .. the fact that I've written a custom application for my PDA to track my quests is neither here nor there :whistle:

Actually, I'm beginning to get bored with it too.

It lacks the depth of my other MMORPG EvE, I'm sorry but EvE outranks WoW by an order of magnitude IMHO.

I don't really see what benefits this dungeon hack game gets from being a MMO, sure you get to giggle at some bull headed guy break-dancing in the street but the gameplay is so "hack 'n' slash" it's really no different from a stand alone game.

How many boars do you want to kill today?

[TheTramp]

I don't really see what benefits this dungeon hack game gets from being a MMO, sure you get to giggle at some bull headed guy break-dancing in the street but the gameplay is so "hack 'n' slash" it's really no different from a stand alone game.

How many boars do you want to kill today?

Ah. It's more fun when you start to team. Not to mention, being able to tell other people on the game how many boars you've killed.

But, if you play mostly on your own, then yes, it's not really any different from a stand alone game. But how is that different to any MMORPG?

You need to co-ordinate with Shirley to get on at the same time! :na:

[killingtime]

I don't really see what benefits this dungeon hack game gets from being a MMO, sure you get to giggle at some bull headed guy break-dancing in the street but the gameplay is so "hack 'n' slash" it's really no different from a stand alone game.

I think there is that. Eve certainly appeals to me more than WoW but I posted on my blog why I'd be tempted to join that (http://gary-stewart.blogspot.com/2007/03/wittering-about-games.html) (my blog isn't humorous at all, not unless you are on some mind altering substance that makes everything seem funny). I've played hack 'n' slash online with things like Dungeon Siege which is equally soulless but worked alright for me a few friends.

[Beowulf]

not only that but eve is much prettier

Eve Game Play Screenshots (http://www.eve-online.com/screenshots/collection.asp?col=28112006&n=16)

Wow Game Play Screenshots (http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ScreenShot.aspx?ImageIndex=1&Set=0)

[robd]

Not to mention, being able to tell other people on the game how many boars you've killed.


In the context of this game shouldn't boars be spelt bores? :devil:

[straycat]

not only that but eve is much prettier


Mmmm. Verrrry pretty.

What exactly *is* Eve? Is it like an MMO version of Homeworld?
Homeworld & Homeworld Cataclysm both being pretty high on my list of All Time Favourite Games Ever.

[Beowulf]

Mmmm. Verrrry pretty.

Very !!

What exactly *is* Eve?

Is it like an MMO version of Homeworld?
Homeworld & Homeworld Cataclysm both being pretty high on my list of All Time Favourite Games Ever.

hmm Kind of.. and kind not-of

A bit like Homeworld, a bit like Elite , and nothing like them at the same time :)

read all about it here (http://www.eve-online.com/)

[Dreadful Scathe]

Mmmm. Verrrry pretty.

What exactly *is* Eve? Is it like an MMO version of Homeworld?
Homeworld & Homeworld Cataclysm both being pretty high on my list of All Time Favourite Games Ever.
Id say its more like an MMO Elite :) go where you want, do what you want, buy/sell what you want ... like Elite you can be a peacful trader, or a bounty hunter, or a pirate, or a miner :)

Homeworld was a poor command and conquer in space :)

[straycat]

Homeworld was a poor command and conquer in space :)

How dare you, Sir! :mad:

Right. Off to re-research that Siege Cannon tech. You'll be sorry for that one (now where did I leave that mothership?)

[straycat]

Homeworld was a poor command and conquer in space :)

OK - so I do know you were joking here - C&C was OK, but it's not as if it were something like Starcraft (which, like Homeworld is in a class of its own, even after all these years)

Shame Homeworld 2 was so dire though :tears:

[andystyle]

Try Supreme Commander. It's the new RTS doing the rounds at the moment, kind of a spiritual successor to Total Annihilation.

[Cruella]

In the context of this game shouldn't boars be spelt bores? :devil:

Aww, are we feeling a little neglected. :whistle: :rofl:

[Dreadful Scathe]

OK - so I do know you were joking here - C&C was OK, but it's not as if it were something like Starcraft (which, like Homeworld is in a class of its own, even after all these years)

Shame Homeworld 2 was so dire though :tears:
Homeworld was ok , i was really pointing out how good Eve/Elite are in comparison - total freedom in space. Homeworld is an RTS, and one that uses 2D thinking in a 3D environment (i always seemed to get attacked from the same direction). An RTS I like just now, not that i get any time to play it, is Company of Heroes :) very impressive. My favourite RTS is still the classic Dune 2 :)

[killingtime]

Try Supreme Commander. It's the new RTS doing the rounds at the moment, kind of a spiritual successor to Total Annihilation.

I loved Total Annihilation but I just couldn't get into Supreme Commander, maybe it's too epic a scale for me.


An RTS I like just now, not that i get any time to play it, is Company of Heroes :) very impressive.

I love it. I think it is a fab game (and comes with a copy of Dawn of War, another fab game). I love the fact the terrain can be destroyed... troops hiding in a building, you can just take the building down. I also love the fact the troops aren't afraid to express their opinions :wink:.

Anyway on a WoW note those that haven't taken up anyone's offer get another chance for a 14 day trial in this Sunday's The Times according to Kotaku (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/wow/brits-score-copy-of-wow-with-the-times-247306.php).

[Dreadful Scathe]

don't need to clumsy text here now our current Guild roster is here (http://armory.wow-europe.com/#guild-info.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=The+Licious&p=1)

Beo - I noticed you've barely used your skills - theyre worse than mine. And your armour sucks. And you dont have any projectile weaponry (always useful ;) ). where'd you get your axe though ? :)

tsk, everyones a critic :)

[Sparkles]

I can only make cloth armour, but if anyone needs anything made please let me know, similarly for bags (6 or 8 slot at the moment), and I'll post it to you :)

... oh, and bandages, lots of bandages should anyone need them :)

[Beowulf]

Beo - I noticed you've barely used your skills

True in game as it is true in life :)


And your armour sucks

That'll explain why I last 15 seconds in the Battlefield PvP then!


And you don't have any projectile weaponry (always useful ;) )

All the projectile things I saw were red as I couldn't use them.


where'd you get your axe though ? :)

Ah .. My Axe of bloody rampage.. Ah that would be telling (psst the Auction House!) it's claimed a few lives in the Battleground.. Cast blood rage (I think that's the one that gives you damage points but limits your healing) , charge, and then while they're stunned Rend (level 2 now I think) them and then hamstring them, and if you're still alive (and while clobbering them with the axe) cast that stomp thing that cuts their attacks by 10% ... then I leg it and let my team mates finish them off.

not a great tactic I know.. and combined with the rubbish armour explains my average 15 second life expectancy in Warsong Gulch :)


tsk, everyone's a critic :)

I'm not..

But I'll look into the armour and skills thing. (mining is so boring ..)

[Dreadful Scathe]

All the projectile things I saw were red as I couldn't use them.

Yes, you start with some racial skills, Orcs get axes :) but if you go to the weapons masters in Ogrimmar (ask any wandering guard where they are) they can train you in several things. "Thrown" is a good one to start with. i've got thrown and crossbow - but have yet to find anyone that sells a crossbow :)

[Sparkles]

Yes, you start with some racial skills, Orcs get axes :) but if you go to the weapons masters in Ogrimmar (ask any wandering guard where they are) they can train you in several things.

Does this work for blood elf priests too? I could do with some better weapons :whistle: :eek:

[Beowulf]

One thing that puzzles me.. I have cooking as a skill.. I hunt , boar say :rolleyes: , if I start a fire i can cook aforementioned boar into Boar burgers or something like that.

But I need "simple wood" as a reagant. (I have flint and tinder already) now as far as I can see I can't see any skill that allows you to get wood from the trees etc.. and the only mobile I see that drops wood is "Terry Palin" the Lumberjack (:rolleyes: again) who's in Alliance-ville-land!

wait.. you're telling me there's nowhere in the horde continent that supplies wood? simple plain garden variety fit for burning/cooking on wood?

so when I have the components for my recipes etc Ihave to travel to Ogrimmar , buy some wood, nip outside for a quick BBQ and cook all my steaks etc! how very odd.

I mean, woods not expensive, only 30 coppers or so.. but you would think it would be easy to find out there. if all the wood in the game is coming from one Lumberjack.. then he's a wealthy mobile :) Mind you I suppose the song does go "I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok... ... "

[Tessalicious]

Re. weapons: Absolutely - ask a guard in any city to point you to the weapon master and you'll find out what you can learn. Casting classes are more restricted with weapons than warriors though, so I'm not sure what you can learn.

It's also never a good idea to try to keep up with too many weapon skills - you end up having to devote a whole bag just to different weapons, and never being able to keep the weapon skills high enough to be doing a lot of damage (since your weapon skill depends on the amount of damage you have done with it, and vice versa).

And if anyone needs nice weapons or armor, let me know what types and level and I will keep an eye out.

Beo - rather than wasting your money buying wood and tinder, you should use existing campfires, stoves, and warm fires. These are in most inns (except some undead ones), many humanoid mob camps, and all cities somewhere. You just have to stand next to it, you don't have to have made it.

[Beowulf]

And if anyone needs nice weapons or armour, let me know what types and level and I will keep an eye out.

Big choppy-gory-bloody-mess-making-double-handed-axes-from-hell please :wink:


ps.

oh add "of the bear" to that too ta !! ;)

[Sparkles]

And if anyone needs nice weapons or armor, let me know what types and level and I will keep an eye out.

I'm in real need of a good Mace if you see one... mine's a bit ropey now.
Thanks Sweetie :flower:

[Dreadful Scathe]

i would also like a good axe, double or single - whatever you find :) and a good crossbow if you come across one :)

anyone want a low level hunting rifle - gun would be a fun skill :)

[TheTramp]

I'm in real need of a good Mace if you see one... mine's a bit ropey now.

What do you need a mace for? You'll never find one that does as good damage as a comparative level wand.....

Although, they can be useful to hold for the stat boost....

I need a good 2 handed sword, and a good one handed (off hand) weapon (sword or dagger) please! :D

[Sparkles]

What do you need a mace for? You'll never find one that does as good damage as a comparative level wand.....

That's true, but I can't cast spells whilst using my wand - and sometimes it's useful to fight and have my spells fully charged at the same time... for healing group-mates and such :rolleyes:.

Anyway, I'm a girl and I want one, isn't that enough?! *pout*

[TheTramp]

That's true, but I can't cast spells whilst using my wand - and sometimes it's useful to fight and have my spells fully charged at the same time... for healing group-mates and such :rolleyes:.

Anyway, I'm a girl and I want one, isn't that enough?! *pout*

Ummm. Not quite sure what you mean. You can't hit things with your mace while casting spells or vice versa either. If you want to stop using your wand, and cast a spell mid-fight, just click on the shoot button again - or move slightly - and you'll stop using the wand, and can cast a spell.

But anyhow, the fact that you want one, means that one will be proved! As well as a mechanical squirrel!! :D

[Beowulf]

I learnt bow last night, and thrown weapon. Took me a little while to figure out that there was a new skill "Shoot" in my skill list.. I kept throwing the arrows at my target :rolleyes:

I've also dumped the teeny weeny amount of points I had in mining and the none I had in blacksmithing for Skinning and Leather working, my secondary skills being Cooking and fishing.

I kill the beasts ,I loot their corpses, I skin the beasts.. I eat the beasts.. nothing wasted ;)

(Actually, after reading quides online I see that selling leather in it's various forms is actually quite profitable.. that and the various leathercraft items I can make for the AH)

I've also got a nice trade in Linen going. (Náshnarak's rag trade ;) )

[Sparkles]

But anyhow, the fact that you want one, means that one will be proved! As well as a mechanical squirrel!! :D

I hope you mean provided?!
... and as for the mechanical squirrel - that just made me laugh sooooo much! :rofl: - can't wait to see it :grin:



I've also got a nice trade in Linen going. (Náshnarak's rag trade ;) )

If you have any you want made into something send it to me and I'll tailor it and send it back :flower:

[Beowulf]

if you have any you want made into something send it to me and I'll tailor it and send it back :flower:

HAHA.. sorry I had the odd image of the Frankenstein's monster character from "Young Frankenstein" dressed in a Tux.

Náshnarak the Orc, tap-dancing into battle in a tailored Tux singing "Puuutinnnng ooooon daaaaa riiiiitz!!"

Makes a chance from dancing like MC Hammer I suppose.

(Stop.... Battle Axe time!!)

[Dreadful Scathe]

If you have any you want made into something send it to me and I'll tailor it and send it back :flower:

can you make bags yet ? they seem to be very hard/expensive things to get hold of :(

[Sparkles]

can you make bags yet ? they seem to be very hard/expensive things to get hold of :(

Yes, 6 slot (I have a couple of spare if you'd like them) and 8 slot (which I can make but you'd have to provide me with some wool).

I'm thinking of taking back my offer to tailor Beo's linen for him as all he can do is make fun... :sad: :na:

[Dreadful Scathe]

ive yet to find any sheep !

[Sparkles]

OK so my first dungeon last night and what a lot to take in!

I have to confess I was struggling and getting rather fustrated at some points. I wish I had known before hand that we were starting at 10pm, I thought we were starting at 8:30pm and would have had a nap earlier in the evening if I knew we would be up so late!

Trying to do everything at once was definitely a challenge, getting the pecking order right and knowing what to do and when is something that I guess comes with practice.
It was no-one's fault, but there was a lot of waiting around for everyone to be in the same place at the same time, but then I felt like when I needed some time to sort out my bags or re-charge my mana I was holding everyone up :blush:. I guess it's just difficult to get the balance right.

I really appreciated the help from the more experienced players :flower: and all the advice. There were a few other things I wish I had known before hand though so at least I have learnt some lessons for the future:

- go to the bank before starting a dungeon and drop off all your quest items and things you don't need (I nearly did this but wasn't sure if it was the right thing to do or not, and no-one had mentioned it so I didn't and suffered for it)
- don't bother to carry more food and drink than you personally need, it takes up too much room
- discard grey items so you have space for valuable things
- look after your own health and mana before you sort out other people's (having both healers die was a pain - though maybe it would be better next time if we both ressurected and then travelled back together, poor Trampy died again trying to get back to us :sad: )
- install skype (or similar) because when you're being attacked it's hard to concentrate on everything and type 'Help' at the same time!
- check exact details of where and when we're doing a dungeon so that I'm better prepared

Thank you to people who are posting my things back to me, and to everyone that helped out. It was fun, but I think will be more fun next time now I know more of what to expect.

:cheers:

[Dreadful Scathe]

my fault for the time thing - was delayed. Was good fun though. Thanks all for the bags. :)

Does everyone have skype? we could use it next time - however, i dont know if you can have a MIC ON button with Skype? (meaning it would always be on even when you're not talking)

[killingtime]

Does everyone have skype? we could use it next time - however, i dont know if you can have a MIC ON button with Skype? (meaning it would always be on even when you're not talking)

If you know what you are doing with network set up (or you have a network setup that doesn't care) setting up a Teamspeak server is pretty easy and since other people are going off your download (and your upload is multiplex; I think) then a 22kb/s per user on a channel for a 176kb/s download for you (and only if everyone is talking at the same time) so shouldn't mess up your game. We've done it with Civ IV but then it is a reflex game.

I think voice com is the only way to play games but then that's also because I find it increases the social aspect.

Why am I still subscribed to this thread. Am I just leading myself into temptation?

[killingtime]

(and your upload is multiplex; I think)

Multicast even but it doesn't. The server doesn't combine signals and sends to all on the server. So the calculation is (from their website)
DOWN: people_speaking_atm * selected_codec
UP: people_speaking_atm * (people_in_channel - 1) * selected_codec

Ouch! At 22kb/s then on an 8 person channel with 3 people talking at the same time we've got 3 * 7 * 22 = 462kb/s; given my upload (like most broadband) is at 384kb/s then I max out quickly. Of course you get the option of using smaller codecs and having multiple channels. Also three people talking at the same time is confusing as it is but during the heat of battle it's quite common.

The client obviously requires less. With most of it being download and, in this example, the max upload being 22kb/s.

[Beowulf]

DOWN: people_speaking_atm * selected_codec
UP: people_speaking_atm * (people_in_channel - 1) * selected_codec

Ouch! At 22kb/s then on an 8 person channel with 3 people talking at the same time we've got 3 * 7 * 22 = 462kb/s; given my upload (like most broadband) is at 384kb/s then I max out quickly. Of course you get the option of using smaller codecs and having multiple channels.

:really: :eek:

I vote Killingtime to be Dark princess of the Geeks !! oh wait.. wrong thread :wink:

I enjoyed the dungeon bash too. I went though a quest dungeon with Trampy yesterday.. and got all but one of the quest items.. when we both died.. and the dungeon respawned .. BLAST ! Sooo close.

Then I did my tourist thing.. taking zepplins and boats to places I've not been yet. Running around under city and I bumped into DS's character standing in a coffin.. as you do. My Undercity is a maze!! I actually died on the way in!! the lifts killed me.. rofl

[Dreadful Scathe]

:really: :eek:

I vote Killingtime to be Dark princess of the Geeks !! oh wait.. wrong thread :wink:

I enjoyed the dungeon bash too. I went though a quest dungeon with Trampy yesterday.. and got all but one of the quest items.. when we both died.. and the dungeon respawned .. BLAST ! Sooo close.

Then I did my tourist thing.. taking zepplins and boats to places I've not been yet. Running around under city and I bumped into DS's character standing in a coffin.. as you do. My Undercity is a maze!! I actually died on the way in!! the lifts killed me.. rofl
you got killed by the lifts ? u is teh n00b, u suXX0r :)

Undercity is a maze ? you've havent really looked then - its cirular and symetrical - the most non-maze like city ive been too (which isnt saying that much as ive not been to that many cities). The trade quarter is in the middle and if you go down you got canals and auctioneers then others quarters all the way round that lower level. I ventured into Auctions last night and sold lots of green items I found. cool :)

[Beowulf]

you got killed by the lifts ? u is teh n00b, u suXX0r :)

Yeah well in my defence (m'lud) I wasn't expecting the floor to suddenly fall away from beneath me! I was just being a tourist, doing my boat and Zeppelin trips, ran into undercity, ran down this corridor with the room at the end, next thing I know I'm falling, , I don't hit the ground per se, but somehow get stuck on the door at the bottom and next thing I know I'm in the graveyard having a 1-on-1 with the grim reaper !!

hehe..

Yeah I suXXor more than u !! But I've got a better axe and cooler dance moves .. :wink:

[Dreadful Scathe]

Ive got bigger tits :)

[straycat]

Ive got bigger tits :)

I told you not to put that high-grade radioactive waste on your bird-table, but would you listen? http://badgerandblade.com/vb/images/smilies/various2/a30.gif

And now you have bluetitzilla stomping and flapping its way round your neighbourhood, and munching its way through your neighbours. Hope you're feeling pleased with yourself....

[Dreadful Scathe]

/emote laugh

beo: how come your weapons and armour are so much better than mine now :(

[Beowulf]

/emote laugh

beo: how come your weapons and armour are so much better than mine now :(

Easy..

1. Skin.

2. Install Auctioneer

3. Go to AH

4. Sell skin

5. Skin more..

6. sell more..

7. sell any green items that are not usable (and grey items like Linen)

Repeat steps 5 to 7. (remembering to train skinning / leather working skills as you progress)

8. Get lots of Money ( I get about 50 silver per 20 light leather, am now selling medium leathers, and light hides/ cured hides) and I skin anything that moves in the badlands.

9. Use gold to buy nice armour and weapons from AH.

The thing that annoys me is once an item is soul bound it can't be Auctioned later.. It hurts, but you can get a pittance from a trader for old gear.

of course, dungeoning helps as well.. if you ever want to dungeon.. give me a shout, I'm very good at dying.. hoping that my blood rusts their swords etc ;)

oh .. and quest , quest , quest like there's no tomorrow

[killingtime]

/emote laugh

beo: how come your weapons and armour are so much better than mine now :(

1, Steal Pants
2, ...
3, Profit


Easy..

1. Skin.

2. Install Auctioneer

3. Go to AH

4. Sell skin

5. Skin more..

6. sell more..


And this is why MMORPG don't appeal to me (along with worrying that they will appeal and become terribly addictive). It sounds tedious; tedious I tell you. But then again I played some Gears of War recently which boiled down to:

1, Shoot People Who Are On The Other Team Until All Are Dead Or You Die
2, Restart Level
...
1, Shoot People Who Are On The Other Team Until All Are Dead Or You Die
2, Restart Level

So who am I to talk?

Still I just finished the main quest in Oblivion. That was a fab game.

[Tessalicious]

OK so my first dungeon last night and what a lot to take in!

I have to confess I was struggling and getting rather fustrated at some points. I wish I had known before hand that we were starting at 10pm, I thought we were starting at 8:30pm and would have had a nap earlier in the evening if I knew we would be up so late!You'd gone offline the night before, before I had a chance to let you know that we wouldn't be back for it til 10. I was going to text you but forgot - my bad :blush:

Trying to do everything at once was definitely a challenge, getting the pecking order right and knowing what to do and when is something that I guess comes with practice.
It was no-one's fault, but there was a lot of waiting around for everyone to be in the same place at the same time, but then I felt like when I needed some time to sort out my bags or re-charge my mana I was holding everyone up :blush:. I guess it's just difficult to get the balance right.Dungeons aren't easy, especially the first time, but the best thing is having a group who dungeon together regularly and get to know each others' styles, and how to keep each other alive. We'll get uber at this, I have no doubts :grin:
I really appreciated the help from the more experienced players :flower: and all the advice. There were a few other things I wish I had known before hand though so at least I have learnt some lessons for the future:

- go to the bank before starting a dungeon and drop off all your quest items and things you don't need (I nearly did this but wasn't sure if it was the right thing to do or not, and no-one had mentioned it so I didn't and suffered for it)
- don't bother to carry more food and drink than you personally need, it takes up too much room
- discard grey items so you have space for valuable things
- look after your own health and mana before you sort out other people's (having both healers die was a pain - though maybe it would be better next time if we both ressurected and then travelled back together, poor Trampy died again trying to get back to us :sad: )
- install skype (or similar) because when you're being attacked it's hard to concentrate on everything and type 'Help' at the same time!
- check exact details of where and when we're doing a dungeon so that I'm better preparedAll good plans - I'm sorry I didn't send round something to help you all be more prepared.

In a few levels I'll take you all to Blackfathom Deeps, but that would have to be at a weekend or starting early, cos it's massive. I'll also do all the checking up in advance to make sure that everyone knows where to go for quests etc. If I get really organised I can even circulate maps and stuff, if it would help anyone.
Thank you to people who are posting my things back to me, and to everyone that helped out. It was fun, but I think will be more fun next time now I know more of what to expect.

:cheers:It was fun having you along - grouping with friends is the whole point of WoW. Sorry if I got bossy :blush: but I wanted to minimise dying!
Does everyone have skype? we could use it next time - however, i dont know if you can have a MIC ON button with Skype? (meaning it would always be on even when you're not talking)Skype would be good - it makes it a lot easier. I'd get a Vent server if I thought it was worth it, but I can't really afford it. I think a few people still need mics and stuff - anyone who needs advice on setting this up is welcome to ask.
My Undercity is a maze!! I actually died on the way in!! the lifts killed me.. roflHehe - to be honest I've died in the lifts in Undercity, as has Alec - so it's not that much to be ashamed of.
And this is why MMORPG don't appeal to me (along with worrying that they will appeal and become terribly addictive). It sounds tedious; tedious I tell you. The point of an MMORPG is that you don't have to do that stuff - because someone will, and you can always earn money doing other stuff and then buy things you want a different way. It's so different from the FPS games because there are so many different paths to take, and so many ways to interact with people. It's almost like real-life, but with magic and full leather armor :waycool:

[straycat]

1, Steal Pants
2, ...
3, Profit


They have underwear gnomes in WoW now? Impressive...

[killingtime]

Skype would be good - it makes it a lot easier. I'd get a Vent server if I thought it was worth it, but I can't really afford it.

Well you can just host one yourself for private VoIP solutions (I use Teamspeak because it is what I'm use to but they are both free, well for the use you are proposing anyway... the only problem is bandwidth). Then again Skype is heavier with 3-16KB/s (or 24 - 128kbp/s) though I couldn't find details on how a multi-user chat works and it if sends packets to each user or sends it to a central service for distribution. Given the claim of 100 user conferences you'd expect the latter (so it might be better after all).



I think a few people still need mics and stuff - anyone who needs advice on setting this up is welcome to ask.

I've played a couple of games where one person has just listened to the banter due to not having a working mic. It's not ideal for tactics or anything (as they can't really acknowledge a request, other than by typing or doing it) but it can be alright.


It's so different from the FPS games because there are so many different paths to take, and so many ways to interact with people. It's almost like real-life, but with magic and full leather armor :waycool:

I know, but there is always an element of level grind and if you are level 6 and your friends are level 45 it's unlikely you can join them in the same dungeon etc. I mean the only reason I'm tempted to join is the social during gaming aspect and that's the bit that is hard to resist :really:.

[Beowulf]

there is always an element of level grind and if you are level 6 and your friends are level 45 it's unlikely you can join them in the same dungeon etc. I mean the only reason I'm tempted to join is the social during gaming aspect and that's the bit that is hard to resist :really:.


There is that.. but I "help out" by running ahead of the party, attracting all the uber bad guys with my impressive levels of threat, the Dying on them in a very spectacular manner..

I learnt my skills from the Judean People's Front crack suicide squad as portrayed in "The life of Brian"

that and the
"Attack the yellow one Pete ... ... ... NO!!!! THE YEL.. oh too late!"
syndrome !

oh and actually I've noticed another problem.. button clicking under stress.

I rush into battle and click the attack button again.. then wonder why I just put my weapon away.. AAARGH!!

Poor Trampy was pulling his hair out.. well, ahem.. you know what I mean :blush: :whistle:

[TheTramp]

There is that.. but I "help out" by running ahead of the party, attracting all the uber bad guys with my impressive levels of threat, the Dying on them in a very spectacular manner..

I learnt my skills from the Judean People's Front crack suicide squad as portrayed in "The life of Brian"

that and the
"Attack the yellow one Pete ... ... ... NO!!!! THE YEL.. oh too late!"
syndrome !

oh and actually I've noticed another problem.. button clicking under stress.

I rush into battle and click the attack button again.. then wonder why I just put my weapon away.. AAARGH!!

Poor Trampy was pulling his hair out.. well, ahem.. you know what I mean :blush: :whistle:

This is all true. Except for the last sentence!! :na:

(But he was doing a lot better by the end)

[Beowulf]

Ive got bigger tits :)

Hmm true.. but I'm a handsome chap (for and orc that is) and look so resplendent in my battle armour and Orange & Black Guild tabard (hmm now I wonder why THOSE colours where chosen :rolleyes:)

Náshnarak.. smile for the camera.. Smile.. no.. Sm.. oh ok , close enough

<click.. whiiiiiir>

[Sparkles]

Oooh, how'd you get that screen shot? My char always faces away from me :rolleyes:

[Dreadful Scathe]

use the left mouse button and drag :)

[Sparkles]

use the left mouse button and drag :)

Does that make you turn around your char so you can see it from the front? Or does that just capture what you see on the screen?

[Tessalicious]

Honestly Beo, I'd expect better of your picture - the lighting's awful, and couldn't you get him to make a nice expression? Nice musckles though :wink:

The left mouse button controls your camera, so if you click and drag it, it will change your camera angle so you can see your char in profile or from the front - as soon as you let go it defaults back to behind you though, so you need to take the screen shot while holding the camera in place.

I haven't put one of me up, cos everytime I try to make Toireasa stand still for a picture, she poses for a second and then starts yawning just as I get to being ready to press the right button :rolleyes:

[Beowulf]

Honestly Beo, I'd expect better of your picture - the lighting's awful, and couldn't you get him to make a nice expression? Nice musckles though :wink:

Unfortunately I lack the iconography proficiency skills to make the [ELEMENTAL FLASH BULB] to illuminate the scene.. I need to collect 4 octarine Salamander gizzards for the recipe which , apparently, can only be obtained from the Mobile Twoflower.. who I've yet to find. :rolleyes:

[TheTramp]

use the left mouse button and drag :)

Is that like by being in drag, they're more likely to turn so that they can get a good laugh at you?? :na:

[Beowulf]

I was doing a little programming last night and am making a "little" progress.

I've been fiddling around with an add-on that will allow me to export the Recipes/patterns etc my characters can produce and export that to a MySQL database for browsing over the web. The idea being that other members of the guild and/or other non-guild players can see what I produce, what materials they require and can contact me in game to either supply me with the materials to make them or send me the G.S & C to buy the materials and make the items.

I'm currently using an Add on called trade Export. but I'm not 100% satisfied with the output so am looking at the add on development kit with a view to writing one of my own.

And I'm now an Artisan Skinner, and have maxed out my current level of Leatherworking (150) and need to find someone to teach me Expert leatherworking. :wink:

[Tessalicious]

I'm impressed!

You need to go to Thunder Bluff to learn Expert Leatherworking. As I said to Trampy the other day - turn west at Camp Taurajo and follow the signs to the big city. For the trainer, ask a guard when you get there.

If you're planning on keeping the LW going til the top, I might not bother (I'm not patient enough for all the farming). In which case I'll be auctioning all my leather, but guildies get first dibbs obviously.

[Beowulf]

You need to go to Thunder Bluff to learn Expert Leatherworking

AH! I've been there already.. I was bored one evening and tried to see how many flight paths I could open up.

I can fly down there tonight from Camp Tijuana .. Tia-maria.. Tora tora tora! .. or whatever it's called (I can never remember :blush: )

I need to find new skinning grounds anyway. the beasts in the Barrens are mostly grey to me now (for skinning at least)

[TheTramp]

Cool beans. Nekiar needs some nice new armor! ;) And I need to work on the jewelcrafting :na:

And I made it to Thunder Bluff after a nice run from Ghostlands. Got the mace skill, worked mace up to max skill. And 2 minutes later, got a better 2H sword again! :rolleyes:

[Beowulf]

I was actually thinking of freewind post.. but I have an opened flight path to thunderbluff as well :)

I get vertigo when I wander around freewind post.. and when running around it's best to tread carefully.. first time I landed I ran over the "brow of a hill" to find the ground below my feet suddenly an awfully long way down :sick:

[Sparkles]

Tess, you said we needed a farmer in the guild, I'm assuming for mining and herb-collecting, but am I assuming correctly?

[Tessalicious]

Sure - but I've also started Haeli up as a farmer, so you can do anything you like hun :)

(I can't wait for her to be a big pvp twink, terrorising the local gnomes at lvl 19 :evil laugh:)

[Sparkles]

OK, time for a guild update - I'd like to start a new Character, but want to know where the gaps are in terms of professions before I do...

TessaLicious: Toireasa (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Toireasa) : blood elf : rogue : 43 : skinning : leatherworking
Tessalicious: Haeli (http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Haeli) : Orc : Shaman : 1 : bank char
ESG: : hunter : 52
Dreadful Scathe: Shirley (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shirley ) : Orc : Warrior : 17 : mining : blacksmithing
MostlySane: Thrull (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Thrull) : blood elf : warlock : 17 : mining : jewelcrafting
Sparkles: Sparklette (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparklette) : blood elf : priest : 21 : skinning : tailoring
Andystyle: Shem (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shem): Blood Elf: Mage : 5
Tramp: Nekiar (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Nekiar): Blood Elf: Rogue : 25 : mining : jewelcrafting
Tramp: Sparkling (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparkling): Blood Elf: Paladin : 21 : mining : engineering
Beowulf: Náshnarak (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Náshnarak): Orc : Warrior: 22: Skinning : n/a
Beowulf: Tassi (http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Tassi) : Tauren : Shaman : 7

Beo and Tess, please can you update your professions if you know them :flower:.
Also, I have not been able to update "Shem" because he's not yet part of the guild :sad:

:cheers:

[Beowulf]

Beowulf: Náshnarak (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Náshnarak): Orc : Warrior: 22: Skinning : leatherworking
Beowulf: Tassi (http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Tassi) : Tauren : Shaman : 7: Enchanter : Alchemist

Beo can you update your professions if you know them :flower:
:cheers:

No Problem..

I know Tassi doesn't gather anything.. but She's been chatting to some of the newer players in her area and has been setting up private deals with them for flowers,herbs etc, and she also disenchants any magical "junk" that Náshnarak sends her :)

Násh is Artisan Skinning and expert leatherworking now. He's currently getting his butt kicked up in Ashvale in Nightsong woods. He wasn't getting any more skinning skill increases where he was.. but now he's being routinely gored to death by stags and wolves :)

[Dreadful Scathe]

You don't really need to post all that Sparkles - this one link will do (http://armory.wow-europe.com/#guild-info.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=The+Licious&p=1) - and people can look through at their leisure.


I was dissapointed by your "yeah whatever" respons to my naked dancing last night, I was impressed by Náshnarak ...those ripling muscles :)

[Beowulf]

I was impressed by Náshnarak ...those ripling muscles :)

I did get a couple of odd whispers from random players.. usually along the lines of "PUT YOUR CLOTHES ON!!"

I had my loincloth to spare my blushes.. (question? if you're green do you still blush??)

[Tessalicious]

OK, time for a guild update - I'd like to start a new Character, but want to know where the gaps are in terms of professions before I do...
.snip char info...
:cheers:Haeli: Orc: Shaman: 7: Bank, Future twink, Herbalism, Mining
ESG: Hunter: 53: Herbalism, Alchemy

So basically, we're mostly covered in terms of professions somewhere along the way - so it's up to you to pick one you fancy.

BTW, in terms of classes, another damage spellcaster would always be useful (mage, warlock) and I'd guess that you might enjoy the mage class.

HTH xx

[Beowulf]

Haeli: Orc: Future twink

You might like these links then

Twink Armour (http://shadowpanther.net/twinkarmor.htm)

Twink Weapons (http://shadowpanther.net/twinkweapons.htm)

Not quite a Twink weapon .. this is my one [KILLMAIM] (http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=13016)
although it reeks of Twinkyness.

[Dreadful Scathe]

and you got that on the ah ?

[Beowulf]

and you got that on the ah ?

I certainly didn't get it from a quest !! Yup I bought it on the AH with all my money from the Leather business :) (although I didn't pay 20g for it!! :eek: was more like 12G :blush:) was averaging about 1.5 to 2g per hour .. until the bottom fell out of the market.

20 Light leather was going for 50 silver a pop, now it's more like 20 silver (at least last time I looked) 20 heavy leather is about the 1g 15s mark (again, last time I looked)

[Sparkles]

Tessalicious: Toireasa (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Toireasa) : blood elf : rogue : 43 : skinning : leatherworking
Tessalicious: Haeli (http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Haeli) : Orc : Shaman : 1 : bank char : Future Twink : Herbalism : Mining
ESG: : hunter : 53 : Herbalism : Alchemy
Dreadful Scathe: Shirley (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shirley ) : Orc : Warrior : 17 : mining : blacksmithing
MostlySane: Thrull (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Thrull) : blood elf : warlock : 17 : mining : jewelcrafting
Sparkles: Sparklette (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparklette) : blood elf : priest : 21 : skinning : tailoring
Andystyle: Shem (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shem): Blood Elf: Mage : 5
Tramp: Nekiar (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Nekiar): Blood Elf: Rogue : 25 : mining : jewelcrafting
Tramp: Sparkling (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparkling): Blood Elf: Paladin : 21 : mining : engineering
Beowulf: Náshnarak (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Náshnarak): Orc : Warrior: 22: Skinning : leatherworking
Beowulf: Tassi (http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Tassi) : Tauren : Shaman : 7 : Enchanter : Alchemist

Maybe we don't need the list, but I find it easier to look at "at-a-glance" than waiting forever for the armoury to load up on my computer, so I've updated it and put it in anyway.

Mage or Warlock were definitely on my radar as new chars - if you wanted a farmer I was going to go for a Mage, but if you want spells and dark magic damage in combat then I think a Warlock might be better :devil: :cool:

PS. can someone explain the whole 'Twink' thing to me again, please - I can't remember the deal with that and I don't really want to go back through this whole thread to find out. Thanks :)

[Beowulf]

PS. can someone explain the whole 'Twink' thing to me again, please Thanks :)

A twink is a player character that is disproportionately powerful for its level, possessing potent items and high-end enchants that are generally way beyond the means of other players at that level. Twink items are acquired through rare drops, drops off of bosses in instances, as rewards from very difficult to complete quests, as gifts, or from the Auction House. Twink items on the Auction House are usually very expensive. The enchantments twinks typically have on their equipment can be performed only by higher level characters at the top of the enchanting profession and are usually very expensive. Therefore, twinking usually requires significant assistance from high-level alts, friends, and / or guild members. However, there are examples of self-made twinks that generate the necessary gold from Auction House trading or other legitimate in-game methods. Twinks are mainly used in PVP fighting or in Battlegrounds.

Copied verbatim from the WoWWiki site :)

[Ghost]

YouTube - Guild Wars vs World of Warcraft (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcWXL8jpFGs)

So do y'all dance? :wink:

[Tiggerbabe]

YouTube - Guild Wars vs World of Warcraft (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcWXL8jpFGs)
:
Funny, :rofl:

[Dreadful Scathe]

YouTube - Guild Wars vs World of Warcraft (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcWXL8jpFGs)

So do y'all dance? :wink:
haha nice :) Guild Wars really shows up WoW in the graphics department but as Ive only played it for about an hour I cant really comment on how the gamelay compares to WoW. Can anyone give us a quick comparison ? Trampy ? Tess ?

[Tessalicious]

I like WoW much better, for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, the PvE world in Guild Wars felt really limited (probably just my preception at my level, but I found it hard to navigate the game beyond the main starting area and the first PvP areas). I'm not particularly into PvP - I like it as a diversion, as something different to do, not as my main game play - so this wasn't ideal for me.

Secondly, in that area, GW was much less pretty after the first 5 levels (the storyline event called 'the Searing' makes the landscape grey and ugly at a certain point. Call me superficial, but I like something nice to look at.

Thirdly, I found GW quite lonely, because you could only 'meet' other players in towns - outside of the towns, the world had no-one in it but you and your team. On the other hand, WoW has classic social gameplay in most parts of the world but group-only instances in the dungeons, which IMHO is the best of both worlds. But then, I like to be able to just decide to group up with someone who happens to be fighting the same mobs as me if it looks like it will make it easier for both of us, rather than having to make that decision 10 minutes in advance.

But, I'll agree, the character movement graphics are nicer in GW. Especially the dancing (although you still can't beat a naked gnome, even if you wanted to :wink: ).

[Sparkles]

I saw my first lvl 70 char at the weekend - awe inspiring :worthy:

carry on...

[Shodan]

I saw my first lvl 70 char at the weekend - awe inspiring :worthy:
I regularly hang out with level 70 characters. My sister's bloke is a level 70 mage and has been a member of a guild for mainly level 70 people for ages. I got invited into that guild via him, even though my character is a level 53.

Its fab fun power-levelling having some level 70 characters run me through a dungeon instance. :waycool::D

[straycat]

I regularly hang out with level 70 characters.
May I have your autograph? :wink:

[Shodan]

May I have your autograph? :wink:
OK :
"Look at you hacker..... a pathetic bag of meat and bone..... panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?

Love and kisses,

Shodan xx"

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/1812/bsshodan5sn.gif

[Dreadful Scathe]

anyone else taken part in the beta test of the new Lord of the Rings MMORPG : shadows of angmar ?
I had a go of the beta at the weekend and my view is ...

...its World of Warcraft with hobbits. The interface is almost COMPLETELY identical. The graphics are perhaps a little bit better but
its negligable, certainly not a patch on Guild Wars.

I was curious as it was available for download, but its nothing special. Far from it.

As for WoW - Ill be on tonight if anyone fancies a sortie...about 7pm.

[killingtime]

OK :
"Look at you hacker..... a pathetic bag of meat and bone..... panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?

Can I just ask...

Are you looking forward to Bioshock?

[straycat]

OK :
[I]"Look at you hacker..... a pathetic bag of meat and bone..... panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?


Already defeated you twice, so :na: (four times if you count replays)
Ta for the autograph tho.

Wonder if we'll ever get to play World of Citadel Station (or something like it)?

[Sparkles]

As for WoW - Ill be on tonight if anyone fancies a sortie...about 7pm.

Sure, I'll be there :na:

[NZ Monkey]

although you still can't beat a naked gnome, even if you wanted to :wink: .So you're into midgets and S&M Tessalicious? Does ESG know....?:whistle: :innocent:

NZ Monkey runs for cover

One of the hightlights of playing a tauren was the ability to use warstomp on gnomes in the battlefields. I don't know why but there's just something satisfying about squishing those little buggers :devil:

[Dreadful Scathe]

sale now on burning crusade add-on only £9.99 (http://play/Games/PC/4-/1011936/World_Of_Warcraft_The_Burning_Crusade/Product.html)

[Beowulf]

sale now on burning crusade add-on only £9.99 (http://play/Games/PC/4-/1011936/World_Of_Warcraft_The_Burning_Crusade/Product.html)

No No No.. must ... resist..

Anyway, isn't that only really needed if you want to progress up to level 70? I'm only 20 something so a LOOOOONG time before I need that one yet.

I'll have some catching up to do when i get back to Aberdeen, Lots of questing and grinding to get back up to the rest of the guilds level :)

[Shodan]

Are you looking forward to Bioshock?
Yes, even though I, Shodan, have been reported to not be in it. :tears:

[Shodan]

Already defeated you twice, so :na: (four times if you count replays)
Ta for the autograph tho.
I've also defeated myself more times than that as well (fab games).

No worries on the autograph, any true geek should have the fear of being chased by my SEC-1 and SEC-2. :rofl:

[Beowulf]

aargh!

Am having headaches trying to code a LUA Addon to WoW that allows me to export the list of my available leatherworking patterns to my out-of-game website :(

I have the PHP code written to load info from a MySQL db and link in pages from thottbot etc but it's looking like the interface to the trade skills dialogs has changed so I'll have to manually (ie. pen and paper) export them.

on a side note.. any leatherworker want a pattern for a [Heavy Leather Ball] (http://www.thottbot.com/i18662) ? I have one going spare :whistle:

I made a batch , gave some to guild members and threw the rest to noobs in/around "the den" south of Oggrimmar :)

do with them as you wish

[Tessalicious]

aargh!

Am having headaches trying to code a LUA Addon to WoW that allows me to export the list of my available leatherworking patterns to my out-of-game website :(

I have the PHP code written to load info from a MySQL db and link in pages from thottbot etc but it's looking like the interface to the trade skills dialogs has changed so I'll have to manually (ie. pen and paper) export them.whoosh, over the head...
on a side note.. any leatherworker want a pattern for a [Heavy Leather Ball] (http://www.thottbot.com/i18662) ? I have one going spare :whistle:

I made a batch , gave some to guild members and threw the rest to noobs in/around "the den" south of Oggrimmar :)

do with them as you wishOoooh purddy, I'll buy your pattern if it's still going spare. That sounds like fun.

[Dreadful Scathe]

aargh!

Am having headaches trying to code a LUA Addon to WoW that allows me to export the list of my available leatherworking patterns to my out-of-game website :(

I have the PHP code written to load info from a MySQL db and link in pages from thottbot etc but it's looking like the interface to the trade skills dialogs has changed so I'll have to manually (ie. pen and paper) export them.

on a side note.. any leatherworker want a pattern for a [Heavy Leather Ball] (http://www.thottbot.com/i18662) ? I have one going spare :whistle:

I made a batch , gave some to guild members and threw the rest to noobs in/around "the den" south of Oggrimmar :)

do with them as you wish
i threw it to one player for a bit , then threw it at a passing player who just ran off with it. :) We cried on each others shoulders for a bit.

[killingtime]

i threw it to one player for a bit , then threw it at a passing player who just ran off with it. :) We cried on each others shoulders for a bit.

Could you use it as a way to stop people looting? 20 of you having one each and all throwing them at the same player at the same time so their inventory is just full of balls?

[Beowulf]

D'oh !!

hehe.. I'll easily make you another one.. heck I'll easily make you 10 if you're needing !!

I "wasted" about 30 heavy leather making these and thowing them to noobs down by the Orc starting area. Hehe.. the air was flying with balls at one point, must have been about 7 balls in the air at once.. It was like watching Shaolin Soccer (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0286112/) all over again :)

Apparently (according to thottbot and my Auctioneer plugin) they sell for about 1g each!! :eek: I was feeling benevolent and bought some leather to add to what I already had (wasn't until i looked at the auction goods in my mailbox I realised I'd bought it from ESG's char hehe) made a batch.

Some of the YELLS and SAYS well quite funny..

"Hey! I've found a ball in my rucksack!" , "Argh! someone's attacking me something big just hit me" etc hehehe

me and 2 other guys played ball for a bit... very clever that ball, it flies round corners too..

[Sparkles]

I realised I'd bought it from ESG's char hehe

I bought some mageweave cloth from him last night at the AH - he and Tess and Trampy are very kind to us noobs, giving materials when we need them - there's even a shopping list on guild message of the day (so if you need something Beo let Tess know and she'll stick it on there for you) but sometimes it's nice to pay your way and not feel like such a burden :flower:

[Dreadful Scathe]

Could you use it as a way to stop people looting? 20 of you having one each and all throwing them at the same player at the same time so their inventory is just full of balls?
actually yes it would work like that - and would be hilarious.

would also be hilarious for you to attack n00bs with them :)

[Beowulf]

would also be hilarious for you to attack n00bs with them :)

It was funny.. poor n00bs running for cover while the big nasty orc threw leather balls at them hehe

What I wish though that it was possible to occasionally PvP my own side!

I was in the barrens skinning stormsnouts and this $%£%! of a troll kept spamming me with the "$%£%! has requested a group, Accept Decline" message not only that every time I killed something he'd start skinning it (or at least he'd try to)

a few /No and /Rude emotes were used but he took no heed.

I moved to the stonetalon mountains after that !!

[Beowulf]

at last found an export plugin that works !!

Náshnaraks Leather emporium is now OPEN !!

Recipe list for player Náshnarak on Lightbringer
Created on 05/01/07 23:33:40
61 Leatherworking recipe(s) scanned

--- Consumable ---

Heavy Armor Kit
Requires Level 20
Use: Permanently increase the armor value of an item worn on the chest, legs, hands or feet by 24. Only usable on items level 15 and above.
5 * Heavy Leather
1 * Fine Thread

Medium Armor Kit
Requires Level 5
Use: Permanently increase the armor value of an item worn on the chest, legs, hands or feet by 16.
4 * Medium Leather
1 * Coarse Thread

Light Armor Kit
Use: Permanently increase the armor value of an item worn on the chest, legs, hands or feet by 8.
1 * Light Leather

Heavy Leather Ball
Unique (10)
Use: Throw the ball to a friendly player. If they have free room in their pack they will catch it!
2 * Heavy Leather
1 * Fine Thread

--- Bag ---

Kodo Hide Bag
6 Slot Bag
3 * Thin Kodo Leather
4 * Light Leather
1 * Coarse Thread

--- Cloth ---

Hillman's Cloak
Back
20 Armor
Requires Level 25
5 * Heavy Leather
2 * Fine Thread

Dark Leather Cloak
Back
17 Armor
Requires Level 17
8 * Medium Leather
1 * Fine Thread
1 * Gray Dye

Fine Leather Cloak
Binds when equipped
Back
14 Armor
+2 Stamina
Requires Level 10
10 * Light Leather
2 * Fine Thread

Embossed Leather Cloak
Back
12 Armor
Requires Level 8
5 * Light Leather
2 * Coarse Thread

Handstitched Leather Cloak
Back
8 Armor
Requires Level 4
2 * Light Leather
1 * Coarse Thread

--- Leather ---

Guardian Armor
Binds when equipped
Chest, Leather
102 Armor
+10 Intellect
+9 Spirit
Requires Level 30
2 * Cured Heavy Hide
12 * Heavy Leather
1 * Shadow Oil
2 * Fine Thread

Barbaric Leggings
Binds when equipped
Legs, Leather
87 Armor
+7 Agility
+7 Stamina
+7 Spirit
Requires Level 29
10 * Heavy Leather
2 * Fine Thread
1 * Moss Agate

Dusky Leather Leggings
Binds when equipped
Legs, Leather
86 Armor
+13 Agility
Requires Level 28
10 * Heavy Leather
1 * Black Dye
2 * Fine Thread

Barbaric Bracers
Binds when equipped
Wrist, Leather
47 Armor
+4 Agility
+6 Stamina
+4 Spirit
Requires Level 27
8 * Heavy Leather
2 * Cured Heavy Hide
4 * Small Lustrous Pearl
1 * Raptor Hide
4 * Large Fang

Green Leather Belt
Binds when equipped
Waist, Leather
54 Armor
+6 Agility
+6 Spirit
Requires Level 27
1 * Cured Heavy Hide
5 * Heavy Leather
1 * Fine Thread
1 * Green Dye
1 * Iron Buckle

Guardian Pants
Binds when equipped
Legs, Leather
85 Armor
+8 Intellect
+8 Spirit
Requires Level 27
12 * Heavy Leather
2 * Bolt of Silk Cloth
2 * Fine Thread

Green Leather Armor
Binds when equipped
Chest, Leather
95 Armor
+8 Agility
+8 Spirit
Requires Level 26
9 * Heavy Leather
2 * Green Dye
4 * Fine Thread

Barbaric Gloves
Binds when equipped
Hands, Leather
58 Armor
+4 Agility
+5 Stamina
+4 Spirit
Requires Level 25
6 * Heavy Leather
2 * Large Fang
1 * Fine Thread

Hillman's Leather Gloves
Binds when equipped
Hands, Leather
57 Armor
+6 Stamina
+5 Spirit
Requires Level 24
14 * Medium Leather
4 * Fine Thread

Toughened Leather Gloves
Binds when equipped
Hands, Leather
61 Armor
+6 Agility
+3 Stamina
+6 Spirit
Requires Level 22
4 * Medium Leather
2 * Cured Medium Hide
2 * Elixir of Defense
2 * Spider's Silk
2 * Fine Thread

Dark Leather Gloves
Binds when equipped
Hands, Leather
54 Armor
Requires Level 21
Equip: Increases your lockpicking skill slightly.
1 * Fine Leather Gloves
1 * Cured Medium Hide
1 * Fine Thread
1 * Gray Dye

Hillman's Shoulders
Binds when equipped
Shoulder, Leather
65 Armor
+5 Stamina
+4 Spirit
Requires Level 21
1 * Cured Medium Hide
4 * Medium Leather
1 * Fine Thread

Dark Leather Belt
Binds when equipped
Waist, Leather
48 Armor
+4 Agility
+4 Stamina
Requires Level 20
1 * Fine Leather Belt
1 * Cured Medium Hide
2 * Fine Thread
1 * Gray Dye

Fletcher's Gloves
Binds when equipped
Hands, Leather
53 Armor
Requires Level 20
Equip: Increases your ranged critical strike rating by 14.
Equip: Decreases your chance to parry an attack by 1%.
8 * Medium Leather
4 * Long Tail Feather
2 * Fine Thread

Nimble Leather Gloves
Binds when equipped
Hands, Leather
52 Armor
+4 Agility
+4 Spirit
Requires Level 19
1 * Elixir of Minor Agility
6 * Medium Leather
1 * Fine Thread

Toughened Leather Armor
Chest, Leather
80 Armor
Requires Level 19
10 * Medium Leather
2 * Cured Light Hide
2 * Fine Thread

Dark Leather Pants
Binds when equipped
Legs, Leather
72 Armor
+8 Agility
Requires Level 18
12 * Medium Leather
1 * Gray Dye
1 * Fine Thread

Deviate Scale Belt
Binds when equipped
Waist, Leather
51 Armor
+5 Agility
+6 Stamina
+3 Spirit
Requires Level 18
6 * Perfect Deviate Scale
4 * Deviate Scale
2 * Fine Thread

Fine Leather Pants
Binds when equipped
Legs, Leather
69 Armor
+5 Intellect
+4 Spirit
Requires Level 16
8 * Medium Leather
1 * Bolt of Woolen Cloth
1 * Fine Thread

Dark Leather Boots
Feet, Leather
51 Armor
Requires Level 15
4 * Medium Leather
2 * Fine Thread
1 * Gray Dye

Dark Leather Tunic
Binds when equipped
Chest, Leather
78 Armor
+6 Agility
Requires Level 15
6 * Medium Leather
1 * Fine Thread
1 * Gray Dye

Hillman's Leather Vest
Binds when equipped
Chest, Leather
78 Armor
+4 Stamina
+4 Spirit
Requires Level 15
1 * Fine Leather Tunic
2 * Cured Light Hide
2 * Coarse Thread

Light Leather Pants
Binds when equipped
Legs, Leather
66 Armor
+5 Agility
+3 Spirit
Requires Level 14
10 * Light Leather
1 * Cured Light Hide
1 * Fine Thread

Murloc Scale Breastplate
Binds when equipped
Chest, Leather
76 Armor
+5 Strength
+3 Agility
Requires Level 14
12 * Slimy Murloc Scale
1 * Cured Light Hide
8 * Light Leather
1 * Fine Thread

Fine Leather Boots
Feet, Leather
49 Armor
Requires Level 13
7 * Light Leather
2 * Coarse Thread

Murloc Scale Belt
Binds when equipped
Waist, Leather
42 Armor
+2 Strength
+3 Agility
Requires Level 13
8 * Slimy Murloc Scale
6 * Light Leather
1 * Fine Thread

Fine Leather Tunic
Binds when equipped
Chest, Leather
73 Armor
+4 Agility
+3 Stamina
Requires Level 12
3 * Cured Light Hide
6 * Light Leather
4 * Coarse Thread

Fine Leather Belt
Waist, Leather
38 Armor
Requires Level 11
6 * Light Leather
2 * Coarse Thread

Embossed Leather Boots
Binds when equipped
Feet, Leather
48 Armor
+2 Stamina
+2 Spirit
Requires Level 10
8 * Light Leather
5 * Coarse Thread

Embossed Leather Pants
Binds when equipped
Legs, Leather
61 Armor
+2 Stamina
+3 Spirit
Requires Level 10
1 * Cured Light Hide
6 * Light Leather
2 * Coarse Thread

Fine Leather Gloves
Binds when equipped
Hands, Leather
43 Armor
+2 Intellect
+2 Spirit
Requires Level 10
1 * Cured Light Hide
4 * Light Leather
2 * Coarse Thread

Light Leather Bracers
Wrist, Leather
28 Armor
Requires Level 9
6 * Light Leather
4 * Coarse Thread

Embossed Leather Gloves
Hands, Leather
39 Armor
Requires Level 8
3 * Light Leather
2 * Coarse Thread

White Leather Jerkin
Chest, Leather
62 Armor
Requires Level 8
8 * Light Leather
2 * Coarse Thread
1 * Bleach

Embossed Leather Vest
Binds when equipped
Chest, Leather
62 Armor
+2 Stamina
Requires Level 7
8 * Light Leather
4 * Coarse Thread

Rugged Leather Pants
Binds when equipped
Legs, Leather
51 Armor
+1 Stamina
Requires Level 6
5 * Light Leather
5 * Coarse Thread

Handstitched Leather Belt
Waist, Leather
29 Armor
Requires Level 5
6 * Light Leather
1 * Coarse Thread

Handstitched Leather Pants
Legs, Leather
46 Armor
Requires Level 5
4 * Light Leather
1 * Coarse Thread

Handstitched Leather Bracers
Wrist, Leather
21 Armor
Requires Level 4
2 * Light Leather
3 * Coarse Thread

Handstitched Leather Boots
Feet, Leather
31 Armor
Requires Level 3
2 * Light Leather
1 * Coarse Thread

Handstitched Leather Vest
Chest, Leather
45 Armor
Requires Level 3
3 * Light Leather
1 * Coarse Thread

--- Trade Goods ---

Cured Heavy Hide
1 * Heavy Hide
3 * Salt

Heavy Leather
5 * Medium Leather

Cured Medium Hide
1 * Medium Hide
1 * Salt

Medium Leather
4 * Light Leather

Cured Light Hide
1 * Light Hide
1 * Salt

Light Leather
3 * Ruined Leather Scraps

--- Ammo Pouch ---

Heavy Leather Ammo Pouch
14 Slot Ammo Pouch
Requires Level 30
Equip: Increases ranged attack speed by 12%.
8 * Heavy Leather
2 * Fine Thread

Small Leather Ammo Pouch
8 Slot Ammo Pouch
Equip: Increases ranged attack speed by 10%.
3 * Light Leather
4 * Coarse Thread

--- Quiver ---

Heavy Quiver
14 Slot Quiver
Requires Level 30
Equip: Increases ranged attack speed by 12%.
8 * Heavy Leather
2 * Fine Thread

Light Leather Quiver
8 Slot Quiver
Equip: Increases ranged attack speed by 10%.
4 * Light Leather
2 * Coarse Thread


LS3D Craft Info V1.33, Copyright 2005-2007 Lightstorm3D, LS3D WoW Addons (http://www.lightstorm3d.com/download/wow)

[Sparkles]

think I might set one of these up for my tailoring :nice:

Can someone who is "in the know" post up details of Dungeons - eg what level(ish) the mobs are in them, where they are and so on?

I keep getting quests for dungeons at the moment but don't know when I should be attempting to complete them... I dumped my other Wailing Caverns quest on Sparklette last night because it was grey and just taking up quest log space :sad:.
Thank you :flower:

[TheTramp]

Ummm. Those details are in the book Sarah. There's a section on dungeons and raids....

[Dreadful Scathe]

Can someone who is "in the know" post up details of Dungeons - eg what level(ish) the mobs are in them, where they are and so on?

have a look at this - nearly all instances are marked

[Beowulf]

have a look at this - nearly all instances are marked

I have those maps on my IPAQ, and consult them in game when I'm flying around. Nash became a tourist for a bit and tried to see how many flight paths he could collect.

Got a fair few, but some areas you can't run through as lvl 25.. even if you stick to the roads.

[Sparkles]

I have those maps on my IPAQ {snip}

Sometimes it's all too clear to me that I'm still not geeky enough for this game!! :what: :sad: :flower:

[Beowulf]

Sometimes it's all too clear to me that I'm still not geeky enough for this game!! :what: :sad: :flower:

:blush:

hehe.. well, I won't tell you about the PHP code I'm writing to take the above data as input on a webform, allow me to upload Auctioneer export data and then cross reference the material costs against that in a MySQL database and link it all through Thottbot to have a Guild shop webpage with suggested retail prices / material prices for each members Trade skills :whistle;

No.. I won't tell you that.. you'd think me terminally geeky ! :wink:




(I'll get my anorak)

[TheTramp]

(I'll get my anorak)

Here it is. I've ordered you a taxi too.... :flower:











(Oh, and where were you last night then??)

[Tessalicious]

really useful mapsThose maps are really useful - I use them to figure out where I could be playing that I haven't specifically been sent when I'm bored of the area I've been questing in, and to work out how to get places, among other things. Print them, if you can (on someone else's colour printer preferably :whistle: ).

The book you've got, Sarah, has loads of useful info in it, but it may be a bit difficult to navigate unless you know what you're looking for, so I'd suggest using it in conjunction with those maps and Allazhazam (http://wow.allakhazam.com/)/Thottbot (http://www.thottbot.com/) for the odd specific question.

On the other hand, I like being asked questions, it makes me feel needed and intelligent (god knows, very little can make me feel intelligent these days).

[Beowulf]

(Oh, and where were you last night then??)

Ragefire Chasm ..with Sparkles and Tessa !!! :na:

I was far too late to go to the beginner class, and I wasn't planning on doing the intermediate class, so I didn't go.

[Dreadful Scathe]

I like being asked questions,


ok then. How do you fight ?

tips n stuff I mean. I've found the biggest issue when theres lots of mobs is tragetting and hitting - I always use the keyboard now. I use F after targeting a friend to fight what theyre fighting and TAB to pick next target. I think thats about it though.



hey - whats Trampy talking about ...real life...in a WoW thread ? for shame :)

[Beowulf]

ok then. How do you fight ?

:yeah:

I have this ongoing problem.. I select the target and rush in to battle.. then hit my attack icon again.. which of course, puts my weapon away! Usually my totems keep me covered until I get my weapons out again.

Of course, I was killed by lag last night. we were fighting some Searing Blade cultists and I was getting low on heath. So I clicked on my healing icon.. only I was so laggy I didn't know if it had fired or not.. answer was "Not" Screen froze with me at about 1/5 health, screen unfroze with it asking me if I wanted to release my spirit now?

I'm getting better in PvP but not much.. I now last 6 seconds and not just 5 !! (Tassi doesn't do PvP just yet)

[Tessalicious]

I'll come back and give some advice later - if I don't get on with some work I'll collapse under the weight of uncompleted tasks!

[Beowulf]

I'm getting better in PvP but not much.. I now last 6 seconds and not just 5 !! (Tassi doesn't do PvP just yet)


Actually was thinking.. I wish they would make disenchant an offensive spell.. That would sort out the twinks in battlegrounds !!

"AHA I have my +600 armour of utter impenetrability , My Gauntlets of infinite health and my Axe of Planet cleaving! I'm invic...

<ZaaaaaaP>

... ible? eeek!!!"

As he runs naked into the bushes and you collect all the uber mats from his magical gear :) :yum:

[Dreadful Scathe]

I have this ongoing problem.. I select the target and rush in to battle.. then hit my attack icon again.. which of course, puts my weapon away! Usually my totems keep me covered until I get my weapons out again.

I've never had that problem. Being an FPS player, I'm used to attacking with the mouse - so whilst I press a button to charge, I attack targets by right clicking. (in the beginning I right clicked for every hit :) ).....Or at least I did, I'm getting out of that habit now and using the keyboard, as its far better to TAB and attack rather than vainly try and click on a monster next to another monster you don't want to attack (as its got full health) next to 3 party members you cannot attack. e.g. CLICK BY ACCIDENT OF TEAM MATE. HEROIC STRIKE. "You cant attack that". "D'oh"

[Sparkles]

My chars are spell casters so I don't have that problem, for me it's all about getting my spells in the right order:
Protection spell (for me, as cloth armour affords little protection) first
Biggest damage spell swiftly followed by
Curses and DOT spells as enemy rushes towards you
Then any other damage spells I have enough mana for and weapon attacks until the mob/mobs is/are dead.
It usually works well enough :).

Of course priorities change in a group scenario, then it's mostly about trying to keep everyone alive, and only using spells to pull if no-one else has pulling tactics (sorry about last night Tess and Beo, I got a bit confused at one point).

I haven't done any PvP yet, I'm too much of a whimp :blush:.

Ooh, just thought, I also have two lines of spells open bottom left of the screen, so I don't have to keep swapping lines - go to interface options and click one of the boxes in there. Makes life a bit easier :).

[Ghost]

Of course, I was killed by lag last night. we were fighting some Searing Blade cultists and I was getting low on heath.
Don't get low on health :wink: Do the risk assessment thing - what's the worst lag, how fast does your healing work, how much damage are you likely to take in that time, how much does it heal of your total, etc. I'd probably try and stay above 50% though.

There's also the time honoured group strategy of a healer hiding behind you so you can fully focus on carnage while they keep you alive.

[Sparkles]

There's also the time honoured group strategy of a healer hiding behind you so you can fully focus on carnage while they keep you alive.

Perfect - apart from the fact that last night Beo WAS the healer... :what:

[Ghost]

Perfect - apart from the fact that last night Beo WAS the healer... :what:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Ok so who was bodyguarding him?

Edit - ok if you're the healer, don't let your health drop below 80% and preferably keep it at 100%. This changes near the end of the fight when it's more useful to keep the fighters going, but up till that point you need to be "off-limits" (unless you're going the healing/tank route) as they are probably going to be in so much trouble without you.

[Tessalicious]

Ok, I can't resist any longer. Work is overrated.

DS, try pressing 'V' which causes health bars to appear over all enemies - I find this really helps me to know which mob would be most useful for me to hit, and gives me something to click on for the attack that I know isn't a player (players show in blue, mobs in red or yellow).

Beo, stop yourself from pressing '1' for attack by pressing a different button for an ability (spell, special attack, whatever). Alternatively, try keeping on hand on the mouse and the other hand just for moving yourself around (preferably on the arrow keys, they're further away from the '1' key than WAS&D).

General advice - you may have worked this out anyway, but I might as well mention it - always work out which are your best attacks for different kinds of mobs. For example, on my rogue I can obliterate a spellcaster without taking a single point of damage because they spend every second of the fight stunned or silenced (so they can't cast any nasty mean spells at me). Beasts and people get bleed and movement slowing attacks, while elementals and giants get armor reducing attacks and the odd stun too. Keep an eye out for when a mob resists spells of a certain type, and try to use something different (elementals and casters often have high specific magic resistance, so use a different spell tree).

I loe the offensive disenchant idea, but only if it's temporary (only lasts until you die, or at most until the bg is over). Otherwise stuff would be a waste of money, and us crafters would go out of business very quickly.
Ok so who was bodyguarding him?Uh, that would have been me, if he'd bloody stayed still! :wink:

[TheTramp]

Beo, stop yourself from pressing '1' for attack by pressing a different button for an ability (spell, special attack, whatever). Alternatively, try keeping on hand on the mouse and the other hand just for moving yourself around (preferably on the arrow keys, they're further away from the '1' key than WAS&D).

Stop yourself from pressing 1 or whatever other icon you've got, by removing it from your bar. I don't have a basic attack on there at all anymore. If I want to do that, then right mouse button works fine. But mostly, I want to start off attacks with a special of some sort. So, it's just wasting a good icon space.

Of course, then you have to stop yourself right-clicking. Maybe chop off your middle finger?

[Ghost]

Uh, that would have been me, if he'd bloody stayed still! :wink:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
It's always nice to tell your bodyguard where you're going :wink:

Any chance of some of your adventures being written up in a bardic style? (So willing to give rep for this :flower: )

[Beowulf]

Nash's technique is to charge (Stuns them for a second) and immediately hit REND (they bleed for X damage over Y seconds) Depending on the creature I'll throw in a number of Cleave armours (I can stack up to 5 of those)

if I get swamped I stomp (whatever the orc equivalent of stomp is) and if I tab through them all rending each of them at least once (not a great idea perhaps but I like to know they're all taking damage over time) If I'm getting overwhelmed I use my intimidating shout, which stuns my main target and scares the others away. get them down to 1/5th health then I execute (unless my weapon damage can take them down in one more hit.. which it usually can)

A quick glug of health potion and i'm ready for the rest.

Usually works for me. Nash is getting to the stage now where he rarely dies. Unless he's being stupid.. and lets face it.. he's an orc warrior.

"No don't charge into that group of 8 mobs... oh too late!"

[Ghost]

Just out of curiousity how close is the group to the "model" 50% warriors, 33% healers, 17% other specialists?

[Tessalicious]

Generally I don't hear it divided like that. There are up to 5 members, so 17% of anything would be tricky. Usually you need 1 tank (taking damage), 1 healer, 1 dps (mage, rogue) minimum, plus 1 multiclass (shaman, warlock, hunter, druid), plus 1 any of the above makes a great party.

[Ghost]

Generally I don't hear it divided like that. There are up to 5 members, so 17% of anything would be tricky. Usually you need 1 tank (taking damage), 1 healer, 1 dps (mage, rogue) minimum, plus 1 multiclass (shaman, warlock, hunter, druid), plus 1 any of the above makes a great party.
Yeah it's more the way I remember it :blush: (Half, third, remainder - still tricky with 5 though multiclasses let you do fractions eg 2 tanks, a healer, a multiclass healer/tank, mage, rogue - but it's not meant to be taken that seriously)

So what've you got ?

[Beowulf]

Yeah it's more the way I remember it :blush: (Half, third, remainder)

So what've you got ?

"Tassi's half human, half cow, half healer, half shaman, half Tailor, and half mad."

Ghost's mouth moved as he worked this out.

"That makes a wossname total of three homicidal maniacs," He said

"That's about right" said Beowulf.

:wink: :whistle:

[Ghost]

"Tassi's half human, half cow, half healer, half shaman, half Tailor, and half mad."

Ghost's mouth moved as he worked this out.

"That makes a wossname total of three homicidal maniacs," He said

"That's about right" said Beowulf.

:wink: :whistle:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
This thread is brightening up my day no end :clap:

Oh and the mouth moving while I work it out's about right; I've got six people in my example - it should read mage or rogue" :blush:

[Beowulf]

Any chance of some of your adventures being written up in a bardic style? (So willing to give rep for this :flower: )

I'll Start

The Ballad of Ragefire chasm

In Ragefire chasm our trio strode
though fire and smoke and soot
and slew they the beasts that filled that realm
and gleefully plundered their loot

Toireasa, our leader, a blood elf rogue
would slip from sight into the gloom
and stun her foe, with a careful blow
while we shot from the side of the room

Nexdico, a warlock undead,
Woken from her eternal sleep
to summon from hell her demonic pet
but still failed to look before the leap

Tassi , a shaman and female tauren
to death would her foes she consign
alas she did die from a bout of lag
to err is human.. but to moo bovine !

[Sparkles]

I have a couple of "get me out of this mess" spells

One is a fabulous scream -which makes mobs run away (great if you've got too many to handle).
Another is silencing which protects from spell casters - but has the disadvantage that once I've cast it it takes A-G-E-S to re-set.

Thing is, I'm not experienced enough yet to always know when's a good time to use these (and other, specialised) spells. So I'm afraid people will have to put up with me blundering around till I figure it out properly :flower: :blush:

[Ghost]

I'll Start

The Ballad of Ragefire chasm

In Ragefire chasm our trio strode
though fire and smoke and soot
and slew they the beasts that filled that realm
and gleefully plundered their loot

Toireasa, our leader, a blood elf rogue
would slip from sight into the gloom
and stun her foe, with a careful blow
while we shot from the side of the room

Nexdico, a warlock undead,
Woken from her eternal sleep
to summon from hell her demonic pet
but still failed to look before the leap

Tassi , a shaman and female tauren
to death would her foes she consign
alas she did die from a bout of lag
to err is human.. but to moo bovine !

:worthy:
I need to wait 24 hours to rep you

[Tessalicious]

I'll Start

The Ballad of Ragefire chasm

In Ragefire chasm our trio strode
though fire and smoke and soot
and slew they the beasts that filled that realm
and gleefully plundered their loot

Toireasa, our leader, a blood elf rogue
would slip from sight into the gloom
and stun her foe, with a careful blow
while we shot from the side of the room

Nexdico, a warlock undead,
Woken from her eternal sleep
to summon from hell her demonic pet
but still failed to look before the leap

Tassi , a shaman and female tauren
to death would her foes she consign
alas she did die from a bout of lag
to err is human.. but to moo bovine !:cheers: :respect: :rofl:

I love it, but Alec says don't give up the day job - although he has offered to bring his lute along to the next gathering (yes, he has one) and strum for you if you promise to sing at the top of your voice!

[killingtime]

Tassi , a shaman and female tauren
to death would her foes she consign
alas she did die from a bout of lag
to err is human.. but to moo bovine !

You need to be a minstrel (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/04/18) :D.

[TheTramp]

Generally I don't hear it divided like that. There are up to 5 members, so 17% of anything would be tricky. Usually you need 1 tank (taking damage), 1 healer, 1 dps (mage, rogue) minimum, plus 1 multiclass (shaman, warlock, hunter, druid), plus 1 any of the above makes a great party.

Mage or Rogue dps? Try hunter!

Was teamed with 2 warriors yesteday. They were level 53 and 56, I'm level 54. In about an hours worth of killing, my hunter did 56% of the damage that the group did - more than them put together. And it was usually my pet that did the tanking as well!! :na:

Not that I think that hunters are over-powerful or anything! :flower:

[Tessalicious]

I agree that hunters do a lot of damage, but I would hold with my assertion that they are multiclass characters. The pet acts as tank/damage, the hunter as range damage as well as healer (only of pet of course).

Anyone, everyone knows that hunters are due a serious nerf sometime soon - then we'll see who's :na:...

[TheTramp]

They are multiclass characters. But, if you wanted a dps, then right now, you'd want a hunter. I'll group with anybody of a similar level, and see if they can do more dps.

And yeah. Nerf soon. Hopefully after I get to level 70! :wink:

[Beowulf]

and here's Tassi's enchants

Recipe list for player Tassi on Lightbringer
Created on 05/02/07 19:35:24
33 Enchanting recipe(s) scanned


Enchant Boots - Minor Agility
Permanently enchant a pair of boots so they increase the wearer's Agility by 1.
Tools: Runed Silver Rod
6 * Strange Dust
2 * Lesser Astral Essence

Enchant Boots - Minor Stamina
Permanently enchant a pair of boots so they increase the wearer's Stamina by 1.
Tools: Runed Silver Rod
8 * Strange Dust

Enchant Bracer - Lesser Stamina
Permanently enchant a bracer so it increases the wearer's Stamina by 3.
Tools: Runed Silver Rod
2 * Soul Dust

Enchant Bracer - Lesser Strength
Permanently enchant a bracer so it increases the wearer's Strength by 3.
Tools: Runed Silver Rod
2 * Soul Dust

Enchant Chest - Health
Permanently enchant a piece of chest armor to increase the health of the wearer by 25.
Tools: Runed Silver Rod
4 * Strange Dust
1 * Lesser Astral Essence

Enchant Chest - Lesser Absorption
Enchant a piece of chest armor so it has a 5% chance per hit of giving you 25 points of damage absorption.
Tools: Runed Silver Rod
2 * Strange Dust
1 * Greater Astral Essence
1 * Large Glimmering Shard

Enchant Cloak - Lesser Fire Resistance
Permanently enchant a cloak so that it increases resistance to fire by 5.
Tools: Runed Silver Rod
1 * Fire Oil
1 * Lesser Astral Essence

Enchant Cloak - Lesser Shadow Resistance
Permanently enchant a cloak so that it increases resistance to shadow by 10.
Tools: Runed Silver Rod
1 * Greater Astral Essence
1 * Shadow Protection Potion

Enchant Shield - Lesser Spirit
Permanently enchant a shield to give 3 spirit.
Tools: Runed Silver Rod
2 * Lesser Astral Essence
4 * Strange Dust

Enchant Weapon - Lesser Striking
Permanently enchant a Melee Weapon to do 2 additional points of damage.
Tools: Runed Silver Rod
2 * Soul Dust
1 * Large Glimmering Shard

Enchant 2H Weapon - Lesser Intellect
Permanently enchant a Two-Handed Melee Weapon to add 3 to intellect.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
3 * Greater Magic Essence

Enchant 2H Weapon - Minor Impact
Permanently enchant a Two-Handed Melee Weapon to do 2 additional points of damage.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
4 * Strange Dust
1 * Small Glimmering Shard

Enchant Cloak - Lesser Protection
Permanently enchant a cloak to increase armor by 20.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
6 * Strange Dust
1 * Small Glimmering Shard

Enchant Shield - Lesser Protection
Permanently enchant a shield to increase its armor by 30.
Tools: Runed Silver Rod
1 * Lesser Astral Essence
1 * Strange Dust
1 * Small Glimmering Shard

Enchant Shield - Minor Stamina
Permanently enchant a shield so that it increases the Stamina of the bearer by 1.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
1 * Lesser Astral Essence
2 * Strange Dust

Runed Silver Rod
1 * Silver Rod
6 * Strange Dust
3 * Greater Magic Essence
1 * Runed Copper Rod

Enchant Bracer - Minor Agility
Permanently enchant bracers so they increase the wearer's Agility by 1.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
2 * Strange Dust
1 * Greater Magic Essence

Enchant Chest - Lesser Health
Permanently enchant a piece of chest armor so that it increases the health of the wearer by 15.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
2 * Strange Dust
2 * Lesser Magic Essence

Enchant Chest - Lesser Mana
Permanently enchant a piece of chest armor so that it increases the mana of the wearer by 20.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
1 * Greater Magic Essence
1 * Lesser Magic Essence

Enchant Cloak - Minor Protection
Enchant a cloak to provide 10 additional points of armor.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
3 * Strange Dust
1 * Greater Magic Essence

Enchant Weapon - Minor Beastslayer
Permanently enchant a Melee Weapon to do 2 additional points of damage to Beasts.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
4 * Strange Dust
2 * Greater Magic Essence

Enchant Weapon - Minor Striking
Permanently enchant a Melee Weapon to do 1 additional point of damage.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
2 * Strange Dust
1 * Greater Magic Essence
1 * Small Glimmering Shard

Greater Magic Wand
Creates a greater magic wand.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
1 * Simple Wood
1 * Greater Magic Essence

Enchant Bracer - Minor Deflection
Permanently enchants bracers to give +2 defense rating.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
1 * Lesser Magic Essence
1 * Strange Dust

Enchant Bracer - Minor Health
Permanently enchant bracers to increase the health of the wearer by 5.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
1 * Strange Dust

Enchant Bracer - Minor Stamina
Permanently enchant bracers so they increase the wearer's Stamina by 1.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
3 * Strange Dust

Enchant Chest - Minor Absorption
Enchant a piece of chest armor so it has a 2% chance per hit of giving you 10 points of damage absorption.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
2 * Strange Dust
1 * Lesser Magic Essence

Enchant Chest - Minor Health
Permanently enchant a piece of chest armor so that it increases the health of the wearer by 5.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
1 * Strange Dust

Enchant Chest - Minor Mana
Permanently enchant a piece of chest armor so that it increases the mana of the wearer by 5.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
1 * Lesser Magic Essence

Enchant Cloak - Minor Resistance
Permanently enchant a cloak so that it increases the resistance to all schools of magic by 1.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
1 * Strange Dust
2 * Lesser Magic Essence

Lesser Magic Wand
Creates a lesser magic wand.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
1 * Simple Wood
1 * Lesser Magic Essence

Minor Wizard Oil
Creates Minor Wizard Oil.
Tools: Runed Copper Rod
2 * Strange Dust
1 * Maple Seed
1 * Empty Vial

Runed Copper Rod
1 * Copper Rod
1 * Strange Dust
1 * Lesser Magic Essence


LS3D Craft Info V1.33, Copyright 2005-2007 Lightstorm3D, LS3D WoW Addons (http://www.lightstorm3d.com/download/wow)

[Beowulf]

Obviously I can combine Tassi's enchants with Násh's Leathers and deliver in person or by mail.. for a reasonable price of course
http://www.skyfall.co.uk/forum/mwahhaha.gif

[TheTramp]

Obviously I can combine Tassi's enchants with Násh's Leathers and deliver in person or by mail.. for a reasonable price of course
http://www.skyfall.co.uk/forum/mwahhaha.gif

Me too. Leatherworking of 280 and enchanting of 251 from me. Though, I can't do such pretty lists! :wink:

[Sparkles]

Obviously I can combine Tassi's enchants with Násh's Leathers and deliver in person or by mail.. for a reasonable price of course
http://www.skyfall.co.uk/forum/mwahhaha.gif

Do we get discount if we've supplied mats for disenchanting? :innocent: :wink:

[Beowulf]

Do we get discount if we've supplied mats for disenchanting? :innocent: :wink:

Of course, If I have the mats already then it's free to Guild members. If I need to buy something then either you buy it / farm it / make it and mail it to me or I buy it and make it.

I wouldn't dream of charging Guild mates.. well not TOO much at least :wink:

actually Nash is pretty solvent these days.. he farms Wool off humanoids. It's ridiculous but Wool is really expensive just now. Anyway now that Tassi doesn't need wool he just sells it (or does the donation of wool quests for reputation)

When Tassi gets to 20 she's going to go back to Undercity to lvl up her enchanting.

[Sparkles]

Can you have more than one enchant one a piece of armour?

[Beowulf]

Can you have more than one enchant one a piece of armour?

Alas no.. one overwrites the other.

However if I had a piece of armour that gave me say

+10 Strength
+5 Agility
+1 Spirit

and I applied +1 agility to that you would have

+10 Strength
+6 Agility
+1 Spirit

However, if you then added an armour patch for +24 armour it would cancel out the +1 Agility. I guess it's to stop people making Twink items by layering on hundreds of enchants :)

Take a look at Nash and Tassi on the armoury and you'll see the way they are equipped :)

I have to go think about something (or someone :awe:) else now.. lest I get into trouble for thinking about WoW too much :wink:

[azande]

Anyone, everyone knows that hunters are due a serious nerf sometime soon - then we'll see who's :na:...

Actually hunters were already nerfed when they changed the rule 1Agi=2RAP to 1Agi=1RAP. In the coming patch release notes they are upgrading the Survival tree so that it might be viable again.

PS: not that I play a hunter or anything...

[Beowulf]

No WoW for me this weekend. I'm in London :clap: so will see some of my fellow guild mates in person on Sunday :clap:

[Dreadful Scathe]

Me neither as I'm in Giverny: in the highly unlikely event I meet any guild members - ill buy them dinner ;)

[Sparkles]

OK, so I spent most of my evening yesterday running around trying to empty my quest log, only to find that I had no idea where I was going (even though I had a book to help me) and that every time I finished a quest they gave me another one - then I levelled up and got even more quests to do. I think I finished with more quests than I started with! Ugh.

Oh, and for anyone wondering about the faire, Beo and I decided it was a waste of time, so don't bother.

[Beowulf]

Oh, and for anyone wondering about the faire, Beo and I decided it was a waste of time, so don't bother.

I'm sure if you spend the time collecting all the myriad items they ask you for so you can get 50 tickets then you might get something of worth.. As it happens I got an uncommon Green Chest plate that was poorer than the one I already had and sent it to Tassi for Disenchanting. had to make several batches of armour to allow Sparkles to get a few tokens. If you have the stuff already then I guess it's fine, but I couldn't be bothered finding the mats or hunting for the collectables.

Oh .. and DON'T activate the Tonks. I don't know how they work.. but they'll freeze your character to the spot for about 5 mins.

On the subject of Disenchanting / enchanting this weeks "D'OH!" award does to Tassi !! it was going to go to Nash but Tassi pipped him to the dubious Honor.

Nash wanted his new axe enchanted.. but he equipped it first by accident rendering it soulbound and there for unable to be posted to Tassi for enchanting. hehe.

Just as well mind you as Tassi was disenchanting some goodies, then went to enchant her lovely boots.. erm.. (embarrassed cough) It didn't exactly go as planned. Rather than ENCHANTING my nice boots (reward from a quest).. .. .. I DISENCHANTED them :blush: .. so now I'm running around in my bare feet ,sorry I mean , hooves :blush: :blush:

[Sparkles]

so now I'm running around in my bare feet ,sorry I mean , hooves :blush: :blush:

They'll only be cloth, but I'll make you some boots tonight and post them to you - it'll be better than nothing :flower:

Oh, and next time Tassi is on the same time as me remind me to meet you and see if I can cast a spell on you to help with your enchanting... it might not work, but it's worth a go :nice:

[Shodan]

Nash wanted his new axe enchanted.. but he equipped it first by accident rendering it soulbound and there for unable to be posted to Tassi for enchanting. hehe.
Get the two characters together in the game and do a "Trade". Then place the Soulbound item to be Enchanted in the "Trade slot at the bottom" which is used for Enchanting and so forth items from another player.

This'll allow the enchanting to occur. Bit of a pain I know as it means both characters must be next to each other. Still better than no enchant. :nice:

[TheTramp]

Kinda hard if it's the same person's chars.....

[Beowulf]

Get the two characters together in the game and do a "Trade". Then place the Soulbound item to be Enchanted in the "Trade slot at the bottom" which is used for Enchanting and so forth items from another player.


Not possible.. I am Nash AND Tassi !! cannot log two characters from the same account in at the same time. :na:

I had already thought of that.. running one instance on my PC and one on my laptop. But I would need another separate account for that to work.

[Sparkles]

Can lvl 19s do raids in AB?

Also, when you get those honour medals a) where do you cash them in and b) roughly how many do you need before you start getting "uber-stuff"?

I'm reluctant to level up either of my chars before I do some PvP... but it's only worth it if I get to accumilate enough medals to trade for good things :grin:

[Beowulf]

Can lvl 19s do raids in AB?



Style: Occupy resource nodes to accumulate resources.
Location: Eastern Kingdoms (Arathi Highlands)
Limits: Level 20-70 players (level range breakup: 20-29, 30-39, 40-49, 50-59, 60-69, and 70)
Maximum players per team: 15 Horde/15 Alliance
Win Conditions: Accumulate 2000 resources

it would appear not !!

This link (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/rewards-general.html) discusses rewards and lvls. There are some rewards for particular battlegrounds at lower lvls but general PVP rewards are for lvl 60 and 70 players only

[Sparkles]

it would appear not !!

This link (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/rewards-general.html) discusses rewards and lvls. There are some rewards for particular battlegrounds at lower lvls but general PVP rewards are for lvl 60 and 70 players only

Ah, thanks :) it seems I could go to Warsong Gulch as a lvl 19 though.

As for rewards - I think I'll need to ponder a bit longer on it...

[Beowulf]

Ah, thanks :) it seems I could go to Warsong Gulch as a lvl 19 though.

As for rewards - I think I'll need to ponder a bit longer on it...

I've played Warsong Gulch with Nash.. is great fun, but expect a life expectancy measured in seconds.

I've also played in AB .. it's a "king of the hill" game.. you have to control 5 resource spots .. again.. life expectancy is measured in seconds

and rewards.. they are like hens teeth. Despite playing PvP Battlegrounds for hours.. I still don't even have enough for a toothpick !!

[Sparkles]

and rewards.. they are like hens teeth. Despite playing PvP Battlegrounds for hours.. I still don't even have enough for a toothpick !!

Just out of curiosity, how many do you have and from which places?
I only played once in AB and got 3 honour medals, I thought that wasn't bad going, but maybe I was wrong :blush:

Also, where (if you have enough) do you 'cash in'?

[Beowulf]

Just out of curiosity, how many do you have and from which places?
I only played once in AB and got 3 honour medals, I thought that wasn't bad going, but maybe I was wrong :blush:

Also, where (if you have enough) do you 'cash in'?

oooh.. off the top of my head.. I dunno, not many. about 20-25 Warsong gulch and about 8 or so AB ones.

To trade them in you need to go to Oggrimmar (at least that's one place I know) and its in the Horde embassy (I think) it's got a swirly portal in the front door .. presumably to stop Alliance getting in there I guess :) .. it's up top, head to the sky tower and along the rope bridge. Then (if memory serves me well) to the left somewhere.

but apparently there are specialist vendors "out there" in the entrance to various Battlefields for example.

[Beowulf]

OK, time for another guild update

TessaLicious: Toireasa (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Toireasa) : blood elf : rogue : 54: skinning : leatherworking
Tessalicious: Haeli (http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Haeli) : Orc : Shaman : 10 : bank char
ESG: : hunter : 52
Dreadful Scathe: Shirley (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shirley ) : Orc : Warrior : 30: mining : blacksmithing
MostlySane: Thrull (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Thrull) : blood elf : warlock : 17 : mining : jewelcrafting
Sparkles: Sparklette (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparklette) : blood elf : priest : 29: skinning : tailoring
Tramp: Nekiar (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Nekiar): Blood Elf: Rogue : 29: mining : jewelcrafting
Tramp: Sparkling (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparkling): Blood Elf: Paladin : 27: mining : engineering
Beowulf: Náshnarak (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Náshnarak): Orc : Warrior: 28: Skinning : n/a
Beowulf: Tassi (http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Tassi) : Tauren : Shaman : 20 Enchanting : Tailoring

any inaccuracies are due to my orcish mental prowess !!

[Sparkles]

Tessalicious: Toireasa (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Toireasa) : blood elf : rogue : 54: skinning : leatherworking
Tessalicious: Haeli (http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Haeli) : Orc : Shaman : 10 : bank char
ESG: : hunter : 60
Dreadful Scathe: Shirley (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Shirley ) : Orc : Warrior : 30: mining : blacksmithing
MostlySane: Thrull (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Thrull) : blood elf : warlock : 17 : mining : jewelcrafting
Sparkles: Sparklette (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparklette) : blood elf : priest : 29: skinning : tailoring
Sparkles: Nexdico (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Nexdico) : undead : warlock : 19: herbalism : alchemy
Tramp: Nekiar (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Nekiar): Blood Elf: Rogue : 29: mining : jewelcrafting
Tramp: Sparkling (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Sparkling): Blood Elf: Paladin : 27: mining : engineering
Beowulf: Náshnarak (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Náshnarak): Orc : Warrior: 28: Skinning : n/a
Beowulf: Tassi (http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Tassi) : Tauren : Shaman : 20 Enchanting : Tailoring

Have added my alt Nexdico - if anyone needs any potions please let me know :flower:

When is Deathmaiden coming back to us Tessa?

I'm still chuffed to bits with my new boots :grin: - makes PvP worth it :clap:

[Beowulf]

I just noticed.. I'm (Násh at least) is SKINNING & LEATHERWORKING.. not N/a as I put :blush:

also I found this recently and have been using it. just some nice areas to grind in for particular levels. Although I'm sure you already have your favorites spots.

Horde Grinding Spots:

* 0-15 - Questing fastest possible XP
* 15-18 - The Barrens - Harpies (loc: 38,16)
* 18-22 - The Barrens - Bristleback(s)(loc: 52,44)
* 22-24 - The Barrens - Bristleback(s) (loc: 41,79)
* 22-24 – Hillsbrad - Tarren Mill: Bears and Spiders (loc: 59,30)
* 24-26 – Hillsbrad - Across the road from Tarren Mill Bears and Cats
* 24-26 - Thousand Needles - Galak Scouts (etc) (loc: 45,42)
* 26-28 – Hillsbrad – Spiders/Bears (back of Syndicate Tower)
* 26-30 - Hillsbrad - Mud Gnolls
* 28-30 – Hillsbrad – Nethander Stead: Cats/Spiders
* 30-32 – Thousand Needles – Harpies inside the cave
* 30-38 - Shimmering Flats - All monsters.
* 38-40 - Dustswallow Swamp - Very North East Islands, Murlock Warriors/Oracles.
* 40-46 - Ferales - Woodpaws (stay away from the ones that disease for slow casting speeds)
* 46-48 - Ferales - Frayfeather Skystormers
* 48-50 - Ferales - Harpies
* 48-51 - Southwest of Gadgetzan - Thistleshrubs
* 50-54 - Western Plaguelands - First 'field' to the left, assorted monsters.
* 54-60 - Western Plaguelands - Scarlet Lumberjacks

[Dreadful Scathe]

Found this (http://wow.tentonhammer.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=333) - a really good skill grinding guide for fishing/cooking - scroll down the page for links for other skills.

[Sparkles]

Found this (http://wow.tentonhammer.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=333) - a really good skill grinding guide for fishing/cooking - scroll down the page for links for other skills.

Did you get your present from Tassi and Sparklette?
:flower:

[Sparkles]

Is it possible to learn other languages in WoW? I sometimes think gutterspeak would be quite useful :rolleyes:

[Beowulf]

Apparently there are links out there for translations but "cross alliance communication is against blizzards T.O.C."

:rolleyes:

basically what you see when an alliance speaks to you is gobbledygook and vice versa. but there is a rudimentary way of getting something back.

personally I just use emotes.. /fart being my fave one when alliance are concerned ;)

on other subjects.. this is my new axe (I know DS was so impressed with my last one)

Bloodspiller
Binds when equipped
Two-Hand Axe
57 - 87 Damage Speed 2.70
(26.7 damage per second)
Durability 100 / 100
Requires Level 27
Chance on hit: Wounds the target causing them to bleed for 130 damage over 30 sec.
Item Level 32

Thanks to a random enchanter it also has a permanent +5 weapon damage

I also have a sharpening stone which adds Sharpened (+6 Damage) to it for 30 mins at a time.

I am looking for some advice on talents though.. at the moment I'm fairly balanced, but am thinking that a change to mostly Arms and some fury with only a little (if any) protection talents would be best? Since I seem to be specialising in two handed (slow but massive dmg) weapons and am forgoing the fast 2 handed weapon path (and the oh so cool Flurry talent) would this be a wise choice? if I change now it'll cost me a few G but if I wait until I'm lvl 60 say it'll cost me a bomb !!

discuss?

[TheTramp]

I am looking for some advice on talents though.. at the moment I'm fairly balanced, but am thinking that a change to mostly Arms and some fury with only a little (if any) protection talents would be best? Since I seem to be specialising in two handed (slow but massive dmg) weapons and am forgoing the fast 2 handed weapon path (and the oh so cool Flurry talent) would this be a wise choice? if I change now it'll cost me a few G but if I wait until I'm lvl 60 say it'll cost me a bomb !!

discuss?

Most people choose to specialise in one tree. Less overall balanced, but you get those better high-end talents, which are worth it in most cases.

My warrior is totally specced in arms and uses a 2 handed sword, but when he gets up 1 more level and has the top talent available, I'm going to pay to change him to totally be specced in fury, get him a couple of decent one handed weapons, and see how that goes.

Incidentally, re-speccing isn't cost dependent on your level, just on the number of times you do it. If you don't ever re-spec until level 70, that first time will still only cost you 1g.

[Dreadful Scathe]

Did you get your present from Tassi and Sparklette?
:flower:

i got a headband! sent you silk and iron buckles - im sure the guild will benefit from your skills as a whole so ill kep sending you things :)


Is it possible to learn other languages in WoW? I sometimes think gutterspeak would be quite useful :rolleyes:

no :) i assume it automatically translates it to gobbledegook

[Tessalicious]

Bloodspiller
Binds when equipped
Two-Hand Axe
57 - 87 Damage Speed 2.70
(26.7 damage per second)
Durability 100 / 100
Requires Level 27
Chance on hit: Wounds the target causing them to bleed for 130 damage over 30 sec.
Item Level 32

Thanks to a random enchanter it also has a permanent +5 weapon damageNice :)

I am looking for some advice on talents though.. at the moment I'm fairly balanced, but am thinking that a change to mostly Arms and some fury with only a little (if any) protection talents would be best? Since I seem to be specialising in two handed (slow but massive dmg) weapons and am forgoing the fast 2 handed weapon path (and the oh so cool Flurry talent) would this be a wise choice? if I change now it'll cost me a few G but if I wait until I'm lvl 60 say it'll cost me a bomb !!

discuss?Firstly, cost of respeccing doesn't change with level, it changes exponentially with the number of times you've done it.

I'd generally advise you not to change for the sake of it, but to change when you get to a stage where there's a talent point you want but can't have because it's too high up a tree, but you could reach it if you took out all the talents from the other trees.

Having said that, I did that recently (in order to get the top level talent in the Assassination tree) and regretted it because I had other more powerful attacks and didn't really need it, but had lost improved stealth and other things as a result. So I went from 90% Assassination to 100% Assassination down to 80% Assassination (getting rid of the points that I'd only spent to have enough points in that tree) in the space of two days.

I guess the lesson I learnt from that was, if what you have seems to be serving you well, and you know how to use it, stick with it.

[Beowulf]

i got a headband! sent you silk and iron buckles - im sure the guild will benefit from your skills as a whole so ill kep sending you things :)

Well Sparklette made you a cloak and then Tassi enchanted it for you.

I posted you the headband that Tassi made for you (as you coveted Násh's one that Sparklette made for him)

As Tassi is back onto the enchanting skill tree again (until she maxes out again and has to wait until she's lvl 35 to progress further :rolleyes: ) any donations of unsellable greens (or blues or purples :rofl: yeah right :rolleyes: ) for disenchanting would be greatly appreciated

[CrazyArms]

First off Just want to say Hi and introduce myself to the Forum. After an Awesome Weekender in Ayr thought it best to register and get involved. Everyone was so friendly and the quality of dancing really was fantastic. So thank you all involved.

Ok back to WoW!!

I have been playing the game on and off since it was released and love it, yes at times it can be overly addictive but if you are aware of that then you can get stuck into other addictive hobbies like dancing!! The view I use is that it is no more of a waste of time than sat around watching TV and films for hours on end... and it's more sociable.

I currently have a Lvl 51 Shaman on Lightbringer. Called "Committed" feel free to whisper me in game if any of you use that server. (Alliance Side)

Just want to shed my pennies worth on a couple of things. The cost for retraining maxes out at a certain level and does not keep increasing so at higher levels it gives you and ability to play with different specs.

For a rogue Tessalicious I have found that for PVE stuff a combat rogue with Swords and poison works best :devil: whereas if you intend to do a lot of PVP then daggers and stealth work best.

Well short on time and high on knowledge so will stop myself now before I get too excited and spout too much about various build advice etc. Look forward to seeing you around.:cheers:

Just browsing back on the thread and see you are all Horde... Guess I will track you down!! I may even create a Horde Alt for the crack!

For those interested this is my Character:

The Armory (http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Committed)

[Tessalicious]

First off Just want to say Hi and introduce myself to the Forum. After an Awesome Weekender in Ayr thought it best to register and get involved. Everyone was so friendly and the quality of dancing really was fantastic. So thank you all involved.

Ok back to WoW!!

I have been playing the game on and off since it was released and love it, yes at times it can be overly addictive but if you are aware of that then you can get stuck into other addictive hobbies like dancing!! The view I use is that it is no more of a waste of time than sat around watching TV and films for hours on end... and it's more sociable.

I currently have a Lvl 51 Shaman on Lightbringer. Called "Committed" feel free to whisper me in game if any of you use that server. (Alliance Side)

Just want to shed my pennies worth on a couple of things. The cost for retraining maxes out at a certain level and does not keep increasing so at higher levels it gives you and ability to play with different specs.

For a rogue Tessalicious I have found that for PVE stuff a combat rogue with Swords and poison works best :devil: whereas if you intend to do a lot of PVP then daggers and stealth work best.

Well short on time and high on knowledge so will stop myself now before I get too excited and spout too much about various build advice etc. Look forward to seeing you around.:cheers:

Just browsing back on the thread and see you are all Horde... Guess I will track you down!! I may even create a Horde Alt for the crack!Hey, nice to see another forumite Wow addict! Next time you're online, I'm sure Trampy would want you to add him to your friends in the Alliance side, as well as my Alliance character - both with our forum names! And if you want to come over to the dark side, you'd be more than welcome to join the guild if you just send a message to me (Toireasa) in game.

Thanks for the rogue advice btw - I really enjoy the assassination side, since my alliance toon was a paladin and I'm bored of just attacking straight and hitting things, but I have quite a few points in subtlety too. It's stronger in pvp than pve definitely, but I'm stronger in PvE than I was and I enjoy the rogue-style play so I think I'll stick with it for now. I might try out combat when I'm in outlands just to see how it compares.

[Sparkles]

I posted you the headband that Tassi made for you (as you coveted Násh's one that Sparklette made for him)

LOL I posted Shirley a headband via Nex too :rofl: does this mean you now have two?!!

Anyone want any other cloth armour I'm sure Tassi and I could hook up to enchant a few things (although Tassi is probably v near to being able to enchant everything alone now I guess).

I also I now have a pattern for a mageweave bag (12 slot) and an enchanting pouch (16 slot). I've posted one 12 slot to Shirley already, and will make the enchanting bag for Tassi as soon as I have some more mageweave (sorry Beo, I had to use up the mageweave you gave me in order to get to lvl 225 :blush: ).
If anyone wants any made please just let me know (and send some mageweave cloth) :flower:

[Tessalicious]

Can I order 3 mageweave bags :flower: ? I'll send you a stack of cloth or several if you let me know how much you need.

[Beowulf]

will make the enchanting bag for Tassi as soon as I have some more mageweave (sorry Beo, I had to use up the mageweave you gave me in order to get to lvl 225 :blush: )

Np that's what I gave it to you for. So you could level up. I was Levelling up by making it, but I didn't actually need it yet.

I guess like me you'll be grinding and questing to get to level 35 so you can go to 300 tailoring? (artisan? Master? I forget the order the names come in!)

[Beowulf]

THIS LINK (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/toplist/buttons.html)

is quite useful (if a tad buggy) especially the most sold and most produced items. Gives you a bit of an insight into what's selling the most. (or at least, what's being AUCTIONED the most.. not necessarily selling!)

you have to fiddle with the dates to make it work.. it says NO DATA otherwise !!

[Sparkles]

I guess like me you'll be grinding and questing to get to level 35 so you can go to 300 tailoring? (artisan? Master? I forget the order the names come in!)

:what: What?! You mean now that I'm at 225 I won't be able to lvl up any more in my tailoring till I'm lvl 35? That sucks!

[Beowulf]

:what: What?! You mean now that I'm at 225 I won't be able to lvl up any more in my tailoring till I'm lvl 35? That sucks!

You have to be level 35 to become Artisan Tailor (to 300)
You have to be level 50 to become Master Tailor. (a maximum of 375 points)

[Dreadful Scathe]

what level do you have to be to be a Master Baker ? :whistle:

[Beowulf]

Good info on tailoring and costs of levelling up HERE (http://www.worldofwar.net/professions/tailoring/index.php)

and this information (http://www.wowwiki.com/Tailoring_Levelling_Guide) is what I'm currently working my way though

No master bakers though, No master debaters either.. Just cunning linguists !

[Ghost]

what level do you have to be to be a Master Baker ? :whistle:

I think you have to show up to a certain number of Jango events with really good cakes (preferrably containing lots of chocolate :yum: ) :wink:

Is Amir on WOW? :innocent:

Hmmm PVP Jango :devil: Hah I will destroy you with my flying linear boleos! :cool:

[NZ Monkey]

Nice :)
Firstly, cost of respeccing doesn't change with level, it changes exponentially with the number of times you've done it.

IIRC, this has been altered slightly with a recent patch or BC. If you wait long enough without respeccing the cost lowers again. So for example if it cost me 5g to respec, and then did it again 3 months later it might only cost 5g again. If I waited a a year it'd be back to 1g.

Those figures are a total guess by the way - I don't know what the time frames involved actually are, but I'm pretty sure that's how it works now.

[Beowulf]

Enchantrix Tassi is now maxed out at enchanting 225 (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Tassi) until such times as she gets to level 35 and can train up to 300 again.

I'll post some of her new enchants later. Sorry Trampy +5 to 2h weapons or +3 to single handed.. I wish i could do the +4 you wanted.. or find you that two handed dagger you wished for ;)

Am on the look out for more enchanting mats. Greens , blues, purples or oramges ;) all accepted graciously . Also any limited supply vendor formulas you may see on your travels greatly appreciated.

In return, I'll enchant your items for you when I have the mats and the skill lvls required.

Náshnarak is holding out for THIS ONE (http://thottbot.com/i16247) but he'll just have to wait for a bit ;)

[Shodan]

I know I'm not part of the Ceroc WoW clan as I'm on another server and I'm alliance, but I thought I'd say about my three characters:

Eonar: Fredpal: level 60 Human Paladin (almost 61 !) (Skinning, Mining)
Eonar: MiniFred: level 13 Gnome Warlock (Mining, Engineering)
Darkspear: Winifred: level 43 Night Elf Hunter (Skinning, Enchanting) This is my original character I started with.

[Beowulf]

I cannot log in tonight, says my password is invalid. I tried to get them to resend my password but my email address has changed recently. So I logged onto their technical support.. and their page keeps crashing on me. :(

support is 10:30 to 8pm,, so I phoned.. yeah 10:30 to 8:00 pm PARIS time :( so I'll have to call tomorrow morning.

[Beowulf]

I don't normally swear but

&%$*&^%%$!$!$!%!!!!!!!!!

My account has been hacked :( None of you guys saw me online last night at all? The last time I played was when Trampy and CrazyArms were online.. I was chatting to them on guild chat about me getting to 225 in enchanting. Then I crashed out (in hindsight I should have logged in straight away.. but as I was going offline anyway I didn't bother)

The next night I couldn't get online, the support webforms didn't work and I was too late to speak to the call centre. I just spoke to the guy now who has reset my password. But goodness knows what i'll find when I get back online.. probably everything in my and Tassi's bags sold off for some gold farming company.. worst case scenario is that they also unlearn my skills (oh please no!!!!!!) out of spite..

hopefully nothing will be wrong. but if you see me on before 6pm this evening IT'S NOT ME!! and please contact a GM in game and tell them so !!

grumble.. My password was strong.. obviously not strong enough.

[TheTramp]

Bummer mate :(

Looking at the Armory, it seems that your equipment and skills are still on your char. Hopefully you won't find much changed.

Let us know....

[Beowulf]

Bummer mate :(

Looking at the Armory, it seems that your equipment and skills are still on your char. Hopefully you won't find much changed.

Let us know....

Fingers crossed.. Of course the Armory is 24 hours out of date isn't it though ??

I'll log on after 6pm tonight if I can..

as long as my skills are ok..money is just money I can build that up again it just takes time. I would HATE for them to do something rash, like drop my skills or delete my chars or anything. But I guess I'll just have to see when i get home tonight.

Worst case is I speak to a GM and they SHOULD be able to remedy any illegal changes to my character. (in an ideal world at least!) theoretically if my char has been deleted etc they should be able to roll back the database.. of course, I have no idea if they would do such a thing or not.

[Tessalicious]

Maybe ESG accidentally deleted your account instead of his?

Or maybe not :rolleyes:

I hope you manage to sort out Beo, I'd be really pissed off. Watch out for your bank account details too though, if they can hack one thing...

[Dreadful Scathe]

oh dear - hopefully it will all still be there - was your password really easy ? i'd hate to think it wasnt and people can hack you anyway!

i think the armory, for individuals, is quite up to date - the guild page is at least 24 hours behind though.

[killingtime]

Worst case is I speak to a GM and they SHOULD be able to remedy any illegal changes to my character. (in an ideal world at least!) theoretically if my char has been deleted etc they should be able to roll back the database.. of course, I have no idea if they would do such a thing or not.

They can, and do, apparently (http://kotaku.com/gaming/wow/wow-+-alls-well-that-ends-well-248352.php). There was also a story about using the cursor hack to steal WOW accounts (http://kotaku.com/gaming/security/cursor-hackers-hit-wow-249911.php) but apparently some of the third party customizations are also flawed.

Steal WOW accounts is big business apparently. I'm sorry to hear about your account loss; nothing like something like that to ruin your game.

[Beowulf]

oh dear - hopefully it will all still be there - was your password really easy ? i'd hate to think it wasnt and people can hack you anyway!

i think the armory, for individuals, is quite up to date - the guild page is at least 24 hours behind though.

My Password wasn't easy. 12 characters Mixed upper lower case and numerics. it COULD have been stronger but then passwords can ALWAYS be stronger. but I've noticed with WoW that there seems to be no "maximum attempts at log in" you try and try and try and try and.. .. I know this as I was trying to log on.

I thought I was going MAD !! (is it uppercase? have I got caps lock on? are my keys sticking? have I had a stroke? hehe)

in the end it's JUST A GAME. they can't get my bank details from logging in online and my online banking has a multitude of questions.

A year or so ago my ebay account got hacked too. Ebay refunded all my charges etc but apparently I was selling 50 Radley and Louis Vuitton handbags for £30 each!! .. again I had a fairly secure password. Ebay support told me that the far eats have gangs of criminals stealing computers and using them to brute force attack passwords on any site where they can make money.

I guess the pseudo-economy of WoW is just another target.

[Dreadful Scathe]

you didnt have any weird plug-ins did you Beo ?

[Beowulf]

you didnt have any weird plug-ins did you Beo ?

I have some add-ons yes, but I didn't install any weird ones. I also looked at the add-on developer guide /API to see that there wasn't any way for an addon to pilfer info.

The logon screen is blocked to the addon API (in fact addons only start up ONCE you've logged in) the WoW Client watches running programs to stop bots and exploits. I had considered that.

I mean, I've got a daily updated AV / Firewall package. I check for spyware if not daily certainly at least once a week. I have Windows set to auto update all security patches and my router is also enabled as a physical firewall.

I'm stumped !!

[Dreadful Scathe]

i think we'd all be interested in how this happened - doesnt sound like you were at fault at all - theres a loophole somewere.....

[Sparkles]

That's horrible, really sorry to hear about it Beo :( have a :hug:.

You've made me worry about my account now - I didn't have access to my computer last night but I'll check it when I get in.

If Blizzard can't sort out any problems with restoring anything you need to have restored on your chars I'm sure we, as a guild, can rally round and get you back to where you were. Let's just hope everything is as you left it though.

[Beowulf]

i think we'd all be interested in how this happened - doesnt sound like you were at fault at all - theres a loophole somewere.....

I know.. no fault of mine at all.. In fact I was discussing account security with that nice chap who emailed me asking me for my account details. Apparently he was from Blizzard doing a survey. his english wasn't very good I remember.. anyway after I gave him my account and credit card details i told him my mothers Maiden name and my game CD key.

It was shortly after that conversation that I got hacked.. My what a crazy coincidence !! :wink:

(that was all a joke BTW.. I DIDN'T and WOULDN'T give out my details to anyone!)

Personally I think someone at Project ECHELON (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON) was having a dull shift and wanted to play a game on the office servers ;)

[Shodan]

Sorry to hear of your account hack Beo. :sad:

Some of my guild members have also been hacked as well, always those that have some addons on them. In all the cases I've seen though Blizzard are very good at restoring your character to how it should be. Good luck with getting your stuff back :nice:

[Beowulf]

Well from what i've read there is no way for an addon (written in LUA code) to access the account login data. The only way would be for some "installer" to install an executable keylogger.

besides, the only addons I use are Titan panel, Auctioneer , Enchantrix and the trade skill exporter .. all from Curse, a respected Addin Site.

[CrazyArms]

Having your account hacked is naff!! I have had a few guildies have there account banned but they were noobs who bought Items from e-bay and used some really naff PwrLvling services and kept switching the IP address played.

Hope you get it sorted Beo :cheers:

[Beowulf]

All characters present and correct. My gold has been stolen about 40g from Nash and about 18g from Tassi. I've not checked my alliance char yet.

It's an annoyance, and really gutting at that money was hard come by.. a lot of grinding and skinning and disenchanting to get that. I could try and get the GM's on the case.. but it's probably not worth it. I've levelled up, I can get the gold again..the main thing is my chars are there and all their armor and belongings seem to be there.

[Sparkles]

All characters present and correct. My gold has been stolen about 40g from Nash and about 18g from Tassi. I've not checked my alliance char yet.

It's an annoyance, and really gutting at that money was hard come by.. a lot of grinding and skinning and disenchanting to get that. I could try and get the GM's on the case.. but it's probably not worth it. I've levelled up, I can get the gold again..the main thing is my chars are there and all their armor and belongings seem to be there.

Let's have a whip round for Beo :grin:

[Dreadful Scathe]

All characters present and correct. My gold has been stolen about 40g from Nash and about 18g from Tassi. I've not checked my alliance char yet.

It's an annoyance, and really gutting at that money was hard come by.. a lot of grinding and skinning and disenchanting to get that. I could try and get the GM's on the case.. but it's probably not worth it. I've levelled up, I can get the gold again..the main thing is my chars are there and all their armor and belongings seem to be there.

Why can't Blizzard restore your gold ? Its simply a case of seeing who the gold was sent to when you had no control of your account, removing it, and giving it back to you! I would say its VERY worth it to get the GMs involved or someone is profiting from the theft!

I can give you some gold of course, but i only have about 14 at the mo. I could send you mats for a while if you like.

[Beowulf]

Why can't Blizzard restore your gold ? Its simply a case of seeing who the gold was sent to when you had no control of your account, removing it, and giving it back to you! I would say its VERY worth it to get the GMs involved or someone is profiting from the theft!

I can give you some gold of course, but i only have about 14 at the mo. I could send you mats for a while if you like.

I raised a GM ticket last night but got an email saying that they needed to talk to me in person. I Can't play this weekend as my Parents are up to Aberdeen to visit but Sunday night, Monday night I'll re-raise a ticket to speak to a GM and I should be able to get all my G back..

"How much did I lose? Oh about 50.. <thinks>.. cough thousand! ahem.. yeah about 50,000 gold!"
"but sire our records clearly show you only had 50 G?"
"OMG you've been hacked too???"

well it's worth a try ;)

[Dreadful Scathe]

"but sire our records clearly show you only had 50 G?"

Sire? Claiming you are royalty may work, let us know how it goes .:)

[Ghost]

Why can't Blizzard restore your gold ? Its simply a case of seeing who the gold was sent to when you had no control of your account, removing it, and giving it back to you! I would say its VERY worth it to get the GMs involved or someone is profiting from the theft!

I was puzzling over this from Beowulf's posts. If there's a money trail isn't it fairly easy to crack down on people doing this sort of thing, including legal measures? Or is it just that storing the data for everything every character does is too much and so not done?

[Beowulf]

I was puzzling over this from Beowulf's posts. If there's a money trail isn't it fairly easy to crack down on people doing this sort of thing, including legal measures? Or is it just that storing the data for everything every character does is too much and so not done?

I spoke to the GM's and they say ,sadly, that I cannot get my gold back. There are so many ways to pass gold around .. send it by mail, trades, buying up cheap objects placed on the auction house for SILLY prices etc they also use alts, disposable accounts, pass money to many different people some of which aren't even aware it was stolen. It's nigh on impossible for them to track where the money went.

It's not so bad. I still have my chars. Even though I found out how "fun" it is getting around when you've only got a handful of coppers.

Even more fun was when i was playing my much ignored Ally char. He's only lvl 6 so didn't have much money in the first place. but I trained him in Skinning and mining. Only to realise I didn't have enough copper to buy either a skinning knife nor a pickaxe !! haha.

So I went out killing mobs, got killed, my weapons and armour got damaged.. and the money I had got from killing them had to be used to repair my armour ! Aaaaarrgh !!

I wish I remember how I did this the first time round !! hehe

[Dreadful Scathe]

I spoke to the GM's and they say ,sadly, that I cannot get my gold back. There are so many ways to pass gold around .. send it by mail, trades, buying up cheap objects placed on the auction house for SILLY prices etc they also use alts, disposable accounts, pass money to many different people some of which aren't even aware it was stolen.

Thats just an excuse, its not your problem how the thief distributes the money. Why mention some people "aren't even aware it's stolen" - so you feel pity for them? it's against the rules, and people buying gold in the real world should have ALL their gold removed if discovered.


It's nigh on impossible for them to track where the money went.

Nonsense. The money is coming from your characters and you can say when. They should not need any more information. There is no grey area here at all. Blizzard aren't doing themselves any favours by allowing this sort of hacking to continue and allowing people to profit from it.

[TheTramp]

On another note. I just did warsong gulch battleground.

Final score: Kills 32. Deaths 2.

I was quite pleased :)

[Beowulf]

On another note. I just did warsong gulch battleground.

Final score: Kills 32. Deaths 2.

I was quite pleased :)

Very good.. I did a few rounds as well. I still get killed a lot but I managed to capture the flag a few times (which was nice)

I developed an "interesting" technique. But one I can't repeat due to it being WAY too expensive.

leg it normally towards the ally base, when you're half way up the ramp to their flag room, quaff an invisibility potion. Players expect night elves and rogues to sneak around in the gloom.. not battle axe wielding Orc warriors!! , Charge at person nearest the flag, hamstring and rend, this gets me enough rage to do intimidating shout, Which stuns target and fears 5 others. Grab flag, then leg it again.. if they get close (which when you have they flag they all do) quaff a swiftness potion.

The only problem with this is the cool down between potions, but I usually fight toe to toe for a few mins taking a few of them out.

I've also been playing my Ally char recently again (am so NOT looking forward to getting Násh and Tassi up to lvl 35 :( ) so I'm playing my very noob Dwarf Hunter (8) char as at least he levels up relatively quickly :)

Thanks to two ally chars.. one nice lvl 70 guy gave me a +4 enchanted green axe and some assorted armour (all because I admired his most cool bow!) and some other ally .. goes by the name of Trampee. Now I wonder who that could have been :wink:

[Sparkles]

Will post Tassi some stuff to get her back on the road again - and maybe she might be able to put an armour enchant on my new cloak when we're on together again?

It's bad about your gold, and I agree Blizzard need to find a better way of tracking these things, but I have faith in the fact that people are generally very nice and will help you out to get you back on the path again :flower:

[Sparkles]

Oh, and Nex went fishing yesterday and caught some 'Deviate Fish' - I have distributed those I caught to some members of the guild - try them and see what you think :nice:

[Beowulf]

I'll gladly encloak any chants.. erm.. enchant any clocks .. <thumps head off desk> enchant any cloaks etc you need.

As I was saying to Trampy and Tessa in game, Tassi actually has 86 g worth of mats sitting in the bank. I counted them all up using Auctioneer :)

She's actually got more G (albeit tied up) than Nash does at the moment. But MANY thanks to Tessa who helped them both out. And Trampy who assisted my Ally Dwarf Hunter.

Hope my stolen gold only buys the gold buyers nothing but bad luck !!

[Sparkles]

Can we please have a list of peoples' ally chars? or would you all prefer to keep them secret?
I don't have one at the moment but was thinking of creating one sometime soon :grin:

[TheTramp]

Well, half asleep this morning, I managed to buy 20 copper ore for 96g and not the 96s I thought I was paying for it. Lucky me!!

My alliance chars are:

Trampy - level 60 hunter (mining & enchanting)
theTramp - level 50 warrior (skinning & tailor)
Trampette - level 35 mage (mining & skinning)
Trampee - level 29 rogue (mining & engineering)
Kaelal - level 24 priest (skinning & leather)

[Aleks]

Rednaskela - level 45 Night Elf Druid, Herbalism and Alchemy.
Currently Balance but soon Restoration as I prefer healing.
Guild: The Four Rings

Hope to see some of you around!

[Beowulf]

Well, half asleep this morning, I managed to buy 20 copper ore for 96g and not the 96s I thought I was paying for it. Lucky me!!


OUCH !! bet you that stung!! you want your 5g back from Beo?

Beo , lvl 8 Dwarf Hunter - CURRENTLY skinning and mining (for money and mats) but ultimately going into Engineering and blacksmithing !!

[Dreadful Scathe]

Well, half asleep this morning, I managed to buy 20 copper ore for 96g and not the 96s I thought I was paying for it. Lucky me!!

My alliance chars are:

Trampy - level 60 hunter (mining & enchanting)
theTramp - level 50 warrior (skinning & tailor)
Trampette - level 35 mage (mining & skinning)
Trampee - level 29 rogue (mining & engineering)
Kaelal - level 24 priest (skinning & leather)
How do you choose your names? So original ;)

[Beowulf]

How do you choose your names? So original ;)

I had a real job coming up with Beo I can tell you :rolleyes:

[Aleks]

How do you choose your names? So original ;)

If you read mine backwards, you'll find I wasn't so original either, apart from the change of gender.

[TheTramp]

Rednaskela - level 45 Night Elf Druid, Herbalism and Alchemy.
Currently Balance but soon Restoration as I prefer healing.
Guild: The Four Rings

Hope to see some of you around!

You're on a different server though! :tears:

I did think of you the other day when I saw someone with the same name as you in a PvP run. Only killed him a couple of times out of respect! :flower:

[TheTramp]

How do you choose your names? So original ;)

Have you noticed some sort of theme going on then? :rolleyes:

[TheTramp]

OUCH !! bet you that stung!! you want your 5g back from Beo?

Yes. You've got to hate the people who put low level items on at such high prices, just to catch out idiots like me!! :tears:

And no. I've still got rather more than you have! :rolleyes:

[Aleks]

You're on a different server though! :tears:

I did think of you the other day when I saw someone with the same name as you in a PvP run. Only killed him a couple of times out of respect! :flower:

I knew there was a reason I didn't post before now....details details.
I'm not really that much of a geek then :wink: to forget such vital things.

[Beowulf]

I laughed the last day when I typed in /silly to get the joke voice emote.

Tassi said "You know in my native tongue my name means dances with tassels"

hehe, purely coincidental that my name is Tassi I suppose.

My first (alt) character I rolled was going to be called Cassandra.. but it was taken so she got called Cassi (and she was night elf) , She got deleted as I was bored with her so I then rolled a Tauren version of her. Changed the C to a T (for Tauren I guess)

Nash (or more correctly Náshnarak) was named from some online orc name generation program !! in hindsight the á was a mistake !

And Beo .. Don't know why I called him Beo (because Beowulf was taken probably ;) )

[TheTramp]

And Beo .. Don't know why I called him Beo (because Beowulf was taken probably ;) )

Funnily enough, Beowulf is the guild leader for the guild I'm in! :yum:

[Beowulf]

Funnily enough, Beowulf is the guild leader for the guild I'm in! :yum:

:angry: :angry: :angry:

tell him I'm most unamused !

:angry: :angry: :angry:

:rofl: :wink: :na:

[Shodan]

Funnily enough, Beowulf is the guild leader for the guild I'm in! :yum:
Which Guild, server etc are you on with your Trampy characters? I figure its not Lightbringer with the Ceroc Guild.

(mine are on Darkspear and Eonar)

[Beowulf]

Will post Tassi some stuff to get her back on the road again - and maybe she might be able to put an armour enchant on my new cloak when we're on together again?

I'll be on tonight at some point !!


'Deviate Fish' - I have distributed those I caught to some members of the guild

Yes, and not DEVIANT fish .. I made the mistake of asking general in Oggrimmar about DEVIANT scale armour. Got quite a lot of funny responses !!


Which Guild, server etc are you on with your Trampy characters? I figure its not Lightbringer with the Ceroc Guild.

it's Lightbringer as well.. well at least for Trampee. I'm in a guild.. but don't ask me to tell you what it's called. Some one invited me to their guild as soon as I went to the other city at the end of the tram. It's quite a big guild, about 56 members but I don't know how many of those are alts/active etc.

[killingtime]

Look! A way to link it all together. There's a World of Warcraft Dance Video (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/clip/world-of-warcraft-dancing-with-source-262312.php). Though it isn't partner dancing of any sort :(.

[Dreadful Scathe]

Look! A way to link it all together. There's a World of Warcraft Dance Video (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/clip/world-of-warcraft-dancing-with-source-262312.php). Though it isn't partner dancing of any sort :(.
Thanks - I have now discovered French Star Alizée search for her on Google and try not to drool :)

[Beowulf]

Thanks - I have now discovered French Star Alizée search for her on Google and try not to drool :)

Sorry but after playing WoW and that video all i can think about is "how odd she looks with that funny coloured human skin and no long ears!"

Night elf dance (or is it Blood elf?) FTW !!

[Dreadful Scathe]

warriors! fancy this (http://thottbot.com/?i=4187) ?

[TheTramp]

warriors! fancy this (http://thottbot.com/?i=4187) ?

It's a quest chain that you get exclusively for warriors when you hit level 30. My level 50 warrior is still using the sword equivalent that I got for completing the quest (whirlwind sword).

It was great at level 35 or so. Now I need to upgrade though...

[Beowulf]

It's a quest chain that you get exclusively for warriors when you hit level 30

looks at character sheet. lvl 29.. ..

Hmm I want one !! :yum: :drool: :drool: :drool: